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    Spurs vs. Thunder: Game 5 or The Red Wedding

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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 5:05 AM ET #1

    The Spurs are on their last leg, or so they’d like us to think. Train was right (a couple of days ago) when he said/predicted Pop would pull a rope-a-dope against the Thunder in game 4. And the rope-a-dope continued well into the postgame comments, with Manu all but conceding the series: “They’re too big, too fast, too athletic. It will take a perfect game to beat them. Sure, we’ve won big games like this but we’ve also lost them. Etc, etc.” Is this all a strategy to inflate the Thunder’s ego and confidence to the point where they overlook the tired, old, slow and predictable Spurs: a team whose key players are well past their NBA prime? Maybe. If Pop, a military man and a history buff, learned anything from that series two years ago, it’s that the Spurs lost that series when they lost game 5. From the end of game 3 (in this series) to the midway point of game 4, you could already see Pop planning for game 5. He not only rested his starters (something he didn’t do in the previous series) but he also forced the Thunder to play theirs (and that’s to say nothing of the psychological mind games/warfare going on between Pop and his players, and the Thunder). In that series two years ago, the Spurs were down to the Thunder by 10-12 points for most of the 3rd quarter (in game 4), but Pop went for the win in that one, and it cost him dearly. Not only did the Spurs lose that game, but the starters logged heavy minutes. Game 5 came two days later (just like in this year’s series) and the Spurs lost that pivotal game, in a close contest. In a series that is tied 2-2, the winner of game 5 wins the series about 80% of the time. 

    In essence, then, game 5 will be the Spurs’ game 7. They will hold nothing back, in this one. The Spurs will go all out to win this game no matter the cost, in terms of minutes played, or players’ egos, or risk of injury, etc. Pop will throw the kitchen sink at the Thunder in the hopes of confusing them long enough to win this game. Win this game and now you just need one more. Win this game and all the pressure reverts back to the Thunder. Win this game and you guarantee yourself a game 7 at home, where home teams win 80% of the time. Win this game and you wash away the pain of two blowout losses, and the fear that this Thunder team owns you. Win this game and you have a legit shot to make the NBA finals and win the trophy that rightfully belonged to you. And if you lose this game… Oh, there are not enough words in the English language to describe the pain and devastation that this team would feel. Lose this game and the series, as well as a promising season, are, for all intents and purposes, over! The Thunder will have owned you once again, and once again they will have come back from 2 games down to beat you in 4 straight. Game 6 will simply be a formality. If there is anything more painful than that game 5 loss from a couple of years ago for the Spurs, it is how they lost game 6. All but counted out, the Spurs fought valiantly in that game, and should have won it, if not for the fact that every big call went against them. The league had its heart set on a Durant vs. LBJ matchup by that point, and nothing would get in its way; especially not the old, boring Spurs. The Thunder outshot the Spurs 31-18 from the line in that game, which all but sealed their fate. So, this is it, for the Spurs. It’s game 5 or bust. 

    As for the Thunder, well, they are probably telling themselves that they’d be up 3-1, if Ibaka had played the first two games. They also know that even if they lose this game, the next game is at home and that they will likely win that one. The Thunder will come to this game as confidently as Robb Stark attends the Red Wedding at lord Frey’s castle. And we all know how that one ends.

    The Play: Spurs -4

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    The Spurs are on their last leg, or so they’d like us to think. Train was right (a couple of days ago) when he said/predicted Pop would pull a rope-a-dope against the Thunder in game 4. And the rope-a-dope continued well into the postgame comments, with Manu all but conceding the series: “They’re too big, too fast, too athletic. It will take a perfect game to beat them. Sure, we’ve won big games like this but we’ve also lost them. Etc, etc.” Is this all a strategy to inflate the Thunder’s ego and confidence to the point where they overlook the tired, old, slow and predictable Spurs: a team whose key players are well past their NBA prime? Maybe. If Pop, a military man and a history buff, learned anything from that series two years ago, it’s that the Spurs lost that series when they lost game 5. From the end of game 3 (in this series) to the midway point of game 4, you could already see Pop planning for game 5. He not only rested his starters (something he didn’t do in the previous series) but he also forced the Thunder to play theirs (and that’s to say nothing of the psychological mind games/warfare going on between Pop and his players, and the Thunder). In that series two years ago, the Spurs were down to the Thunder by 10-12 points for most of the 3rd quarter (in game 4), but Pop went for the win in that one, and it cost him dearly. Not only did the Spurs lose that game, but the starters logged heavy minutes. Game 5 came two days later (just like in this year’s series) and the Spurs lost that pivotal game, in a close contest. In a series that is tied 2-2, the winner of game 5 wins the series about 80% of the time. 

