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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2015 - 6:30 AM ET #1876

    Panthers to win odd 41-1 meaning 100 investment will give u 4100.

    Imagine putting 100 buck on panthers on every game on ml, and with winning roll it over.
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    Imagine putting 100 buck on panthers on every game on ml, and with winning roll it over.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2015 - 7:34 AM ET #1877

    Panthers don't have a shot guys, give it up.
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2015 - 11:10 AM ET #1878

    Not buying Panthers either. 
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2015 - 11:11 AM ET #1879

    Panthers wont win the super bowl, no way thats going to happen. Not saying its impossible for them to cover against the seahawks but winning aint gonna happen. 
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    Panthers wont win the super bowl, no way thats going to happen. Not saying its impossible for them to cover against the seahawks but winning aint gonna happen. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2015 - 11:29 AM ET #1880

    As I have stated, I think Panthers need to play a near perfect game to have a chance to win.  Yes, their D is solid, and maybe under-rated. But this is an experienced and efficient offense, not a 3rd string QB with some rag-tag running backs.  If Palmer, or even Stanton play last week, that games goes a lot differently.  Cards had literally no offense (97 total yards before the last play) and still were in the game.

    Does what happened last week tell us all we need to know, of course not, it was just one game.  But if you trust Cam Newton on the road in this environment, I think you're nuts.  I still haven't made my mind up on the spread, but no way can I play Carolina ML.

    Leans right now.

    Seattle laying
    Seattle-Carolina OVER
    Denver laying


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    As I have stated, I think Panthers need to play a near perfect game to have a chance to win.  Yes, their D is solid, and maybe under-rated. But this is an experienced and efficient offense, not a 3rd string QB with some rag-tag running backs.  If Palmer, or even Stanton play last week, that games goes a lot differently.  Cards had literally no offense (97 total yards before the last play) and still were in the game.

    Does what happened last week tell us all we need to know, of course not, it was just one game.  But if you trust Cam Newton on the road in this environment, I think you're nuts.  I still haven't made my mind up on the spread, but no way can I play Carolina ML.

    Leans right now.

    Seattle laying
    Seattle-Carolina OVER
    Denver laying


     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2015 - 12:03 PM ET #1881

    Why were there posts removed from this thread CT?
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2015 - 1:07 PM ET #1882

    Quote Originally Posted by Asomugha:

    Panthers wont win the super bowl, no way thats going to happen. Not saying its impossible for them to cover against the seahawks but winning aint gonna happen.


    It's impossible
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asomugha:

    Panthers wont win the super bowl, no way thats going to happen. Not saying its impossible for them to cover against the seahawks but winning aint gonna happen.


    It's impossible
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2015 - 2:11 PM ET #1883

    Quote Originally Posted by Vicente_:

    This is a good thread.

    and the beat goes on..
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    This is a good thread.

    and the beat goes on..
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2015 - 2:14 PM ET #1884

    what comments got deleted? 
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2015 - 5:06 PM ET #1885

    Tony Romo's back isn't broken jeeze
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2015 - 1:35 AM ET #1886

    For the record guys,, people have been telling me i make too many plays... This was cut and pasted from my nba threads.... 60% ish nba current,, nfl 65%... Big plays are always higher in percentages... My response as follows

    at 60% or better,,, im not looking to win 6 out of 10... Im looking to win 60000 out of 100000.... I have already dropped some plays simply because i do not have the time to handicap all of these plays... My nfl plays are hitting at a 65% clip simply because i have a whole week to think about those games... with the nba i have one day... As soon as the games end i have to enter all the info on each game into multiple spread sheets,, then keep track of all injuries line movements,, situations,, and public perception... And if i have additional time i look at which plays to upgrade , downgrade or add... Those who know me still all say i play to many games... Ive shrunk this down a bit by rougly 10%,, even a good buddy told me he's never seen anyone play that many games,,, and i said,,  you ever see anyone play that many games and still turn a profit? He said no... everyone is different,,, and every game can be good value if you put in the time to find it... 

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    For the record guys,, people have been telling me i make too many plays... This was cut and pasted from my nba threads.... 60% ish nba current,, nfl 65%... Big plays are always higher in percentages... My response as follows

    at 60% or better,,, im not looking to win 6 out of 10... Im looking to win 60000 out of 100000.... I have already dropped some plays simply because i do not have the time to handicap all of these plays... My nfl plays are hitting at a 65% clip simply because i have a whole week to think about those games... with the nba i have one day... As soon as the games end i have to enter all the info on each game into multiple spread sheets,, then keep track of all injuries line movements,, situations,, and public perception... And if i have additional time i look at which plays to upgrade , downgrade or add... Those who know me still all say i play to many games... Ive shrunk this down a bit by rougly 10%,, even a good buddy told me he's never seen anyone play that many games,,, and i said,,  you ever see anyone play that many games and still turn a profit? He said no... everyone is different,,, and every game can be good value if you put in the time to find it... 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2015 - 1:40 AM ET #1887

    I highly doubt you are over 60% in either.  But whatever.  Let's just move forward.  Stop focusing on the attention and making excuses.

