For starters I don't like this game, these teams are veritably equal so for NO to be laying 4 on the road offers value to Chicago, thing is I find it hard to determine if it's not legitimate. Both these teams are enigmas with the Bears I know who they are I just can't believe my eyes, the discrepancy between talent and performance is cartoonish how they go from the highest capabilities on paper to incompetence on the feild is just strange while the Saints are a good team but they consistently hit and miss in dramatic ways, lucky for them that's all they had to do to position themselves the opportunity to take the division, but now the pressure is on and they must win its hard to be confident in how they respond. The Bears are having a behind the scenes fallout with the coaching staff voicing disappointment about Jay Cutler to the media which doesn't seem as big of a deal or secrect as the hype around it,however I don't expect Cutlers temperament to be a factor more likey he'll play causally as always. Form this point I could really start over thinking things and get into crazy theory on how these teams are really symbols and how Chicago is an investment hub and that the stock market is coming to the end of one of the longest bull markets in history and rather or not the SAINTS are going to loose this close to the holiday and take the Christmas money with them but forget all that I don't like this game I prefer the total over the sides give me an under in hopes theres some miraculous chance of defense being played and that it blows up the parley action. The only Chicago team I'll be on tonight is UIC over Tennessee Martin in college hoops go Flames !
Under 54
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For starters I don't like this game, these teams are veritably equal so for NO to be laying 4 on the road offers value to Chicago, thing is I find it hard to determine if it's not legitimate. Both these teams are enigmas with the Bears I know who they are I just can't believe my eyes, the discrepancy between talent and performance is cartoonish how they go from the highest capabilities on paper to incompetence on the feild is just strange while the Saints are a good team but they consistently hit and miss in dramatic ways, lucky for them that's all they had to do to position themselves the opportunity to take the division, but now the pressure is on and they must win its hard to be confident in how they respond. The Bears are having a behind the scenes fallout with the coaching staff voicing disappointment about Jay Cutler to the media which doesn't seem as big of a deal or secrect as the hype around it,however I don't expect Cutlers temperament to be a factor more likey he'll play causally as always. Form this point I could really start over thinking things and get into crazy theory on how these teams are really symbols and how Chicago is an investment hub and that the stock market is coming to the end of one of the longest bull markets in history and rather or not the SAINTS are going to loose this close to the holiday and take the Christmas money with them but forget all that I don't like this game I prefer the total over the sides give me an under in hopes theres some miraculous chance of defense being played and that it blows up the parley action. The only Chicago team I'll be on tonight is UIC over Tennessee Martin in college hoops go Flames !
Good hit dusty, had the same side even the 1H under ,, but lost on the degen bears...
week15 and moving forward the lines will be extremely sharp... I practically hit every single teaser last week even if i lost the game,, and all my middles hit... Thats because the lines are that sharp,, and thats when you will find tons and tons of value on TEASERS..
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Good hit dusty, had the same side even the 1H under ,, but lost on the degen bears...
week15 and moving forward the lines will be extremely sharp... I practically hit every single teaser last week even if i lost the game,, and all my middles hit... Thats because the lines are that sharp,, and thats when you will find tons and tons of value on TEASERS..
Dusty that was funny That was a funny comment,, this guy practically spends his whole life trolling in all of my threads... Hes either jealous of this or that... I swear hes either bipolar or works for the books or maybe both..
But i love it... I give him tons of work to do... I will be posting in the nba more and more... The sample size is so much greater... He's gonna have to hire more trolls just to grade my threads
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Dusty that was funny That was a funny comment,, this guy practically spends his whole life trolling in all of my threads... Hes either jealous of this or that... I swear hes either bipolar or works for the books or maybe both..
But i love it... I give him tons of work to do... I will be posting in the nba more and more... The sample size is so much greater... He's gonna have to hire more trolls just to grade my threads
You know I swear the roids must be wearing off on some of these teams or huge line up changes. Is it me or did the niners shrink this year? I know a lot of the hawks got busted but they are a deep team.
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You know I swear the roids must be wearing off on some of these teams or huge line up changes. Is it me or did the niners shrink this year? I know a lot of the hawks got busted but they are a deep team.
Good hit dusty, had the same side even the 1H under ,, but lost on the degen bears...
week15 and moving forward the lines will be extremely sharp... I practically hit every single teaser last week even if i lost the game,, and all my middles hit... Thats because the lines are that sharp,, and thats when you will find tons and tons of value on TEASERS..