    In essence, then, game 5 will be the Spurs’ game 7. They will hold nothing back, in this one. The Spurs will go all out to win this game no matter the cost, in terms of minutes played, or players’ egos, or risk of injury, etc. Pop will throw the kitchen sink at the Thunder in the hopes of confusing them long enough to win this game. Win this game and now you just need one more. Win this game and all the pressure reverts back to the Thunder. Win this game and you guarantee yourself a game 7 at home, where home teams win 80% of the time. Win this game and you wash away the pain of two blowout losses, and the fear that this Thunder team owns you. Win this game and you have a legit shot to make the NBA finals and win the trophy that rightfully belonged to you. And if you lose this game… Oh, there are not enough words in the English language to describe the pain and devastation that this team would feel. Lose this game and the series, as well as a promising season, are, for all intents and purposes, over! The Thunder will have owned you once again, and once again they will have come back from 2 games down to beat you in 4 straight. Game 6 will simply be a formality. If there is anything more painful than that game 5 loss from a couple of years ago for the Spurs, it is how they lost game 6. All but counted out, the Spurs fought valiantly in that game, and should have won it, if not for the fact that every big call went against them. The league had its heart set on a Durant vs. LBJ matchup by that point, and nothing would get in its way; especially not the old, boring Spurs. The Thunder outshot the Spurs 31-18 from the line in that game, which all but sealed their fate. So, this is it, for the Spurs. It’s game 5 or bust. 

    As for the Thunder, well, they are probably telling themselves that they’d be up 3-1, if Ibaka had played the first two games. They also know that even if they lose this game, the next game is at home and that they will likely win that one. The Thunder will come to this game as confidently as Robb Stark attends the Red Wedding at lord Frey’s castle. And we all know how that one ends.

    The Play: Spurs -4

     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 5:54 AM ET #2

    Thanks for the right up. Let's go Spurs!
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    Thanks for the right up. Let's go Spurs!
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 6:11 AM ET #3

    home teams only win 80% of the time in game 7's basketball-wise???...surely its higher than that,i thought it was mid-eighties at least
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    home teams only win 80% of the time in game 7's basketball-wise???...surely its higher than that,i thought it was mid-eighties at least
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 6:38 AM ET #4

    spurs 
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    spurs 
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 6:39 AM ET #5

    Careful with this one BB. 

    Thunder show up. This is their game 7 just as Miami will be treating game 6 as a game 7. Niether one of thems wants to play "the real)" game 7 on the road. The Spurs can't win in OKC. OKC wins this they close them out in Game 6 at home. 

    They're coming in hot.... bad news for the Spurs. 
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    Careful with this one BB. 

    Thunder show up. This is their game 7 just as Miami will be treating game 6 as a game 7. Niether one of thems wants to play "the real)" game 7 on the road. The Spurs can't win in OKC. OKC wins this they close them out in Game 6 at home. 

    They're coming in hot.... bad news for the Spurs. 
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 6:42 AM ET #6

    Nice writeup, love the GOT reference. I definitely think the Spurs know this is their season/end of their era on the line here. I just don't know if they have it in them to win. The Spur's 0fer in the last 7 or 9 vs. OKC with Ibaka is a pretty strong stat. OKC knows the game 7 stats too and undoubtedly wants to get this over with here too to avoid another game in SA.  
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    Nice writeup, love the GOT reference. I definitely think the Spurs know this is their season/end of their era on the line here. I just don't know if they have it in them to win. The Spur's 0fer in the last 7 or 9 vs. OKC with Ibaka is a pretty strong stat. OKC knows the game 7 stats too and undoubtedly wants to get this over with here too to avoid another game in SA.  
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 8:31 AM ET #7

    I didn't think Ibaka was a factor but after watching the last few games Ibaka made all the difference in the world. I can't lay 4 to 4.5 but I'm likin the under a lot.
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    I didn't think Ibaka was a factor but after watching the last few games Ibaka made all the difference in the world. I can't lay 4 to 4.5 but I'm likin the under a lot.
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 8:47 AM ET #8

    I don't trust this pick as the one I trusted you had with Indiana ...
    I suggest you bet in live or don't bet at all ...

