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    People that thinks there's no fixing in sports should stop gambling

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    casinoroyal
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2012 - 12:49 AM ET #251

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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2012 - 1:52 AM ET #252

    TNF, I think the line is off, it should be pick instead of Atlanta -3.5. I think Vegas wants New Orlean money, therefore I am taking Atlanta. The Saints will not make the play off and the Saints already made a ton of money for Vegas so far this year and will continue to do so, because ESPN and others kept saying New Orlean is making a run for the playoff, and people will continue to bet on them.
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    TNF, I think the line is off, it should be pick instead of Atlanta -3.5. I think Vegas wants New Orlean money, therefore I am taking Atlanta. The Saints will not make the play off and the Saints already made a ton of money for Vegas so far this year and will continue to do so, because ESPN and others kept saying New Orlean is making a run for the playoff, and people will continue to bet on them.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2012 - 2:02 AM ET #253

    Some funny stuff, Brandon Marshall just said some players are taking Viagra to gain an edge. I think he meant by gain an inch
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    Some funny stuff, Brandon Marshall just said some players are taking Viagra to gain an edge. I think he meant by gain an inch
     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2012 - 2:31 AM ET #254

    Casinoroyal you believe anything. I can tell you are one of those idiots who believes in any conspiracy because you have no meaning to your life. If you were intelligent you would come to the realization that if all these games were rigged, everyone would know. Even the people who dont gamble.
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    Casinoroyal you believe anything. I can tell you are one of those idiots who believes in any conspiracy because you have no meaning to your life. If you were intelligent you would come to the realization that if all these games were rigged, everyone would know. Even the people who dont gamble.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2012 - 2:47 AM ET #255

    Casinoroyal
    Greta read and points. I'm firm believer in the game within game, it's been played for years and they keep changing it!  I mean, it's like trying to play poker when the table knows your cards and deck is stacked against you! 
    Now that being said, not all games are but the handful that should be spotted avoided and or played! That's the hard part! I knew that 52 over was a sucker pigeon bet! I was sitting at south point casino watch the end of the San Diego fix game and all the pigeons were yapping about how it would it 70 and gbay would win! Lmfao
    For those doubters or skeptics, oh well stay in the cave! The ones that want prof go to the fix is in and watch the clip on skins home game vs tbay 2 years ago, after seeing that tell me something isn't rotten in Denmark!
    Good luck all
    Casino sent you a friend request, let's chat offline more on this topic
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    Casinoroyal
    Greta read and points. I'm firm believer in the game within game, it's been played for years and they keep changing it!  I mean, it's like trying to play poker when the table knows your cards and deck is stacked against you! 
    Now that being said, not all games are but the handful that should be spotted avoided and or played! That's the hard part! I knew that 52 over was a sucker pigeon bet! I was sitting at south point casino watch the end of the San Diego fix game and all the pigeons were yapping about how it would it 70 and gbay would win! Lmfao
    For those doubters or skeptics, oh well stay in the cave! The ones that want prof go to the fix is in and watch the clip on skins home game vs tbay 2 years ago, after seeing that tell me something isn't rotten in Denmark!
    Good luck all
    Casino sent you a friend request, let's chat offline more on this topic
     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2012 - 8:23 AM ET #256

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    EastOakland stay in your cave man!

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    EastOakland stay in your cave man!

     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2012 - 2:20 PM ET #257

    [Quote: Originally Posted by casinoroyal]

    YOmama 1964

    What's your role in all this? You are Roger Godell's nice? Boyfriend? Lover? or are you related to all the NFL owners or what else? Why don't you care more about your sports hocky or go ice skating or something? Why are you so upset? Did I step on your tail or something? Or you are just mad because I have been ignoring you. Anyway, the reason this tread won't die is because you kept bringing it back up. The more that you bring it back up the more people read about it and that's not your agenda.

    tks  mr.jerry lewis i am  sure its  you  !!!!!,ok  mr. light  tell us  the  next game will  be  fix  !!!!!!!!!!  did  you  won your  last bingo game  with happy  gilmore  and mickey mousse  ?

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by casinoroyal]

    YOmama 1964

    What's your role in all this? You are Roger Godell's nice? Boyfriend? Lover? or are you related to all the NFL owners or what else? Why don't you care more about your sports hocky or go ice skating or something? Why are you so upset? Did I step on your tail or something? Or you are just mad because I have been ignoring you. Anyway, the reason this tread won't die is because you kept bringing it back up. The more that you bring it back up the more people read about it and that's not your agenda.

    tks  mr.jerry lewis i am  sure its  you  !!!!!,ok  mr. light  tell us  the  next game will  be  fix  !!!!!!!!!!  did  you  won your  last bingo game  with happy  gilmore  and mickey mousse  ?

