People that thinks there's no fixing in sports should stop gambling
the over of GB/NYG was the right play unfortunately it didn't cash. mopinkie says the right play only cashes about 70% of the time. just like in poker, pocket aces can still lose to pocket deuces approx 20% of the time. or are those hands fixed?
the over of GB/NYG was the right play unfortunately it didn't cash. mopinkie says the right play only cashes about 70% of the time. just like in poker, pocket aces can still lose to pocket deuces approx 20% of the time. or are those hands fixed?
Being a sports bettor for over 25 years I've seen about all that you can possibly imagine in the NFL. Here is my point I would like to make. The lines come out almost a week before the game. Players, coaches,owners, officials, bettors all know the opening lines. Now as a team going to practice monday morning you are looking at the odds that are set for you for the week. Motivation, maybe, if you are KC and Denver is coming to town as was yesterday. KC looking at the line at -9 1/2 and saying to themselves that we are better than that? Now if this was a playoff game would the score be the same? I don't think so. I have always argued the point that lines should be released the morning of the game. The less time people have to contemplate the game means the less time there is to manipulate the game. Could you imagine if they released the lines on the NBA a week ahead. Holy smokes people would make a killing. So the more time you have to think about a NFL game means the more time there is to manipulate the outcome of the game. Just my 2 cents worth from someone who has been at this for 25 years.
this is an excellent point
also , keep in mind, dont u think nbc loves how this game played out? if u werent a bettor and a casual observer or fan , u would likely tune out after gbay went down meekly on their first drive of the 2nd half down 3 touchdowns. but a bettor is very much interested all the way till the bitter end. oh how painful for over bettors seeing graham harrell in there on the last drive hand the ball off over and over.
Being a sports bettor for over 25 years I've seen about all that you can possibly imagine in the NFL. Here is my point I would like to make. The lines come out almost a week before the game. Players, coaches,owners, officials, bettors all know the opening lines. Now as a team going to practice monday morning you are looking at the odds that are set for you for the week. Motivation, maybe, if you are KC and Denver is coming to town as was yesterday. KC looking at the line at -9 1/2 and saying to themselves that we are better than that? Now if this was a playoff game would the score be the same? I don't think so. I have always argued the point that lines should be released the morning of the game. The less time people have to contemplate the game means the less time there is to manipulate the game. Could you imagine if they released the lines on the NBA a week ahead. Holy smokes people would make a killing. So the more time you have to think about a NFL game means the more time there is to manipulate the outcome of the game. Just my 2 cents worth from someone who has been at this for 25 years.
this is an excellent point
also , keep in mind, dont u think nbc loves how this game played out? if u werent a bettor and a casual observer or fan , u would likely tune out after gbay went down meekly on their first drive of the 2nd half down 3 touchdowns. but a bettor is very much interested all the way till the bitter end. oh how painful for over bettors seeing graham harrell in there on the last drive hand the ball off over and over.
clubtnt
so you are saying that you win 70% of the time? Can you prove it? If you can then I will tail you from now on![]()
Just kidding you will never win a cent in your life
clubtnt
so you are saying that you win 70% of the time? Can you prove it? If you can then I will tail you from now on![]()
Just kidding you will never win a cent in your life
Being a sports bettor for over 25 years I've seen about all that you can possibly imagine in the NFL. Here is my point I would like to make. The lines come out almost a week before the game. Players, coaches,owners, officials, bettors all know the opening lines. Now as a team going to practice monday morning you are looking at the odds that are set for you for the week. Motivation, maybe, if you are KC and Denver is coming to town as was yesterday. KC looking at the line at -9 1/2 and saying to themselves that we are better than that? Now if this was a playoff game would the score be the same? I don't think so. I have always argued the point that lines should be released the morning of the game. The less time people have to contemplate the game means the less time there is to manipulate the game. Could you imagine if they released the lines on the NBA a week ahead. Holy smokes people would make a killing. So the more time you have to think about a NFL game means the more time there is to manipulate the outcome of the game. Just my 2 cents worth from someone who has been at this for 25 years.
manipulated, no. motivated, yes. a team like the chiefs that sees they're double-digit dogs at home might be more motivated, and the broncos might be less motivated expecting an easy victory.
if games are fixed how far and deep does it go? why would multi-millionaire coaches and players be involved in fixes? why would multi-billionaire owners be involved in fixes? and if they are which casinos would take their action because they sure aren't betting $10K? if the casinos are behind the fixes, think of the blackmail liability that the coaches/players are subject to.
