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    Hey Guys...Tim Tebow Still Sucks

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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2011 - 12:06 AM ET #1826

    Straight shooter just saying now thats a different era also
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2011 - 12:15 AM ET #1827

    Quote Originally Posted by MJ2345:

    Straight shooter just saying now thats a different era also

    I agree.  Which is why I wouldn’t be upset if there was an asterisk next to Brees breaking Marino’s record.

    However, he just said “show me 1 QB who has had a successful lasting career with that PATHETIC of a rating.”  He didn’t add “in the past 10 years.”

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJ2345:

    Straight shooter just saying now thats a different era also

    I agree.  Which is why I wouldn’t be upset if there was an asterisk next to Brees breaking Marino’s record.

    However, he just said “show me 1 QB who has had a successful lasting career with that PATHETIC of a rating.”  He didn’t add “in the past 10 years.”

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2011 - 12:25 AM ET #1828

    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    I agree.  Which is why I wouldn’t be upset if there was an asterisk next to Brees breaking Marino’s record.

    However, he just said “show me 1 QB who has had a successful lasting career with that PATHETIC of a rating.”  He didn’t add “in the past 10 years.”

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    I agree.  Which is why I wouldn’t be upset if there was an asterisk next to Brees breaking Marino’s record.

    However, he just said “show me 1 QB who has had a successful lasting career with that PATHETIC of a rating.”  He didn’t add “in the past 10 years.”

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2011 - 1:20 AM ET #1829

    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    Tebow is almost a rookie (only a few starts last season, missed the most critical offseason of a player’s career, new coach, etc.) yet some people think he won’t improve even a little and this is the best he’ll ever be.  

    We are talking about a guy that had about 10,000 passing yards in college with a 66.4 completion percentage and 88 TDs, but there’s no way he will get better?

    JaMarcus Russell was a good college QB. So was Ryan Leaf. And David Carr. As well as Tim Couch and Joey Harrington. Doesn't mean they'll be able to adjust to the NFL.

    Tebow hasn't adjusted to the NFL. He's in a position where the NFL has to adjust to HIM. And as long as they continue to do that...he'll eventually be an afterthought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    Tebow is almost a rookie (only a few starts last season, missed the most critical offseason of a player’s career, new coach, etc.) yet some people think he won’t improve even a little and this is the best he’ll ever be.  

    We are talking about a guy that had about 10,000 passing yards in college with a 66.4 completion percentage and 88 TDs, but there’s no way he will get better?

    JaMarcus Russell was a good college QB. So was Ryan Leaf. And David Carr. As well as Tim Couch and Joey Harrington. Doesn't mean they'll be able to adjust to the NFL.

    Tebow hasn't adjusted to the NFL. He's in a position where the NFL has to adjust to HIM. And as long as they continue to do that...he'll eventually be an afterthought.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2011 - 1:21 AM ET #1830

    And if he DOES improve...I'll be fine in saying I was wrong. But I don't see it happening.
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2011 - 9:56 AM ET #1831

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

    The Chiefs should be favored on the road in Denver? Boy do I wish you were a linesmaker.

    What side are you on anyway? Are you on the side that says Tebow is good? The side that says Tebow is bad? Or are you just a Chiefs fan?

    You wish I were a linesmaker. No one would ever cover. Posts 1638, 1654, 1684, 1759, 1762, 1797 would have explained my positions on tebow and romo and you would have learned something. I am on the side that tebow’s team is bad, his coaches are idiots, and tebow is out on the field alone with no help. I am not a fan of the chiefs, I am a fan of the national football league. I study and know about every team in the NFL to find a bettors edge. I will not have any action on the broncos vs. chiefs game this sunday. I will be cheering for the broncos because I relate to being an under dog but I believe the chiefs are going to win and are clearly the better coached and supremely talented team. If you studied the game, you would know that.

