PockeyMoney, the problem with playing 16 games a day is that first of all, you won't find 16 games that you feel strong about. Second of all, do you have the time and motivation to do research for 16 bets?
I see where you're coming from, but you shouldn't force yourself to play as many games as possible.
If there's only 1 game that you feel strong about, then only play that 1 game. But if you find 5 games that you like, then play those 5.
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PockeyMoney, the problem with playing 16 games a day is that first of all, you won't find 16 games that you feel strong about. Second of all, do you have the time and motivation to do research for 16 bets?
I see where you're coming from, but you shouldn't force yourself to play as many games as possible.
If there's only 1 game that you feel strong about, then only play that 1 game. But if you find 5 games that you like, then play those 5.
PockeyMoney, the problem with playing 16 games a day is that first of all, you won't find 16 games that you feel strong about. Second of all, do you have the time and motivation to do research for 16 bets?
I see where you're coming from, but you shouldn't force yourself to play as many games as possible.
If there's only 1 game that you feel strong about, then only play that 1 game. But if you find 5 games that you like, then play those 5.
Why is everyone so hung up on 16 games a day!!! Out of all the information in my post, the idea of playing 16 games a day was the least important concept. In fact, it was just an example to make the math easier to understand.
Like I said, it could be 5 games a week vs. 15 games a week, or month, or year.
And actually, you should "force yourself to play as many games as possible" IF you have a +EV on those games. If not, you're simply leaving money on the table. This is why if you're capping at 60% or more...what you're actually doing is passing up a sizable number of +EV bets, and not making as much as you could otherwise.
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Quote Originally Posted by Speedup:
PockeyMoney, the problem with playing 16 games a day is that first of all, you won't find 16 games that you feel strong about. Second of all, do you have the time and motivation to do research for 16 bets?
I see where you're coming from, but you shouldn't force yourself to play as many games as possible.
If there's only 1 game that you feel strong about, then only play that 1 game. But if you find 5 games that you like, then play those 5.
Why is everyone so hung up on 16 games a day!!! Out of all the information in my post, the idea of playing 16 games a day was the least important concept. In fact, it was just an example to make the math easier to understand.
Like I said, it could be 5 games a week vs. 15 games a week, or month, or year.
And actually, you should "force yourself to play as many games as possible" IF you have a +EV on those games. If not, you're simply leaving money on the table. This is why if you're capping at 60% or more...what you're actually doing is passing up a sizable number of +EV bets, and not making as much as you could otherwise.
Btw, how is it that you have a Jan 07' born on date with just 58 posts?. That's an unbelievable ratio around these parts.
GL
I hear ya. What's funny is that most of the posters on Covers have more than enough insight to beat Joe Public on a weekly basis and make money at this long-term. Money Mgmt really is 80%-90% of this game, and its what kills 80%-90% of most people.
I signed up back in Jan '07 and posted a little initially, then stopped completely until now. Covers is a great resource, and I've been lurking around the forums the whole time, just never felt the itch to post much. I started posting my plays this preseason just for the hell of it. I planned on posting CFB/NFL this year, we'll see how long that lasts though.
GL.
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Quote Originally Posted by PINNACLE:
Don't even bother.
Arguing with mathematics
Btw, how is it that you have a Jan 07' born on date with just 58 posts?. That's an unbelievable ratio around these parts.
GL
I hear ya. What's funny is that most of the posters on Covers have more than enough insight to beat Joe Public on a weekly basis and make money at this long-term. Money Mgmt really is 80%-90% of this game, and its what kills 80%-90% of most people.
I signed up back in Jan '07 and posted a little initially, then stopped completely until now. Covers is a great resource, and I've been lurking around the forums the whole time, just never felt the itch to post much. I started posting my plays this preseason just for the hell of it. I planned on posting CFB/NFL this year, we'll see how long that lasts though.
To Everyone: I truly was hoping that if I posted my REAL LIFE situation, I would receive real genuine advice. And that is exactly what I am getting from reading everyones posts, which is really making me think hard about what NFL betting comes down to. I think I have to agree with PocketMoney that Money Management is 80%-90% of the game, it's just what is the right way to manage the money?.. However, sometimes I think I get carried away because I want to enjoy games by putting my money where my mouth is, like betting sunday and monday night games i'm not confident about..
When you come down to it.. the most important part is how much $$$ you made or lost at the end of the year.. the problem is how should you manage that...
One thing I'm still confused about is the % betting. The ones that say I will be gone in a few weeks if I continue to bet $100 + on games with $2,000.00 bankroll.. My question for you is.. What is your Weekly Betting Schedule? or at least what do you normally do.. for example this was my schedule last year.