    Let's focus on Saturday...........
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    I highly doubt you are over 60% in either.  But whatever.  Let's just move forward.  Stop focusing on the attention and making excuses.

    Let's focus on Saturday...........
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2015 - 1:40 AM ET #1888

    Quote Originally Posted by HoldingXYZ:

    For the record guys,, people have been telling me i make too many plays... This was cut and pasted from my nba threads.... 60% ish nba current,, nfl 65%... Big plays are always higher in percentages... My response as follows

    at 60% or better,,, im not looking to win 6 out of 10... Im looking to win 60000 out of 100000.... I have already dropped some plays simply because i do not have the time to handicap all of these plays... My nfl plays are hitting at a 65% clip simply because i have a whole week to think about those games... with the nba i have one day... As soon as the games end i have to enter all the info on each game into multiple spread sheets,, then keep track of all injuries line movements,, situations,, and public perception... And if i have additional time i look at which plays to upgrade , downgrade or add... Those who know me still all say i play to many games... Ive shrunk this down a bit by rougly 10%,, even a good buddy told me he's never seen anyone play that many games,,, and i said,,  you ever see anyone play that many games and still turn a profit? He said no... everyone is different,,, and every game can be good value if you put in the time to find it... 

    ignore the people who say you play too much. If you're making money who cares the amount of games.

    You have been making me lots of money lately in NFL, so lets keep it going this weekend

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoldingXYZ:

    For the record guys,, people have been telling me i make too many plays... This was cut and pasted from my nba threads.... 60% ish nba current,, nfl 65%... Big plays are always higher in percentages... My response as follows

    at 60% or better,,, im not looking to win 6 out of 10... Im looking to win 60000 out of 100000.... I have already dropped some plays simply because i do not have the time to handicap all of these plays... My nfl plays are hitting at a 65% clip simply because i have a whole week to think about those games... with the nba i have one day... As soon as the games end i have to enter all the info on each game into multiple spread sheets,, then keep track of all injuries line movements,, situations,, and public perception... And if i have additional time i look at which plays to upgrade , downgrade or add... Those who know me still all say i play to many games... Ive shrunk this down a bit by rougly 10%,, even a good buddy told me he's never seen anyone play that many games,,, and i said,,  you ever see anyone play that many games and still turn a profit? He said no... everyone is different,,, and every game can be good value if you put in the time to find it... 

    ignore the people who say you play too much. If you're making money who cares the amount of games.

    You have been making me lots of money lately in NFL, so lets keep it going this weekend

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2015 - 1:41 AM ET #1889

    There are a few here that i fade or follow,, And in order for me to follow they would have to demonstrate 60% or better... And i dont care what sport it is... because i know i will not lose at 60% or better....  

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    There are a few here that i fade or follow,, And in order for me to follow they would have to demonstrate 60% or better... And i dont care what sport it is... because i know i will not lose at 60% or better....  

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2015 - 1:50 AM ET #1890

    And the same guy ,, "my friend" ended up playing the whole board like me,, why? because he saw my results... He saw me winning at a really high daily rate... 

    Another friend goes to the casino everyday playing table games litterally,, and they have this stupid mentality that they have to leave when they are ahead... This is by far one of the biggest dumsh!t thing i have ever heard... Because the moment they leave and come back,, their odds are exactly the SAME .. So instead of focusing on getting that edge or that little extra bit of info to help you handicap a game,, they focus on the wrong thing... 

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    And the same guy ,, "my friend" ended up playing the whole board like me,, why? because he saw my results... He saw me winning at a really high daily rate... 

    Another friend goes to the casino everyday playing table games litterally,, and they have this stupid mentality that they have to leave when they are ahead... This is by far one of the biggest dumsh!t thing i have ever heard... Because the moment they leave and come back,, their odds are exactly the SAME .. So instead of focusing on getting that edge or that little extra bit of info to help you handicap a game,, they focus on the wrong thing... 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2015 - 1:52 AM ET #1891

    Now dont get me wrong,, i do hedge if im already winning,,, for instance,, if there's 10 games on the board,, and im already in on every game,, the first 4 games if i win most of them,, i may hedge out on the last 6 games,, that's possible... So alot has to do with not only a large sample size and winning the war,,, its also money management,, knowing when to fold and knowing when to press or hold... 
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    Now dont get me wrong,, i do hedge if im already winning,,, for instance,, if there's 10 games on the board,, and im already in on every game,, the first 4 games if i win most of them,, i may hedge out on the last 6 games,, that's possible... So alot has to do with not only a large sample size and winning the war,,, its also money management,, knowing when to fold and knowing when to press or hold... 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2015 - 3:34 AM ET #1892

    Let me preface this by saying that my football picks this year have been average on my good weeks, not been a good year.  So this is not any criticism on the picks themselves.  Just wanted to clarify Mr. Holding's claims of being 65% on NFL games this year, which, anyone would admit, would be quite impressive.