Was planning to have a big 20pt teaser for week 17 going take a look see if I can put something together for this wknd they're always fun this time of the season
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Quote Originally Posted by HoldingXYZ:
Good hit dusty, had the same side even the 1H under ,, but lost on the degen bears...
week15 and moving forward the lines will be extremely sharp... I practically hit every single teaser last week even if i lost the game,, and all my middles hit... Thats because the lines are that sharp,, and thats when you will find tons and tons of value on TEASERS..
Was planning to have a big 20pt teaser for week 17 going take a look see if I can put something together for this wknd they're always fun this time of the season
The games are not scripted you idiot. What you fail to realize is the clock is the issue. Notice in NFL games when players go out of bounds the clock does not not stop. Therefore leads and who has leads equals the situation. In college they will keep scoring. In pro teams don't often come back by 2 or 3 TDs in second half because time does not permit it or situation will say hay can't get guy's hurt. 40 seconds 15 minutes think about it. Even Philly slows down if up a lot.
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The games are not scripted you idiot. What you fail to realize is the clock is the issue. Notice in NFL games when players go out of bounds the clock does not not stop. Therefore leads and who has leads equals the situation. In college they will keep scoring. In pro teams don't often come back by 2 or 3 TDs in second half because time does not permit it or situation will say hay can't get guy's hurt. 40 seconds 15 minutes think about it. Even Philly slows down if up a lot.
THAT statement VETO makes absolutely no sense!...And time that you mentioned?....lol...The pro teams could score at will if they were supposed to....Scripted?....No!!!!......CONTROLLED????.....Absolutely!..Of course it's impossible to 'script' a game to detail, BUT, after 35 years of watching this entertainment, and it is ENTERTAINMENT, not a sport, I conclude that ANYTHING is possible with this league...Why?.....Because it is a MULTI BILLION DOLLAR BUSINESS!.....Wake up bud!.....Big money controls everything!....Even the "TIME" that you mentioned------NOW THAT'S RIDICULOUS!
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THAT statement VETO makes absolutely no sense!...And time that you mentioned?....lol...The pro teams could score at will if they were supposed to....Scripted?....No!!!!......CONTROLLED????.....Absolutely!..Of course it's impossible to 'script' a game to detail, BUT, after 35 years of watching this entertainment, and it is ENTERTAINMENT, not a sport, I conclude that ANYTHING is possible with this league...Why?.....Because it is a MULTI BILLION DOLLAR BUSINESS!.....Wake up bud!.....Big money controls everything!....Even the "TIME" that you mentioned------NOW THAT'S RIDICULOUS!
Reminds me of two plays last year in regards to tanking a game...
MIA-PITT LAST year... The receiver stepped out of bounds and they say he didnt... Pitt got screwed last year and so did SF badly...
SEA-SF,, SF was hosting the seahawks,,, the spread was exactly SF-2.5 ,, SF couldve easily won the game and cover the spread,, the receiver had a clear path,, the defender was no where near him,,, and purposely steps out of bounds so that they can win the game with a Field goal and not cover... Now that was rigged... .
I had the seahawks on this one... And SF won by 2 points exactly... Harbaugh is dirty... But i knew SF was a public team and Seahawks was not at the time... But SEA still own the mannings and SF,, WHY? Because those are big market teams... When this team covers,,, expect tons of cash pouring into the books and blood pouring out of the streets.... Simply put,, the public hates the hawks... And that's why they win... You hate richard sherman? Well that's the point,, they know J PUB loves manning... That's how it works... Dont go talking about the clock,, thats just part of the clock work.. The scripted part is when players already know what's going to happen... And no its not always the refs... You have players intentionally holding as well... Players holding back,, players getting called out of the game... Fake injuries ect ect... I record all of this... I have this in a spread sheet...
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Tell him Tank, lol
Reminds me of two plays last year in regards to tanking a game...
MIA-PITT LAST year... The receiver stepped out of bounds and they say he didnt... Pitt got screwed last year and so did SF badly...
SEA-SF,, SF was hosting the seahawks,,, the spread was exactly SF-2.5 ,, SF couldve easily won the game and cover the spread,, the receiver had a clear path,, the defender was no where near him,,, and purposely steps out of bounds so that they can win the game with a Field goal and not cover... Now that was rigged... .
I had the seahawks on this one... And SF won by 2 points exactly... Harbaugh is dirty... But i knew SF was a public team and Seahawks was not at the time... But SEA still own the mannings and SF,, WHY? Because those are big market teams... When this team covers,,, expect tons of cash pouring into the books and blood pouring out of the streets.... Simply put,, the public hates the hawks... And that's why they win... You hate richard sherman? Well that's the point,, they know J PUB loves manning... That's how it works... Dont go talking about the clock,, thats just part of the clock work.. The scripted part is when players already know what's going to happen... And no its not always the refs... You have players intentionally holding as well... Players holding back,, players getting called out of the game... Fake injuries ect ect... I record all of this... I have this in a spread sheet...
