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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2010 - 5:43 PM ET #126

    Quote Originally Posted by MajaWaja:

    Thats the issue Ive never bragged about being a winner because I know I don't have the 'proof' as you call it to make such a a statement. You can read my posts. I dont BS, unlike yourself

    Maybe one day Ill beat your ass in poker, take all your money, maybe that will be satisfying. Then Ill be yelling ' Im a winner, Im a winner' LOOK I got Proof'


    well actually yeah you did brag. You were on here saying youre an awesome capper, make big $, and poker was secondary. See your story changes every post and then you say "I dont BS, unlike yourself." Meanwhile, youre bragging about winning money and being such an awesome capper and dont post picks. Like I said, idiocy at its finest

    Also, save the "youre gonna come beat me at poker" crap. Guys like you come and go every week. You spout lies, exaggerate stories, then start making shit up when you get backed in a corner, just like you have here. You'll NEVER deposit a pennny to play me online cuz youre a box (although now ull act "above" it) and you'll probably never even come back to this thread again after today. Yet you'll keep losing online and making excuses and I'll keep winning at laughing at fools like you.

    Like I said also, go to the MLB forum and go start bragging about your big career sports winnings there. See how many people take you seriously when you tell them youre a big winner at sports, yet dont post picks. Then maybe you'll start to see the only one agreeing with all your bullshit is yourself
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    Quote Originally Posted by MajaWaja:

    Thats the issue Ive never bragged about being a winner because I know I don't have the 'proof' as you call it to make such a a statement. You can read my posts. I dont BS, unlike yourself

    Maybe one day Ill beat your ass in poker, take all your money, maybe that will be satisfying. Then Ill be yelling ' Im a winner, Im a winner' LOOK I got Proof'


    well actually yeah you did brag. You were on here saying youre an awesome capper, make big $, and poker was secondary. See your story changes every post and then you say "I dont BS, unlike yourself." Meanwhile, youre bragging about winning money and being such an awesome capper and dont post picks. Like I said, idiocy at its finest

    Also, save the "youre gonna come beat me at poker" crap. Guys like you come and go every week. You spout lies, exaggerate stories, then start making shit up when you get backed in a corner, just like you have here. You'll NEVER deposit a pennny to play me online cuz youre a box (although now ull act "above" it) and you'll probably never even come back to this thread again after today. Yet you'll keep losing online and making excuses and I'll keep winning at laughing at fools like you.

    Like I said also, go to the MLB forum and go start bragging about your big career sports winnings there. See how many people take you seriously when you tell them youre a big winner at sports, yet dont post picks. Then maybe you'll start to see the only one agreeing with all your bullshit is yourself
     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2010 - 5:46 PM ET #127

    MWO - "Im an awesome capper, I make good money betting sports"

    Avg covers poster : "Oh awesome, where do you post your picks?"

    MWO - "Oh I dont. Just believe me when I say Ive always won and always make money betting sports. Im just 'good at the book' ya know!"

    Avg covers poster : "OH" (rolls eyes, goes to next thread)
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    MWO - "Im an awesome capper, I make good money betting sports"

    Avg covers poster : "Oh awesome, where do you post your picks?"

    MWO - "Oh I dont. Just believe me when I say Ive always won and always make money betting sports. Im just 'good at the book' ya know!"

    Avg covers poster : "OH" (rolls eyes, goes to next thread)
     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2010 - 6:14 PM ET #128

    Your a broken record.

    Quote me, my story hasn't changed, you keep making up a story as you go because your so god dam bored and want to keep talking to me. You keep bringing it on me like I want to talk about myself. Take your head out of your ass your not important, no one cares about you
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    Your a broken record.

    Quote me, my story hasn't changed, you keep making up a story as you go because your so god dam bored and want to keep talking to me. You keep bringing it on me like I want to talk about myself. Take your head out of your ass your not important, no one cares about you
     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2010 - 6:28 PM ET #129

    Quote Originally Posted by MajaWaja:

    Your a broken record.

    Quote me, my story hasn't changed, you keep making up a story as you go because your so god dam bored and want to keep talking to me. You keep bringing it on me like I want to talk about myself. Take your head out of your ass your not important, no one cares about you





    youre right dude. You lose $ playing poker so we should take your word on the topic of online poker. Also, you are an awesome capper and always win but never post picks.

     Ok, I finally understand now
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    Quote Originally Posted by MajaWaja:

    Your a broken record.

