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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2015 - 4:16 PM ET #76

    Hey Phix,

    I look at Atlanta to be the Eagles team of 2014. The Falcons have major leaks in their defense. Atlanta allows a lot of rushing yds and receptions by the running back along with big yardage plays by the #1 wideout. The Falcons have only seen 1 capable QB and that was week 2 with Eli.

    Cousins is putting up great numbers and should be able to get the ball to Garcon. Alfred Morris is a duel threat RB and should also have success against this mediocre Atlanta D.

    Love the 'Skins this week!
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    Hey Phix,

    I look at Atlanta to be the Eagles team of 2014. The Falcons have major leaks in their defense. Atlanta allows a lot of rushing yds and receptions by the running back along with big yardage plays by the #1 wideout. The Falcons have only seen 1 capable QB and that was week 2 with Eli.

    Cousins is putting up great numbers and should be able to get the ball to Garcon. Alfred Morris is a duel threat RB and should also have success against this mediocre Atlanta D.

    Love the 'Skins this week!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2015 - 5:17 PM ET #77

    Arz lost the Rams because of poor offensive plays, turnovers and lack of execution. 20% red zone efficiency, two fumbles and one INT, four QB sacks by Palmer. Resulting in 5 FG's. 

    Do you think that happens again in Detroit ? I'll take my chances with Zona and the Over.  
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    Arz lost the Rams because of poor offensive plays, turnovers and lack of execution. 20% red zone efficiency, two fumbles and one INT, four QB sacks by Palmer. Resulting in 5 FG's. 

    Do you think that happens again in Detroit ? I'll take my chances with Zona and the Over.  
     
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2015 - 5:35 PM ET #78

    Who knows who better...Bruce Arians and Jim Caldwell?
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    Who knows who better...Bruce Arians and Jim Caldwell?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2015 - 7:35 PM ET #79

    NFL Week 4: ATL Falcons vs WASH Redskins First Half

    Although the lines for the first half are yet to be released, with Atlanta -7 for the game I assume they will look Washington +4. Atlanta offense is a better pert of the Falcons team and since the line was released at -8, dropped down to -7 despite strong public support for the Falcons - we can have several different scenarios of what must have happened to drive the line in opposite direction of the majority of the bets placed:

    1. Big Money was placed on the Skins offsetting the general public money.

    2. The Reverse Line Movement (RLM ) was applied by the oddsmakers to drive some money in Atlanta direction.

    3. The line changed in an opposite direction due to the understanding that the Falcons will lose at least one of the halves eliminating the "winning both halves" prop and somehow salvaging the chalk for the whole game.

    Our first half bet answers all the criteria above.

    Now, for the football buffs - we know that the Falcons aren't as strong as their record indicates since they had hardly any opposing caliber of a QB to face except Eli Manning. And we all know and saw that Eli Manning can lose when he wants and win when he wants. The game the Falcons won - the Giants were up and could easily choked the game and the Falcons - yet they did the opposite.

    This season we can see few teams that the refs are favoring openly and so are the opposing QB's - STL Rams, WASH Redskins and the OAK Raiders on my radar for being those teams.

    Another reason for this bet is the fact that the Falcons never had a both halves effort. It always was either losing the first half and winning the game (the Giants and the Cowboys) or losing the second half and still winning the game (The Texans and the Eagles). So, as a theoretician would go eliminating the possibilities - I'd say that the possibility where the Falcons start strong and also continue to dominate in the second half is very slim as Vegas would have to be stupid to foresee that and still lower the line from 8 to 7. So, this game alone will have few bets for me including the second half bet IN CASE this bet is not won.

    This is a 10 Units Play

    WASH Redskins +4  -110 First Half    1100$

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    NFL Week 4: ATL Falcons vs WASH Redskins First Half

    Although the lines for the first half are yet to be released, with Atlanta -7 for the game I assume they will look Washington +4. Atlanta offense is a better pert of the Falcons team and since the line was released at -8, dropped down to -7 despite strong public support for the Falcons - we can have several different scenarios of what must have happened to drive the line in opposite direction of the majority of the bets placed:

    1. Big Money was placed on the Skins offsetting the general public money.

    2. The Reverse Line Movement (RLM ) was applied by the oddsmakers to drive some money in Atlanta direction.

    3. The line changed in an opposite direction due to the understanding that the Falcons will lose at least one of the halves eliminating the "winning both halves" prop and somehow salvaging the chalk for the whole game.