    My feeling: OKC +4

    I think this would be one of those games where the team to cover would actually need the spread itself, so it would be SAS BEHIND OKC by 4 points towards the end.

    Take OKC ML or OKC +4.

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    I don't trust this pick as the one I trusted you had with Indiana ...
    I suggest you bet in live or don't bet at all ...

    My feeling: OKC +4

    I think this would be one of those games where the team to cover would actually need the spread itself, so it would be SAS BEHIND OKC by 4 points towards the end.

    Take OKC ML or OKC +4.

     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 8:54 AM ET #9

    The nuanced cap, not only noting the 4 game comeback by OKC in 2012 but how Pop wore out his crew in game 4 that year (very key), noting precisely the opposite occurred this year in game 4 where the starters were pulled at the beginning of the third, is what makes for exquisite 'larger scope' capping, even going as far as to intertwine Pop's military credentials!

    I fully endorse the write-up and pick.
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    The nuanced cap, not only noting the 4 game comeback by OKC in 2012 but how Pop wore out his crew in game 4 that year (very key), noting precisely the opposite occurred this year in game 4 where the starters were pulled at the beginning of the third, is what makes for exquisite 'larger scope' capping, even going as far as to intertwine Pop's military credentials!

    I fully endorse the write-up and pick.
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 9:19 AM ET #10

    I said this in LC's thread and want to reiterate here as your OP will be the board's primary write-up:




    With regard to the minutes played issue for OKC:

    If you said the above at game 47 (i.e. Durant and West always play a lot if minutes so you're not worried about last night's minutes logged for OKC) or sometime thereabouts during the season, I'd shrug and say, he's got a point.

    For all the conditioning the Thunder's big two have logging heavy minutes all season, Brooks decided to give his second most valuable player, a guy who the series hinges on with Ibaka back, 45 minutes (which is essentially an entire game from start to finish).

    Except it's not game 47.

    It's game 100. (82 + 7 first round + 6 second round + 5 this series)

    At some point, it's going to catch up to you.

    And even if it doesn't, it speaks to how Injured Jackson really was as the Thunder have no true backup of behind West when Reggie is out so he kept west in the entire game. And west played like a bat out of hell the entire game, gassing himself even further, padding a stat line that lead all tv/radio/web headlines.

    Either way, this is a negative, and a significant one going on the road facing a Spurs team who will do anything and everything to take game 5 as Bb noted (and speaks to why you are teasing the game up instead of just taking the points for that extra insurance).
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    I said this in LC's thread and want to reiterate here as your OP will be the board's primary write-up:




    With regard to the minutes played issue for OKC:

    If you said the above at game 47 (i.e. Durant and West always play a lot if minutes so you're not worried about last night's minutes logged for OKC) or sometime thereabouts during the season, I'd shrug and say, he's got a point.

    For all the conditioning the Thunder's big two have logging heavy minutes all season, Brooks decided to give his second most valuable player, a guy who the series hinges on with Ibaka back, 45 minutes (which is essentially an entire game from start to finish).

    Except it's not game 47.

    It's game 100. (82 + 7 first round + 6 second round + 5 this series)

    At some point, it's going to catch up to you.

    And even if it doesn't, it speaks to how Injured Jackson really was as the Thunder have no true backup of behind West when Reggie is out so he kept west in the entire game. And west played like a bat out of hell the entire game, gassing himself even further, padding a stat line that lead all tv/radio/web headlines.

    Either way, this is a negative, and a significant one going on the road facing a Spurs team who will do anything and everything to take game 5 as Bb noted (and speaks to why you are teasing the game up instead of just taking the points for that extra insurance).
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 9:48 AM ET #11

    good luck...
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    good luck...
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 10:04 AM ET #12

    Love the write up and the spurs. For me its quite simple: This is the spurs, with a great coach, great veterans, and a great all around team. They wont lose 4 in a row to the thunder. And that would happen if the lose today. NO WAY. The spurs are intelligent enough and know whats going on. Theres no need to overreact after two losses. No need to be desperate. They know the business better than anyone else. Give me parker today, give me duncan. No way westbrook and durant will shoot the ball that well in san antonio. Specially high IQ westbrook will come back to earth.