     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2012 - 3:06 PM ET #258

    Quote Originally Posted by FixedNoDoubt:

    no one will ever know the answer to who ARE involved.  However, whoever are involved are sure to have extra incentive in their pockets.  Money silence all evidences!

    As I say, it is complicated.  Take sample last night Giants vs GB.  Public money were heavy on GB and OVER.

    all final wager entered into the system and the risk calculated as followed:

    if single bet GB win payout = $500 mil

    if single Giants win payout = $200 mil

    if single Over win payout = $300 mil

    if single Under win payout = $100 mil

    if parlay GB+Over win payout = $400 mil

    if parlay GB+Under win payout = $300 mil

    if parlay Giants + Over win payout= $800 mil

    if parlay Giant + Under win payout = $150 mil

    .....From here the system can instinctly calculate the lowest risk payout and the outcome will come into play.  Therefore, sometime you see 1 public win and 1 loss depending the lowest payout of all combined risks in their system.

     

     

    Can you run these numbers for tonite's Denver at Oak game and post them? 

    Thx

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    Quote Originally Posted by FixedNoDoubt:

    no one will ever know the answer to who ARE involved.  However, whoever are involved are sure to have extra incentive in their pockets.  Money silence all evidences!

    As I say, it is complicated.  Take sample last night Giants vs GB.  Public money were heavy on GB and OVER.

    all final wager entered into the system and the risk calculated as followed:

    if single bet GB win payout = $500 mil

    if single Giants win payout = $200 mil

    if single Over win payout = $300 mil

    if single Under win payout = $100 mil

    if parlay GB+Over win payout = $400 mil

    if parlay GB+Under win payout = $300 mil

    if parlay Giants + Over win payout= $800 mil

    if parlay Giant + Under win payout = $150 mil

    .....From here the system can instinctly calculate the lowest risk payout and the outcome will come into play.  Therefore, sometime you see 1 public win and 1 loss depending the lowest payout of all combined risks in their system.

     

     

    Can you run these numbers for tonite's Denver at Oak game and post them? 

    Thx

     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2012 - 4:01 PM ET #259

    I agree  that  some  nfl  games  are  fixed  every  week. 
    The  most  crooked  team  and  player  is  the  S.D. CHARGERS
    and  Philip Rivers. I  personally believe  that  he  is  throwing
    games. Never  seen a  QB  go  downhill  so  quick  in  the  past  
    two  years  like  him. 45 TURNOVERS IN  THE  PAST 2 SEASONS!
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    I agree  that  some  nfl  games  are  fixed  every  week. 
    The  most  crooked  team  and  player  is  the  S.D. CHARGERS
    and  Philip Rivers. I  personally believe  that  he  is  throwing
    games. Never  seen a  QB  go  downhill  so  quick  in  the  past  
    two  years  like  him. 45 TURNOVERS IN  THE  PAST 2 SEASONS!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 6, 2012 - 4:45 PM ET #260

    LOL! Casino with nothing but black stars and he knows the system! This guy should be a mulit millionaire by now betting on all these fixed games
    Histrionic personality disorder. It's sad
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    LOL! Casino with nothing but black stars and he knows the system! This guy should be a mulit millionaire by now betting on all these fixed games
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2012 - 5:02 PM ET #261

    Quote Originally Posted by wmi799:

    LOL! Casino with nothing but black stars and he knows the system! This guy should be a mulit millionaire by now betting on all these fixed games

    HES JUST VENTING. . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by wmi799:

    LOL! Casino with nothing but black stars and he knows the system! This guy should be a mulit millionaire by now betting on all these fixed games

    HES JUST VENTING. . .

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2012 - 5:44 PM ET #262

    Quote Originally Posted by sdsufred7:

    I agree  that  some  nfl  games  are  fixed  every  week. 
    The  most  crooked  team  and  player  is  the  S.D. CHARGERS
    and  Philip Rivers. I  personally believe  that  he  is  throwing
    games. Never  seen a  QB  go  downhill  so  quick  in  the  past  
    two  years  like  him. 45 TURNOVERS IN  THE  PAST 2 SEASONS!
    Reply
    Quote Originally Posted by sdsufred7:

    I agree  that  some  nfl  games  are  fixed  every  week. 
    The  most  crooked  team  and  player  is  the  S.D. CHARGERS
    and  Philip Rivers. I  personally believe  that  he  is  throwing
    games. Never  seen a  QB  go  downhill  so  quick  in  the  past  
    two  years  like  him. 45 TURNOVERS IN  THE  PAST 2 SEASONS!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2012 - 8:16 PM ET #263

    Quote Originally Posted by Mick960:

    for additional watch on subject
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKg5r4jfiGw

    #6  

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick960:

    for additional watch on subject
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKg5r4jfiGw

    #6  

     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2012 - 8:32 PM ET #264

    Quote Originally Posted by thawv:

    Fixed may be the correct word.  Influence may be the correct word.  Either way, the fact remains, the NFL controls the outcome of certain games.  With proof of that over the years, it can no longer be disputed.