    Quote me, my story hasn't changed, you keep making up a story as you go because your so god dam bored and want to keep talking to me. You keep bringing it on me like I want to talk about myself. Take your head out of your ass your not important, no one cares about you





    youre right dude. You lose $ playing poker so we should take your word on the topic of online poker. Also, you are an awesome capper and always win but never post picks.

     Ok, I finally understand now
     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2010 - 6:45 PM ET #130

    I offered an opinion/view on the integrity of online poker, which shattered your heart because you really want to believe all your hard work is based on skill and everything was fair, right fuckin on. If you believe online poker is not manipulated at all you are quite delusional and well dont comprehend if you know what I mean. Dude, Ill give you articles, there have been known instances on major poker sites, super user accounts for example, all kinds of manipulative shit and you sit there and try to bring the story on me and make it about me.

    Sorry, posting picks on covers is second to actually making money and making picks on my own book. I started posting recently and it hasnt been my priority. But hey, Ill make some more picks so I can get that all important 'proof' so my sentences aren't challenged by inbred poker players when I post in their forum
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    I offered an opinion/view on the integrity of online poker, which shattered your heart because you really want to believe all your hard work is based on skill and everything was fair, right fuckin on. If you believe online poker is not manipulated at all you are quite delusional and well dont comprehend if you know what I mean. Dude, Ill give you articles, there have been known instances on major poker sites, super user accounts for example, all kinds of manipulative shit and you sit there and try to bring the story on me and make it about me.

    Sorry, posting picks on covers is second to actually making money and making picks on my own book. I started posting recently and it hasnt been my priority. But hey, Ill make some more picks so I can get that all important 'proof' so my sentences aren't challenged by inbred poker players when I post in their forum
     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2010 - 6:47 PM ET #131

    Quote Originally Posted by electricladylnd:






    youre right dude. You lose $ playing poker so we should take your word on the topic of online poker. Also, you are an awesome capper and always win but never post picks.

     Ok, I finally understand now
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    youre right dude. You lose $ playing poker so we should take your word on the topic of online poker. Also, you are an awesome capper and always win but never post picks.

     Ok, I finally understand now
     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2010 - 7:00 PM ET #132

    Quote Originally Posted by MajaWaja:



    I offered an opinion/view on the integrity of online poker, which shattered your heart because you really want to believe all your hard work is based on skill and everything was fair




    Yes, and you want to blame all your losses on everything being unfair so you can feel good about yourself

    Like I said, same ol same ol
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    Quote Originally Posted by MajaWaja:



    I offered an opinion/view on the integrity of online poker, which shattered your heart because you really want to believe all your hard work is based on skill and everything was fair




    Yes, and you want to blame all your losses on everything being unfair so you can feel good about yourself

    Like I said, same ol same ol
     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2010 - 7:04 PM ET #133

    Answer my question: Do you believe there is no corruption/manipulation in online poker? Any at all?
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    Answer my question: Do you believe there is no corruption/manipulation in online poker? Any at all?
     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2010 - 8:21 PM ET #134

    Quote Originally Posted by Tippster:

    No I didn't.  I simply asked why people are posting at that time of night as in my situation I know I wouldn't.  Me posting on a message board at 3pm EST sounds a little more respectable thant at 5 am.  No idiocy in that.  Everyone is free to do whatever they want whenever they want, but I was just curious why people would run to check covers forums if they coming home from a night out?  That's it.

    I am not implying that it's wrong, was just curiuos that's all.  And I have mentioned it in other threads in the past and never really got an answer, so ElectricladyIN I wasn't referring to you bud.  If you took it the wrong way then I apologize.

    i understand what youre asking so ill give you my reason. i get up 5 days a week at 2 a.m. to go to work. Been doing this for years. I dont get up later than 3 a.m. on my days off. Not a whole lot to do a that time of day, so enjoy coming in here and reading and posting. ok?   

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tippster:

    No I didn't.  I simply asked why people are posting at that time of night as in my situation I know I wouldn't.  Me posting on a message board at 3pm EST sounds a little more respectable thant at 5 am.  No idiocy in that.  Everyone is free to do whatever they want whenever they want, but I was just curious why people would run to check covers forums if they coming home from a night out?  That's it.