    JaMarcus Russell had zero work ethic and just wanted to be paid and get high all day. Ryan Leaf played one season in college for the PAC 12 and won absolutely nothing. David Carr another unproven QB taken out of the WAC that accomplished nothing. Tim Couch played one good year in college, won nothing, and left early for money. Joey Harrington actually did some things in college but was drafted by the lions, enough said. Tebow has good leadership skills, strong work ethic, won 15 awards, played in the toughest conference and won 2 SEC championships and won 2 national titles. It’s disrespectful to even put those guys in the same category as tebow. The problem is he plays for the broncos, which are poorly coached and have zero talent on the offensive side of the ball. Maybe tebow can get an opportunity one day like vick has and be surrounded by great coaches and elite talent. Vick was awful at throwing the ball, had horrible coaching, and had no elite talent surrounding him throughout his career. Now vick has an elite running back, great wide receivers, great tight ends, and a monster defense and has football wise coaches surrounding him that have taught him to play the quarterback position and have put him in a position to succeed. I know the eagles underachieved this year but they will be in contention for a super bowl trophy the next 5 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

    The Chiefs should be favored on the road in Denver? Boy do I wish you were a linesmaker.

    What side are you on anyway? Are you on the side that says Tebow is good? The side that says Tebow is bad? Or are you just a Chiefs fan?

    You wish I were a linesmaker. No one would ever cover. Posts 1638, 1654, 1684, 1759, 1762, 1797 would have explained my positions on tebow and romo and you would have learned something. I am on the side that tebow’s team is bad, his coaches are idiots, and tebow is out on the field alone with no help. I am not a fan of the chiefs, I am a fan of the national football league. I study and know about every team in the NFL to find a bettors edge. I will not have any action on the broncos vs. chiefs game this sunday. I will be cheering for the broncos because I relate to being an under dog but I believe the chiefs are going to win and are clearly the better coached and supremely talented team. If you studied the game, you would know that.

    JaMarcus Russell had zero work ethic and just wanted to be paid and get high all day. Ryan Leaf played one season in college for the PAC 12 and won absolutely nothing. David Carr another unproven QB taken out of the WAC that accomplished nothing. Tim Couch played one good year in college, won nothing, and left early for money. Joey Harrington actually did some things in college but was drafted by the lions, enough said. Tebow has good leadership skills, strong work ethic, won 15 awards, played in the toughest conference and won 2 SEC championships and won 2 national titles. It’s disrespectful to even put those guys in the same category as tebow. The problem is he plays for the broncos, which are poorly coached and have zero talent on the offensive side of the ball. Maybe tebow can get an opportunity one day like vick has and be surrounded by great coaches and elite talent. Vick was awful at throwing the ball, had horrible coaching, and had no elite talent surrounding him throughout his career. Now vick has an elite running back, great wide receivers, great tight ends, and a monster defense and has football wise coaches surrounding him that have taught him to play the quarterback position and have put him in a position to succeed. I know the eagles underachieved this year but they will be in contention for a super bowl trophy the next 5 years.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2011 - 10:20 AM ET #1832

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

    JaMarcus Russell was a good college QB. So was Ryan Leaf. And David Carr. As well as Tim Couch and Joey Harrington. Doesn't mean they'll be able to adjust to the NFL.

    Tebow hasn't adjusted to the NFL. He's in a position where the NFL has to adjust to HIM. And as long as they continue to do that...he'll eventually be an afterthought.

    First off, Tim Tebow had a better college career than all those guys.

    Secondly, none of those guys had the intangibles Tim Tebow has 

    And lastly, I wasn’t claiming that because Tim Tebow was great in college that means he’ll be good/able to adjust to the NFL.  Instead I was merely questioning the people that think there is no way one of the three greatest college football players of all time (arguably) will get even a little bit better after his 13th career NFL start.  

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

    JaMarcus Russell was a good college QB. So was Ryan Leaf. And David Carr. As well as Tim Couch and Joey Harrington. Doesn't mean they'll be able to adjust to the NFL.