Its heels and faces just like in wrasslin, I once upon a time was a huge WWF WCW ECW fan now I wonder if I was just being groomed to become a degen as I got older I would turn from Raw and catch some MNF until I became a fan same concept I remember how wrestlers would go face to heel and back all the angles lol great drama for kids.I guess coaches are the charismatic managers.
Faces
Brady Gronk The Hoodie
Big Ben
JJ Watt Andre Johnson
Luck
Payton
Andy Reid
RG 3 (turning heel)
2014 Cowboys
Chip Kelly
Odell "the catch" Beckham (coming up)
ARodg (without the stash)
R Wilson
Larry Fitzgerald
Heels
Rex Ryan
Vick
Suggs
Money Mainzel Josh Gordan
Desean Jackson
Smoking Jay & 2014 Bears
Cam Hollywood Newton
C. Kaepnernick
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Its heels and faces just like in wrasslin, I once upon a time was a huge WWF WCW ECW fan now I wonder if I was just being groomed to become a degen as I got older I would turn from Raw and catch some MNF until I became a fan same concept I remember how wrestlers would go face to heel and back all the angles lol great drama for kids.I guess coaches are the charismatic managers.
This match could of been interesting, if Bortles and Mettenberg had not both been injured last wknd. I was actually looking forward to a battle of hungry promising rookie QBs showing they have what it takes to get their respective franchises out of the muck, however as situation would have it that's not what we'll be watching tonight, instead we'll have veteran reserves Whitehurtst for Tenn and possibly Henne for Jac as Bortles is still questionable. I would label tonight as The Tank Bowl I figure both teams want best position for #1 draft pick so it's hard to know what kind of preformance we'll get but when thinking of these teams images of helmets clacking together from hard nose defense just don't come to mind it maybe a scenario of you score no I insist you score ,or we may see a casual collegic style can't be sure but with the line on the total being at 39 and dropping its arbitrary for me.
Over 39
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This match could of been interesting, if Bortles and Mettenberg had not both been injured last wknd. I was actually looking forward to a battle of hungry promising rookie QBs showing they have what it takes to get their respective franchises out of the muck, however as situation would have it that's not what we'll be watching tonight, instead we'll have veteran reserves Whitehurtst for Tenn and possibly Henne for Jac as Bortles is still questionable. I would label tonight as The Tank Bowl I figure both teams want best position for #1 draft pick so it's hard to know what kind of preformance we'll get but when thinking of these teams images of helmets clacking together from hard nose defense just don't come to mind it maybe a scenario of you score no I insist you score ,or we may see a casual collegic style can't be sure but with the line on the total being at 39 and dropping its arbitrary for me.
Reminds me of two plays last year in regards to tanking a game...
MIA-PITT LAST year... The receiver stepped out of bounds and they say he didnt... Pitt got screwed last year and so did SF badly...
SEA-SF,, SF was hosting the seahawks,,, the spread was exactly SF-2.5 ,, SF couldve easily won the game and cover the spread,, the receiver had a clear path,, the defender was no where near him,,, and purposely steps out of bounds so that they can win the game with a Field goal and not cover... Now that was rigged... .
I had the seahawks on this one... And SF won by 2 points exactly... Harbaugh is dirty... But i knew SF was a public team and Seahawks was not at the time... But SEA still own the mannings and SF,, WHY? Because those are big market teams... When this team covers,,, expect tons of cash pouring into the books and blood pouring out of the streets.... Simply put,, the public hates the hawks... And that's why they win... You hate richard sherman? Well that's the point,, they know J PUB loves manning... That's how it works... Dont go talking about the clock,, thats just part of the clock work.. The scripted part is when players already know what's going to happen... And no its not always the refs... You have players intentionally holding as well... Players holding back,, players getting called out of the game... Fake injuries ect ect... I record all of this... I have this in a spread sheet...
"...players already know what's going to happen..." And of the thousands of players and ex-players who would have been involved with this, nobody has ever come forward and had specific accusations against the NFL? Even an ex-player who could make $ from it?
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Quote Originally Posted by HoldingXYZ:
Tell him Tank, lol
Reminds me of two plays last year in regards to tanking a game...
MIA-PITT LAST year... The receiver stepped out of bounds and they say he didnt... Pitt got screwed last year and so did SF badly...