    Our first half bet answers all the criteria above.

    Now, for the football buffs - we know that the Falcons aren't as strong as their record indicates since they had hardly any opposing caliber of a QB to face except Eli Manning. And we all know and saw that Eli Manning can lose when he wants and win when he wants. The game the Falcons won - the Giants were up and could easily choked the game and the Falcons - yet they did the opposite.

    This season we can see few teams that the refs are favoring openly and so are the opposing QB's - STL Rams, WASH Redskins and the OAK Raiders on my radar for being those teams.

    Another reason for this bet is the fact that the Falcons never had a both halves effort. It always was either losing the first half and winning the game (the Giants and the Cowboys) or losing the second half and still winning the game (The Texans and the Eagles). So, as a theoretician would go eliminating the possibilities - I'd say that the possibility where the Falcons start strong and also continue to dominate in the second half is very slim as Vegas would have to be stupid to foresee that and still lower the line from 8 to 7. So, this game alone will have few bets for me including the second half bet IN CASE this bet is not won.

    This is a 10 Units Play

    WASH Redskins +4  -110 First Half    1100$

     
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2015 - 7:35 PM ET #80

    NFL Week 4: ATL Falcons vs WASH Redskins 

    This is a 5 Units Play

    WASH Redskins +7  -105  525$

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    NFL Week 4: ATL Falcons vs WASH Redskins 

    This is a 5 Units Play

    WASH Redskins +7  -105  525$

     
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2015 - 7:36 PM ET #81

    NFL Week 4: ATL Falcons vs WASH Redskins Props



    This is a 2 Units Play

    Double Result: WASH Redskins - ATL Falcons  +500   200$
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    NFL Week 4: ATL Falcons vs WASH Redskins Props



    This is a 2 Units Play

    Double Result: WASH Redskins - ATL Falcons  +500   200$
     
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2015 - 7:50 PM ET #82

    Great train of thought there.

    I'll be waiting on that first half bet to open up near gametime.BOL
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    Great train of thought there.

    I'll be waiting on that first half bet to open up near gametime.BOL
     
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2015 - 8:08 PM ET #83

    Following both again good luck appreciate your picks 
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    Following both again good luck appreciate your picks 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2015 - 10:12 PM ET #84

    Quote Originally Posted by PointsRator:

    Good Job Phixer! I started a thread name "NFL CASH COW MACHINE". Can you go through and share your own opinion??

    Not a bad at all !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PointsRator:

    Good Job Phixer! I started a thread name "NFL CASH COW MACHINE". Can you go through and share your own opinion??

    Not a bad at all !!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2015 - 10:16 PM ET #85

    NFL Week 5: DET Lions vs ARI Cardinals

    No one expects the Cardinals to lose again. Right? After seeing the impotency of the Lion's coaching staff who didn't even attempt to protest the referees' ignoring the batting the ball out of the inn zone penalty on Seattle and after realizing that the Lions couldn't win a game against practice dolls - after all that who in the right mind would even think betting on Detroit? Who? Anyone with the set of pair big enough to risk money on such weak and boneless team as the Lions? One look at their head coach and you feel like donating the game to them as they do not have to seem the juice to do it. And they don't. That is why they are a straight up 0-4. They could be 2-2, but they are 0-4.

    Fitzgerald is not so great against the Lions traditionally. The Lions are forcing the turn overs. If the Cards can force themselves to lose at home against the Rams - they can very well do that away in Detroit. The Lions have a good defense and a very bad offense. Defense will stay the same while offense will improve.