    Tebow hasn't adjusted to the NFL. He's in a position where the NFL has to adjust to HIM. And as long as they continue to do that...he'll eventually be an afterthought.

    First off, Tim Tebow had a better college career than all those guys.

    Secondly, none of those guys had the intangibles Tim Tebow has 

    And lastly, I wasn’t claiming that because Tim Tebow was great in college that means he’ll be good/able to adjust to the NFL.  Instead I was merely questioning the people that think there is no way one of the three greatest college football players of all time (arguably) will get even a little bit better after his 13th career NFL start.  

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2011 - 10:21 AM ET #1833

    Some threads should just die a natural death--like this one. But since it's not someone give me a gun  so I can put it down. Happy New Year everyone,start something new please.....
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    Some threads should just die a natural death--like this one. But since it's not someone give me a gun  so I can put it down. Happy New Year everyone,start something new please.....
     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2011 - 10:23 AM ET #1834

    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    5 trips to the Super Bowl

    2 Super Bowl rings

    9 Pro Bowls

    16 seasons

    Hall of fame

    I think almost everyone would agree that would be considered a “successful lasting career.”

    Tim Tebow career passer rating: 77.4

    John Elway career passer rating: 79.9

    While not exactly the same it’s pretty close.

    Also Tebow’s rating is over 10 points higher than Elway’s was at this point.

     

      Way to go Shooter!!  You are number 1 in this thread! 
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    Quote Originally Posted by StraightShooter:

    5 trips to the Super Bowl

    2 Super Bowl rings

    9 Pro Bowls

    16 seasons

    Hall of fame

    I think almost everyone would agree that would be considered a “successful lasting career.”

    Tim Tebow career passer rating: 77.4

    John Elway career passer rating: 79.9

    While not exactly the same it’s pretty close.

    Also Tebow’s rating is over 10 points higher than Elway’s was at this point.

     

      Way to go Shooter!!  You are number 1 in this thread! 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2011 - 10:24 AM ET #1835

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

    And if he DOES improve...I'll be fine in saying I was wrong. But I don't see it happening.

    Personally, I don’t think you ever would.

    IMO, he could finish in the top 3 for MVP voting and win the Super Bowl in the same season and you would still find some excuse.  “His teammates did all the work,” “it was a fluke,” etc.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

    And if he DOES improve...I'll be fine in saying I was wrong. But I don't see it happening.

    Personally, I don’t think you ever would.

    IMO, he could finish in the top 3 for MVP voting and win the Super Bowl in the same season and you would still find some excuse.  “His teammates did all the work,” “it was a fluke,” etc.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

    JaMarcus Russell was a good college QB. So was Ryan Leaf. And David Carr. As well as Tim Couch and Joey Harrington. Doesn't mean they'll be able to adjust to the NFL.

    Tebow hasn't adjusted to the NFL. He's in a position where the NFL has to adjust to HIM. And as long as they continue to do that...he'll eventually be an afterthought.

      You are continuing to show your bias. He will never be an afterthought, no matter what happens from here.  Not after what has transpired this year.  You don't get it; never will.  And what good will it do to someday post that you were wrong, after 900 posts insinuating the guy is a bum.
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    JaMarcus Russell was a good college QB. So was Ryan Leaf. And David Carr. As well as Tim Couch and Joey Harrington. Doesn't mean they'll be able to adjust to the NFL.

    Tebow hasn't adjusted to the NFL. He's in a position where the NFL has to adjust to HIM. And as long as they continue to do that...he'll eventually be an afterthought.

      You are continuing to show your bias. He will never be an afterthought, no matter what happens from here.  Not after what has transpired this year.  You don't get it; never will.  And what good will it do to someday post that you were wrong, after 900 posts insinuating the guy is a bum.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2011 - 11:12 AM ET #1837

    [Quote: Originally Posted by rLp]

    Listen, here is a message to all the "haters" (which include myself); Be patient.  Trust me, since Tebow is winning, we are on the losing side of the arguement.  Just sit back, let ESPN and all the Tebow fanatics do their talking.. . And be patient. 

