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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2015 - 10:51 AM ET #76

    Quote Originally Posted by KeyElement:

    Let me be really blunt about this. What you call “automatic fades” are never permanent, AND I NEVER SAID THEY WERE. That is for idiots that believe you can do the same thing time after time for ever and get different results, like winning for a change. Fading certain teams or certain pitchers is for certain times, like when the Royals were really struggling with lefties. I NEVER told anyone the fade of the Royals versus lefties was permanent. Fading Kendrick has been highly productive and he is still one of the worst pitchers in baseball, he STUNK versus the Reds Sunday, that was Lorenzen’s loss clear and simple, but Kendrick had nothing to do with the Rockies win, as in, decent performance. If I seem arrogant it is because the one thing about Covers that NEVER changes is the cheap shot conduct of wannabe handicappers that should actually be playing in the Covers free contests or Draft Kings free fantasy leagues, since they have no business taking cheap shots at handicappers that actually know what they are doing, and play with REAL money, regardless of the wager size, as opposed to those that can’t win with Monopoly money. Now go back to listening to Scorpio and commiserating with your dog, as you have no qualification to tell me a damn thing. Over the years I have played for “units” or whatever else the people seemed to like, and there were those that took the whiny little girl with PMS attitude toward that too. Nobody has to play what I do or post. A player can play at 5%, 10%, 20% or any other level he chooses and still achieve the same RoR. You don’t like the thread? You don’t like me? You don’t like my arrogance? Stick it where the sun don’t shine and don’t come back.  

    good for you Key, excellent response.You and I are the same when it comes to putting up with nonsense.Actually, I have a shorter fuse than you.I tell it like it is and don't give a flying fukk what people think.I respect you simply because you do the same.Keep doing what you do for baseball,you're a tremendous asset to this forum.And if not for your posts and insights I would never wager on baseball.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyElement:

    Let me be really blunt about this. What you call “automatic fades” are never permanent, AND I NEVER SAID THEY WERE. That is for idiots that believe you can do the same thing time after time for ever and get different results, like winning for a change. Fading certain teams or certain pitchers is for certain times, like when the Royals were really struggling with lefties. I NEVER told anyone the fade of the Royals versus lefties was permanent. Fading Kendrick has been highly productive and he is still one of the worst pitchers in baseball, he STUNK versus the Reds Sunday, that was Lorenzen’s loss clear and simple, but Kendrick had nothing to do with the Rockies win, as in, decent performance. If I seem arrogant it is because the one thing about Covers that NEVER changes is the cheap shot conduct of wannabe handicappers that should actually be playing in the Covers free contests or Draft Kings free fantasy leagues, since they have no business taking cheap shots at handicappers that actually know what they are doing, and play with REAL money, regardless of the wager size, as opposed to those that can’t win with Monopoly money. Now go back to listening to Scorpio and commiserating with your dog, as you have no qualification to tell me a damn thing. Over the years I have played for “units” or whatever else the people seemed to like, and there were those that took the whiny little girl with PMS attitude toward that too. Nobody has to play what I do or post. A player can play at 5%, 10%, 20% or any other level he chooses and still achieve the same RoR. You don’t like the thread? You don’t like me? You don’t like my arrogance? Stick it where the sun don’t shine and don’t come back.  

    good for you Key, excellent response.You and I are the same when it comes to putting up with nonsense.Actually, I have a shorter fuse than you.I tell it like it is and don't give a flying fukk what people think.I respect you simply because you do the same.Keep doing what you do for baseball,you're a tremendous asset to this forum.And if not for your posts and insights I would never wager on baseball.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2015 - 10:56 AM ET #77

    Quote Originally Posted by BetFriends:


    You are either being deliberately dense just to have an argument for argument's sake (given all I see you do is troll people, that's quite possible).. or, you are genuinely a fkn idiot.

    Key has NO SYSTEM. Even casual readers of his threads know that. He has never practiced or endorsed an 'auto-fade' of any kind, because he is an ACTUAL HANDICAPPER. 'Fade' plays are Joe Six Packs who deal in short cuts and locks. Key has even constantly voiced his disapproval of systems and follow/fade mentalities. So your commentary there is ridiculous.

    Secondly, he doesn't put his plus money to be 'flashy'. He puts it because it's his CURRENT BANKROLL POSITION. You know, the one that's documented on here while morons like you hit-and-run threads and don't keep the same level of transparency on your picks as he does.