    This is a 5 Units Play

    DET Lions +3  -120  (bought a half a point but in few days there will be no need to buy as it will go to 3 easily)   600$

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    NFL Week 5: DET Lions vs ARI Cardinals

    No one expects the Cardinals to lose again. Right? After seeing the impotency of the Lion's coaching staff who didn't even attempt to protest the referees' ignoring the batting the ball out of the inn zone penalty on Seattle and after realizing that the Lions couldn't win a game against practice dolls - after all that who in the right mind would even think betting on Detroit? Who? Anyone with the set of pair big enough to risk money on such weak and boneless team as the Lions? One look at their head coach and you feel like donating the game to them as they do not have to seem the juice to do it. And they don't. That is why they are a straight up 0-4. They could be 2-2, but they are 0-4.

    Fitzgerald is not so great against the Lions traditionally. The Lions are forcing the turn overs. If the Cards can force themselves to lose at home against the Rams - they can very well do that away in Detroit. The Lions have a good defense and a very bad offense. Defense will stay the same while offense will improve.

    This is a 5 Units Play

    DET Lions +3  -120  (bought a half a point but in few days there will be no need to buy as it will go to 3 easily)   600$

     
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2015 - 10:16 PM ET #86

    Long time skins fan love it

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    Long time skins fan love it

     
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2015 - 10:25 PM ET #87

    Quote Originally Posted by phixer:

    let us begin with detroit hosting arizona. 
    1. detroit was just robbed back in last plays of the game detroit was robbing from the beginning. 
    2. arizona allowed the broad day light robbery by the rams in arizona.
    we know both of those teams can not be suspected as a straight shooting teams after last week. arizona for sure and detroit in the full knowledge.
    3. arizona is only 2.5 favorites over the clueless offense of the lions after allowing another clueless offense of the rams to score a bunch.
    4. but what about the arizona offense. will fitzgerald be let to play the way he knows with those side catches we saw for a fragment in phoenix last week? or will the lions "dominate" at both ends of the field and than 2.5 point spread seems like a clear invitation to take the cards.

    this is what i want to see here being discussed.

    Phix I think it comes down to coaching adjustment by AZ from last week.  which should allow AZ passing game to open up as long as the can run, I would also assume that Joe Public would be on the Lions as for they think they were robbed last week and Lions looking for their first win. As you say it (We don't get fooled Again)
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    Quote Originally Posted by phixer:

    let us begin with detroit hosting arizona. 
    1. detroit was just robbed back in last plays of the game detroit was robbing from the beginning. 
    2. arizona allowed the broad day light robbery by the rams in arizona.
    we know both of those teams can not be suspected as a straight shooting teams after last week. arizona for sure and detroit in the full knowledge.
    3. arizona is only 2.5 favorites over the clueless offense of the lions after allowing another clueless offense of the rams to score a bunch.
    4. but what about the arizona offense. will fitzgerald be let to play the way he knows with those side catches we saw for a fragment in phoenix last week? or will the lions "dominate" at both ends of the field and than 2.5 point spread seems like a clear invitation to take the cards.

    this is what i want to see here being discussed.

    Phix I think it comes down to coaching adjustment by AZ from last week.  which should allow AZ passing game to open up as long as the can run, I would also assume that Joe Public would be on the Lions as for they think they were robbed last week and Lions looking for their first win. As you say it (We don't get fooled Again)
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by kroep76:


    Phix I think it comes down to coaching adjustment by AZ from last week.  which should allow AZ passing game to open up as long as the can run, I would also assume that Joe Public would be on the Lions as for they think they were robbed last week and Lions looking for their first win. As you say it (We don't get fooled Again)
    joe public is all over the arizona. all over. the line is too fishy and the lions are due. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by kroep76:


    Phix I think it comes down to coaching adjustment by AZ from last week.  which should allow AZ passing game to open up as long as the can run, I would also assume that Joe Public would be on the Lions as for they think they were robbed last week and Lions looking for their first win. As you say it (We don't get fooled Again)
    joe public is all over the arizona. all over. the line is too fishy and the lions are due. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2015 - 12:19 AM ET #90