    Over the course of an NFL season, you will play teams that are conservative and then run into a buzz saw of an offense.  Tim Tebow is a good quarterback, but he is terribly inaccurate, and you simply can not win championships with the way he throws the ball.  Can you beat an inept Miami team?  Yep.  Raiders (with a quarterback who just go off the couch?) Yep.  Chiefs (with thier high school offense?) Yep. And so on, and so on...  But you don't play teams like that every week (especially in their terrible division).  So. As of right now, until the Brocons play more teams (like the Lions), the "haters" will be on the losing side.

    Tebow and the Broncos are going to win games.. but they will consistently be around .500.  Hell, the fans were booing in that game (after their 8th straight punt).  My guess is this; The fans love it now, but over the course of the season(s); it will get old.  136 yards of total offense will not cut it and eventually they will get tired of winning, and most of all losing, close ball games. 

    It's all roses and candy now.  But just wait until game after game, they see their team punt... and while doing it, lose against teams that have an actual offense.  It will get really old, really fast for Denver fans.

    So just be patient.

    Tim Tebow is nothing more than a Wildcat QB.  He is outclassed at the position by every other team in the NFL. 

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by rLp]

    Listen, here is a message to all the "haters" (which include myself); Be patient.  Trust me, since Tebow is winning, we are on the losing side of the arguement.  Just sit back, let ESPN and all the Tebow fanatics do their talking.. . And be patient. 

    Over the course of an NFL season, you will play teams that are conservative and then run into a buzz saw of an offense.  Tim Tebow is a good quarterback, but he is terribly inaccurate, and you simply can not win championships with the way he throws the ball.  Can you beat an inept Miami team?  Yep.  Raiders (with a quarterback who just go off the couch?) Yep.  Chiefs (with thier high school offense?) Yep. And so on, and so on...  But you don't play teams like that every week (especially in their terrible division).  So. As of right now, until the Brocons play more teams (like the Lions), the "haters" will be on the losing side.

    Tebow and the Broncos are going to win games.. but they will consistently be around .500.  Hell, the fans were booing in that game (after their 8th straight punt).  My guess is this; The fans love it now, but over the course of the season(s); it will get old.  136 yards of total offense will not cut it and eventually they will get tired of winning, and most of all losing, close ball games. 

    It's all roses and candy now.  But just wait until game after game, they see their team punt... and while doing it, lose against teams that have an actual offense.  It will get really old, really fast for Denver fans.

    So just be patient.

    Tim Tebow is nothing more than a Wildcat QB.  He is outclassed at the position by every other team in the NFL. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 28, 2011 - 11:14 AM ET #1838

    I said it 4 weeks ago.. and it still stands ture..

    Just be patient.

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    I said it 4 weeks ago.. and it still stands ture..

    Just be patient.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by rLp:

    Quote Originally Posted by rLp:

    Listen, here is a message to all the "haters" (which include myself); Be patient.  Trust me, since Tebow is winning, we are on the losing side of the arguement.  Just sit back, let ESPN and all the Tebow fanatics do their talking.. . And be patient. 

    Over the course of an NFL season, you will play teams that are conservative and then run into a buzz saw of an offense.  Tim Tebow is a good quarterback, but he is terribly inaccurate, and you simply can not win championships with the way he throws the ball.  Can you beat an inept Miami team?  Yep.  Raiders (with a quarterback who just go off the couch?) Yep.  Chiefs (with thier high school offense?) Yep. And so on, and so on...  But you don't play teams like that every week (especially in their terrible division).  So. As of right now, until the Brocons play more teams (like the Lions), the "haters" will be on the losing side.

    Tebow and the Broncos are going to win games.. but they will consistently be around .500.  Hell, the fans were booing in that game (after their 8th straight punt).  My guess is this; The fans love it now, but over the course of the season(s); it will get old.  136 yards of total offense will not cut it and eventually they will get tired of winning, and most of all losing, close ball games. 