    I am not implying that it's wrong, was just curiuos that's all.  And I have mentioned it in other threads in the past and never really got an answer, so ElectricladyIN I wasn't referring to you bud.  If you took it the wrong way then I apologize.

    i understand what youre asking so ill give you my reason. i get up 5 days a week at 2 a.m. to go to work. Been doing this for years. I dont get up later than 3 a.m. on my days off. Not a whole lot to do a that time of day, so enjoy coming in here and reading and posting. ok?   

     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2010 - 8:23 PM ET #135

    and futhermore tippster, why argue with electric, hes a fucing moron.
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    and futhermore tippster, why argue with electric, hes a fucing moron.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2010 - 8:27 PM ET #136

    Quote Originally Posted by electricladylnd:

     



    and not having to deal with a nagging wife,

     i guess you guys were right, he is a flamer!!!!! 
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    and not having to deal with a nagging wife,

     i guess you guys were right, he is a flamer!!!!! 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2010 - 8:30 PM ET #137

    Quote Originally Posted by electricladylnd:



    Yes, havent played much the last month at all. But if youd like to play sometime lemme know and we can match up.

    But you just wanna come watch me play. You never deposit $ or play online so

    How much you want to play for as for full tilt have not played there for awhile had sucess on PKR-Partypoker-Pokerfan-888 but 3 of those you cannot play at so let's go with Merge make it your time could play for $100-$200

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by electricladylnd:



    Yes, havent played much the last month at all. But if youd like to play sometime lemme know and we can match up.

    But you just wanna come watch me play. You never deposit $ or play online so

    How much you want to play for as for full tilt have not played there for awhile had sucess on PKR-Partypoker-Pokerfan-888 but 3 of those you cannot play at so let's go with Merge make it your time could play for $100-$200

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2010 - 8:36 PM ET #138

    Let this be on Thurs or weekend usually too tired to play on weekdays since I work usually 6am -4pm.

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    Let this be on Thurs or weekend usually too tired to play on weekdays since I work usually 6am -4pm.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 18, 2010 - 11:05 PM ET #139

    Quote Originally Posted by gers:

    How much you want to play for as for full tilt have not played there for awhile had sucess on PKR-Partypoker-Pokerfan-888 but 3 of those you cannot play at so let's go with Merge make it your time could play for $100-$200

     

     





    Whenever you deposit at fulltilt lemme know pal. You can play on all those other sites all  you want
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    How much you want to play for as for full tilt have not played there for awhile had sucess on PKR-Partypoker-Pokerfan-888 but 3 of those you cannot play at so let's go with Merge make it your time could play for $100-$200

     

     





    Whenever you deposit at fulltilt lemme know pal. You can play on all those other sites all  you want
     
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    Posted: Jul. 19, 2010 - 12:05 AM ET #140

    You haven' answered my question
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    Posted: Jul. 19, 2010 - 12:25 AM ET #141

    Quote Originally Posted by MajaWaja:

    You haven' answered my question


    oh sorry pal i actually didnt even see it.

    Anyways, I believe absolutely people have cheated. The AP/UB scandal, the russ hamilton saga, all that stuff. But I dont believe for one second that one penny youve ever lost online has been the result of any "superuser" accounts and such. Sure maybe 2-3 dudes at a cash table on the phone talking to each other on occasion but that "advantage" is so overblown its not even worth mentioning really,

    So no I dont for a second believe that nothing has ever happened. Just like there have been many cheating scams caught live as well. But if you play on any reputable site and have put in any kind of volume (which most dont) and are still losing then its because youre not that good, not cuz the site is rigging the action against you. Then when I come on and say I have and do win consistently you try and act like I have some "lucky account" and Im not doing anything differently than you at all except "running better" or "getting more favorable cards" which is complete fucking hogwash, just fairy tales from a donkey

    SO thats where I stand. People have cracked in at times absolutely. Often? not even remotely close. Has you ever been "cheated" out of some money online? No fucking way. Do some sites just "have it in for you?" Not even close. You havent done 5% of the work to work on your game as I have so when you act like youre just a good player who always gets fucked online its just sour grapes from a losing player
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    You haven' answered my question


    oh sorry pal i actually didnt even see it.