    In this thread (yes, I went back and added them all up) Holding is 117-98-2 ATS on NFL games this season.  Not bad actually.  I'd challenge most covers posters to try and best that.  But it's 54.4%, not 65%.  Change ten of those losses to wins, still only 59%.  Change TWENTY of those losses to wins, still short of 65%. 

    So needless to say, I may have made an error or two (or three) and anyone that follows Holding's plays knows there is a lot of jumping around and many, many, many threads to follow.  So I just chose this one, and 217 games is enough to establish a solid %.  I ignored all teasers, and gave all credit due for the game flips after a play was posted.

    So Holding, congrats on a really decent year.  As I said, my picks struggled and going 54% ATS would have been great.  So well done.

    I hope you don't take this as "hating" at all.  I don't hate, despite what some previous posts might indicate.  I just like to seek truth and integrity, as I know how difficult it is to come out ahead in this stupid gambling world.

    Looking forward to working with EVERYONE to make some $$$$ going forward in the playoffs. 

    BOL......... 
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    Let me preface this by saying that my football picks this year have been average on my good weeks, not been a good year.  So this is not any criticism on the picks themselves.  Just wanted to clarify Mr. Holding's claims of being 65% on NFL games this year, which, anyone would admit, would be quite impressive.

    In this thread (yes, I went back and added them all up) Holding is 117-98-2 ATS on NFL games this season.  Not bad actually.  I'd challenge most covers posters to try and best that.  But it's 54.4%, not 65%.  Change ten of those losses to wins, still only 59%.  Change TWENTY of those losses to wins, still short of 65%. 

    So needless to say, I may have made an error or two (or three) and anyone that follows Holding's plays knows there is a lot of jumping around and many, many, many threads to follow.  So I just chose this one, and 217 games is enough to establish a solid %.  I ignored all teasers, and gave all credit due for the game flips after a play was posted.

    So Holding, congrats on a really decent year.  As I said, my picks struggled and going 54% ATS would have been great.  So well done.

    I hope you don't take this as "hating" at all.  I don't hate, despite what some previous posts might indicate.  I just like to seek truth and integrity, as I know how difficult it is to come out ahead in this stupid gambling world.

    Looking forward to working with EVERYONE to make some $$$$ going forward in the playoffs. 

    BOL......... 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2015 - 3:38 AM ET #1893

    IM hitting 65% on sides,,, totals im 58 -59 percent... I bet almost every side... But not every total... Thanks for you honest remark... For the longest time batman,, i though you were either an admin or just a straight troll... Maybe i was wrong... best of luck to you 
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    IM hitting 65% on sides,,, totals im 58 -59 percent... I bet almost every side... But not every total... Thanks for you honest remark... For the longest time batman,, i though you were either an admin or just a straight troll... Maybe i was wrong... best of luck to you 
     
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    On my poys im hitting 100% ,, small sample size of 5 or so... Now there were some plays where i didnt post... Thats where you may have mis calculated... I try to post as often as i can... Doesnt mean im dis honest,,... It simply means you either trust me or you dont... But if you need real proof of every game i have picked,, i have it all documented and i can send them to you via email... In america,, i've learned a few things,, always save your receipts... And in life i learned a few things growing up,, what comes around goes around,, Lie only if its a good lie,, otherwise it will come back and haunt you... Good things happen to good people,, thats what i try to do... That's all folks


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    On my poys im hitting 100% ,, small sample size of 5 or so... Now there were some plays where i didnt post... Thats where you may have mis calculated... I try to post as often as i can... Doesnt mean im dis honest,,... It simply means you either trust me or you dont... But if you need real proof of every game i have picked,, i have it all documented and i can send them to you via email... In america,, i've learned a few things,, always save your receipts... And in life i learned a few things growing up,, what comes around goes around,, Lie only if its a good lie,, otherwise it will come back and haunt you... Good things happen to good people,, thats what i try to do... That's all folks


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoldingXYZ:

    IM hitting 65% on sides,,, totals im 58 -59 percent... I bet almost every side... But not every total... Thanks for you honest remark... For the longest time batman,, i though you were either an admin or just a straight troll... Maybe i was wrong... best of luck to you 


    No, you got me wrong.  Not a troll, although I'm not above trolling sometimes.  Certainly not an admin or a "book", just a regular guy trying to have some fun picking winners. 

    In your defense, I did not differentiate between totals or side, nor did I take into account "big" bets either.  You played a lot games, so it is what it is.