    It's all roses and candy now.  But just wait until game after game, they see their team punt... and while doing it, lose against teams that have an actual offense.  It will get really old, really fast for Denver fans.

    So just be patient.

    Tim Tebow is nothing more than a Wildcat QB.  He is outclassed at the position by every other team in the NFL. 



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    Quote Originally Posted by rLp:

    Listen, here is a message to all the "haters" (which include myself); Be patient.  Trust me, since Tebow is winning, we are on the losing side of the arguement.  Just sit back, let ESPN and all the Tebow fanatics do their talking.. . And be patient. 

    Over the course of an NFL season, you will play teams that are conservative and then run into a buzz saw of an offense.  Tim Tebow is a good quarterback, but he is terribly inaccurate, and you simply can not win championships with the way he throws the ball.  Can you beat an inept Miami team?  Yep.  Raiders (with a quarterback who just go off the couch?) Yep.  Chiefs (with thier high school offense?) Yep. And so on, and so on...  But you don't play teams like that every week (especially in their terrible division).  So. As of right now, until the Brocons play more teams (like the Lions), the "haters" will be on the losing side.

    Tebow and the Broncos are going to win games.. but they will consistently be around .500.  Hell, the fans were booing in that game (after their 8th straight punt).  My guess is this; The fans love it now, but over the course of the season(s); it will get old.  136 yards of total offense will not cut it and eventually they will get tired of winning, and most of all losing, close ball games. 

    It's all roses and candy now.  But just wait until game after game, they see their team punt... and while doing it, lose against teams that have an actual offense.  It will get really old, really fast for Denver fans.

    So just be patient.

    Tim Tebow is nothing more than a Wildcat QB.  He is outclassed at the position by every other team in the NFL. 



     
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    Tebow is the only QB in the entire NFL with a completion percentage (48%) under 50%.  The only one.  There are no others.  That's he's a Pro Bowl alternate is a mockery.  Bad year for AFC QB's sure, but still.  How about Matt Moore?  Dalton.  Even Flacco.
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    In theory it's possible Tebow could suddenly learn how to throw a football properly, but we know he's a hard worker and so if he hasn't done it by now it seems pretty improbable. 
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    Exactly-

    Dalton is a true rookie QB-  tired of all the mess saying Tebow is a rookie QB- he is a second year QB end of story. I think what people have failed to say is that with his limited skills, what he has done has been amazing! Considering how he lacks accuracy, it is amazing that he has won the games he has won. But i can tell you this won't continue. Maybe he does improve. Hard to say he won't, given his work ethic. Just tired of people thinking he is great when he is not. Rodwoman comes to mind. I don't hate Tebow at all and wish more players were like him( had faith, manners, work ethic, etc) But it is just too early in his career to say that he is great or that he sucks. Just getting tired of all the coverage on Tebow. Brees is the classiest guy in the NFL yet if he hadn't broke Marino's record than almost no one is talking about him. Just amazes me. And Brees carries the Christian faith more so than Tebow. Why the media spotlight on Tebow?

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    Exactly-

    Dalton is a true rookie QB-  tired of all the mess saying Tebow is a rookie QB- he is a second year QB end of story. I think what people have failed to say is that with his limited skills, what he has done has been amazing! Considering how he lacks accuracy, it is amazing that he has won the games he has won. But i can tell you this won't continue. Maybe he does improve. Hard to say he won't, given his work ethic. Just tired of people thinking he is great when he is not. Rodwoman comes to mind. I don't hate Tebow at all and wish more players were like him( had faith, manners, work ethic, etc) But it is just too early in his career to say that he is great or that he sucks. Just getting tired of all the coverage on Tebow. Brees is the classiest guy in the NFL yet if he hadn't broke Marino's record than almost no one is talking about him. Just amazes me. And Brees carries the Christian faith more so than Tebow. Why the media spotlight on Tebow?