    Anyways, I believe absolutely people have cheated. The AP/UB scandal, the russ hamilton saga, all that stuff. But I dont believe for one second that one penny youve ever lost online has been the result of any "superuser" accounts and such. Sure maybe 2-3 dudes at a cash table on the phone talking to each other on occasion but that "advantage" is so overblown its not even worth mentioning really,

    So no I dont for a second believe that nothing has ever happened. Just like there have been many cheating scams caught live as well. But if you play on any reputable site and have put in any kind of volume (which most dont) and are still losing then its because youre not that good, not cuz the site is rigging the action against you. Then when I come on and say I have and do win consistently you try and act like I have some "lucky account" and Im not doing anything differently than you at all except "running better" or "getting more favorable cards" which is complete fucking hogwash, just fairy tales from a donkey

    SO thats where I stand. People have cracked in at times absolutely. Often? not even remotely close. Has you ever been "cheated" out of some money online? No fucking way. Do some sites just "have it in for you?" Not even close. You havent done 5% of the work to work on your game as I have so when you act like youre just a good player who always gets fucked online its just sour grapes from a losing player
     
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    Whenever you deposit at fulltilt lemme know pal. You can play on all those other sites all  you want

    Cmon join Merge easy cash there and by the way you would win against me anyway  since you called me out and with Tilt I cannot enter anything since my email change and they never got back to me so FUCK THEM.

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    Whenever you deposit at fulltilt lemme know pal. You can play on all those other sites all  you want

    Cmon join Merge easy cash there and by the way you would win against me anyway  since you called me out and with Tilt I cannot enter anything since my email change and they never got back to me so FUCK THEM.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by gers:

    Cmon join Merge easy cash there and by the way you would win against me anyway  since you called me out and with Tilt I cannot enter anything since my email change and they never got back to me so FUCK THEM.





    Yes, fulltilt's customer service dept is about the worst of any company (poker or not) that Ive ever seen. Youre lucky to even get a response from them lol
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    Cmon join Merge easy cash there and by the way you would win against me anyway  since you called me out and with Tilt I cannot enter anything since my email change and they never got back to me so FUCK THEM.





    Yes, fulltilt's customer service dept is about the worst of any company (poker or not) that Ive ever seen. Youre lucky to even get a response from them lol
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by electricladylnd:



    oh sorry pal i actually didnt even see it.

    Anyways, I believe absolutely people have cheated. The AP/UB scandal, the russ hamilton saga, all that stuff. But I dont believe for one second that one penny youve ever lost online has been the result of any "superuser" accounts and such. Sure maybe 2-3 dudes at a cash table on the phone talking to each other on occasion but that "advantage" is so overblown its not even worth mentioning really,

    On occasion?

    I know people who do this. Sometimes they have 4 or 5 of them at a time at the same table. This is one of the main reasons why I quit playing online years ago.

    If you know 8 of the cards in the deck and who has them this gives you a HUGE advantage, especially when there may only be 2 or 3 cards that could possibly beat your hand or your "Partners". the odds are grossly in you and your friend's favor.

    Think about playing at a local home game with friends where it is ok at the table to have 2 or 3 guys openly sharing what they have. Would you play there?

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    oh sorry pal i actually didnt even see it.

    Anyways, I believe absolutely people have cheated. The AP/UB scandal, the russ hamilton saga, all that stuff. But I dont believe for one second that one penny youve ever lost online has been the result of any "superuser" accounts and such. Sure maybe 2-3 dudes at a cash table on the phone talking to each other on occasion but that "advantage" is so overblown its not even worth mentioning really,

    On occasion?

    I know people who do this. Sometimes they have 4 or 5 of them at a time at the same table. This is one of the main reasons why I quit playing online years ago.

    If you know 8 of the cards in the deck and who has them this gives you a HUGE advantage, especially when there may only be 2 or 3 cards that could possibly beat your hand or your "Partners". the odds are grossly in you and your friend's favor.

    Think about playing at a local home game with friends where it is ok at the table to have 2 or 3 guys openly sharing what they have. Would you play there?

     
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    As a matter of fact now that I think about it, I played cards at a friend of a friend's house last year and the host's wife was playing online and she had 3 Instant Messege boxes up with people that she was sharing cards with.

    I honestly think this is a VERY common thing that is going on all over the world.

     

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    As a matter of fact now that I think about it, I played cards at a friend of a friend's house last year and the host's wife was playing online and she had 3 Instant Messege boxes up with people that she was sharing cards with.

    I honestly think this is a VERY common thing that is going on all over the world.