    Thanks for your write up, beginnerboy. Appreciate it.
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    Love the write up and the spurs. For me its quite simple: This is the spurs, with a great coach, great veterans, and a great all around team. They wont lose 4 in a row to the thunder. And that would happen if the lose today. NO WAY. The spurs are intelligent enough and know whats going on. Theres no need to overreact after two losses. No need to be desperate. They know the business better than anyone else. Give me parker today, give me duncan. No way westbrook and durant will shoot the ball that well in san antonio. Specially high IQ westbrook will come back to earth.

    Thanks for your write up, beginnerboy. Appreciate it.
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 10:05 AM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:

    The Spurs are on their last leg, or so they’d like us to think. Train was right (a couple of days ago) when he said/predicted Pop would pull a rope-a-dope against the Thunder in game 4. And the rope-a-dope continued well into the postgame comments, with Manu all but conceding the series: “They’re too big, too fast, too athletic. It will take a perfect game to beat them. Sure, we’ve won big games like this but we’ve also lost them. Etc, etc.” Is this all a strategy to inflate the Thunder’s ego and confidence to the point where they overlook the tired, old, slow and predictable Spurs: a team whose key players are well past their NBA prime? Maybe. If Pop, a military man and a history buff, learned anything from that series two years ago, it’s that the Spurs lost that series when they lost game 5. From the end of game 3 (in this series) to the midway point of game 4, you could already see Pop planning for game 5. He not only rested his starters (something he didn’t do in the previous series) but he also forced the Thunder to play theirs (and that’s to say nothing of the psychological mind games/warfare going on between Pop and his players, and the Thunder). In that series two years ago, the Spurs were down to the Thunder by 10-12 points for most of the 3rd quarter (in game 4), but Pop went for the win in that one, and it cost him dearly. Not only did the Spurs lose that game, but the starters logged heavy minutes. Game 5 came two days later (just like in this year’s series) and the Spurs lost that pivotal game, in a close contest. In a series that is tied 2-2, the winner of game 5 wins the series about 80% of the time. 

    In essence, then, game 5 will be the Spurs’ game 7. They will hold nothing back, in this one. The Spurs will go all out to win this game no matter the cost, in terms of minutes played, or players’ egos, or risk of injury, etc. Pop will throw the kitchen sink at the Thunder in the hopes of confusing them long enough to win this game. Win this game and now you just need one more. Win this game and all the pressure reverts back to the Thunder. Win this game and you guarantee yourself a game 7 at home, where home teams win 80% of the time. Win this game and you wash away the pain of two blowout losses, and the fear that this Thunder team owns you. Win this game and you have a legit shot to make the NBA finals and win the trophy that rightfully belonged to you. And if you lose this game… Oh, there are not enough words in the English language to describe the pain and devastation that this team would feel. Lose this game and the series, as well as a promising season, are, for all intents and purposes, over! The Thunder will have owned you once again, and once again they will have come back from 2 games down to beat you in 4 straight. Game 6 will simply be a formality. If there is anything more painful than that game 5 loss from a couple of years ago for the Spurs, it is how they lost game 6. All but counted out, the Spurs fought valiantly in that game, and should have won it, if not for the fact that every big call went against them. The league had its heart set on a Durant vs. LBJ matchup by that point, and nothing would get in its way; especially not the old, boring Spurs. The Thunder outshot the Spurs 31-18 from the line in that game, which all but sealed their fate. So, this is it, for the Spurs. It’s game 5 or bust. 

    As for the Thunder, well, they are probably telling themselves that they’d be up 3-1, if Ibaka had played the first two games. They also know that even if they lose this game, the next game is at home and that they will likely win that one. The Thunder will come to this game as confidently as Robb Stark attends the Red Wedding at lord Frey’s castle. And we all know how that one ends.

    The Play: Spurs -4



    Again, loving the write up!
    Secondly a GOT reference. I'm a huge GOT fan
    3rdly leaning Spurs myself and you mirror my exact sentiments about them!