Find games I like at 1:00 P.M and just bet whatever I feel i can afford, no managing or anything..
After 1:00 p.m. i'm either down or up... if i'm down I usually try to get some or most of it back on the 4:00 p.m games.. If i'm up, I try to make it larger at 4:00 p.m
After 4:00 p.m. I bet sunday nite no matter what, because I love to watch football and now I like to gamble, so combining the two is lots of fun for me..
Monday Night I will bet no matter what, unless I am down too much for the week or If i truly don't like anything i will put very small wagers on the game, hoping it makes me concentrate more to learn something about monday night games..
Sunday's for me are usually ALL FOOTBALL, everything else takes a backseat for the day.. I'm usually cranky b/c people try to talk to me as I watch score updates..
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To Everyone: I truly was hoping that if I posted my REAL LIFE situation, I would receive real genuine advice. And that is exactly what I am getting from reading everyones posts, which is really making me think hard about what NFL betting comes down to. I think I have to agree with PocketMoney that Money Management is 80%-90% of the game, it's just what is the right way to manage the money?.. However, sometimes I think I get carried away because I want to enjoy games by putting my money where my mouth is, like betting sunday and monday night games i'm not confident about..
When you come down to it.. the most important part is how much $$$ you made or lost at the end of the year.. the problem is how should you manage that...
One thing I'm still confused about is the % betting. The ones that say I will be gone in a few weeks if I continue to bet $100 + on games with $2,000.00 bankroll.. My question for you is.. What is your Weekly Betting Schedule? or at least what do you normally do.. for example this was my schedule last year.
Find games I like at 1:00 P.M and just bet whatever I feel i can afford, no managing or anything..
After 1:00 p.m. i'm either down or up... if i'm down I usually try to get some or most of it back on the 4:00 p.m games.. If i'm up, I try to make it larger at 4:00 p.m
After 4:00 p.m. I bet sunday nite no matter what, because I love to watch football and now I like to gamble, so combining the two is lots of fun for me..
Monday Night I will bet no matter what, unless I am down too much for the week or If i truly don't like anything i will put very small wagers on the game, hoping it makes me concentrate more to learn something about monday night games..
Sunday's for me are usually ALL FOOTBALL, everything else takes a backseat for the day.. I'm usually cranky b/c people try to talk to me as I watch score updates..
I have been playing for 18 years now and thats exactly what we are doing is playing. Anyone who says they make a living gambling is a freaking liar. I make alot of cash wagering on football. I make more $$$$$$ on football wagering than working but then I lose money on baseball and basketball because I still need the rush of having action on the game. If I could cap baseball and bassketball half as good as football I would be alright but its all for fun anyway. I do like to win like everyone else and I do it alot but nobody retires on sports gambling. Have fun with it and make alot of money. DONT waste any money buying picks from handicappers online either. They sell half their customers one side and the other half the other side and call the half that won askinf for more money. My best advise is to come to this site and get the best picks from all of us and leave those guys alone. I make most of my cash playing money lines. I hit a greater % of games but it does take a little longer to build your bankroll. Its the safest way that I have found. Good luck to all.
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I have been playing for 18 years now and thats exactly what we are doing is playing. Anyone who says they make a living gambling is a freaking liar. I make alot of cash wagering on football. I make more $$$$$$ on football wagering than working but then I lose money on baseball and basketball because I still need the rush of having action on the game. If I could cap baseball and bassketball half as good as football I would be alright but its all for fun anyway. I do like to win like everyone else and I do it alot but nobody retires on sports gambling. Have fun with it and make alot of money. DONT waste any money buying picks from handicappers online either. They sell half their customers one side and the other half the other side and call the half that won askinf for more money. My best advise is to come to this site and get the best picks from all of us and leave those guys alone. I make most of my cash playing money lines. I hit a greater % of games but it does take a little longer to build your bankroll. Its the safest way that I have found. Good luck to all.
This is a terrible thread, littered with terrible advice.
First, the idea that only playing 1 or 2 games is somehow preferable to betting 4, 10, 15 or even 20 games is total garbage. The focus is on increasing net units, not maximizing your % of winners. Every time you have a positive expected value (+EV) on a game (which is generally in the 54%-58% range) you pull the trigger.
A long term winning percentage over 60% is actually too high. You’re just leaving money on the table.
Assuming you risk $110 to win $100, if you make only five bets on a given day, and win three of them, that's a winning percentage of 60% and a net profit for the day of $80 dollars. (You win $300 and lose 220 dollars.)