     

     
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    Hey guys i am a very very avid online player as well.... I have had my moments and won significant amounts but a large tourney cash has eluded me ive had rakes of (9000, 6500, 4500, 3600, 3000) ive tried the grinding method multi-tabling sngs but i just really have run poorly... I have finally come to the conclusion that my bankroll is simply not large enough.  People who think online is rigged u need to understand that u will not win every 60/40 shot your in even tho you do have an edge u will lose these and i will tell u that wen u are losing these u will lose many in a row ! If you think you are a good player and want to make money you literally need a bankroll of about 150-200x what you plan on playing i know it sounds ridiculous but its true poker is like craps and the ups and downs are absurd.  I have never followed this and i am constantly going broke because i deposit $200 play a few $50 sngs move up the stakes play some $100 sngs move up and i mean its not a logical method u need to sufficiently be prepared for this roller coaster ride online faces you. 

    These sites are not RIGGED you just need to know how to play and play it consistantly... realize what your are good at... are u patient (mtt) aggressive (cash games) or a combo (sngs)?  get a bankroll together do it right and i garuntee u will make money 

    Please dont bash me this is my take on online poker coming from a kid who paid off his car from playing.  I literally used to grind 4-8 hours a day.  I have gone broke since then because of these
    enormous bankroll swings and am currently saving to move onto the live circuit.  GL
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    Hey guys i am a very very avid online player as well.... I have had my moments and won significant amounts but a large tourney cash has eluded me ive had rakes of (9000, 6500, 4500, 3600, 3000) ive tried the grinding method multi-tabling sngs but i just really have run poorly... I have finally come to the conclusion that my bankroll is simply not large enough.  People who think online is rigged u need to understand that u will not win every 60/40 shot your in even tho you do have an edge u will lose these and i will tell u that wen u are losing these u will lose many in a row ! If you think you are a good player and want to make money you literally need a bankroll of about 150-200x what you plan on playing i know it sounds ridiculous but its true poker is like craps and the ups and downs are absurd.  I have never followed this and i am constantly going broke because i deposit $200 play a few $50 sngs move up the stakes play some $100 sngs move up and i mean its not a logical method u need to sufficiently be prepared for this roller coaster ride online faces you. 

    These sites are not RIGGED you just need to know how to play and play it consistantly... realize what your are good at... are u patient (mtt) aggressive (cash games) or a combo (sngs)?  get a bankroll together do it right and i garuntee u will make money 

    Please dont bash me this is my take on online poker coming from a kid who paid off his car from playing.  I literally used to grind 4-8 hours a day.  I have gone broke since then because of these
    enormous bankroll swings and am currently saving to move onto the live circuit.  GL
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by neverHitsbig:

    Hey guys i am a very very avid online player as well.... I have had my moments and won significant amounts but a large tourney cash has eluded me ive had rakes of (9000, 6500, 4500, 3600, 3000) ive tried the grinding method multi-tabling sngs but i just really have run poorly... I have finally come to the conclusion that my bankroll is simply not large enough.  People who think online is rigged u need to understand that u will not win every 60/40 shot your in even tho you do have an edge u will lose these and i will tell u that wen u are losing these u will lose many in a row ! If you think you are a good player and want to make money you literally need a bankroll of about 150-200x what you plan on playing i know it sounds ridiculous but its true poker is like craps and the ups and downs are absurd.  I have never followed this and i am constantly going broke because i deposit $200 play a few $50 sngs move up the stakes play some $100 sngs move up and i mean its not a logical method u need to sufficiently be prepared for this roller coaster ride online faces you. 

    These sites are not RIGGED you just need to know how to play and play it consistantly... realize what your are good at... are u patient (mtt) aggressive (cash games) or a combo (sngs)?  get a bankroll together do it right and i garuntee u will make money 

    Please dont bash me this is my take on online poker coming from a kid who paid off his car from playing.  I literally used to grind 4-8 hours a day.  I have gone broke since then because of these
    enormous bankroll swings and am currently saving to move onto the live circuit.  GL

    Ive had my share of nice sessions as well. The most I ever won was around $3,500 one night. I used to play at a poker site run out of allpro. Then the site started getting weird. People were jumping in and out of tables every hand (I think due to connections getting fucked up) , the place would freeze up right in the middle of games and other goofy shit like that.

    I like to think that it isn't rigged, but then you hear these crazy stories about how guys got busted cheating at these well known sites and it make you skepticle to play there because you never know what people could be doing behind the scenes.

    My main concern is collusions between partners. I think if you get 3 really good players together at a table that you just can't win against them.