    Kudos mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:

    The Spurs are on their last leg, or so they’d like us to think. Train was right (a couple of days ago) when he said/predicted Pop would pull a rope-a-dope against the Thunder in game 4. And the rope-a-dope continued well into the postgame comments, with Manu all but conceding the series: “They’re too big, too fast, too athletic. It will take a perfect game to beat them. Sure, we’ve won big games like this but we’ve also lost them. Etc, etc.” Is this all a strategy to inflate the Thunder’s ego and confidence to the point where they overlook the tired, old, slow and predictable Spurs: a team whose key players are well past their NBA prime? Maybe. If Pop, a military man and a history buff, learned anything from that series two years ago, it’s that the Spurs lost that series when they lost game 5. From the end of game 3 (in this series) to the midway point of game 4, you could already see Pop planning for game 5. He not only rested his starters (something he didn’t do in the previous series) but he also forced the Thunder to play theirs (and that’s to say nothing of the psychological mind games/warfare going on between Pop and his players, and the Thunder). In that series two years ago, the Spurs were down to the Thunder by 10-12 points for most of the 3rd quarter (in game 4), but Pop went for the win in that one, and it cost him dearly. Not only did the Spurs lose that game, but the starters logged heavy minutes. Game 5 came two days later (just like in this year’s series) and the Spurs lost that pivotal game, in a close contest. In a series that is tied 2-2, the winner of game 5 wins the series about 80% of the time. 

    In essence, then, game 5 will be the Spurs’ game 7. They will hold nothing back, in this one. The Spurs will go all out to win this game no matter the cost, in terms of minutes played, or players’ egos, or risk of injury, etc. Pop will throw the kitchen sink at the Thunder in the hopes of confusing them long enough to win this game. Win this game and now you just need one more. Win this game and all the pressure reverts back to the Thunder. Win this game and you guarantee yourself a game 7 at home, where home teams win 80% of the time. Win this game and you wash away the pain of two blowout losses, and the fear that this Thunder team owns you. Win this game and you have a legit shot to make the NBA finals and win the trophy that rightfully belonged to you. And if you lose this game… Oh, there are not enough words in the English language to describe the pain and devastation that this team would feel. Lose this game and the series, as well as a promising season, are, for all intents and purposes, over! The Thunder will have owned you once again, and once again they will have come back from 2 games down to beat you in 4 straight. Game 6 will simply be a formality. If there is anything more painful than that game 5 loss from a couple of years ago for the Spurs, it is how they lost game 6. All but counted out, the Spurs fought valiantly in that game, and should have won it, if not for the fact that every big call went against them. The league had its heart set on a Durant vs. LBJ matchup by that point, and nothing would get in its way; especially not the old, boring Spurs. The Thunder outshot the Spurs 31-18 from the line in that game, which all but sealed their fate. So, this is it, for the Spurs. It’s game 5 or bust. 

    As for the Thunder, well, they are probably telling themselves that they’d be up 3-1, if Ibaka had played the first two games. They also know that even if they lose this game, the next game is at home and that they will likely win that one. The Thunder will come to this game as confidently as Robb Stark attends the Red Wedding at lord Frey’s castle. And we all know how that one ends.

    The Play: Spurs -4



    Again, loving the write up!
    Secondly a GOT reference. I'm a huge GOT fan
    3rdly leaning Spurs myself and you mirror my exact sentiments about them!

    Kudos mate.

     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 10:08 AM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    I said this in LC's thread and want to reiterate here as your OP will be the board's primary write-up:




    With regard to the minutes played issue for OKC:

    If you said the above at game 47 (i.e. Durant and West always play a lot if minutes so you're not worried about last night's minutes logged for OKC) or sometime thereabouts during the season, I'd shrug and say, he's got a point.

    For all the conditioning the Thunder's big two have logging heavy minutes all season, Brooks decided to give his second most valuable player, a guy who the series hinges on with Ibaka back, 45 minutes (which is essentially an entire game from start to finish).

    Except it's not game 47.

    It's game 100. (82 + 7 first round + 6 second round + 5 this series)

    At some point, it's going to catch up to you.

    And even if it doesn't, it speaks to how Injured Jackson really was as the Thunder have no true backup of behind West when Reggie is out so he kept west in the entire game. And west played like a bat out of hell the entire game, gassing himself even further, padding a stat line that lead all tv/radio/web headlines.

    Either way, this is a negative, and a significant one going on the road facing a Spurs team who will do anything and everything to take game 5 as Bb noted (and speaks to why you are teasing the game up instead of just taking the points for that extra insurance).