BUT, if I make 16 bets on that same day and win 9 of them….I only won 56.25% of my bets. HOWEVER, I made 62.5% more money than you did for the day - $130 dollars. (I won $900 and lost $770 dollars.)
Second, to the poster who plans on writing off losses on their taxes. Hate to burst your bubble, but the tax man has a big problem with taking a deduction for net gambling losses.
The basics: Flat betting.. no more than 2% of your bankroll on any given game. Unless you can routinely and accurately calculate your EV on a given game (which while theoretically possible, is in reality almost impossible to do) using a “1 star”, “5 star” or “30 dime winner” is quite honestly idiotic and counterproductive.
Look, man, don't bother responding. This is where I got 100 rock bets and 16 bets from. "Just so you know."
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Quote Originally Posted by PocketMoney:
This is a terrible thread, littered with terrible advice.
First, the idea that only playing 1 or 2 games is somehow preferable to betting 4, 10, 15 or even 20 games is total garbage. The focus is on increasing net units, not maximizing your % of winners. Every time you have a positive expected value (+EV) on a game (which is generally in the 54%-58% range) you pull the trigger.
A long term winning percentage over 60% is actually too high. You’re just leaving money on the table.
Assuming you risk $110 to win $100, if you make only five bets on a given day, and win three of them, that's a winning percentage of 60% and a net profit for the day of $80 dollars. (You win $300 and lose 220 dollars.)
BUT, if I make 16 bets on that same day and win 9 of them….I only won 56.25% of my bets. HOWEVER, I made 62.5% more money than you did for the day - $130 dollars. (I won $900 and lost $770 dollars.)
Second, to the poster who plans on writing off losses on their taxes. Hate to burst your bubble, but the tax man has a big problem with taking a deduction for net gambling losses.
The basics: Flat betting.. no more than 2% of your bankroll on any given game. Unless you can routinely and accurately calculate your EV on a given game (which while theoretically possible, is in reality almost impossible to do) using a “1 star”, “5 star” or “30 dime winner” is quite honestly idiotic and counterproductive.
Look, man, don't bother responding. This is where I got 100 rock bets and 16 bets from. "Just so you know."
1-2% of your total is plenty. Recalculate every 25% gain or lost all year long.
Stay away from the preseason. For the most part teams don't give a shit, why bet on a game that has 2 teams that don't care what happens. Wait till teams care.
You sound really new to this. Study and figure out what helps teams cover spreads before you jump in with your $.
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1-2% of your total is plenty. Recalculate every 25% gain or lost all year long.
Stay away from the preseason. For the most part teams don't give a shit, why bet on a game that has 2 teams that don't care what happens. Wait till teams care.
You sound really new to this. Study and figure out what helps teams cover spreads before you jump in with your $.
This is a terrible thread, littered with terrible advice.
First, the idea that only playing 1 or 2 games is somehow preferable to betting 4, 10, 15 or even 20 games is total garbage. The focus is on increasing net units, not maximizing your % of winners. Every time you have a positive expected value (+EV) on a game (which is generally in the 54%-58% range) you pull the trigger.
A long term winning percentage over 60% is actually too high. You’re just leaving money on the table.
Assuming you risk $110 to win $100, if you make only five bets on a given day, and win three of them, that's a winning percentage of 60% and a net profit for the day of $80 dollars. (You win $300 and lose 220 dollars.)
BUT, if I make 16 bets on that same day and win 9 of them….I only won 56.25% of my bets. HOWEVER, I made 62.5% more money than you did for the day - $130 dollars. (I won $900 and lost $770 dollars.)
Second, to the poster who plans on writing off losses on their taxes. Hate to burst your bubble, but the tax man has a big problem with taking a deduction for net gambling losses.
The basics: Flat betting.. no more than 2% of your bankroll on any given game. Unless you can routinely and accurately calculate your EV on a given game (which while theoretically possible, is in reality almost impossible to do) using a “1 star”, “5 star” or “30 dime winner” is quite honestly idiotic and counterproductive.
so what happens when he loses 60+% one week? he loses "65%+ more than he would have if he only bet 2-3 games...
not everyone is made of money & has a few tens-of-thousands of "pocket money" to blow on 9 games a week.
take your terrible attitude to a different thread.
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Quote Originally Posted by PocketMoney:
This is a terrible thread, littered with terrible advice.
First, the idea that only playing 1 or 2 games is somehow preferable to betting 4, 10, 15 or even 20 games is total garbage. The focus is on increasing net units, not maximizing your % of winners. Every time you have a positive expected value (+EV) on a game (which is generally in the 54%-58% range) you pull the trigger.