     
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    So is that all you guys got to hold onto now? The fact that "Even if he does get good, you (I) won't give him credit"? Is that because you're all starting to realize that his decline is inevitable and looking more and more like a reality instead of a possibility?
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    So is that all you guys got to hold onto now? The fact that "Even if he does get good, you (I) won't give him credit"? Is that because you're all starting to realize that his decline is inevitable and looking more and more like a reality instead of a possibility?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

    So is that all you guys got to hold onto now? The fact that "Even if he does get good, you (I) won't give him credit"? Is that because you're all starting to realize that his decline is inevitable and looking more and more like a reality instead of a possibility?

    It has little to do with what I think Tebow will or won’t do and more to do with your stubbornness and inability to admit when you’re wrong.

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    So is that all you guys got to hold onto now? The fact that "Even if he does get good, you (I) won't give him credit"? Is that because you're all starting to realize that his decline is inevitable and looking more and more like a reality instead of a possibility?

    It has little to do with what I think Tebow will or won’t do and more to do with your stubbornness and inability to admit when you’re wrong.

     
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    Dennis Dixon is yet another QB loser in the mold of Kordell Stewart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rLp:

    Quote Originally Posted by rLp:

    Listen, here is a message to all the "haters" (which include myself); Be patient.  Trust me, since Tebow is winning, we are on the losing side of the arguement.  Just sit back, let ESPN and all the Tebow fanatics do their talking.. . And be patient. 

    Over the course of an NFL season, you will play teams that are conservative and then run into a buzz saw of an offense.  Tim Tebow is a good quarterback, but he is terribly inaccurate, and you simply can not win championships with the way he throws the ball.  Can you beat an inept Miami team?  Yep.  Raiders (with a quarterback who just go off the couch?) Yep.  Chiefs (with thier high school offense?) Yep. And so on, and so on...  But you don't play teams like that every week (especially in their terrible division).  So. As of right now, until the Brocons play more teams (like the Lions), the "haters" will be on the losing side.

    Tebow and the Broncos are going to win games.. but they will consistently be around .500.  Hell, the fans were booing in that game (after their 8th straight punt).  My guess is this; The fans love it now, but over the course of the season(s); it will get old.  136 yards of total offense will not cut it and eventually they will get tired of winning, and most of all losing, close ball games. 

    It's all roses and candy now.  But just wait until game after game, they see their team punt... and while doing it, lose against teams that have an actual offense.  It will get really old, really fast for Denver fans.

    So just be patient.

    Tim Tebow is nothing more than a Wildcat QB.  He is outclassed at the position by every other team in the NFL. 

    Man people are stupid. Chiefs with a high school offense, you know jack about football. The inept team you speak of is the Denver broncos as a team and the broncos won in spite of having inept offensive personnel surrounding tebow. I will break down the offense since you guys are too stupid to do it. The reason they punt so damn much is Eric Decker is not a number one wide receiver or a number two maybe a number three but is playing the number one position. Demaryius Thomas is a number two receiver, but needs time to evolve. He has been injured since entering the league. He needs to learn how to break away from coverage and needs to learn to get open when plays break down. Dante Rosario is a TE playing fullback. Enough said. Chris Clark is a tackle playing tight end. Enough said. Recycled injury prone Willis McGahee who disappears in must win games and will probably disappear this Sunday is always injured. Knowshon Moreno who has been out this season with a torn ACL is the only hope tebow has at getting help in the future. Lance Ball who has been cut four times. Jeremiah Johnson who has been cut three times and is only on the roster because Moreno got hurt. Eddie royal who is always injured and has been a no show this season. He should be the number one target but looks like he has quit playing this season because he only has 19 catches all year. Tebow also has four other practice squad players to work with that are not worth mentioning. A defense that has given up over 123 points the last 4 games and 80+ points the last 2 games. A coach that can’t coach, an offense that’s a laughing stock to the league and still is 7-3 as a starter with a shot at the playoffs with this offense. There is no way in hell he will be successful with these players as his weapons. Tebow had better hope he is traded because this team and his coaching staff are horrible. So to all the tebow believers, miracles do happen, either his team and coaching staff will greatly improve in the offseason, which tebow needs desperately to happen or he will be traded. So just be patient.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rLp:

    Listen, here is a message to all the "haters" (which include myself); Be patient.  Trust me, since Tebow is winning, we are on the losing side of the arguement.  Just sit back, let ESPN and all the Tebow fanatics do their talking.. . And be patient. 