Being a sports bettor for over 25 years I've seen about all that you can possibly imagine in the NFL. Here is my point I would like to make. The lines come out almost a week before the game. Players, coaches,owners, officials, bettors all know the opening lines. Now as a team going to practice monday morning you are looking at the odds that are set for you for the week. Motivation, maybe, if you are KC and Denver is coming to town as was yesterday. KC looking at the line at -9 1/2 and saying to themselves that we are better than that? Now if this was a playoff game would the score be the same? I don't think so. I have always argued the point that lines should be released the morning of the game. The less time people have to contemplate the game means the less time there is to manipulate the game. Could you imagine if they released the lines on the NBA a week ahead. Holy smokes people would make a killing. So the more time you have to think about a NFL game means the more time there is to manipulate the outcome of the game. Just my 2 cents worth from someone who has been at this for 25 years.
manipulated, no. motivated, yes. a team like the chiefs that sees they're double-digit dogs at home might be more motivated, and the broncos might be less motivated expecting an easy victory.
if games are fixed how far and deep does it go? why would multi-millionaire coaches and players be involved in fixes? why would multi-billionaire owners be involved in fixes? and if they are which casinos would take their action because they sure aren't betting $10K? if the casinos are behind the fixes, think of the blackmail liability that the coaches/players are subject to.
clubtnt
so you are saying that you win 70% of the time? Can you prove it? If you can then I will tail you from now on![]()
Just kidding you will never win a cent in your life
my did not understand my point bud: you can be on the right side of a bet and only cash ~70% of the time.
clubtnt
so you are saying that you win 70% of the time? Can you prove it? If you can then I will tail you from now on![]()
Just kidding you will never win a cent in your life
my did not understand my point bud: you can be on the right side of a bet and only cash ~70% of the time.
Yep, im the idiot. . . .
Thats good CalifDreamin, Admitting what an idiot you are is the first step in trying to fix it, unfortunately for you.
YOU CANT FIX STUPID
Yep, im the idiot. . . .
Thats good CalifDreamin, Admitting what an idiot you are is the first step in trying to fix it, unfortunately for you.
YOU CANT FIX STUPID
manipulated, no. motivated, yes. a team like the chiefs that sees they're double-digit dogs at home might be more motivated, and the broncos might be less motivated expecting an easy victory.
if games are fixed how far and deep does it go? why would multi-millionaire coaches and players be involved in fixes? why would multi-billionaire owners be involved in fixes? and if they are which casinos would take their action because they sure aren't betting $10K? if the casinos are behind the fixes, think of the blackmail liability that the coaches/players are subject to.
what blackmail liability? you think some senate investigation commitee will question a coach and offensive coordinator on why they run a draw play up the middle on 3rd and 10 when they are losing and running out of time
manipulated, no. motivated, yes. a team like the chiefs that sees they're double-digit dogs at home might be more motivated, and the broncos might be less motivated expecting an easy victory.
if games are fixed how far and deep does it go? why would multi-millionaire coaches and players be involved in fixes? why would multi-billionaire owners be involved in fixes? and if they are which casinos would take their action because they sure aren't betting $10K? if the casinos are behind the fixes, think of the blackmail liability that the coaches/players are subject to.
what blackmail liability? you think some senate investigation commitee will question a coach and offensive coordinator on why they run a draw play up the middle on 3rd and 10 when they are losing and running out of time
the subject of this thread made me
the over of GB/NYG was the right play unfortunately it didn't cash. mopinkie says the right play only cashes about 70% of the time. just like in poker, pocket aces can still lose to pocket deuces approx 20% of the time. or are those hands fixed?
No you're not!! Then you just bet against what you think is fixed. It is still a gamble. Which is what the whole thing is is gambling. Look at it however you want. Bet against a team or bet against what you think vegas will fix. Still gambling!!!
the subject of this thread made me
the over of GB/NYG was the right play unfortunately it didn't cash. mopinkie says the right play only cashes about 70% of the time. just like in poker, pocket aces can still lose to pocket deuces approx 20% of the time. or are those hands fixed?
No you're not!! Then you just bet against what you think is fixed. It is still a gamble. Which is what the whole thing is is gambling. Look at it however you want. Bet against a team or bet against what you think vegas will fix. Still gambling!!!
No you're not!! Then you just bet against what you think is fixed. It is still a gamble. Which is what the whole thing is is gambling. Look at it however you want. Bet against a team or bet against what you think vegas will fix. Still gambling!!!
so instead of betting on statistical, situational, and emotional edges we should bet on fixed edges, not knowing which way the fix is?
