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    Kobe deserves better

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    LuisNani
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    Posted: May. 11, 2012 - 1:48 AM ET #1

    I hope LA either makes trades to improve them as a team or allows Kobe to go elsewhere. Maybe go to the Bulls team up with Rose that be the most dominant back court in the NBA. 

    Kobe deserves better and he can't wait forever. Either make the moves or allow him to go. Players like Blake, Gasol and Barnes are awful. Bynum lazy ass. Sessions is good without ever being great.

    Brown is one dumb ass coach.
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    I hope LA either makes trades to improve them as a team or allows Kobe to go elsewhere. Maybe go to the Bulls team up with Rose that be the most dominant back court in the NBA. 

    Kobe deserves better and he can't wait forever. Either make the moves or allow him to go. Players like Blake, Gasol and Barnes are awful. Bynum lazy ass. Sessions is good without ever being great.

    Brown is one dumb ass coach.
     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2012 - 1:48 AM ET #2

    No he doesn't, screw Kobe and the Lakers.
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    No he doesn't, screw Kobe and the Lakers.
     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2012 - 1:53 AM ET #3

    Kobe has been carried 4 out of 5 championships and the media has convinced plenty of people that he's a top ten player of all time. And you still think he deserves better?
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    Kobe has been carried 4 out of 5 championships and the media has convinced plenty of people that he's a top ten player of all time. And you still think he deserves better?
     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2012 - 1:54 AM ET #4

    dont count out a possible trade despite what the lakers accomplish these playoffs, keeping the trio of kgb isn't really financially feasible if lakers wanted to remain competitive 

    this is because of the new cba agreement luxury taxes and the lakers lack of flexibility in terms of cap space

    kgb pretty much eats up the entire teams cap space, (also why you heard pau or bynum being possibly traded earlier in season, its partially due to financial reasons  no team wants to pay the death tax with new cba approaching)
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    dont count out a possible trade despite what the lakers accomplish these playoffs, keeping the trio of kgb isn't really financially feasible if lakers wanted to remain competitive 

    this is because of the new cba agreement luxury taxes and the lakers lack of flexibility in terms of cap space

    kgb pretty much eats up the entire teams cap space, (also why you heard pau or bynum being possibly traded earlier in season, its partially due to financial reasons  no team wants to pay the death tax with new cba approaching)
     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2012 - 1:58 AM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by trying2makeabuk:

    Kobe has been carried 4 out of 5 championships and the media has convinced plenty of people that he's a top ten player of all time. And you still think he deserves better?

    carried as in had help right? 
    pau when he was back in memphis didnt win a championship and I'm pretty sure no one would argue that memphis had a better bench than lakers then and still now, lakers past championships bynum hasn't really contributed, 1) injured 2) more of a third option or 4th after pau/and or odom

    mj who many many more consider the top all time or at least top 5, had pippen and rodman (both no slouches, rodman esp, ridiculous rebounder)

    so I think every player has been "carried" if you mean by had help 


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    Quote Originally Posted by trying2makeabuk:

    Kobe has been carried 4 out of 5 championships and the media has convinced plenty of people that he's a top ten player of all time. And you still think he deserves better?

    carried as in had help right? 
    pau when he was back in memphis didnt win a championship and I'm pretty sure no one would argue that memphis had a better bench than lakers then and still now, lakers past championships bynum hasn't really contributed, 1) injured 2) more of a third option or 4th after pau/and or odom

    mj who many many more consider the top all time or at least top 5, had pippen and rodman (both no slouches, rodman esp, ridiculous rebounder)

    so I think every player has been "carried" if you mean by had help 


     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2012 - 1:59 AM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by trying2makeabuk:

    Kobe has been carried 4 out of 5 championships and the media has convinced plenty of people that he's a top ten player of all time. And you still think he deserves better?

    Haters always going to hate. 