    I remember reading an article a little while ago that claimed that 1 out of 6 players that play online were  working with a partner (Or partners) Of course if you read other articles from the online sites, they claim that these type of collaberations don't work and the "Cheaters" give up, but I think they just say this to deter people from working together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by neverHitsbig:

    Hey guys i am a very very avid online player as well.... I have had my moments and won significant amounts but a large tourney cash has eluded me ive had rakes of (9000, 6500, 4500, 3600, 3000) ive tried the grinding method multi-tabling sngs but i just really have run poorly... I have finally come to the conclusion that my bankroll is simply not large enough.  People who think online is rigged u need to understand that u will not win every 60/40 shot your in even tho you do have an edge u will lose these and i will tell u that wen u are losing these u will lose many in a row ! If you think you are a good player and want to make money you literally need a bankroll of about 150-200x what you plan on playing i know it sounds ridiculous but its true poker is like craps and the ups and downs are absurd.  I have never followed this and i am constantly going broke because i deposit $200 play a few $50 sngs move up the stakes play some $100 sngs move up and i mean its not a logical method u need to sufficiently be prepared for this roller coaster ride online faces you. 

    These sites are not RIGGED you just need to know how to play and play it consistantly... realize what your are good at... are u patient (mtt) aggressive (cash games) or a combo (sngs)?  get a bankroll together do it right and i garuntee u will make money 

    Please dont bash me this is my take on online poker coming from a kid who paid off his car from playing.  I literally used to grind 4-8 hours a day.  I have gone broke since then because of these
    enormous bankroll swings and am currently saving to move onto the live circuit.  GL

    Ive had my share of nice sessions as well. The most I ever won was around $3,500 one night. I used to play at a poker site run out of allpro. Then the site started getting weird. People were jumping in and out of tables every hand (I think due to connections getting fucked up) , the place would freeze up right in the middle of games and other goofy shit like that.

    I like to think that it isn't rigged, but then you hear these crazy stories about how guys got busted cheating at these well known sites and it make you skepticle to play there because you never know what people could be doing behind the scenes.

    My main concern is collusions between partners. I think if you get 3 really good players together at a table that you just can't win against them.

    I remember reading an article a little while ago that claimed that 1 out of 6 players that play online were  working with a partner (Or partners) Of course if you read other articles from the online sites, they claim that these type of collaberations don't work and the "Cheaters" give up, but I think they just say this to deter people from working together.

     
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    Electric, how the hell would you be so sure that I haven't been involved in any 'irregular' (manipulated) action on my site?

    Regardless of electrics naivety, I know that PartyPoker is rigged, more than just a few players working together via phone. To me, that's stuff you can expect, so its fair game in a way. Nothing to complain about.

    Im not complaining about rigged online poker, like I tell electric, I've won some and lost some, Im not making a statement based on any personal record but from my experiences on playing on this specific site for 4-5 years and experiences from many other members of the site. If I was rich from the site, Id still tell you its rigged, to me its common sense. You have to be on PartyPoker, you will understand.

    Here is a glimpse of what Im talking about:
    Random number generator is a big problem, Ive talked to some that have used PokerTracker, and they said there is a significant difference from other poker sites. Also when you multi-table on the site, you can tell there is an uncanny relationship btwn the cards from both tables, I typically sit relative on both tables and a lot of similarity arises within the different tables. Just shows the decks are seeded perhaps maybe not as random as they should be. Perhaps someone out their has learned a way to exploit this and use it to their advantage.

     They also
    have some type of mechanism in place to "encourage" action, specifically in tourneys. Some type of algorithmic formula which quickens the pace of the game by eliminating players with smaller bankrolls, essentially ending the games quicker. Why is their a difference between the cards flopped (number of action cards) in tourneys and cash games? They should be similar, you can tell immediately that the cards given to you differ from cash games and tournaments and also low stakes to high stakes. There shouldn't be a discrepancy. But most evidently shown, the number of 'river' kills is extremely high. Many people on the site complain about this not just me. The consistency of the bad beats can become comical at times. I've played the game long enough to know the probability of stuff happening. Believe me I expect bad beats all the time, they happen, I dont freak over small shit but its the 'consistency' of some really 'irregular' shit that made me question it initially. I mean the players know it but we still play because it doesnt' necessarily mean we are going to lose or win but we will be effected by the game being manipulated in some way. We like to hope at least the sites dont single out players and we hope none of the hands are predetermined but who really knows the exact llevel of manipulation some of these sites may be using.

