The reasons & justifications changed by the hour. Nothing he or his administration says is believable. .
Polls show most Americans disapprove of military strikes against Iran. Apparently, Trump administration reasons for war make no sense. In senate briefing, democrats criticize the lack of information to justify wasting American lives and billions of dollars in illegal and unnecessary war.
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The reasons & justifications changed by the hour. Nothing he or his administration says is believable. .
Polls show most Americans disapprove of military strikes against Iran. Apparently, Trump administration reasons for war make no sense. In senate briefing, democrats criticize the lack of information to justify wasting American lives and billions of dollars in illegal and unnecessary war.
LMAO! Sen. John Kennedy, as usual, REALLY has a way with words on Fox tonight "Sean, in the words of Congresswoman Omar -- I love you like a brother." "I don't hate anyone. But I will shed no tears for the Ayatollah khomeini. He won the coin toss. And he elected to receive. And BOY did he receive. May he rest in pieces." "President Trump has got political will. He's got oranges. And like him or dislike him, the world is safer today because of what he has done." once again , Sen. Kennedy , a national Treasure
I read that quote as well about rest in pieces...very well said by him
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LMAO! Sen. John Kennedy, as usual, REALLY has a way with words on Fox tonight "Sean, in the words of Congresswoman Omar -- I love you like a brother." "I don't hate anyone. But I will shed no tears for the Ayatollah khomeini. He won the coin toss. And he elected to receive. And BOY did he receive. May he rest in pieces." "President Trump has got political will. He's got oranges. And like him or dislike him, the world is safer today because of what he has done." once again , Sen. Kennedy , a national Treasure
I read that quote as well about rest in pieces...very well said by him
@Rush51 Forethought? Yeah, we follow the intelligence on hand to act or not act. The intelligence available states it will be a decade or more before Iran had the ability to create a nuclear bomb. The lack of intelligence on the right is severely lacking. @Barbarossa Cry me a fucking river!
Intelligence! One must look at the track record of Trump being stupid and wrong isn’t a new thing, however. And he’s surrounded himself with stupid people whose main qualification is sucking up to him.
Rational threat assessment isn’t something you’ll get from that.
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@Rush51 Forethought? Yeah, we follow the intelligence on hand to act or not act. The intelligence available states it will be a decade or more before Iran had the ability to create a nuclear bomb. The lack of intelligence on the right is severely lacking. @Barbarossa Cry me a fucking river!
Intelligence! One must look at the track record of Trump being stupid and wrong isn’t a new thing, however. And he’s surrounded himself with stupid people whose main qualification is sucking up to him.
Rational threat assessment isn’t something you’ll get from that.
When you've already made up your mind that you hate someone so bad, there is nothing that you will agree with that they do...it's how the psyche works.....this is why right and left cannot be objective in here or in the nation because everything is slighted for or against just because you despise them or their party...this is a root cause of why America is in a spiral with no end in sight....pretty obvious to see that....
Until people can be neutral in review of things and think on their own this will always be an imbalance in America....
I wonder how many on the left would be in this much strife if a Democrat President did the same thing as this Republican President??
We already know that the whole congress excuse is slighted to favor of whoever is Commander in Chief as is evident in many clips that have been viewed most recently of the Democrats having no problem of their Commander in Chief exercising their right to bypass congress on a number of occasions....so why is it a problem now...pretty obvious, and thus why the divide is terrible....good for your party line, but bad for the other party line is a fairly futile reasoning....a joke actually....it's either all bad or all good regardless of where you sit....
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When you've already made up your mind that you hate someone so bad, there is nothing that you will agree with that they do...it's how the psyche works.....this is why right and left cannot be objective in here or in the nation because everything is slighted for or against just because you despise them or their party...this is a root cause of why America is in a spiral with no end in sight....pretty obvious to see that....
Until people can be neutral in review of things and think on their own this will always be an imbalance in America....
I wonder how many on the left would be in this much strife if a Democrat President did the same thing as this Republican President??
We already know that the whole congress excuse is slighted to favor of whoever is Commander in Chief as is evident in many clips that have been viewed most recently of the Democrats having no problem of their Commander in Chief exercising their right to bypass congress on a number of occasions....so why is it a problem now...pretty obvious, and thus why the divide is terrible....good for your party line, but bad for the other party line is a fairly futile reasoning....a joke actually....it's either all bad or all good regardless of where you sit....
[Quote: Originally Posted by thirdperson]Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: The reasons & justifications changed by the hour. Nothing he or his administration says is believable. . Polls show most Americans disapprove of military strikes against Iran. Apparently, Trump administration reasons for war make no sense. In senate briefing, democrats criticize the lack of information to justify wasting American lives and billions of dollars in illegal and unnecessary war.[/Quote]
Actually, the recent poll I saw had it at a 50/50 split. But even if the vast majority of citizens disapproved of the strikes, is this the most important thing the President should be focused on ??? (NO)
Sometimes, the President has to make difficult decisions that are in the best interest of the ""Country"" , even if the vast majority of its citizens do not recognize it at that time.. The more you Know.
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[Quote: Originally Posted by thirdperson]Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: The reasons & justifications changed by the hour. Nothing he or his administration says is believable. . Polls show most Americans disapprove of military strikes against Iran. Apparently, Trump administration reasons for war make no sense. In senate briefing, democrats criticize the lack of information to justify wasting American lives and billions of dollars in illegal and unnecessary war.[/Quote]
Actually, the recent poll I saw had it at a 50/50 split. But even if the vast majority of citizens disapproved of the strikes, is this the most important thing the President should be focused on ??? (NO)
Sometimes, the President has to make difficult decisions that are in the best interest of the ""Country"" , even if the vast majority of its citizens do not recognize it at that time.. The more you Know.
