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    kroep76
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2015 - 7:07 PM ET #126

    Quote Originally Posted by phixer:

    joe public is all over the arizona. all over. the line is too fishy and the lions are due. 



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    Quote Originally Posted by phixer:

    joe public is all over the arizona. all over. the line is too fishy and the lions are due. 



     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2015 - 7:44 PM ET #127

    Quote Originally Posted by mrdish33:

    so ATL it`s a full game play and the 1st half go to redskins ?
    hopefully
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrdish33:

    so ATL it`s a full game play and the 1st half go to redskins ?
    hopefully
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2015 - 7:50 PM ET #128

    what do you like tonight sir?
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    what do you like tonight sir?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2015 - 7:57 PM ET #129

    Quote Originally Posted by phixer:

    double result means wash wins first half and atlanta the game. that kind of bet won twice in atlanta's 4 games when they came back in the second half to rally and since it is +500 it is worth taking at least to me

    Wouldn't it make more sense to only bet the 1st half Wash and when the 2nd half line comes out (which would be at a discounted line compared to the full game line) then you can bet Atl 2nd half?  

    I can only see it advantageous for a double bet like that before the game when you are wrong about the first half and end up winning full game.  Which usually means you wouldn't have been able to get the full game spread or better at halftime.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by phixer:

    double result means wash wins first half and atlanta the game. that kind of bet won twice in atlanta's 4 games when they came back in the second half to rally and since it is +500 it is worth taking at least to me

    Wouldn't it make more sense to only bet the 1st half Wash and when the 2nd half line comes out (which would be at a discounted line compared to the full game line) then you can bet Atl 2nd half?  

    I can only see it advantageous for a double bet like that before the game when you are wrong about the first half and end up winning full game.  Which usually means you wouldn't have been able to get the full game spread or better at halftime.  
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2015 - 7:59 PM ET #130

    My first sentence would only make sense assuming your first half bet does win.  
      I've never seen a  2nd half line where the favorite didn't cover and they would give a total of more than the full game spread.
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    My first sentence would only make sense assuming your first half bet does win.  
      I've never seen a  2nd half line where the favorite didn't cover and they would give a total of more than the full game spread.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2015 - 8:03 PM ET #131

    Anything for tonight phixer ?
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    Anything for tonight phixer ?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2015 - 8:03 PM ET #132

    Phil, with regards to reverse line movement, you mentioned within the past few weeks the potential of misinformation of what % money is on what team(and that you have info that is not available to all).  I look at a couple sites for public % and they're generally in the same ballpark, but is that worth believing?   

    Is there anything besides public % that makes NE seem like a bad bet any week?  On one hand they have gained a strong rep, but won 2of 3 by 7 only, on the other hand betting against Brady/grok is tough 
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    Phil, with regards to reverse line movement, you mentioned within the past few weeks the potential of misinformation of what % money is on what team(and that you have info that is not available to all).  I look at a couple sites for public % and they're generally in the same ballpark, but is that worth believing?   

    Is there anything besides public % that makes NE seem like a bad bet any week?  On one hand they have gained a strong rep, but won 2of 3 by 7 only, on the other hand betting against Brady/grok is tough 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2015 - 8:04 PM ET #133

    No.  If Washington is winning or even covers the 1H spread it is likely the pre game line will be much lower, the books will likely set a line that would require atl to not only come back but, go on to cover some type of winning margin.  So phixers theory is spot on, especially when getting 5:1 on your money on an outcome that has proven to work 50% of the time.  In this case we anticipate even slightly better odds of it happening. 

    correct me if I'm wrong phix

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    No.  If Washington is winning or even covers the 1H spread it is likely the pre game line will be much lower, the books will likely set a line that would require atl to not only come back but, go on to cover some type of winning margin.  So phixers theory is spot on, especially when getting 5:1 on your money on an outcome that has proven to work 50% of the time.  In this case we anticipate even slightly better odds of it happening. 