    Over the course of an NFL season, you will play teams that are conservative and then run into a buzz saw of an offense.  Tim Tebow is a good quarterback, but he is terribly inaccurate, and you simply can not win championships with the way he throws the ball.  Can you beat an inept Miami team?  Yep.  Raiders (with a quarterback who just go off the couch?) Yep.  Chiefs (with thier high school offense?) Yep. And so on, and so on...  But you don't play teams like that every week (especially in their terrible division).  So. As of right now, until the Brocons play more teams (like the Lions), the "haters" will be on the losing side.

    Tebow and the Broncos are going to win games.. but they will consistently be around .500.  Hell, the fans were booing in that game (after their 8th straight punt).  My guess is this; The fans love it now, but over the course of the season(s); it will get old.  136 yards of total offense will not cut it and eventually they will get tired of winning, and most of all losing, close ball games. 

    It's all roses and candy now.  But just wait until game after game, they see their team punt... and while doing it, lose against teams that have an actual offense.  It will get really old, really fast for Denver fans.

    So just be patient.

    Tim Tebow is nothing more than a Wildcat QB.  He is outclassed at the position by every other team in the NFL. 

    Man people are stupid. Chiefs with a high school offense, you know jack about football. The inept team you speak of is the Denver broncos as a team and the broncos won in spite of having inept offensive personnel surrounding tebow. I will break down the offense since you guys are too stupid to do it. The reason they punt so damn much is Eric Decker is not a number one wide receiver or a number two maybe a number three but is playing the number one position. Demaryius Thomas is a number two receiver, but needs time to evolve. He has been injured since entering the league. He needs to learn how to break away from coverage and needs to learn to get open when plays break down. Dante Rosario is a TE playing fullback. Enough said. Chris Clark is a tackle playing tight end. Enough said. Recycled injury prone Willis McGahee who disappears in must win games and will probably disappear this Sunday is always injured. Knowshon Moreno who has been out this season with a torn ACL is the only hope tebow has at getting help in the future. Lance Ball who has been cut four times. Jeremiah Johnson who has been cut three times and is only on the roster because Moreno got hurt. Eddie royal who is always injured and has been a no show this season. He should be the number one target but looks like he has quit playing this season because he only has 19 catches all year. Tebow also has four other practice squad players to work with that are not worth mentioning. A defense that has given up over 123 points the last 4 games and 80+ points the last 2 games. A coach that can’t coach, an offense that’s a laughing stock to the league and still is 7-3 as a starter with a shot at the playoffs with this offense. There is no way in hell he will be successful with these players as his weapons. Tebow had better hope he is traded because this team and his coaching staff are horrible. So to all the tebow believers, miracles do happen, either his team and coaching staff will greatly improve in the offseason, which tebow needs desperately to happen or he will be traded. So just be patient.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

    And if he DOES improve...I'll be fine in saying I was wrong. But I don't see it happening.

     

    well then shut the F up until you,me and everyone else ACTUALLY has something to base your bullshit on ...how about that for an idea jagoff....really you just dont get it do you ? you spin anything and everything anybody says to you.....to a view that you think makes you seem correct....but you just look stupid.This is THE N.F.L. and playing quarterback is the hardest position in ALL of sports....as any athlete will tell you....so why dont we sit back and wait ...just like we should do all along...yes the media got a hold of it and they are no better than you....A BUNCH OF TALKING HEADS.....so I suppose TT might be THE VERY FIRST pro athlete that the "know it alls" were either right or wrong about HUH ? just how many first round busts in any sport have there been ? and how many late rounders are in the hall of fame ? just let it play out instead of micro anylizing every breath the guy takes....you my friend are obsessed and wasting more time on thing that will not effect your life whatsoever....really how much time have you taken away from your life in JUST this thread...we all know from your posts that this is not your only outlet to show your hatred toward Tebow....hope you find a life my friend

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    And if he DOES improve...I'll be fine in saying I was wrong. But I don't see it happening.