    Further, he has never been a show-off in terms of money.. .he is CONSTANTLY saying that how much a guy is up is a worthless measurement, and that only return on risk counts. 

    If his followers are betting only $2 a game, they are also UP by the same investment %. So mouthing off about whether his followers bet the same amount or not only further shows everyone that you're talking out your azz.

    And, seriously, anyone who thinks KingScorpio 'has a point' on anything ... a guy whose sole purpose on this site is to trash picks by talking utter nonsense and never returning to a thread where the pick he trashes wins... if you feel obligated to side with opinions from that poster, you really need to do a better job reading.

    Lastly, if Key is getting more arrogant, maybe it's because of the amount of absolute clueless drivel that gets posted in his threads by guys like you.

    Only on Covers can a guy with the most transparent record have to deal with pages and pages of absolute braindead attacks like attacks from this idiot mabber.

    God, the stupid, it's blinding.

    No doubt this will all go over the heads of morons like mabber, too. Look forward to the next post of yours that invents things to be angry about.

    Idiot.

    I was about to post, but I can't say it any better than this. BetFriends, you nailed it! Covers is still a great site, due to people like Key, Actuary and Learnersrealm. The mods just need to do a better job of issuing timeouts to the immature, jealous drama queens. Thanks for the winners and insight, Key!

    RTL
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    Quote Originally Posted by BetFriends:


    You are either being deliberately dense just to have an argument for argument's sake (given all I see you do is troll people, that's quite possible).. or, you are genuinely a fkn idiot.

    Key has NO SYSTEM. Even casual readers of his threads know that. He has never practiced or endorsed an 'auto-fade' of any kind, because he is an ACTUAL HANDICAPPER. 'Fade' plays are Joe Six Packs who deal in short cuts and locks. Key has even constantly voiced his disapproval of systems and follow/fade mentalities. So your commentary there is ridiculous.

    Secondly, he doesn't put his plus money to be 'flashy'. He puts it because it's his CURRENT BANKROLL POSITION. You know, the one that's documented on here while morons like you hit-and-run threads and don't keep the same level of transparency on your picks as he does.

    Further, he has never been a show-off in terms of money.. .he is CONSTANTLY saying that how much a guy is up is a worthless measurement, and that only return on risk counts. 

    If his followers are betting only $2 a game, they are also UP by the same investment %. So mouthing off about whether his followers bet the same amount or not only further shows everyone that you're talking out your azz.

    And, seriously, anyone who thinks KingScorpio 'has a point' on anything ... a guy whose sole purpose on this site is to trash picks by talking utter nonsense and never returning to a thread where the pick he trashes wins... if you feel obligated to side with opinions from that poster, you really need to do a better job reading.

    Lastly, if Key is getting more arrogant, maybe it's because of the amount of absolute clueless drivel that gets posted in his threads by guys like you.

    Only on Covers can a guy with the most transparent record have to deal with pages and pages of absolute braindead attacks like attacks from this idiot mabber.

    God, the stupid, it's blinding.

    No doubt this will all go over the heads of morons like mabber, too. Look forward to the next post of yours that invents things to be angry about.

    Idiot.

    I was about to post, but I can't say it any better than this. BetFriends, you nailed it! Covers is still a great site, due to people like Key, Actuary and Learnersrealm. The mods just need to do a better job of issuing timeouts to the immature, jealous drama queens. Thanks for the winners and insight, Key!

    RTL
     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2015 - 10:58 AM ET #78

    Unreal how the idiots always ruin it for the rest of us...
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    Unreal how the idiots always ruin it for the rest of us...
     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2015 - 11:39 AM ET #79

    LOL. There isn't anyone on a "MOD payroll" Come on, that's about as stupid as the things these guys are saying. Guys like Key are good for the site and they know it. End of story

    Bookies could care less what Key or anyone here is playing. They want the juice. 


    Histrionic personality disorder. It's sad
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    LOL. There isn't anyone on a "MOD payroll" Come on, that's about as stupid as the things these guys are saying. Guys like Key are good for the site and they know it. End of story

    Bookies could care less what Key or anyone here is playing. They want the juice. 