    I rather listen to the players who play in the NBA and their opinion on the black mamba. He is one of the most feared players in the game. Players rate him as the best playing in the game, so what the hell does your opinion matter, your probably one of those who thinks Wade is better.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anoqbgOZrEg&feature=related
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    Quote Originally Posted by trying2makeabuk:

    Kobe has been carried 4 out of 5 championships and the media has convinced plenty of people that he's a top ten player of all time. And you still think he deserves better?

    Haters always going to hate. 

    I rather listen to the players who play in the NBA and their opinion on the black mamba. He is one of the most feared players in the game. Players rate him as the best playing in the game, so what the hell does your opinion matter, your probably one of those who thinks Wade is better.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anoqbgOZrEg&feature=related
     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2012 - 1:59 AM ET #7

    Lakers have somewhere between 8 to 10 milionto spend  in the Odom trade that must be used buy I think Dec.
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    Lakers have somewhere between 8 to 10 milionto spend  in the Odom trade that must be used buy I think Dec.
     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2012 - 2:00 AM ET #8

    Nah.
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    Nah.
     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2012 - 2:03 AM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by trying2makeabuk:

    Kobe has been carried 4 out of 5 championships and the media has convinced plenty of people that he's a top ten player of all time. And you still think he deserves better?


    Hilarious. MJ had Pippen too, do you question he was the best of all time? Can you even keep a straight face after writing that bunch of garbage? Man, i've seen some pretty stupid shit written in this forum, but that is by far on my top 10.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trying2makeabuk:

    Kobe has been carried 4 out of 5 championships and the media has convinced plenty of people that he's a top ten player of all time. And you still think he deserves better?


    Hilarious. MJ had Pippen too, do you question he was the best of all time? Can you even keep a straight face after writing that bunch of garbage? Man, i've seen some pretty stupid shit written in this forum, but that is by far on my top 10.
     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2012 - 2:04 AM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by trying2makeabuk:

    Kobe has been carried 4 out of 5 championships and the media has convinced plenty of people that he's a top ten player of all time. And you still think he deserves better?

    Wow what a hater ho you are. Must be a sting ray. Haters of the animal kingdom

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    Quote Originally Posted by trying2makeabuk:

    Kobe has been carried 4 out of 5 championships and the media has convinced plenty of people that he's a top ten player of all time. And you still think he deserves better?

    Wow what a hater ho you are. Must be a sting ray. Haters of the animal kingdom

     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2012 - 2:05 AM ET #11

    16 yrs in NBA 3 more than Jordan settle down Lakers are going to be good as long as Koby is there
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    16 yrs in NBA 3 more than Jordan settle down Lakers are going to be good as long as Koby is there
     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2012 - 2:13 AM ET #12

    Fuck Kobe L.A Thru That Game To Win It At Home ! And fucked All The Under Betters And The Proccess !
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    Fuck Kobe L.A Thru That Game To Win It At Home ! And fucked All The Under Betters And The Proccess !
     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2012 - 2:13 AM ET #13

    Mj had popped but everybody knew who ran that team. Kobe didnt dominate like shaq in the threepeat. Kobe dominated his 4th ring and was bailed out plenty of times during his 5th ring. Fuck off Kobe slurpers
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    Mj had popped but everybody knew who ran that team. Kobe didnt dominate like shaq in the threepeat. Kobe dominated his 4th ring and was bailed out plenty of times during his 5th ring. Fuck off Kobe slurpers
     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2012 - 2:54 AM ET #14

    pippen* damn auto correction.
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    pippen* damn auto correction.
     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2012 - 2:55 AM ET #15

    Package of Bynum, Gasol, and Metta World Piss for Dwight Howard.  
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    Package of Bynum, Gasol, and Metta World Piss for Dwight Howard.  
     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2012 - 2:55 AM ET #16

    Man, I don't even know if you can get a washing machine for Gasol anymore.  
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    Man, I don't even know if you can get a washing machine for Gasol anymore.  
     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2012 - 2:59 AM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikado:

    Man, I don't even know if you can get a washing machine for Gasol anymore.  
       hey mikado wat part of colorado u from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikado:

    Man, I don't even know if you can get a washing machine for Gasol anymore.  
       hey mikado wat part of colorado u from?