A long term winning percentage over 60% is actually too high. You’re just leaving money on the table.
Assuming you risk $110 to win $100, if you make only five bets on a given day, and win three of them, that's a winning percentage of 60% and a net profit for the day of $80 dollars. (You win $300 and lose 220 dollars.)
BUT, if I make 16 bets on that same day and win 9 of them….I only won 56.25% of my bets. HOWEVER, I made 62.5% more money than you did for the day - $130 dollars. (I won $900 and lost $770 dollars.)
Second, to the poster who plans on writing off losses on their taxes. Hate to burst your bubble, but the tax man has a big problem with taking a deduction for net gambling losses.
The basics: Flat betting.. no more than 2% of your bankroll on any given game. Unless you can routinely and accurately calculate your EV on a given game (which while theoretically possible, is in reality almost impossible to do) using a “1 star”, “5 star” or “30 dime winner” is quite honestly idiotic and counterproductive.
so what happens when he loses 60+% one week? he loses "65%+ more than he would have if he only bet 2-3 games...
not everyone is made of money & has a few tens-of-thousands of "pocket money" to blow on 9 games a week.
take your terrible attitude to a different thread.
1) Take in all of the advice and choose the best that suits your needs and makes you feel comfortable doing.
2) In the end win or lose it's your money that increases or decreases so be prepared to take the loss if needed cause no matter what happens you and you alone will have to pay for the losses.
3) What I have done for a number of years now is bankroll. A lot of people in here have already given you that advice but would like to add to their input.
* The smaller the bankroll the larger the percentage you should invest in the wager and vice versa for a larger bankroll. Based on your bankroll I would say about 7%. Adjust your percentage from there once you get more comfortable.
* Once you set your bankroll don't ever start adding more of your pocket money into the bankroll. Chasing your money is never a good thing. Build discipline once your bankroll is done so is your wagering. Very hard to do but if you decide to continue be prepared to suffer the consequences.
4) To be honest with you with that bankroll I would not even touch the preseason games. I personally don't touch preseason games too many intangibles.
5) Treat your wagers as an investment. I see that you state " no matter what you would wager on a Sunday night game due to your love of football and gambling" You need to figure out for yourself if that is a wise investment or not??
6) There are many games to choose from in College and Football pick and choose them wisely. The more you look at the more you need to cap.
7) Covers and Covers members are loaded with useful information. I have been here for a while and love this site. Very useful info in here to help with your investments.
8) In the end it's what you decide that matters.
Hope that helps. Aloha and good luck to you this season
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Just my 2 cents but hope this helps......
1) Take in all of the advice and choose the best that suits your needs and makes you feel comfortable doing.
2) In the end win or lose it's your money that increases or decreases so be prepared to take the loss if needed cause no matter what happens you and you alone will have to pay for the losses.
3) What I have done for a number of years now is bankroll. A lot of people in here have already given you that advice but would like to add to their input.
* The smaller the bankroll the larger the percentage you should invest in the wager and vice versa for a larger bankroll. Based on your bankroll I would say about 7%. Adjust your percentage from there once you get more comfortable.
* Once you set your bankroll don't ever start adding more of your pocket money into the bankroll. Chasing your money is never a good thing. Build discipline once your bankroll is done so is your wagering. Very hard to do but if you decide to continue be prepared to suffer the consequences.
4) To be honest with you with that bankroll I would not even touch the preseason games. I personally don't touch preseason games too many intangibles.
5) Treat your wagers as an investment. I see that you state " no matter what you would wager on a Sunday night game due to your love of football and gambling" You need to figure out for yourself if that is a wise investment or not??
6) There are many games to choose from in College and Football pick and choose them wisely. The more you look at the more you need to cap.
7) Covers and Covers members are loaded with useful information. I have been here for a while and love this site. Very useful info in here to help with your investments.
8) In the end it's what you decide that matters.
Hope that helps. Aloha and good luck to you this season
Skip the pre-season, and then go forward with flat betting. For example each juice means you bet a different amount, but it all equals out with your chances at winning according to Vanzack's mathematical model.
Here's examples of how i wager: -110 = 1.048 units to win 0.952 units = 2.0 units won (including the wagered) -115 = 1.070 units to win 0.930 units= 2.0 units won -120 = 1.091 units to win 0.909 units = 2.0 -125 = 1.111 units to win 0.889 units = 2.0 -105 = 1.024 units to win 0.976 units = 2.0 +100 = 1 unit to win 1 unit = 2 units
etc.