    You have to ask yourself a couple of questions when it come to this topic.  Would you own/run a business without having control over it?  Would you leave the success of your business up to chance?  Obviously, the answer to both questions is, NO!

    In my opinion, if someone thinks the NFL doesn't control the outcome of the games that need to be controlled, they just don't understand things like this topic of discussion.

    This is an entertainment business.  The NFL owes us games played in exchange for money.  They don't owe us the outcome of said games.  They have to do what's best for their business.  If they need a game here and there to go a certain way, it will go that way.  Period.


    you r so right but it took me a little while to figure out that super bowls are paid for and really not earn so is it safe to say that aurtha blank paid a lot of money to be this years champ? just wondering the way the NFL is set up its says for entertainment purposes well if you see certain teams play that  suck and all of sudden they beat a real quality team you say it was there day bull garbage if the league wanted to take the worst team in the league and make it the champ it could because its entertainment 
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    Quote Originally Posted by thawv:

    Fixed may be the correct word.  Influence may be the correct word.  Either way, the fact remains, the NFL controls the outcome of certain games.  With proof of that over the years, it can no longer be disputed.


    You have to ask yourself a couple of questions when it come to this topic.  Would you own/run a business without having control over it?  Would you leave the success of your business up to chance?  Obviously, the answer to both questions is, NO!

    In my opinion, if someone thinks the NFL doesn't control the outcome of the games that need to be controlled, they just don't understand things like this topic of discussion.

    This is an entertainment business.  The NFL owes us games played in exchange for money.  They don't owe us the outcome of said games.  They have to do what's best for their business.  If they need a game here and there to go a certain way, it will go that way.  Period.


    you r so right but it took me a little while to figure out that super bowls are paid for and really not earn so is it safe to say that aurtha blank paid a lot of money to be this years champ? just wondering the way the NFL is set up its says for entertainment purposes well if you see certain teams play that  suck and all of sudden they beat a real quality team you say it was there day bull garbage if the league wanted to take the worst team in the league and make it the champ it could because its entertainment 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2012 - 8:41 PM ET #265

    Quote Originally Posted by Vacaney:

     

    Can you run these numbers for tonite's Denver at Oak game and post them? 

    Thx

    you are so on point these are the things that i look at when betting and you hit it right on the head thanks for sharing and as you can see its hard to win you just have to be lucky as hell because these guys cover all angles and the way to bet them is to be on the right side of the fix
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vacaney:

     

    Can you run these numbers for tonite's Denver at Oak game and post them? 

    Thx

    you are so on point these are the things that i look at when betting and you hit it right on the head thanks for sharing and as you can see its hard to win you just have to be lucky as hell because these guys cover all angles and the way to bet them is to be on the right side of the fix
     
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2012 - 11:26 PM ET #266

    Mick960

    Good read and similar thoughts. The NFL is so good at controling things that if you took all the past games and analyzed them, you will find that over/under is about 50/50. Favor/dog 50/50 Home/away 50/50. I mean how good are these guys season after season. Its also runed very tight, no leaks to the media. Well, like I said before I believe NFL is very tightly controlled (fixed) and people should be aware of it before they bet on a prime time game.

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    Mick960

    Good read and similar thoughts. The NFL is so good at controling things that if you took all the past games and analyzed them, you will find that over/under is about 50/50. Favor/dog 50/50 Home/away 50/50. I mean how good are these guys season after season. Its also runed very tight, no leaks to the media. Well, like I said before I believe NFL is very tightly controlled (fixed) and people should be aware of it before they bet on a prime time game.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2012 - 12:23 AM ET #267

    Some games get fixed (especially in the NBA), and some don't...especially in the 7-game series in playoffs you definitely get series being extended, no question.

    But to say that ALL games are fixed is a bit outlandish.

    It's hard to say that baseball (MLB) is fixed much. 

