How would you have played this hand?

If you had no read on player on button who called your all in (or other players for that matter)  then going all in was very risky in early position & it proved evident because you did get called. You haven't answered my question on wether you had a good read on any of those players i'm asking because i think this was crucial in making a decision for all your chips OOP.

Also You can't assume all players will call reason why you have to test the waters with a raise. All players don't play the same way, some may call due to pot odds and some may be tight and opt to lay down mediocre hand after a big raise. I could be wrong but it seems evident you had no real read on the player on the button who called your all in with a disgusting hand, he obviously was a very loose player making that sort of call with 4's in the hole and you may have failed to spot this.


I was chatting with a few of my friends about this hand, these doods have some serious bankrolls playing poker on line and live and they pretty much said you butchered the hand. They also said AQ isn't as strong as you may think let alone a hand you go all in with especially on SB.


Patience was the key and making the right decision at the right time is poker in essence. I don't really know why you really felt the need to push just to pick up like $1750 pot (including your 300 had you just called). The reward wasn't all that great to begin with!!





Go post on fullcontactpoker

obviously you didn't comprehend what i said ghost! and in turn i don't think anybody will ever comprehend anything you ever say

i was meant to say:

Go post on fullcontactpoker, it's daniel negreanu's site. Post this hand in their forum and people there will give you every angle possible on this hand. There are some pretty knowledgeable people on that site, not to say covers doesn't but that site's whole  members are poker crazy geeks.

this is really the only place i disagree if you get called youre racing at best and probably completely dominated.  i dont see aj calling you there EVER.

so if someone goes all in late in a tournament and you got qq you should fold

Doyle Brunson said this, do you think he is dumb? Why don't you write your own book Clown? I think he could have better said don't go broke with AQ or KQ, two trouble hands that are overplayed by many. I have seen Doyle fold AQ at times, also hands like 44. Anyways his point is that AQ will lose to AK or big pockets too much. And KQ same thing. And QQ, what do you do when an ace hits the flop. By the way, Doyle made the best laydown I have seen, QQ on a flop of J 2 x, he made it like 300K, Chip Reese min raised to $600K, Doyle chucked it, said he had QQ, noone could belive it at the table, excpet TJ Cloutier said that Doyle could have laid down QQ if he knew he was beat. So Clown I guess you couldn't lay it down right?

 

yup, he didn't mean it in a literal sense more a general statement for his life experiences with being beat in hands holding a "Q" in his hand.

Would you get it all in with AQ if there was a raise and a re-raise for all your chips?

Crucrnshw,

How are you doing my friend? Before I begin, I must let you know that I know nothing about tournament poker.  I have no idea if your play was good/bad/average or horrible and don't want to fathem to guess.  However, one point that we have discussed in the past has reared its head once again.

"know what you guys are saying and 90% of the time I play like that. Its not as if that situation happens im going to go AI everytime. I just thought it would be a diff play, which I thought wasnt bad. I needed to mix it up a little, and I had a hand that if someone called was pretty good."

Many will disagree with me on this point but so be it!  You are playing online poker with 100,000 of different people.  Many players are playing numerous tables (atleast the good one's) and they don't have time to make precise reads on betting paterns.  They are categorizing you generally as tight/loose and that is about it.  Why do you need to change up your play?  Who are you fooling?  How many hands have you actually shown at the table? Most people think they need to change up there play to often.  Unless you are playing against the same guys on a daily basis then you do not need to change up your play that often! reread! 

Remember when we discussed semi bluffing when you were in Vegas?  No need to do it!  Most of these players are to concerned about what they hold; and probably have very little little idea (if any) idea what you hold.  I suggest, you stick to your tight aggressive game.  Deal with the occassional suck outs and get your money in good more often then not.  If you played your standard game (which I believe no one at the table knows) you are still in the tournament with plenty of chips.  You will have a better spot to get your money in down the road.

When are we going to get a covers game on Full Tilt?   I would love to play a little no limit against the forrum.  The chat box would be extremely entertaining.

All the best,

ME

 

I was just going through some poker sites and found this article on a player who was dealt AQ vs 44:

https://news.pokerpages.com/index.php?option=com_simpleblog&task=view&id=416

kinda similar situation here where AQ was in early position and 44 was held by a guy whom he thought was tight. Only diff is he opted to raise just below 4xBB instead of pushing it all in.

This was a cooler though where as yours was more of a gamble.

And then funnily enough i was playing online tourny last night and got into a cooler situation myself with non other than the infamous AQ and in early position. It was down to the final 105 players out of a field of 1400 players, blinds were 200/400 & i have only about 7k in chips.

I have AQ UTG and decide to raise just over 4XBB to 1700 total.

I get 4 callers lol.

Flop: 8Q6os

I check, 3 after me check and the 4th player bets out about 2k in almost a 7k pot. I thought my trap worked here and if i was to call 2k on the flop which would be almost half my stack that i was pretty much committed all the way anyway so i pushed it all in and the 3 other players folded.

Showdown : AQ and he shows pocket 8's lol.


There really wasn't much i could do here as i flopped top pair with Ace kicker.


moral of the story and this thread is ultimately AQ is not a vey strong hand as most would think. I would raise with AQ absolutely and if the flop doesn't help and there was a bet i'd fold 'em, would i call a tight player with AQ if he raised? i probably wouldn't. Nor would i ever call a re-raise after a raise with AQ that would be suicide and i often play the gap concept.


here's another article on AQ

https://www.cardplayer.com/magazine/article/12287

yeah good thing with flopping Q with a hand like AQ is i have an Ace kicker rather than flopping an Ace with a Q kicker and beat with AK so it would seem like a pretty good flop. Unless player who flopped a set bet out pot or close to it then i would have had to go into the think tank and think of folding but he trapped me pretty good with a weak bet disguising his hand well.