     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2012 - 3:06 AM ET #18

    you can say Kobe was Robin to Shaq's Batman for the 1st 3 championships. But who carried Kobe against Orlando and Boston?

    Kobe's got maybe 2 solid years left before he should hang up his Nikes. I'm not about to wait that long for Andrew to grow up. Dwight's stock should have dropped low enough that the Lakers should be able to dangle Bynum and the trade exception to get a Dwight Howard who is also coming off back surgery.

    Its wishful thinking, but Kobe could solve a lot of problems if he would just sit down with Laker management and restructure his contract. He's about to make 30 million a year the next 2 years. I don't care who the GM is, thats gotta be a huge handcuff for Kupchak. Not even Jerry West would be able to work around that. Not to mention Pau's contract.

    Maybe if Kobe bows out again in the 1st round or next round, he'll realize that him taking up half the teams salary cap is not exactly helping his chances of winning a 6th. Sure he deserves all the money he's getting. He probably deserves more with the amount of money hes pulling in for the Buss family. But considering the salary cap and the luxury tax, no player should be taking up half the cap. Not even LeBron.
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    you can say Kobe was Robin to Shaq's Batman for the 1st 3 championships. But who carried Kobe against Orlando and Boston?

    Kobe's got maybe 2 solid years left before he should hang up his Nikes. I'm not about to wait that long for Andrew to grow up. Dwight's stock should have dropped low enough that the Lakers should be able to dangle Bynum and the trade exception to get a Dwight Howard who is also coming off back surgery.

    Its wishful thinking, but Kobe could solve a lot of problems if he would just sit down with Laker management and restructure his contract. He's about to make 30 million a year the next 2 years. I don't care who the GM is, thats gotta be a huge handcuff for Kupchak. Not even Jerry West would be able to work around that. Not to mention Pau's contract.

    Maybe if Kobe bows out again in the 1st round or next round, he'll realize that him taking up half the teams salary cap is not exactly helping his chances of winning a 6th. Sure he deserves all the money he's getting. He probably deserves more with the amount of money hes pulling in for the Buss family. But considering the salary cap and the luxury tax, no player should be taking up half the cap. Not even LeBron.
     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2012 - 3:11 AM ET #19

    i was off the dwight wagon when drew was showing us what he could do, but i am done with Bynum. I don't care what he does the rest of the playoffs. I am just not comfortable putting my team in the hands of a 10 year old. The kid does not get it. and he will not get it for another 5 years minimum. dude is chasing points. not championships.
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    i was off the dwight wagon when drew was showing us what he could do, but i am done with Bynum. I don't care what he does the rest of the playoffs. I am just not comfortable putting my team in the hands of a 10 year old. The kid does not get it. and he will not get it for another 5 years minimum. dude is chasing points. not championships.
     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2012 - 3:42 AM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by Lefty1981:

    you can say Kobe was Robin to Shaq's Batman for the 1st 3 championships. But who carried Kobe against Orlando and Boston?

    Kobe's got maybe 2 solid years left before he should hang up his Nikes. I'm not about to wait that long for Andrew to grow up. Dwight's stock should have dropped low enough that the Lakers should be able to dangle Bynum and the trade exception to get a Dwight Howard who is also coming off back surgery.

    Its wishful thinking, but Kobe could solve a lot of problems if he would just sit down with Laker management and restructure his contract. He's about to make 30 million a year the next 2 years. I don't care who the GM is, thats gotta be a huge handcuff for Kupchak. Not even Jerry West would be able to work around that. Not to mention Pau's contract.

    Maybe if Kobe bows out again in the 1st round or next round, he'll realize that him taking up half the teams salary cap is not exactly helping his chances of winning a 6th. Sure he deserves all the money he's getting. He probably deserves more with the amount of money hes pulling in for the Buss family. But considering the salary cap and the luxury tax, no player should be taking up half the cap. Not even LeBron.


    cant restructure contract iirc, if this was possible, gasol, bynum, and likely kobe would all do that. also its not like kobe knew the new cba agreement would have the deathly tax, the new cba agreement was put in place with one of its major objectives to prevent easy big 3 like heat did.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lefty1981:

    you can say Kobe was Robin to Shaq's Batman for the 1st 3 championships. But who carried Kobe against Orlando and Boston?