Your first message was more accurate, you got the point completely. You cry lib foul all the time and yet you KNOW you provoke and then you go cry when someone reacts to your provoking. Are you wanting to use real logic and follow the chain of evidence or just throw rocks and point fingers?
If you are mad at the reply which was made then I should ban rush for the improper rule breaking initial message. I think you are big enough to throw your weight around how about stop crying when a reply comes from a provoked message?
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@Barbarossa
Your first message was more accurate, you got the point completely. You cry lib foul all the time and yet you KNOW you provoke and then you go cry when someone reacts to your provoking. Are you wanting to use real logic and follow the chain of evidence or just throw rocks and point fingers?
If you are mad at the reply which was made then I should ban rush for the improper rule breaking initial message. I think you are big enough to throw your weight around how about stop crying when a reply comes from a provoked message?
What was this decision based on? Should we be the muscle for Israel on whatever they want to do and then couch it based on lies and fraud? Notice that Israel continues its zionist attacks even while this is going on, they went after Lebanon (again) while the muscle is doing their dirty work and paying for it to boot.
Netty is a real piece of garbage but they let him back in after kicking him out and now the war monger engine is in full force and wont stop as long as he is in control.
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@Rush51
What was this decision based on? Should we be the muscle for Israel on whatever they want to do and then couch it based on lies and fraud? Notice that Israel continues its zionist attacks even while this is going on, they went after Lebanon (again) while the muscle is doing their dirty work and paying for it to boot.
Netty is a real piece of garbage but they let him back in after kicking him out and now the war monger engine is in full force and wont stop as long as he is in control.
Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: The reasons & justifications changed by the hour. Nothing he or his administration says is believable. . Polls show most Americans disapprove of military strikes against Iran. Apparently, Trump administration reasons for war make no sense. In senate briefing, democrats criticize the lack of information to justify wasting American lives and billions of dollars in illegal and unnecessary war.
Actually, the recent poll I saw had it at a 50/50 split. But even if the vast majority of citizens disapproved of the strikes, is this the most important thing the President should be focused on ??? (NO) Sometimes, the President has to make difficult decisions that are in the best interest of the ""Country"" , even if the vast majority of its citizens do not recognize it at that time.. The more you Know.
Polls are very misleading because it depends on the demographic of who was polled or who wanted to provide their polling....you talk to the Democrats and the polls are lousy for Republicans, but if you talk to the Republicans the polls are lousy for the Democrats.....this is as bad as the invention of the Cronut....polls should be left to the strippers
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: The reasons & justifications changed by the hour. Nothing he or his administration says is believable. . Polls show most Americans disapprove of military strikes against Iran. Apparently, Trump administration reasons for war make no sense. In senate briefing, democrats criticize the lack of information to justify wasting American lives and billions of dollars in illegal and unnecessary war.
Actually, the recent poll I saw had it at a 50/50 split. But even if the vast majority of citizens disapproved of the strikes, is this the most important thing the President should be focused on ??? (NO) Sometimes, the President has to make difficult decisions that are in the best interest of the ""Country"" , even if the vast majority of its citizens do not recognize it at that time.. The more you Know.
Polls are very misleading because it depends on the demographic of who was polled or who wanted to provide their polling....you talk to the Democrats and the polls are lousy for Republicans, but if you talk to the Republicans the polls are lousy for the Democrats.....this is as bad as the invention of the Cronut....polls should be left to the strippers
So what’s the total price tag for this self inflicted disaster?
The Penn Wharton Budget Model, one of the most respected fiscal analysis operations in Washington, puts the likely direct cost to taxpayers at around $65 billion.
When you factor in the broader economic damage from oil spikes, supply chain disruptions, and trade losses, the total could reach $210 billion.
400 TOMAHAWKS @ 1.4 MIL EACH
PATRIOT MISSILES 4 MIL EACH
THAAD INTERCEPTORS 13 MILLION EACH
And we can't provide quality healthcare for all?
Make sure you remember this bullshit in November
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So what’s the total price tag for this self inflicted disaster?
The Penn Wharton Budget Model, one of the most respected fiscal analysis operations in Washington, puts the likely direct cost to taxpayers at around $65 billion.
When you factor in the broader economic damage from oil spikes, supply chain disruptions, and trade losses, the total could reach $210 billion.
They almost certainly knew. These things are almost always done through the JCC with the base commanders. After Iran started firing into the surrounding gulf states it became very hectic. Then this happened right after they had been hit in the area by an Iranian missile. So, even knowing the USA had planes up, they had a lot of various aircraft and drones and missiles up. Each radar has to correctly identify the aircraft. But misidentification happens in these situations. You saw these friendly fire situations happen to aircraft in the Iraq War and the Gulf War, for example. Thankfully, everyone survived.
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They almost certainly knew. These things are almost always done through the JCC with the base commanders. After Iran started firing into the surrounding gulf states it became very hectic. Then this happened right after they had been hit in the area by an Iranian missile. So, even knowing the USA had planes up, they had a lot of various aircraft and drones and missiles up. Each radar has to correctly identify the aircraft. But misidentification happens in these situations. You saw these friendly fire situations happen to aircraft in the Iraq War and the Gulf War, for example. Thankfully, everyone survived.
All of Trump reasons for war are false according to Center for international policy. Clearly, Iran war is illegal and unnecessary. Although past presidents abuse war making authority, Trump is taking this further. Refusing to seek approval from congress. He functions as a maliciously out-of-control dictator.
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All of Trump reasons for war are false according to Center for international policy. Clearly, Iran war is illegal and unnecessary. Although past presidents abuse war making authority, Trump is taking this further. Refusing to seek approval from congress. He functions as a maliciously out-of-control dictator.
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