    I would have to disagree on the lions pick but bol. It seems that the lions want to find every way possible to lose games. And when they should have win a game, they don't want it. It should against the seahawks. They should contest on that last play against the seahawks but they didn't. The lions lost hope on winning games. I believe they throw away this season. Their head coach will be fired soon.
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    I would have to disagree on the lions pick but bol. It seems that the lions want to find every way possible to lose games. And when they should have win a game, they don't want it. It should against the seahawks. They should contest on that last play against the seahawks but they didn't. The lions lost hope on winning games. I believe they throw away this season. Their head coach will be fired soon.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2015 - 12:24 AM ET #91

    P.S their head coach doesn't look like he care too much about winning knowing he will get fired regardless if he win games or not this season forth.
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    P.S their head coach doesn't look like he care too much about winning knowing he will get fired regardless if he win games or not this season forth.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2015 - 12:28 AM ET #92

    Btw love your college picks. Hope you'll have a couple of them this week. Bol
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    Btw love your college picks. Hope you'll have a couple of them this week. Bol
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2015 - 12:45 AM ET #93

    Quote Originally Posted by phixer:

    NFL Week 4: ATL Falcons vs WASH Redskins First Half

    Although the lines for the first half are yet to be released, with Atlanta -7 for the game I assume they will look Washington +4. Atlanta offense is a better pert of the Falcons team and since the line was released at -8, dropped down to -7 despite strong public support for the Falcons - we can have several different scenarios of what must have happened to drive the line in opposite direction of the majority of the bets placed:

    1. Big Money was placed on the Skins offsetting the general public money.

    2. The Reverse Line Movement (RLM ) was applied by the oddsmakers to drive some money in Atlanta direction.

    3. The line changed in an opposite direction due to the understanding that the Falcons will lose at least one of the halves eliminating the "winning both halves" prop and somehow salvaging the chalk for the whole game.

    Our first half bet answers all the criteria above.

    Now, for the football buffs - we know that the Falcons aren't as strong as their record indicates since they had hardly any opposing caliber of a QB to face except Eli Manning. And we all know and saw that Eli Manning can lose when he wants and win when he wants. The game the Falcons won - the Giants were up and could easily choked the game and the Falcons - yet they did the opposite.

    This season we can see few teams that the refs are favoring openly and so are the opposing QB's - STL Rams, WASH Redskins and the OAK Raiders on my radar for being those teams.

    Another reason for this bet is the fact that the Falcons never had a both halves effort. It always was either losing the first half and winning the game (the Giants and the Cowboys) or losing the second half and still winning the game (The Texans and the Eagles). So, as a theoretician would go eliminating the possibilities - I'd say that the possibility where the Falcons start strong and also continue to dominate in the second half is very slim as Vegas would have to be stupid to foresee that and still lower the line from 8 to 7. So, this game alone will have few bets for me including the second half bet IN CASE this bet is not won.

    This is a 10 Units Play

    WASH Redskins +4  -110 First Half    1100$

     Thanks Phix. 10 unit is solid.  Keep it rolling. Missed you NCAA last week. BOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by phixer:

    NFL Week 4: ATL Falcons vs WASH Redskins First Half

    Although the lines for the first half are yet to be released, with Atlanta -7 for the game I assume they will look Washington +4. Atlanta offense is a better pert of the Falcons team and since the line was released at -8, dropped down to -7 despite strong public support for the Falcons - we can have several different scenarios of what must have happened to drive the line in opposite direction of the majority of the bets placed:

    1. Big Money was placed on the Skins offsetting the general public money.

    2. The Reverse Line Movement (RLM ) was applied by the oddsmakers to drive some money in Atlanta direction.

    3. The line changed in an opposite direction due to the understanding that the Falcons will lose at least one of the halves eliminating the "winning both halves" prop and somehow salvaging the chalk for the whole game.

    Our first half bet answers all the criteria above.

    Now, for the football buffs - we know that the Falcons aren't as strong as their record indicates since they had hardly any opposing caliber of a QB to face except Eli Manning. And we all know and saw that Eli Manning can lose when he wants and win when he wants. The game the Falcons won - the Giants were up and could easily choked the game and the Falcons - yet they did the opposite.

    This season we can see few teams that the refs are favoring openly and so are the opposing QB's - STL Rams, WASH Redskins and the OAK Raiders on my radar for being those teams.