    DUDE DURANT IS 25 years OLD !!!!!!!!


    are you even kidding here ?


    DUncan is almost 39yrs old LOL        WHO IS TIRED 


    I REPEAT "WHO IS TIRED"



    Ducan is saying get me home already to the off season my knees hurt like hell 


    Durant is blood thirsty and you are talking of 45 minutes HOLY garbage HOLY garbage WOW!



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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    I said this in LC's thread and want to reiterate here as your OP will be the board's primary write-up:




    With regard to the minutes played issue for OKC:

    If you said the above at game 47 (i.e. Durant and West always play a lot if minutes so you're not worried about last night's minutes logged for OKC) or sometime thereabouts during the season, I'd shrug and say, he's got a point.

    For all the conditioning the Thunder's big two have logging heavy minutes all season, Brooks decided to give his second most valuable player, a guy who the series hinges on with Ibaka back, 45 minutes (which is essentially an entire game from start to finish).

    Except it's not game 47.

    It's game 100. (82 + 7 first round + 6 second round + 5 this series)

    At some point, it's going to catch up to you.

    And even if it doesn't, it speaks to how Injured Jackson really was as the Thunder have no true backup of behind West when Reggie is out so he kept west in the entire game. And west played like a bat out of hell the entire game, gassing himself even further, padding a stat line that lead all tv/radio/web headlines.

    Either way, this is a negative, and a significant one going on the road facing a Spurs team who will do anything and everything to take game 5 as Bb noted (and speaks to why you are teasing the game up instead of just taking the points for that extra insurance).







    DUDE DURANT IS 25 years OLD !!!!!!!!


    are you even kidding here ?


    DUncan is almost 39yrs old LOL        WHO IS TIRED 


    I REPEAT "WHO IS TIRED"



    Ducan is saying get me home already to the off season my knees hurt like hell 


    Durant is blood thirsty and you are talking of 45 minutes HOLY garbage HOLY garbage WOW!



     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 10:09 AM ET #15

    Series will end tonight for the old men 



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    Series will end tonight for the old men 



     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 10:10 AM ET #16

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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 10:58 AM ET #17

    Question is how much POP can adjust after 4 games ... 

    To me its simple Ibaka is healthy and plays OKC win ... Ibaka isnt healthy and doesnt play SA prevails ...

    Ibaka is San Antonio Kryptonite ...
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    Question is how much POP can adjust after 4 games ... 

    To me its simple Ibaka is healthy and plays OKC win ... Ibaka isnt healthy and doesnt play SA prevails ...

    Ibaka is San Antonio Kryptonite ...
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 11:08 AM ET #18

    BET UR HOUSE INM SPUR TONIT

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    BET UR HOUSE INM SPUR TONIT

     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 11:09 AM ET #19

    Great write-up BB... probably one of the best I've ever read on covers.  

    Small pt re this comment: Series will end tonight for the old men  from Gavinnick - I thought this was a best of 7 series.  Weird that it will end tonight if the Spurs lose.  Is this a new NBA rule?  
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    Great write-up BB... probably one of the best I've ever read on covers.  

    Small pt re this comment: Series will end tonight for the old men  from Gavinnick - I thought this was a best of 7 series.  Weird that it will end tonight if the Spurs lose.  Is this a new NBA rule?  
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 11:23 AM ET #20

    Good thoughts BB and Scal, I actually agree with you. Even though game 7s are mostly won by the home team, I think the Thunder have a better chance of winning a game 7 in SA then tonight. The Spurs havn't made one energy-draining run in the last two games besides the one in game 4 by the bench, there completely rested. I think there shots are going to start falling tonight.

    However, the Thunder are 13-1 ATS last 14 games against the Spurs with Ibaka in the lineup. That is just something I can not bet against.

    Also Scal on the minutes factor, I've watched this team for years. Trust me, they won't be affected by those long minutes. Even now that it's in the playoffs and 100 games in.

    Let's look at how Westbrook has played in the playoffs after logging long minutes.