SEA-SF,, SF was hosting the seahawks,,, the spread was exactly SF-2.5 ,, SF couldve easily won the game and cover the spread,, the receiver had a clear path,, the defender was no where near him,,, and purposely steps out of bounds so that they can win the game with a Field goal and not cover... Now that was rigged... .
I had the seahawks on this one... And SF won by 2 points exactly... Harbaugh is dirty... But i knew SF was a public team and Seahawks was not at the time... But SEA still own the mannings and SF,, WHY? Because those are big market teams... When this team covers,,, expect tons of cash pouring into the books and blood pouring out of the streets.... Simply put,, the public hates the hawks... And that's why they win... You hate richard sherman? Well that's the point,, they know J PUB loves manning... That's how it works... Dont go talking about the clock,, thats just part of the clock work.. The scripted part is when players already know what's going to happen... And no its not always the refs... You have players intentionally holding as well... Players holding back,, players getting called out of the game... Fake injuries ect ect... I record all of this... I have this in a spread sheet...
"...players already know what's going to happen..." And of the thousands of players and ex-players who would have been involved with this, nobody has ever come forward and had specific accusations against the NFL? Even an ex-player who could make $ from it?
How would he make money?...He wouldn't!!!!..Maybe by some remote radio appearances, his book which will be destroyed by 'those in the know, or trying to sell it in the street, and HE HIMSELF????..Tell me how fast he'd be running away???? Faster than a wildcat with a hot poker up it's behind!!!! In the late 50's, hornung and karas were caught gambling, the infamous Pete Rose, a recent NBA official, and within the past 5 years or so, at least 5-6 college football teams were caught, notably, the key players....NONE of the major news networks would ever publicize this because it is a MULTI-MULTI BILLION DOLLAR BUSINESS!!!!..The american icon!!....If you look around a little on net, you might be really surprised!....www.thefixisin.....NOBODY would hardly interview the guy who detailed shitloads of corruption....Every sport!.....Is it all a big stage???....HELL NO!...But there's control in many, many of them....And why do u think that the best pro football handicappers, for the entire season, only do about 60 percent ????.....THAT'S BEEN PROVEN!....REMEMBER, WHERE THERE IS MONEY, THERE'S CORRUPTION!....And nearly all of life's problems come down to two things-----MONEY AND box!
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How would he make money?...He wouldn't!!!!..Maybe by some remote radio appearances, his book which will be destroyed by 'those in the know, or trying to sell it in the street, and HE HIMSELF????..Tell me how fast he'd be running away???? Faster than a wildcat with a hot poker up it's behind!!!! In the late 50's, hornung and karas were caught gambling, the infamous Pete Rose, a recent NBA official, and within the past 5 years or so, at least 5-6 college football teams were caught, notably, the key players....NONE of the major news networks would ever publicize this because it is a MULTI-MULTI BILLION DOLLAR BUSINESS!!!!..The american icon!!....If you look around a little on net, you might be really surprised!....www.thefixisin.....NOBODY would hardly interview the guy who detailed shitloads of corruption....Every sport!.....Is it all a big stage???....HELL NO!...But there's control in many, many of them....And why do u think that the best pro football handicappers, for the entire season, only do about 60 percent ????.....THAT'S BEEN PROVEN!....REMEMBER, WHERE THERE IS MONEY, THERE'S CORRUPTION!....And nearly all of life's problems come down to two things-----MONEY AND box!
players play for themselves and secure a future for their own families... Some of these players have to listen to the boss,, or else say good bye to contracts... Thats how
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players play for themselves and secure a future for their own families... Some of these players have to listen to the boss,, or else say good bye to contracts... Thats how
Im going to be doing a count... There was a game i saw in the nba yesterday... In a really close game,, A denver powerforward was right underneath the basket with no time left down a bucket... Decides to pass the ball to a houston rockets defender... LOL
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Im going to be doing a count... There was a game i saw in the nba yesterday... In a really close game,, A denver powerforward was right underneath the basket with no time left down a bucket... Decides to pass the ball to a houston rockets defender... LOL
Can Russ put up the points on a stout defense can he scramble out of the pocket and throw against one of the better d lines maybe but a better question is who's the kid in at quarterback for Ari and why are people on them don't know but this has to be the GOY I'm playing it normal
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Can Russ put up the points on a stout defense can he scramble out of the pocket and throw against one of the better d lines maybe but a better question is who's the kid in at quarterback for Ari and why are people on them don't know but this has to be the GOY I'm playing it normal