     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2015 - 11:43 AM ET #80

    Quote Originally Posted by Newcompa:

    Thats because those idiots are on a MOD payroll. Their job is to harrass some of the great cappers like Key and even things out with the bookies. Their objective is to divert followers or minions, and or cause turmoil so that cappers would leave. Things like that.
    Kinda like throwing a monkey wrench here and there. i hope my spelling is good. I know they will come and bash me for it. Or I will be boxed. i dont know. lol

    I'd say it is more jealousy that they can't pick winners to save their lives, so they feel they have to attack successful cappers to make themselves feel better about themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Newcompa:

    Thats because those idiots are on a MOD payroll. Their job is to harrass some of the great cappers like Key and even things out with the bookies. Their objective is to divert followers or minions, and or cause turmoil so that cappers would leave. Things like that.
    Kinda like throwing a monkey wrench here and there. i hope my spelling is good. I know they will come and bash me for it. Or I will be boxed. i dont know. lol

    I'd say it is more jealousy that they can't pick winners to save their lives, so they feel they have to attack successful cappers to make themselves feel better about themselves.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2015 - 12:17 PM ET #81

    As long as your bookie hates it Newcompa, that's what counts 
    Histrionic personality disorder. It's sad
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    As long as your bookie hates it Newcompa, that's what counts 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2015 - 12:38 PM ET #82

    You have alot of patience Key with this nonsense

    Keep doing what you have been 

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    You have alot of patience Key with this nonsense

    Keep doing what you have been 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2015 - 12:53 PM ET #83

    Thanks for your insights key, I've been keeping tabs on this thread all season. Unfortunately I'm a broke college kid and can't bet 400 a game but reading your write ups has been very educational and tailing your bets where I can has kept my fridge stocked. The guys who pop up now and then talking ish are no doubt bitter/jealous. Those people exist in all walks of life especially it seems when losing money is involved. Success attracts "minions" and "haters". As a lurker who pretty much only checks covers to get your specfic take on things, I thank you. Pay these mopes no mind. 
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    Thanks for your insights key, I've been keeping tabs on this thread all season. Unfortunately I'm a broke college kid and can't bet 400 a game but reading your write ups has been very educational and tailing your bets where I can has kept my fridge stocked. The guys who pop up now and then talking ish are no doubt bitter/jealous. Those people exist in all walks of life especially it seems when losing money is involved. Success attracts "minions" and "haters". As a lurker who pretty much only checks covers to get your specfic take on things, I thank you. Pay these mopes no mind. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2015 - 6:27 PM ET #84

    i've grossed more with my plays the last two months than key has with bet slips to prove it. i never attacked your plays or you personally. i made statements that were spot on and you don't like any attention being taken away from you on your little "thread". i'll be over in the winners circle with scorpio. 
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    i've grossed more with my plays the last two months than key has with bet slips to prove it. i never attacked your plays or you personally. i made statements that were spot on and you don't like any attention being taken away from you on your little "thread". i'll be over in the winners circle with scorpio. 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2015 - 6:36 PM ET #85

    Quote Originally Posted by mabber:

    i've grossed more with my plays the last two months than key has with bet slips to prove it. i never attacked your plays or you personally. i made statements that were spot on and you don't like any attention being taken away from you on your little "thread". i'll be over in the winners circle with scorpio. 

    You liar. Read the thread, do you notice on four pages, no one agrees with you. Expect the Queen

    You jealous baby
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    Quote Originally Posted by mabber:

    i've grossed more with my plays the last two months than key has with bet slips to prove it. i never attacked your plays or you personally. i made statements that were spot on and you don't like any attention being taken away from you on your little "thread". i'll be over in the winners circle with scorpio. 

    You liar. Read the thread, do you notice on four pages, no one agrees with you. Expect the Queen

    You jealous baby
     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2015 - 6:38 PM ET #86

    I think A's might be a bad spot tonight. The A's just sold half there lineup. It would be a good spot based on pitching if the A's were going for the wild card but they have decided to become sellers. I'm on the dodgers.
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    I think A's might be a bad spot tonight. The A's just sold half there lineup. It would be a good spot based on pitching if the A's were going for the wild card but they have decided to become sellers. I'm on the dodgers.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2015 - 6:41 PM ET #87

    ^^^^^^ This guy, lol.....

    Reminds me a saying I live by on the internet...

    "Arguining on the internet is like running in the special olympics....even if you win you're still retarded" 
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    ^^^^^^ This guy, lol.....

    Reminds me a saying I live by on the internet...