    correct me if I'm wrong phix

     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2015 - 8:04 PM ET #134

    NFL Week 5: TNF  HOU Texans vs IND Colts

    This is a 5 Units Play

    IND Colts +5  -110  550$

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    NFL Week 5: TNF  HOU Texans vs IND Colts

    This is a 5 Units Play

    IND Colts +5  -110  550$

     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2015 - 8:06 PM ET #135

    thxx!!!
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    thxx!!!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2015 - 8:06 PM ET #136

    NFL Week 5: TNF  HOU Texans vs IND Colts Totals

    This is a 5 Units Play

    Over 40.5  -110  550$

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    NFL Week 5: TNF  HOU Texans vs IND Colts Totals

    This is a 5 Units Play

    Over 40.5  -110  550$

     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2015 - 8:08 PM ET #137

    Detroit +2.5 is so contrarian that it just might work...
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    Detroit +2.5 is so contrarian that it just might work...
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2015 - 8:09 PM ET #138

    got sane k cuz. riding witdaold manand his weapons over an inexperienced klown wi limited playing time
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    got sane k cuz. riding witdaold manand his weapons over an inexperienced klown wi limited playing time
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2015 - 8:11 PM ET #139

    Hey Phix, i'm on the same boat as you tonight. I was siding with hou but from my sources some sharp money came in on Ind last and you know we must follow the sharp money.  I was wondering what your insights were ?
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    Hey Phix, i'm on the same boat as you tonight. I was siding with hou but from my sources some sharp money came in on Ind last and you know we must follow the sharp money.  I was wondering what your insights were ?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2015 - 8:15 PM ET #140

    Quote Originally Posted by tjohnsont:


    Wouldn't it make more sense to only bet the 1st half Wash and when the 2nd half line comes out (which would be at a discounted line compared to the full game line) then you can bet Atl 2nd half?  

    I can only see it advantageous for a double bet like that before the game when you are wrong about the first half and end up winning full game.  Which usually means you wouldn't have been able to get the full game spread or better at halftime.  
    in case my main bet wins and the skins will win the first half - the line for the second most probably will include points in favor of the falcons. so, after investing 200$ i actually bought myself the right to bet the skins for a second half comfortably 660$ so in any case  come out the winner. if the skins win i 600 minus 200 invested in the double result = +400 and if the falcons win - i get 1000-660=340. and incase bthye skins win by a td the first half then the line will be the falcons -3.5 for the second and i might even get all the chicks in. but of course it is all conditional to what i will see a the first half
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    Quote Originally Posted by tjohnsont:


    Wouldn't it make more sense to only bet the 1st half Wash and when the 2nd half line comes out (which would be at a discounted line compared to the full game line) then you can bet Atl 2nd half?  

    I can only see it advantageous for a double bet like that before the game when you are wrong about the first half and end up winning full game.  Which usually means you wouldn't have been able to get the full game spread or better at halftime.  
    in case my main bet wins and the skins will win the first half - the line for the second most probably will include points in favor of the falcons. so, after investing 200$ i actually bought myself the right to bet the skins for a second half comfortably 660$ so in any case  come out the winner. if the skins win i 600 minus 200 invested in the double result = +400 and if the falcons win - i get 1000-660=340. and incase bthye skins win by a td the first half then the line will be the falcons -3.5 for the second and i might even get all the chicks in. but of course it is all conditional to what i will see a the first half
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2015 - 8:17 PM ET #141

    Quote Originally Posted by Cappincrunch77:

    No.  If Washington is winning or even covers the 1H spread it is likely the pre game line will be much lower, the books will likely set a line that would require atl to not only come back but, go on to cover some type of winning margin.  So phixers theory is spot on, especially when getting 5:1 on your money on an outcome that has proven to work 50% of the time.  In this case we anticipate even slightly better odds of it happening. 

    correct me if I'm wrong phix

    spot on
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cappincrunch77:

    No.  If Washington is winning or even covers the 1H spread it is likely the pre game line will be much lower, the books will likely set a line that would require atl to not only come back but, go on to cover some type of winning margin.  So phixers theory is spot on, especially when getting 5:1 on your money on an outcome that has proven to work 50% of the time.  In this case we anticipate even slightly better odds of it happening. 

    correct me if I'm wrong phix

    spot on
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2015 - 8:19 PM ET #142

     with you Phixer colts +4 for me
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     with you Phixer colts +4 for me
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2015 - 8:24 PM ET #143

    Quote Originally Posted by Cappincrunch77:

    No.  If Washington is winning or even covers the 1H spread it is likely the pre game line will be much lower, the books will likely set a line that would require atl to not only come back but, go on to cover some type of winning margin.  So phixers theory is spot on, especially when getting 5:1 on your money on an outcome that has proven to work 50% of the time.  In this case we anticipate even slightly better odds of it happening. 

    correct me if I'm wrong phix


    That's not correct but I understand what you are saying. 

    The 2nd half line will usually always be a discounted line compared to the full game spread if the favorite is down.

    For example if Atlanta was down 3 at the half this week the half time spread would be lets say -4 to -6 Atlanta.   That means Atlanta only needs to win by a fg rather than a TD if you took the full game bet.  Many bettors would rebet their full game bet so now they have full game -7 and full game -3 from the halftime bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cappincrunch77:

    No.  If Washington is winning or even covers the 1H spread it is likely the pre game line will be much lower, the books will likely set a line that would require atl to not only come back but, go on to cover some type of winning margin.  So phixers theory is spot on, especially when getting 5:1 on your money on an outcome that has proven to work 50% of the time.  In this case we anticipate even slightly better odds of it happening. 

    correct me if I'm wrong phix


    That's not correct but I understand what you are saying. 

    The 2nd half line will usually always be a discounted line compared to the full game spread if the favorite is down.

    For example if Atlanta was down 3 at the half this week the half time spread would be lets say -4 to -6 Atlanta.   That means Atlanta only needs to win by a fg rather than a TD if you took the full game bet.  Many bettors would rebet their full game bet so now they have full game -7 and full game -3 from the halftime bet.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2015 - 8:29 PM ET #144

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    I got a life buster  I'll have you know I drive a new 2015 Corvette and have a new custom made 2016 Corvette at the factory in Detroit being made just for me but the most impressive thing about me is my I have a Blond,Hott Hi-Maintenance Girlfriend
    who caters me to my every whim....Wadda you have buddy?
    they build corvettes in Bowling Green ,KY. just sayin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper_Dan:


    I got a life buster  I'll have you know I drive a new 2015 Corvette and have a new custom made 2016 Corvette at the factory in Detroit being made just for me but the most impressive thing about me is my I have a Blond,Hott Hi-Maintenance Girlfriend
    who caters me to my every whim....Wadda you have buddy?
    they build corvettes in Bowling Green ,KY. just sayin
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2015 - 8:30 PM ET #145

    Quote Originally Posted by phixer:

    spot on

     

    ... So I understand EV and the big picture on our double outcome BUT... I took IND+5 and OVER 41 in a parlay???

    "but how can a guy who knows what hes doing make such a foolish bet" you ask?

    -demons- lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by phixer:

    spot on

     

    ... So I understand EV and the big picture on our double outcome BUT... I took IND+5 and OVER 41 in a parlay???

    "but how can a guy who knows what hes doing make such a foolish bet" you ask?

    -demons- lol

     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2015 - 8:39 PM ET #146

    FYI Roddy White no happy about his touches per some reports met with Coach Quinn this week trouble in ATL?

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    FYI Roddy White no happy about his touches per some reports met with Coach Quinn this week trouble in ATL?

     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2015 - 8:42 PM ET #147

    That was an odd penalty overturn they didn't announce to the stadium.  
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    That was an odd penalty overturn they didn't announce to the stadium.  
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2015 - 9:56 PM ET #148

    what a pass
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    what a pass
     
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    Posted: Oct. 8, 2015 - 10:25 PM ET #149

    so far so good
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