    Russ has played 4 games this playoffs logging 43 or more minutes. In the 4 games following:

    • 30 points 13 rebounds 2 assists 1 steal
    • 30 points 10 rebounds 13 assists 1 steal 1 block (triple double)
    • 25 points 9 rebounds 7 assists 3 steals (+- of +21)
    • 19 points 3 rebounds 12 assists 2 steals (this game Durant went off for 40 and Westbrook wasn't needed as much)
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    Good thoughts BB and Scal, I actually agree with you. Even though game 7s are mostly won by the home team, I think the Thunder have a better chance of winning a game 7 in SA then tonight. The Spurs havn't made one energy-draining run in the last two games besides the one in game 4 by the bench, there completely rested. I think there shots are going to start falling tonight.

    However, the Thunder are 13-1 ATS last 14 games against the Spurs with Ibaka in the lineup. That is just something I can not bet against.

    Also Scal on the minutes factor, I've watched this team for years. Trust me, they won't be affected by those long minutes. Even now that it's in the playoffs and 100 games in.

    Let's look at how Westbrook has played in the playoffs after logging long minutes.

    Russ has played 4 games this playoffs logging 43 or more minutes. In the 4 games following:

    • 30 points 13 rebounds 2 assists 1 steal
    • 30 points 10 rebounds 13 assists 1 steal 1 block (triple double)
    • 25 points 9 rebounds 7 assists 3 steals (+- of +21)
    • 19 points 3 rebounds 12 assists 2 steals (this game Durant went off for 40 and Westbrook wasn't needed as much)
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 11:24 AM ET #21

    SMP 

    watch it and learn it series is over tonight because Saturday Night IN OKC is the Thunder night at the energy stadium 
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    watch it and learn it series is over tonight because Saturday Night IN OKC is the Thunder night at the energy stadium 
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 12:14 PM ET #22

    You're over thinking just like i was. 

    Spurs get cracked tonight. They will come in hot on  that huge streak. Less time off the better they play. More time off the worse they play.

    Ibaka ended up being a huge game changer. Without ibaka okc other bigs are essentially worthless. they get sliced up and shredded by the spurs. But ibaka is too fast too big too quick footed and too muscular for the spurs. He covers 20 feet with 2 steps. So now you can get away with playing idiots like Perkins and hasheem handset. Ibaka is so good defensively that they can never cleanly get by him so when they do perkins and others are already there for support. 

    Without ibaka spurs get clean looks so even if o kc plays two bigs they care useless as mentioned. With ibaka they know how have huge value. 

    Reggie Jackson is good to go he will have pieces to move s round and Reggie will drop 20+ tonight  along with Durant 30 Westbrook 25 and ibaka around 15. That's 90 points between them ALONE. easily possible

    They're coming in on a heater. Spurs can't outscored them anymore. 
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    You're over thinking just like i was. 

    Spurs get cracked tonight. They will come in hot on  that huge streak. Less time off the better they play. More time off the worse they play.

    Ibaka ended up being a huge game changer. Without ibaka okc other bigs are essentially worthless. they get sliced up and shredded by the spurs. But ibaka is too fast too big too quick footed and too muscular for the spurs. He covers 20 feet with 2 steps. So now you can get away with playing idiots like Perkins and hasheem handset. Ibaka is so good defensively that they can never cleanly get by him so when they do perkins and others are already there for support. 

    Without ibaka spurs get clean looks so even if o kc plays two bigs they care useless as mentioned. With ibaka they know how have huge value. 

    Reggie Jackson is good to go he will have pieces to move s round and Reggie will drop 20+ tonight  along with Durant 30 Westbrook 25 and ibaka around 15. That's 90 points between them ALONE. easily possible

    They're coming in on a heater. Spurs can't outscored them anymore. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneCam27:

    You're over thinking just like i was. 

    Spurs get cracked tonight. They will come in hot on  that huge streak. Less time off the better they play. More time off the worse they play.

    Ibaka ended up being a huge game changer. Without ibaka okc other bigs are essentially worthless. they get sliced up and shredded by the spurs. But ibaka is too fast too big too quick footed and too muscular for the spurs. He covers 20 feet with 2 steps. So now you can get away with playing idiots like Perkins and hasheem handset. Ibaka is so good defensively that they can never cleanly get by him so when they do perkins and others are already there for support. 

    Without ibaka spurs get clean looks so even if o kc plays two bigs they care useless as mentioned. With ibaka they know how have huge value. 

    Reggie Jackson is good to go he will have pieces to move s round and Reggie will drop 20+ tonight  along with Durant 30 Westbrook 25 and ibaka around 15. That's 90 points between them ALONE. easily possible

    They're coming in on a heater. Spurs can't outscored them anymore. 