    NBA for sure
    NFL sometimes but it's not as easy
    MLB not so much (maybe they adjust the strike depending on matchups?  Otherwise it has to be players in on the fix)
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    Some games get fixed (especially in the NBA), and some don't...especially in the 7-game series in playoffs you definitely get series being extended, no question.

    But to say that ALL games are fixed is a bit outlandish.

    It's hard to say that baseball (MLB) is fixed much. 

    NBA for sure
    NFL sometimes but it's not as easy
    MLB not so much (maybe they adjust the strike depending on matchups?  Otherwise it has to be players in on the fix)
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2012 - 2:00 AM ET #268

    Quote Originally Posted by casinoroyal:

    Mick960

    Good read and similar thoughts. The NFL is so good at controling things that if you took all the past games and analyzed them, you will find that over/under is about 50/50. Favor/dog 50/50 Home/away 50/50. I mean how good are these guys season after season. Its also runed very tight, no leaks to the media. Well, like I said before I believe NFL is very tightly controlled (fixed) and people should be aware of it before they bet on a prime time game.


    Lol, you just dont quit on your Fixing Theory. Have you ever taken Probability or Statistic Math? Since the game has 2 possible outcome for each type of betting. (over 50%) and (under 50%) or (favorite 50%) and (dog 50%). By equal probability based on law of average for large number of trials you will approach 50% as the number of trials (games) grow larger. By that, you will have streak of 9-1 or 1-9 (10 trials) or 60-40 or 40-60 (100 trials) but if you go on and on with a lot more trials (games) you should reach 50%. STill LOL on your Theory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by casinoroyal:

    Mick960

    Good read and similar thoughts. The NFL is so good at controling things that if you took all the past games and analyzed them, you will find that over/under is about 50/50. Favor/dog 50/50 Home/away 50/50. I mean how good are these guys season after season. Its also runed very tight, no leaks to the media. Well, like I said before I believe NFL is very tightly controlled (fixed) and people should be aware of it before they bet on a prime time game.


    Lol, you just dont quit on your Fixing Theory. Have you ever taken Probability or Statistic Math? Since the game has 2 possible outcome for each type of betting. (over 50%) and (under 50%) or (favorite 50%) and (dog 50%). By equal probability based on law of average for large number of trials you will approach 50% as the number of trials (games) grow larger. By that, you will have streak of 9-1 or 1-9 (10 trials) or 60-40 or 40-60 (100 trials) but if you go on and on with a lot more trials (games) you should reach 50%. STill LOL on your Theory.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2012 - 11:58 AM ET #269

    Some people just don't get it, I guess they think Vegas was built on honesty also.  lmfao!  
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    Some people just don't get it, I guess they think Vegas was built on honesty also.  lmfao!  
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2012 - 1:35 PM ET #270

    I  think  you  have lost alot of money.
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    I  think  you  have lost alot of money.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2012 - 3:50 PM ET #271

    most people know somewhere deep inside its fixed but dont like to admit it for mutiple reasons, sometimes childhood dreams and rooting for your fav team would be all for nought and many folks wont come to the realization, or others because their fav team is good and they dont want to feel ashamed when rooting for their team or talking trash amongst others who will think they are nuts for even broaching the subject but if those people watched every game every week and followed the spreads and over unders they would then realize how much these lines come into play and clearly affect the outcome more often than not
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    most people know somewhere deep inside its fixed but dont like to admit it for mutiple reasons, sometimes childhood dreams and rooting for your fav team would be all for nought and many folks wont come to the realization, or others because their fav team is good and they dont want to feel ashamed when rooting for their team or talking trash amongst others who will think they are nuts for even broaching the subject but if those people watched every game every week and followed the spreads and over unders they would then realize how much these lines come into play and clearly affect the outcome more often than not
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2012 - 3:52 PM ET #272

    its not abot law of averages when spreads come into play, too often a line is too high or too low and vegas cleasn up, those games dont get counted when all your averages for favs and dogs winning come out at 50/50
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    its not abot law of averages when spreads come into play, too often a line is too high or too low and vegas cleasn up, those games dont get counted when all your averages for favs and dogs winning come out at 50/50
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2012 - 3:55 PM ET #273

    if vegas truely wanted even money on both sides then the spreads would be way different,  linesmakers dont know garbage  when a team wins by 30 and the spread was only three why dont they take heat for it? why wasnt the spread 27.5? if they were that good the spreads would bust more often too
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    if vegas truely wanted even money on both sides then the spreads would be way different,  linesmakers dont know garbage  when a team wins by 30 and the spread was only three why dont they take heat for it? why wasnt the spread 27.5? if they were that good the spreads would bust more often too
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