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my advice:
Skip the pre-season, and then go forward with flat betting. For example each juice means you bet a different amount, but it all equals out with your chances at winning according to Vanzack's mathematical model.
Here's examples of how i wager: -110 = 1.048 units to win 0.952 units = 2.0 units won (including the wagered) -115 = 1.070 units to win 0.930 units= 2.0 units won -120 = 1.091 units to win 0.909 units = 2.0 -125 = 1.111 units to win 0.889 units = 2.0 -105 = 1.024 units to win 0.976 units = 2.0 +100 = 1 unit to win 1 unit = 2 units
so what happens when he loses 60+% one week? he loses "65%+ more than he would have if he only bet 2-3 games...
not everyone is made of money & has a few tens-of-thousands of "pocket money" to blow on 9 games a week.
take your terrible attitude to a different thread.
True. If he's picking less than 40% winners, he'll lose more money betting more games. That's why you're only risking 2% of your roll on any one game...so you can weather those storms.
And if you're routinely picking <40% winners...money management is the least of your concerns......
I love these posters who justify ridiculous money management and betting strategies on the basis that "they're not made of money." With a little bit of research, patience, and money mgmt, you're not "blowing" any money...you're investing.
If you want to get rich quick...play the freaking lottery. Just don't spout off like you're giving reliable advice to a beginner. Or, just keep betting huge amounts of your bankroll on a single game, keep chasing losses, and otherwise stick with what you're doing. The end result will be same. You'll keep reloading your offshore account and paying your bookie.
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Quote Originally Posted by lovetoball:
so what happens when he loses 60+% one week? he loses "65%+ more than he would have if he only bet 2-3 games...
not everyone is made of money & has a few tens-of-thousands of "pocket money" to blow on 9 games a week.
take your terrible attitude to a different thread.
True. If he's picking less than 40% winners, he'll lose more money betting more games. That's why you're only risking 2% of your roll on any one game...so you can weather those storms.
And if you're routinely picking <40% winners...money management is the least of your concerns......
I love these posters who justify ridiculous money management and betting strategies on the basis that "they're not made of money." With a little bit of research, patience, and money mgmt, you're not "blowing" any money...you're investing.
If you want to get rich quick...play the freaking lottery. Just don't spout off like you're giving reliable advice to a beginner. Or, just keep betting huge amounts of your bankroll on a single game, keep chasing losses, and otherwise stick with what you're doing. The end result will be same. You'll keep reloading your offshore account and paying your bookie.
Pre-season betting is like flipping a coin unless you have an "in" and most of us don't. Just wait, the regular season will be here soon and teams will actually be trying to win rather than testing rookies etc. Lay off the pre-season. Good luck.
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Pre-season betting is like flipping a coin unless you have an "in" and most of us don't. Just wait, the regular season will be here soon and teams will actually be trying to win rather than testing rookies etc. Lay off the pre-season. Good luck.
Figure to be a 17 week season plus 3 week preseason, you cannot lose more than $100 a week.
And if you bet 2 games that would be $50 a game max.
But then again, if you bet just to have fun and not worrying about how long it is going to last, then bet a $100 a game and when you lose your $2000. Quit.
That is going to happen anyways, week 1 or week 16 don't make a difference.
You really don't have a chance with a $2000 bankroll, betting $150 a game.
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$2000 is not a lot for a long season.
Figure to be a 17 week season plus 3 week preseason, you cannot lose more than $100 a week.
And if you bet 2 games that would be $50 a game max.
But then again, if you bet just to have fun and not worrying about how long it is going to last, then bet a $100 a game and when you lose your $2000. Quit.
That is going to happen anyways, week 1 or week 16 don't make a difference.
You really don't have a chance with a $2000 bankroll, betting $150 a game.
To Everyone: I truly was hoping that if I posted my REAL LIFE situation, I would receive real genuine advice. And that is exactly what I am getting from reading everyones posts, which is really making me think hard about what NFL betting comes down to. I think I have to agree with PocketMoney that Money Management is 80%-90% of the game, it's just what is the right way to manage the money?.. However, sometimes I think I get carried away because I want to enjoy games by putting my money where my mouth is, like betting sunday and monday night games i'm not confident about..
When you come down to it.. the most important part is how much $$$ you made or lost at the end of the year.. the problem is how should you manage that...
One thing I'm still confused about is the % betting. The ones that say I will be gone in a few weeks if I continue to bet $100 + on games with $2,000.00 bankroll.. My question for you is.. What is your Weekly Betting Schedule? or at least what do you normally do.. for example this was my schedule last year.