    Another reason for this bet is the fact that the Falcons never had a both halves effort. It always was either losing the first half and winning the game (the Giants and the Cowboys) or losing the second half and still winning the game (The Texans and the Eagles). So, as a theoretician would go eliminating the possibilities - I'd say that the possibility where the Falcons start strong and also continue to dominate in the second half is very slim as Vegas would have to be stupid to foresee that and still lower the line from 8 to 7. So, this game alone will have few bets for me including the second half bet IN CASE this bet is not won.

    This is a 10 Units Play

    WASH Redskins +4  -110 First Half    1100$

     Thanks Phix. 10 unit is solid.  Keep it rolling. Missed you NCAA last week. BOL
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2015 - 12:58 AM ET #94

    Lions just have too many issues as an organization in my opinion. Good reason the public should be on Zona. It's the self-destructing Lions.. And for folks who think that just because they were robbed last game is idiotic thinking, if any case they would get blown out to prove the case even more in showing the lions season is over and winning that game wouldn't of changed much. Good luck to people backing lions..?? *shake my head * it's the self-inflicted lions.
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    Lions just have too many issues as an organization in my opinion. Good reason the public should be on Zona. It's the self-destructing Lions.. And for folks who think that just because they were robbed last game is idiotic thinking, if any case they would get blown out to prove the case even more in showing the lions season is over and winning that game wouldn't of changed much. Good luck to people backing lions..?? *shake my head * it's the self-inflicted lions.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2015 - 2:16 AM ET #95

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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2015 - 5:17 AM ET #96

    GL Phixer  - love reading your posts and insight!
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    GL Phixer  - love reading your posts and insight!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2015 - 7:36 AM ET #97

    BOL phixer.

    Why hasn't the Lions defense changed? Walker out for the season, Ngata injured and didn't practice, Ansah, Mathis & Ihedigbo were limited.

    They have a young OL that is playing very poorly and lost Ebron. Their play-calling is garbage and they cannot run to put Stafford into better passing situations. Last season the Cardinals held them to 6 points.

    Why do you believe they will improve on a short week against the Cardinals?

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    BOL phixer.

    Why hasn't the Lions defense changed? Walker out for the season, Ngata injured and didn't practice, Ansah, Mathis & Ihedigbo were limited.

    They have a young OL that is playing very poorly and lost Ebron. Their play-calling is garbage and they cannot run to put Stafford into better passing situations. Last season the Cardinals held them to 6 points.

    Why do you believe they will improve on a short week against the Cardinals?

     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2015 - 7:39 AM ET #98

    BOL phixer.

    Why hasn't the Lions defense changed? Walker out for the season, Ngata injured and didn't practice, Ansah, Mathis & Ihedigbo were limited.

    They have a young OL that is playing very poorly and lost Ebron. Their play-calling is garbage and they cannot run to put Stafford into better passing situations. Last season the Cardinals held them to 6 points.

    Why do you believe they will improve on a short week against the Cardinals?

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    BOL phixer.

    Why hasn't the Lions defense changed? Walker out for the season, Ngata injured and didn't practice, Ansah, Mathis & Ihedigbo were limited.

    They have a young OL that is playing very poorly and lost Ebron. Their play-calling is garbage and they cannot run to put Stafford into better passing situations. Last season the Cardinals held them to 6 points.

    Why do you believe they will improve on a short week against the Cardinals?

     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2015 - 7:47 AM ET #99

    If you think the Lions Defense is solid and we all know Arizona D is good, and since Detroit offense is horrendous, wouldn't the under be a play?
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    If you think the Lions Defense is solid and we all know Arizona D is good, and since Detroit offense is horrendous, wouldn't the under be a play?
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2015 - 8:35 AM ET #100

    precisely. all those questions you raise guys are legit. and yet - the line we get is ari -2.5. doesn't that strike you? are the books handing easy money out on such short line?
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    precisely. all those questions you raise guys are legit. and yet - the line we get is ari -2.5. doesn't that strike you? are the books handing easy money out on such short line?
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