    Kobe's got maybe 2 solid years left before he should hang up his Nikes. I'm not about to wait that long for Andrew to grow up. Dwight's stock should have dropped low enough that the Lakers should be able to dangle Bynum and the trade exception to get a Dwight Howard who is also coming off back surgery.

    Its wishful thinking, but Kobe could solve a lot of problems if he would just sit down with Laker management and restructure his contract. He's about to make 30 million a year the next 2 years. I don't care who the GM is, thats gotta be a huge handcuff for Kupchak. Not even Jerry West would be able to work around that. Not to mention Pau's contract.

    Maybe if Kobe bows out again in the 1st round or next round, he'll realize that him taking up half the teams salary cap is not exactly helping his chances of winning a 6th. Sure he deserves all the money he's getting. He probably deserves more with the amount of money hes pulling in for the Buss family. But considering the salary cap and the luxury tax, no player should be taking up half the cap. Not even LeBron.


    cant restructure contract iirc, if this was possible, gasol, bynum, and likely kobe would all do that. also its not like kobe knew the new cba agreement would have the deathly tax, the new cba agreement was put in place with one of its major objectives to prevent easy big 3 like heat did.


     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2012 - 4:48 AM ET #21

    kobe deserves a better coach. LMAO!! mike brown?! he's a fcking goddamn stupid.
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    kobe deserves a better coach. LMAO!! mike brown?! he's a fcking goddamn stupid.
     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2012 - 5:09 AM ET #22

    Did you notice that Lawsom had the same number of points as Kobe and took less shots..... Whenever Kobe has a "great game" that means he shot barely above 50% because his career average is 45% shooting.

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    Did you notice that Lawsom had the same number of points as Kobe and took less shots..... Whenever Kobe has a "great game" that means he shot barely above 50% because his career average is 45% shooting.

     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2012 - 5:17 AM ET #23

    BTW Kobe's defense was awsome too, + - in the boxscore has Kobe at -28 only player that was worse is Gasol at -29.
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    BTW Kobe's defense was awsome too, + - in the boxscore has Kobe at -28 only player that was worse is Gasol at -29.
     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2012 - 11:57 AM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by Degen55:

    Did you notice that Lawsom had the same number of points as Kobe and took less shots..... Whenever Kobe has a "great game" that means he shot barely above 50% because his career average is 45% shooting.



    I thought "great" means when you perform better than you usually due relative to your usual performance

    so ya Kobe did have a "great" game  and so did Lawson 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Degen55:

    Did you notice that Lawsom had the same number of points as Kobe and took less shots..... Whenever Kobe has a "great game" that means he shot barely above 50% because his career average is 45% shooting.



    I thought "great" means when you perform better than you usually due relative to your usual performance

    so ya Kobe did have a "great" game  and so did Lawson 
     
     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2012 - 1:38 PM ET #25

    No one felt sorry for Lebron in Cleveland.. Y should anybody feel sorry for kobe in LA?? Kobe demanded a trade if Moves weren't made.. He only has ties to winning n if la didn't do anything, his ass would be gone already just like Lebron did. N I'm a bulls fan so I'm not bobbing lbjs cock. Just pointing out the same damn situation lbj is being crucified for.

    So stop complaining n take ur $100 series bet n watch la get crushed at home by a team of nobodies
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    No one felt sorry for Lebron in Cleveland.. Y should anybody feel sorry for kobe in LA?? Kobe demanded a trade if Moves weren't made.. He only has ties to winning n if la didn't do anything, his ass would be gone already just like Lebron did. N I'm a bulls fan so I'm not bobbing lbjs cock. Just pointing out the same damn situation lbj is being crucified for.

    So stop complaining n take ur $100 series bet n watch la get crushed at home by a team of nobodies
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