Find games I like at 1:00 P.M and just bet whatever I feel i can afford, no managing or anything..
After 1:00 p.m. i'm either down or up... if i'm down I usually try to get some or most of it back on the 4:00 p.m games.. If i'm up, I try to make it larger at 4:00 p.m
After 4:00 p.m. I bet sunday nite no matter what, because I love to watch football and now I like to gamble, so combining the two is lots of fun for me..
Monday Night I will bet no matter what, unless I am down too much for the week or If i truly don't like anything i will put very small wagers on the game, hoping it makes me concentrate more to learn something about monday night games..
Sunday's for me are usually ALL FOOTBALL, everything else takes a backseat for the day.. I'm usually cranky b/c people try to talk to me as I watch score updates..
This is what I think will happen.
After the first week you will be up $160 ($40 juice),
You are going to break even the 2nd and 3 rd week.
And then on the 4th week, you will lose the early games, bet more at 4 p.m. lose more, then night game bet even more, lose that.
After the 4th week you are down to $1500.
Monday night comes and you lose again this time -$330.
Then Sunday games come and you lose every single game and there goes your $2000.
You probably won't quit and keep betting and lose some more.
At the end of the season, you probably be down 5 to 6k.
This happens to everyone when they start betting. No exceptions.
So be prepared.
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Quote Originally Posted by BarryDingle31:
To Everyone: I truly was hoping that if I posted my REAL LIFE situation, I would receive real genuine advice. And that is exactly what I am getting from reading everyones posts, which is really making me think hard about what NFL betting comes down to. I think I have to agree with PocketMoney that Money Management is 80%-90% of the game, it's just what is the right way to manage the money?.. However, sometimes I think I get carried away because I want to enjoy games by putting my money where my mouth is, like betting sunday and monday night games i'm not confident about..
When you come down to it.. the most important part is how much $$$ you made or lost at the end of the year.. the problem is how should you manage that...
One thing I'm still confused about is the % betting. The ones that say I will be gone in a few weeks if I continue to bet $100 + on games with $2,000.00 bankroll.. My question for you is.. What is your Weekly Betting Schedule? or at least what do you normally do.. for example this was my schedule last year.
Find games I like at 1:00 P.M and just bet whatever I feel i can afford, no managing or anything..
After 1:00 p.m. i'm either down or up... if i'm down I usually try to get some or most of it back on the 4:00 p.m games.. If i'm up, I try to make it larger at 4:00 p.m
After 4:00 p.m. I bet sunday nite no matter what, because I love to watch football and now I like to gamble, so combining the two is lots of fun for me..
Monday Night I will bet no matter what, unless I am down too much for the week or If i truly don't like anything i will put very small wagers on the game, hoping it makes me concentrate more to learn something about monday night games..
Sunday's for me are usually ALL FOOTBALL, everything else takes a backseat for the day.. I'm usually cranky b/c people try to talk to me as I watch score updates..
This is what I think will happen.
After the first week you will be up $160 ($40 juice),
You are going to break even the 2nd and 3 rd week.
And then on the 4th week, you will lose the early games, bet more at 4 p.m. lose more, then night game bet even more, lose that.
After the 4th week you are down to $1500.
Monday night comes and you lose again this time -$330.
Then Sunday games come and you lose every single game and there goes your $2000.
You probably won't quit and keep betting and lose some more.
At the end of the season, you probably be down 5 to 6k.
This happens to everyone when they start betting. No exceptions.
1) Take in all of the advice and choose the best that suits your needs and makes you feel comfortable doing.
2) In the end win or lose it's your money that increases or decreases so be prepared to take the loss if needed cause no matter what happens you and you alone will have to pay for the losses.
3) What I have done for a number of years now is bankroll. A lot of people in here have already given you that advice but would like to add to their input.
* The smaller the bankroll the larger the percentage you should invest in the wager and vice versa for a larger bankroll. Based on your bankroll I would say about 7%. Adjust your percentage from there once you get more comfortable.
* Once you set your bankroll don't ever start adding more of your pocket money into the bankroll. Chasing your money is never a good thing. Build discipline once your bankroll is done so is your wagering. Very hard to do but if you decide to continue be prepared to suffer the consequences.
4) To be honest with you with that bankroll I would not even touch the preseason games. I personally don't touch preseason games too many intangibles.
5) Treat your wagers as an investment. I see that you state " no matter what you would wager on a Sunday night game due to your love of football and gambling" You need to figure out for yourself if that is a wise investment or not??