    I'm beyond done arguing with everyone about WHY stuff happens and really just want to work on figuring out WHAT IS going to happen.


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    IM hitting 65% on sides,,, totals im 58 -59 percent... I bet almost every side... But not every total... Thanks for you honest remark... For the longest time batman,, i though you were either an admin or just a straight troll... Maybe i was wrong... best of luck to you 


    No, you got me wrong.  Not a troll, although I'm not above trolling sometimes.  Certainly not an admin or a "book", just a regular guy trying to have some fun picking winners. 

    In your defense, I did not differentiate between totals or side, nor did I take into account "big" bets either.  You played a lot games, so it is what it is.

    I'm beyond done arguing with everyone about WHY stuff happens and really just want to work on figuring out WHAT IS going to happen.


     
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    2014-2015 CONFERENCE 

    BAL +7     &  BAL 1H
    These wont be big plays for me.. My biggies are on SUNDAY.... 

    WHY? The public will be hammering brady... And i dont see the line budging... Brady is known to be below average in the playoffs unless against rookie quarterbacks... Doesnt mean i dont love brady any less... Now if the line drops to 6 to 6.5  i may consider teasing brady down to a pick or so with another play.... If there's any team that can beat brady,, its the Ravens ,, simply because of FORSETT in this particular spot... I dont see the pats being able to stop this running back,, unless the football gods are against the ravens i like my chances.... Im thinking its one of those games where BRADY pulls a brady in the Second half when he's all worked up and it turns into a hero ball type of game... Good luck all
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    2014-2015 CONFERENCE 

    BAL +7     &  BAL 1H
    These wont be big plays for me.. My biggies are on SUNDAY.... 

    WHY? The public will be hammering brady... And i dont see the line budging... Brady is known to be below average in the playoffs unless against rookie quarterbacks... Doesnt mean i dont love brady any less... Now if the line drops to 6 to 6.5  i may consider teasing brady down to a pick or so with another play.... If there's any team that can beat brady,, its the Ravens ,, simply because of FORSETT in this particular spot... I dont see the pats being able to stop this running back,, unless the football gods are against the ravens i like my chances.... Im thinking its one of those games where BRADY pulls a brady in the Second half when he's all worked up and it turns into a hero ball type of game... Good luck all
     
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    Woops i mean divisional lol
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    Woops i mean divisional lol
     
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    Ravens have the experience to win here, but last time they did they were a different offense.  Pats are tough to figure sometimes.  I just don't like the way the Ravens limped in.  And even last week, Pitt (without Bell) had some chances to make it a game early, but settled for FGs.  Jets seem to be the only team of late to figure Pats out, and I think Brady can beat Ravens.  If anything, I have to roll Pats here, also lean to the over. 

    Brady vs. Manning epic showdown coming!!!  Doesn't mean Pats will cover, but I think at least one of the two do. 

    Pats + Over

    Broncs + Under

    Those are my AFC leans.


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    Ravens have the experience to win here, but last time they did they were a different offense.  Pats are tough to figure sometimes.  I just don't like the way the Ravens limped in.  And even last week, Pitt (without Bell) had some chances to make it a game early, but settled for FGs.  Jets seem to be the only team of late to figure Pats out, and I think Brady can beat Ravens.  If anything, I have to roll Pats here, also lean to the over. 

    Brady vs. Manning epic showdown coming!!!  Doesn't mean Pats will cover, but I think at least one of the two do. 

    Pats + Over

    Broncs + Under

    Those are my AFC leans.


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by VEGAS__WISE_GUY:

    Not to sound to far fetched, but since 9/11 the U.S. has been in a Police State. If you don't know what that means then Google it. As a result, can you see how that tragic event has helped brand certain NFL teams. Remember polic state...


    I hv googled and nothing special wot am I missing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by VEGAS__WISE_GUY:

    Not to sound to far fetched, but since 9/11 the U.S. has been in a Police State. If you don't know what that means then Google it. As a result, can you see how that tragic event has helped brand certain NFL teams. Remember polic state...


    I hv googled and nothing special wot am I missing?
     
     
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    Calling for a offensive showcase here, Flacco has apparently achieved elete branding the coaching is there as are the weapons. The Pats are explosive and most likey the Bowl front runner I'm expecting all the flglits and glamer out of this matchup. NE is going gun for the end zone early and offten we all know what they do to teams off a fast start, Balti will be answering back until late I'll be looking for some good in game action depending on how it shifts out 

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    Calling for a offensive showcase here, Flacco has apparently achieved elete branding the coaching is there as are the weapons. The Pats are explosive and most likey the Bowl front runner I'm expecting all the flglits and glamer out of this matchup. NE is going gun for the end zone early and offten we all know what they do to teams off a fast start, Balti will be answering back until late I'll be looking for some good in game action depending on how it shifts out 

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