No you're not!! Then you just bet against what you think is fixed. It is still a gamble. Which is what the whole thing is is gambling. Look at it however you want. Bet against a team or bet against what you think vegas will fix. Still gambling!!!
so instead of betting on statistical, situational, and emotional edges we should bet on fixed edges, not knowing which way the fix is?
its not just about the direct financial ramifcations, its also to make the product as INTERESTING as possible to as many people concerned
So explain to me how the hell are they going to make the Phi Car game interesting for the viewers to watch tonight. Monday night shitfest, but I'll bet you the officials have you sitting in your seat right to the very end.
its not just about the direct financial ramifcations, its also to make the product as INTERESTING as possible to as many people concerned
So explain to me how the hell are they going to make the Phi Car game interesting for the viewers to watch tonight. Monday night shitfest, but I'll bet you the officials have you sitting in your seat right to the very end.
its not just about the direct financial ramifcations, its also to make the product as INTERESTING as possible to as many people concerned
the 38-10 drubbing that the packers took was very INTERESTING!
its not just about the direct financial ramifcations, its also to make the product as INTERESTING as possible to as many people concerned
the 38-10 drubbing that the packers took was very INTERESTING!
so instead of betting on statistical, situational, and emotional edges we should bet on fixed edges, not knowing which way the fix is?
However you want to look at it. Bet statistically if that is your thinking of gambling.
Bet against a vegas fix it that is your thinking.
Either way it up to the person betting. Who are you to tell someone else that their thought is wrong. It is up to each individual to think the way they want. That's my point. Each way of thinking is a gamble to the individual.
so instead of betting on statistical, situational, and emotional edges we should bet on fixed edges, not knowing which way the fix is?
However you want to look at it. Bet statistically if that is your thinking of gambling.
Bet against a vegas fix it that is your thinking.
Either way it up to the person betting. Who are you to tell someone else that their thought is wrong. It is up to each individual to think the way they want. That's my point. Each way of thinking is a gamble to the individual.
it was if u were playing the total
so the thousands of fans in the stadium and millions at home were playing the total? ".... as INTERESTING as possible to as many people concerned"
it was if u were playing the total
so the thousands of fans in the stadium and millions at home were playing the total? ".... as INTERESTING as possible to as many people concerned"
so the thousands of fans in the stadium and millions at home were playing the total? ".... as INTERESTING as possible to as many people concerned"
comeon man, its like pulling teeth here, im not saying the whole game, im talking about the endgame.
the outcome is obviously not in doubt, and the only people that would be truly interested till the bitter end would be those that were playing the total..
if there were not fishy things happening during the endgame, then it wouldnt be as interesting for the viewer to follow. why is this so hard to comprehend.
oh this is brutal, like talking to animals
so the thousands of fans in the stadium and millions at home were playing the total? ".... as INTERESTING as possible to as many people concerned"
comeon man, its like pulling teeth here, im not saying the whole game, im talking about the endgame.
the outcome is obviously not in doubt, and the only people that would be truly interested till the bitter end would be those that were playing the total..
if there were not fishy things happening during the endgame, then it wouldnt be as interesting for the viewer to follow. why is this so hard to comprehend.
oh this is brutal, like talking to animals
Another tip that I like to share is bet against the team who just won big on prime time. So I would take the Skins next MNF. People will remember how good the Giants were and blindly bet on them and bets will be one sided thus forcing "the fix"
Times and times again you see a team blow out another team by 30-40 points and the next week that team can't even put up 10 points.
Another tip that I like to share is bet against the team who just won big on prime time. So I would take the Skins next MNF. People will remember how good the Giants were and blindly bet on them and bets will be one sided thus forcing "the fix"
Times and times again you see a team blow out another team by 30-40 points and the next week that team can't even put up 10 points.
People are not talking about those blow-out games. Talking about those close games. Actual incident, team "A" was up 4 and favoured by 3. With 6 seconds left, they were getting ready to punt. They had 2 options, either punt the ball or the punter could run around and fall down to end the game. They called a timeout and when play resume, the punter took the snap from the 50 yard line and ran all the way back to his endzone to give the other team a safety and ended the game. So, they ended up winning by 2 when favoured by 3. Ask yourself, why the hell did he did that for? Just ask yourself that.
People are not talking about those blow-out games. Talking about those close games. Actual incident, team "A" was up 4 and favoured by 3. With 6 seconds left, they were getting ready to punt. They had 2 options, either punt the ball or the punter could run around and fall down to end the game. They called a timeout and when play resume, the punter took the snap from the 50 yard line and ran all the way back to his endzone to give the other team a safety and ended the game. So, they ended up winning by 2 when favoured by 3. Ask yourself, why the hell did he did that for? Just ask yourself that.
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