6) There are many games to choose from in College and Football pick and choose them wisely. The more you look at the more you need to cap.
7) Covers and Covers members are loaded with useful information. I have been here for a while and love this site. Very useful info in here to help with your investments.
8) In the end it's what you decide that matters.
Hope that helps. Aloha and good luck to you this season
Bigdaddy...glad to see you found this thread and chimed in. You always seem to give good advise and I totally agree with your first 2 points and #5. I was thinking the same thing.
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Quote Originally Posted by bigdaddyhpd:
Just my 2 cents but hope this helps......
1) Take in all of the advice and choose the best that suits your needs and makes you feel comfortable doing.
2) In the end win or lose it's your money that increases or decreases so be prepared to take the loss if needed cause no matter what happens you and you alone will have to pay for the losses.
3) What I have done for a number of years now is bankroll. A lot of people in here have already given you that advice but would like to add to their input.
* The smaller the bankroll the larger the percentage you should invest in the wager and vice versa for a larger bankroll. Based on your bankroll I would say about 7%. Adjust your percentage from there once you get more comfortable.
* Once you set your bankroll don't ever start adding more of your pocket money into the bankroll. Chasing your money is never a good thing. Build discipline once your bankroll is done so is your wagering. Very hard to do but if you decide to continue be prepared to suffer the consequences.
4) To be honest with you with that bankroll I would not even touch the preseason games. I personally don't touch preseason games too many intangibles.
5) Treat your wagers as an investment. I see that you state " no matter what you would wager on a Sunday night game due to your love of football and gambling" You need to figure out for yourself if that is a wise investment or not??
6) There are many games to choose from in College and Football pick and choose them wisely. The more you look at the more you need to cap.
7) Covers and Covers members are loaded with useful information. I have been here for a while and love this site. Very useful info in here to help with your investments.
8) In the end it's what you decide that matters.
Hope that helps. Aloha and good luck to you this season
Bigdaddy...glad to see you found this thread and chimed in. You always seem to give good advise and I totally agree with your first 2 points and #5. I was thinking the same thing.
Bigdaddy...glad to see you found this thread and chimed in. You always seem to give good advise and I totally agree with your first 2 points and #5. I was thinking the same thing.
Nice to see you on the thread bro. It's almost that time of the year I'm salivating just thinking about football
As far as the advice you know I'm always willing to try to help anyone that wants or ask for it. May not be the right advice but I try.
Good luck this season my friend I'll see you on the football threads
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Quote Originally Posted by WillRadar:
Bigdaddy...glad to see you found this thread and chimed in. You always seem to give good advise and I totally agree with your first 2 points and #5. I was thinking the same thing.
Nice to see you on the thread bro. It's almost that time of the year I'm salivating just thinking about football
As far as the advice you know I'm always willing to try to help anyone that wants or ask for it. May not be the right advice but I try.
Good luck this season my friend I'll see you on the football threads
bet 1000 of it on my first game- if i win, pocket 1500 automaticlly. end of story.play rest of season with winnings minus what i just won.
if i lose, bet the 2nd half on game 2- if I lose, im busted- if i win quit.
prolonged betting is prolonged death. go big or go home. You may think this is stupid. Stupid is losing 2 g's that you need. If this is 2 g's set aside- then go crazy. 16 weeks of spread out fun and winnings or losings packed into 2 games is really where its at.
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If i had 2 g's this is what I'd do-
bet 1000 of it on my first game- if i win, pocket 1500 automaticlly. end of story.play rest of season with winnings minus what i just won.
if i lose, bet the 2nd half on game 2- if I lose, im busted- if i win quit.
prolonged betting is prolonged death. go big or go home. You may think this is stupid. Stupid is losing 2 g's that you need. If this is 2 g's set aside- then go crazy. 16 weeks of spread out fun and winnings or losings packed into 2 games is really where its at.
Morpheusneo1: That was last year, my first year betting football, but my 15th watching for the game.. That is why I'm asking for advice.. because I would like to combine the two in a managed way, and trying to make a bit off it. What was your betting patten like last year? what did you do all sunday?
Bigdaddy: Thank You, you're right i'm the one that has to pay the bookie, so it's up to me what I choose to do.. I think I now realize my problem last year was chasing and not managing my bet amounts correctly..It's hard though, I suppose it requires a lot of will power and discipline, especially when you have an opinion on games as a fan.. Are you someone who personally watches the games or do you bet and just find out the outcome the next day? I'm also curious what your betting pattern is on Sundays through out the day as compared to mine from last year.