    Also, many people mention their performance going downhill (via bad beats) after they win a significant amount or cash or after a few meaningful cash outs, not just from my site but across various sites. This would be very hard to prove, Im not even saying the sites fix players to lose after a certain hot streak but I wouldn't entirely rule something like this out to some extent considering the benefits for the site.
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    Electric, how the hell would you be so sure that I haven't been involved in any 'irregular' (manipulated) action on my site?

    Regardless of electrics naivety, I know that PartyPoker is rigged, more than just a few players working together via phone. To me, that's stuff you can expect, so its fair game in a way. Nothing to complain about.

    Im not complaining about rigged online poker, like I tell electric, I've won some and lost some, Im not making a statement based on any personal record but from my experiences on playing on this specific site for 4-5 years and experiences from many other members of the site. If I was rich from the site, Id still tell you its rigged, to me its common sense. You have to be on PartyPoker, you will understand.

    Here is a glimpse of what Im talking about:
    Random number generator is a big problem, Ive talked to some that have used PokerTracker, and they said there is a significant difference from other poker sites. Also when you multi-table on the site, you can tell there is an uncanny relationship btwn the cards from both tables, I typically sit relative on both tables and a lot of similarity arises within the different tables. Just shows the decks are seeded perhaps maybe not as random as they should be. Perhaps someone out their has learned a way to exploit this and use it to their advantage.

     They also
    have some type of mechanism in place to "encourage" action, specifically in tourneys. Some type of algorithmic formula which quickens the pace of the game by eliminating players with smaller bankrolls, essentially ending the games quicker. Why is their a difference between the cards flopped (number of action cards) in tourneys and cash games? They should be similar, you can tell immediately that the cards given to you differ from cash games and tournaments and also low stakes to high stakes. There shouldn't be a discrepancy. But most evidently shown, the number of 'river' kills is extremely high. Many people on the site complain about this not just me. The consistency of the bad beats can become comical at times. I've played the game long enough to know the probability of stuff happening. Believe me I expect bad beats all the time, they happen, I dont freak over small shit but its the 'consistency' of some really 'irregular' shit that made me question it initially. I mean the players know it but we still play because it doesnt' necessarily mean we are going to lose or win but we will be effected by the game being manipulated in some way. We like to hope at least the sites dont single out players and we hope none of the hands are predetermined but who really knows the exact llevel of manipulation some of these sites may be using.

    Also, many people mention their performance going downhill (via bad beats) after they win a significant amount or cash or after a few meaningful cash outs, not just from my site but across various sites. This would be very hard to prove, Im not even saying the sites fix players to lose after a certain hot streak but I wouldn't entirely rule something like this out to some extent considering the benefits for the site.
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MajaWaja:

    Electric, how the hell would you be so sure that I haven't been involved in any 'irregular' (manipulated) action on my site?

    Regardless of electrics naivety, I know that PartyPoker is rigged, more than just a few players working together via phone. To me, that's stuff you can expect, so its fair game in a way. Nothing to complain about.

    Im not complaining about rigged online poker, like I tell electric, I've won some and lost some, Im not making a statement based on any personal record but from my experiences on playing on this specific site for 4-5 years and experiences from many other members of the site. If I was rich from the site, Id still tell you its rigged, to me its common sense. You have to be on PartyPoker, you will understand.

    Here is a glimpse of what Im talking about:
    Random number generator is a big problem, Ive talked to some that have used PokerTracker, and they said there is a significant difference from other poker sites. Also when you multi-table on the site, you can tell there is an uncanny relationship btwn the cards from both tables, I typically sit relative on both tables and a lot of similarity arises within the different tables. Just shows the decks are seeded perhaps maybe not as random as they should be. Perhaps someone out their has learned a way to exploit this and use it to their advantage.