    Gene, you sound like Manu after game 4. Sometimes you gotta lose the battle to win the war. Have you heard of a smokescreen? Don't believe everything you see. The Thunder are thinking the exact same thing you are right now, because Pop helped them think that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneCam27:

    You're over thinking just like i was. 

    Spurs get cracked tonight. They will come in hot on  that huge streak. Less time off the better they play. More time off the worse they play.

    Ibaka ended up being a huge game changer. Without ibaka okc other bigs are essentially worthless. they get sliced up and shredded by the spurs. But ibaka is too fast too big too quick footed and too muscular for the spurs. He covers 20 feet with 2 steps. So now you can get away with playing idiots like Perkins and hasheem handset. Ibaka is so good defensively that they can never cleanly get by him so when they do perkins and others are already there for support. 

    Without ibaka spurs get clean looks so even if o kc plays two bigs they care useless as mentioned. With ibaka they know how have huge value. 

    Reggie Jackson is good to go he will have pieces to move s round and Reggie will drop 20+ tonight  along with Durant 30 Westbrook 25 and ibaka around 15. That's 90 points between them ALONE. easily possible

    They're coming in on a heater. Spurs can't outscored them anymore. 

    Gene, you sound like Manu after game 4. Sometimes you gotta lose the battle to win the war. Have you heard of a smokescreen? Don't believe everything you see. The Thunder are thinking the exact same thing you are right now, because Pop helped them think that.
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 1:48 PM ET #24

    Spurs win 107 - 94.

    Spurs... tired, old.           
    OKC... MVP KD, Ibaka, Westbrook.  I think the Spurs do it tonight.
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    Spurs win 107 - 94.

    Spurs... tired, old.           
    OKC... MVP KD, Ibaka, Westbrook.  I think the Spurs do it tonight.
     
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2014 - 1:57 PM ET #25

    BB -- look at the refs for tonight -- here are the stats Alecboyh pasted...

    OKC IS 24-6 SU AND 18-12 ATS IN GAMES REFFED BY BROTHERS, GOBLE AND MCCUTCHEN COMBINED ...

    SA IS 18-12 SU AND 15-15 ATS IN GAMES REFFED BY BROTHER, GOBLE AND MCCUTCHEN COMBINED ...

    OKC IS 10-0 SU IN GAMES REFFED BY TONY BROTHERS

    5 - 9.5 HOME FAVORITES ARE 27 - 49 ATS WHEN TONIGHTS CREW (BROTHERS,MCCUTCHEN, GOBLE) IS REFFING

    SO THE ROAD UNDERDOG COVERS AT A 64.5% RATE ...

    2014 PLAYOFF WISE :

    OKC IS 5-2 SU AND 4-3 ATS IN GAMES REFFED BY BROTHERS, GOBLE AND MCCUTCHEN COMBINED ...

    SA IS 2-3 SU AND 2-3 ATS IN GAMES REFFED BY BROTHER, GOBLE AND MCCUTCHEN COMBINED ...

    We may be headed to two series ending in 6.
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    BB -- look at the refs for tonight -- here are the stats Alecboyh pasted...

    OKC IS 24-6 SU AND 18-12 ATS IN GAMES REFFED BY BROTHERS, GOBLE AND MCCUTCHEN COMBINED ...

    SA IS 18-12 SU AND 15-15 ATS IN GAMES REFFED BY BROTHER, GOBLE AND MCCUTCHEN COMBINED ...

    OKC IS 10-0 SU IN GAMES REFFED BY TONY BROTHERS

    5 - 9.5 HOME FAVORITES ARE 27 - 49 ATS WHEN TONIGHTS CREW (BROTHERS,MCCUTCHEN, GOBLE) IS REFFING

    SO THE ROAD UNDERDOG COVERS AT A 64.5% RATE ...

    2014 PLAYOFF WISE :

    OKC IS 5-2 SU AND 4-3 ATS IN GAMES REFFED BY BROTHERS, GOBLE AND MCCUTCHEN COMBINED ...

    SA IS 2-3 SU AND 2-3 ATS IN GAMES REFFED BY BROTHER, GOBLE AND MCCUTCHEN COMBINED ...

    We may be headed to two series ending in 6.
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