There's a lot at stake here and I appreciate the input.. I think I feel my will power increases already Honesty really is the best policy
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Morpheusneo1: That was last year, my first year betting football, but my 15th watching for the game.. That is why I'm asking for advice.. because I would like to combine the two in a managed way, and trying to make a bit off it. What was your betting patten like last year? what did you do all sunday?
Bigdaddy: Thank You, you're right i'm the one that has to pay the bookie, so it's up to me what I choose to do.. I think I now realize my problem last year was chasing and not managing my bet amounts correctly..It's hard though, I suppose it requires a lot of will power and discipline, especially when you have an opinion on games as a fan.. Are you someone who personally watches the games or do you bet and just find out the outcome the next day? I'm also curious what your betting pattern is on Sundays through out the day as compared to mine from last year.
There's a lot at stake here and I appreciate the input.. I think I feel my will power increases already Honesty really is the best policy
MovinUnits: I don't like losing, it doesn't do good things for my personality, whether it's losing at a video game for pride against my friends or losing money at choosing which team is better than the other... I really enjoy this and thats why I set aside money, as an Investment like they say, and I want this to grow, but I need a better strategy..
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MovinUnits: I don't like losing, it doesn't do good things for my personality, whether it's losing at a video game for pride against my friends or losing money at choosing which team is better than the other... I really enjoy this and thats why I set aside money, as an Investment like they say, and I want this to grow, but I need a better strategy..
So you guys are just going to wait till football starts? The olympics are on right now, lots of easy money to be won before football starts!!! Build that $2000 up......And bet moneylines!!!
Wager Type:
Moneyline
Wager Status:
Win
Risk/To Win Amount:
1,868.00 / 200.00 (CAD)
Date Accepted:
18-August-2008
Time Accepted:
5:31:49 PM (Pacific)
Amount Paid:
2,068.00
Sport/Period:
Volleyball Betting - Women Volleyball / Game
Teams:
Cuba vs Serbia
Game Date
18-August-2008
Wager Line:
Cuba -934
Now roll it on Australia in womens basketball tonight!!!!!
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So you guys are just going to wait till football starts? The olympics are on right now, lots of easy money to be won before football starts!!! Build that $2000 up......And bet moneylines!!!
Wager Type:
Moneyline
Wager Status:
Win
Risk/To Win Amount:
1,868.00 / 200.00 (CAD)
Date Accepted:
18-August-2008
Time Accepted:
5:31:49 PM (Pacific)
Amount Paid:
2,068.00
Sport/Period:
Volleyball Betting - Women Volleyball / Game
Teams:
Cuba vs Serbia
Game Date
18-August-2008
Wager Line:
Cuba -934
Now roll it on Australia in womens basketball tonight!!!!!
So you guys are just going to wait till football starts? The olympics are on right now, lots of easy money to be won before football starts!!! Build that $2000 up......And bet moneylines!!!
Wager Type:
Moneyline
Wager Status:
Win
Risk/To Win Amount:
1,868.00 / 200.00 (CAD)
Date Accepted:
18-August-2008
Time Accepted:
5:31:49 PM (Pacific)
Amount Paid:
2,068.00
Sport/Period:
Volleyball Betting - Women Volleyball / Game
Teams:
Cuba vs Serbia
Game Date
18-August-2008
Wager Line:
Cuba -934
Now roll it on Australia in womens basketball tonight!!!!!
I don't know about anyone else on here but I don't feel like laying almost 2G to win $200 on some Olympic sport.
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Quote Originally Posted by STEVEPERRY:
So you guys are just going to wait till football starts? The olympics are on right now, lots of easy money to be won before football starts!!! Build that $2000 up......And bet moneylines!!!
Wager Type:
Moneyline
Wager Status:
Win
Risk/To Win Amount:
1,868.00 / 200.00 (CAD)
Date Accepted:
18-August-2008
Time Accepted:
5:31:49 PM (Pacific)
Amount Paid:
2,068.00
Sport/Period:
Volleyball Betting - Women Volleyball / Game
Teams:
Cuba vs Serbia
Game Date
18-August-2008
Wager Line:
Cuba -934
Now roll it on Australia in womens basketball tonight!!!!!
I don't know about anyone else on here but I don't feel like laying almost 2G to win $200 on some Olympic sport.
If you don't like to win money, thats not my problem. It's called gambling. If you do your research you would know. And yes Australia's womens basketball team won$$$$$
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If you don't like to win money, thats not my problem. It's called gambling. If you do your research you would know. And yes Australia's womens basketball team won$$$$$
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