     

    well then shut the F up until you,me and everyone else ACTUALLY has something to base your bullshit on ...how about that for an idea jagoff....really you just dont get it do you ? you spin anything and everything anybody says to you.....to a view that you think makes you seem correct....but you just look stupid.This is THE N.F.L. and playing quarterback is the hardest position in ALL of sports....as any athlete will tell you....so why dont we sit back and wait ...just like we should do all along...yes the media got a hold of it and they are no better than you....A BUNCH OF TALKING HEADS.....so I suppose TT might be THE VERY FIRST pro athlete that the "know it alls" were either right or wrong about HUH ? just how many first round busts in any sport have there been ? and how many late rounders are in the hall of fame ? just let it play out instead of micro anylizing every breath the guy takes....you my friend are obsessed and wasting more time on thing that will not effect your life whatsoever....really how much time have you taken away from your life in JUST this thread...we all know from your posts that this is not your only outlet to show your hatred toward Tebow....hope you find a life my friend

     
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         I'm rooting for Tebow.  So many people out there saying he sucks... he'll never be good... he can't do this and he can't do that.  And they might be right.  But only time will tell whether or not he succeeds.  Nonetheless, I'm rooting for him.
     
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    https://blog.zap2it.com/pop2it/2011/12/tim-tebow-is-americas-most-wanted-celebrity-neighbor.html

     

    you just cant stand the love can ya old sparky ?

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    you just cant stand the love can ya old sparky ?

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by joboarder:

     

    well then shut the F up until you,me and everyone else ACTUALLY has something to base your bullshit on ...how about that for an idea jagoff....really you just dont get it do you ? you spin anything and everything anybody says to you.....to a view that you think makes you seem correct....but you just look stupid.This is THE N.F.L. and playing quarterback is the hardest position in ALL of sports....as any athlete will tell you....so why dont we sit back and wait ...just like we should do all along...yes the media got a hold of it and they are no better than you....A BUNCH OF TALKING HEADS.....so I suppose TT might be THE VERY FIRST pro athlete that the "know it alls" were either right or wrong about HUH ? just how many first round busts in any sport have there been ? and how many late rounders are in the hall of fame ? just let it play out instead of micro anylizing every breath the guy takes....you my friend are obsessed and wasting more time on thing that will not effect your life whatsoever....really how much time have you taken away from your life in JUST this thread...we all know from your posts that this is not your only outlet to show your hatred toward Tebow....hope you find a life my friend


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    well then shut the F up until you,me and everyone else ACTUALLY has something to base your bullshit on ...how about that for an idea jagoff....really you just dont get it do you ? you spin anything and everything anybody says to you.....to a view that you think makes you seem correct....but you just look stupid.This is THE N.F.L. and playing quarterback is the hardest position in ALL of sports....as any athlete will tell you....so why dont we sit back and wait ...just like we should do all along...yes the media got a hold of it and they are no better than you....A BUNCH OF TALKING HEADS.....so I suppose TT might be THE VERY FIRST pro athlete that the "know it alls" were either right or wrong about HUH ? just how many first round busts in any sport have there been ? and how many late rounders are in the hall of fame ? just let it play out instead of micro anylizing every breath the guy takes....you my friend are obsessed and wasting more time on thing that will not effect your life whatsoever....really how much time have you taken away from your life in JUST this thread...we all know from your posts that this is not your only outlet to show your hatred toward Tebow....hope you find a life my friend


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