     They also
    have some type of mechanism in place to "encourage" action, specifically in tourneys. Some type of algorithmic formula which quickens the pace of the game by eliminating players with smaller bankrolls, essentially ending the games quicker. Why is their a difference between the cards flopped (number of action cards) in tourneys and cash games? They should be similar, you can tell immediately that the cards given to you differ from cash games and tournaments and also low stakes to high stakes. There shouldn't be a discrepancy. But most evidently shown, the number of 'river' kills is extremely high. Many people on the site complain about this not just me. The consistency of the bad beats can become comical at times. I've played the game long enough to know the probability of stuff happening. Believe me I expect bad beats all the time, they happen, I dont freak over small shit but its the 'consistency' of some really 'irregular' shit that made me question it initially. I mean the players know it but we still play because it doesnt' necessarily mean we are going to lose or win but we will be effected by the game being manipulated in some way. We like to hope at least the sites dont single out players and we hope none of the hands are predetermined but who really knows the exact llevel of manipulation some of these sites may be using.

    Also, many people mention their performance going downhill (via bad beats) after they win a significant amount or cash or after a few meaningful cash outs, not just from my site but across various sites. This would be very hard to prove, Im not even saying the sites fix players to lose after a certain hot streak but I wouldn't entirely rule something like this out to some extent considering the benefits for the site.


    Youre the exact guy Im talkin about, lol yeesh

    The other guys are at least talking about scandals and colluding which are definitely concerns. My whole thing all along is that the sites are not rigging the hands against you and you unfortunatley are one of those morons who think they do.

    Your proof, like always, is overwhelming. Youve :"talked to a few guys that use PT3" and you "say" they have a mechanism in place to encourage action. Well thats enough for me!!!

    Try playing good poker for a few weeks straight and I think you'll see everything is just fine. But you'll keep blaming the site and saying the world is against you while I keep winning. Thats cool with me too
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    Quote Originally Posted by MajaWaja:

    Electric, how the hell would you be so sure that I haven't been involved in any 'irregular' (manipulated) action on my site?

    Regardless of electrics naivety, I know that PartyPoker is rigged, more than just a few players working together via phone. To me, that's stuff you can expect, so its fair game in a way. Nothing to complain about.

    Im not complaining about rigged online poker, like I tell electric, I've won some and lost some, Im not making a statement based on any personal record but from my experiences on playing on this specific site for 4-5 years and experiences from many other members of the site. If I was rich from the site, Id still tell you its rigged, to me its common sense. You have to be on PartyPoker, you will understand.

    Here is a glimpse of what Im talking about:
    Random number generator is a big problem, Ive talked to some that have used PokerTracker, and they said there is a significant difference from other poker sites. Also when you multi-table on the site, you can tell there is an uncanny relationship btwn the cards from both tables, I typically sit relative on both tables and a lot of similarity arises within the different tables. Just shows the decks are seeded perhaps maybe not as random as they should be. Perhaps someone out their has learned a way to exploit this and use it to their advantage.

     They also
    have some type of mechanism in place to "encourage" action, specifically in tourneys. Some type of algorithmic formula which quickens the pace of the game by eliminating players with smaller bankrolls, essentially ending the games quicker. Why is their a difference between the cards flopped (number of action cards) in tourneys and cash games? They should be similar, you can tell immediately that the cards given to you differ from cash games and tournaments and also low stakes to high stakes. There shouldn't be a discrepancy. But most evidently shown, the number of 'river' kills is extremely high. Many people on the site complain about this not just me. The consistency of the bad beats can become comical at times. I've played the game long enough to know the probability of stuff happening. Believe me I expect bad beats all the time, they happen, I dont freak over small shit but its the 'consistency' of some really 'irregular' shit that made me question it initially. I mean the players know it but we still play because it doesnt' necessarily mean we are going to lose or win but we will be effected by the game being manipulated in some way. We like to hope at least the sites dont single out players and we hope none of the hands are predetermined but who really knows the exact llevel of manipulation some of these sites may be using.

    Also, many people mention their performance going downhill (via bad beats) after they win a significant amount or cash or after a few meaningful cash outs, not just from my site but across various sites. This would be very hard to prove, Im not even saying the sites fix players to lose after a certain hot streak but I wouldn't entirely rule something like this out to some extent considering the benefits for the site.


    Youre the exact guy Im talkin about, lol yeesh

    The other guys are at least talking about scandals and colluding which are definitely concerns. My whole thing all along is that the sites are not rigging the hands against you and you unfortunatley are one of those morons who think they do.

    Your proof, like always, is overwhelming. Youve :"talked to a few guys that use PT3" and you "say" they have a mechanism in place to encourage action. Well thats enough for me!!!

    Try playing good poker for a few weeks straight and I think you'll see everything is just fine. But you'll keep blaming the site and saying the world is against you while I keep winning. Thats cool with me too
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