    "Arguining on the internet is like running in the special olympics....even if you win you're still retarded" 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2015 - 6:43 PM ET #88

    That was obviously meant for poster #87
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    That was obviously meant for poster #87
     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2015 - 6:43 PM ET #89

    i'll post every bet slip i have for the past 2 months if king Key is willing. we'll see who the bigger winner is
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    i'll post every bet slip i have for the past 2 months if king Key is willing. we'll see who the bigger winner is
     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2015 - 6:52 PM ET #90

    Quote Originally Posted by mabber:

    i'll post every bet slip i have for the past 2 months if king Key is willing. we'll see who the bigger winner is

    Nobody gives a crap about you or your bets.  Anyone can make up bet slips anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mabber:

    i'll post every bet slip i have for the past 2 months if king Key is willing. we'll see who the bigger winner is

    Nobody gives a crap about you or your bets.  Anyone can make up bet slips anyways.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2015 - 6:57 PM ET #91

    Yep. He refuses to post prior to a game. Which means he is lying
    Histrionic personality disorder. It's sad
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    Yep. He refuses to post prior to a game. Which means he is lying
     
    joshfactor
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2015 - 7:41 PM ET #92

    Quote Originally Posted by mabber:

    i'll post every bet slip i have for the past 2 months if king Key is willing. we'll see who the bigger winner is

    honestly you should be posting picks before game before going after people who are posting records. but you are the biggest monday morning QB i ever seen, ripping on peoples picks when they are down. your an awful stain on white people who own dogs. shame on you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mabber:

    i'll post every bet slip i have for the past 2 months if king Key is willing. we'll see who the bigger winner is

    honestly you should be posting picks before game before going after people who are posting records. but you are the biggest monday morning QB i ever seen, ripping on peoples picks when they are down. your an awful stain on white people who own dogs. shame on you.

     
    GianG13
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    Posted: Jul. 29, 2015 - 12:47 AM ET #93

    Guys I never post BUT PLEASE READ THIS.

    I AM 47 years old l live in Buffalo NY, I have been following key for over 3 years and not once comment on his post. I decided to invest my winnings and for $550 I flew out to meet with Key I won't disclose his name unless he allows me. It was the best money I have ever spent. He is an INCREDIBLE MAN I HAD THE PLEASURE TO HAVE HIS PRESENCE WITH ME FOR OVER 5 HOURS. We had lunch and laughed and trust me you would be a fool not to follow him, he is a true professional also an incredible smart man not only in the gambling but knowledgeable in life. Since most of you are gamblers it would be a wise to spend a few bucks if KEY wants to grace you with his presence. 

    I read earlier that a few would like to perhaps meet in vegas, I am in only if Key is coming would love to see Weeble and few others that posted earlier.

    To all the negative people  posting on key. It's America. It's ok to disagree with someone it's not ok to be a degenerate and be ignorant and rude to someone you have no clue about invest and pray key will grace you with his appearance and I promise you, that you will not regret it.

    KEY THANK YOU ALL OF MY FRIENDS ENJOYED YOU TODAY YOU ARE ONE HELL OF A PERSON TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF. LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING YOU IN VEGAS AND YES GRACE ME WITH YOUR PRESENCE AGAIN THE PLEASURE WAS ALL MINE, YOU WILL WALK AWAY LOVING THIS GUY



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    Guys I never post BUT PLEASE READ THIS.

    I AM 47 years old l live in Buffalo NY, I have been following key for over 3 years and not once comment on his post. I decided to invest my winnings and for $550 I flew out to meet with Key I won't disclose his name unless he allows me. It was the best money I have ever spent. He is an INCREDIBLE MAN I HAD THE PLEASURE TO HAVE HIS PRESENCE WITH ME FOR OVER 5 HOURS. We had lunch and laughed and trust me you would be a fool not to follow him, he is a true professional also an incredible smart man not only in the gambling but knowledgeable in life. Since most of you are gamblers it would be a wise to spend a few bucks if KEY wants to grace you with his presence. 

    I read earlier that a few would like to perhaps meet in vegas, I am in only if Key is coming would love to see Weeble and few others that posted earlier.

    To all the negative people  posting on key. It's America. It's ok to disagree with someone it's not ok to be a degenerate and be ignorant and rude to someone you have no clue about invest and pray key will grace you with his appearance and I promise you, that you will not regret it.

    KEY THANK YOU ALL OF MY FRIENDS ENJOYED YOU TODAY YOU ARE ONE HELL OF A PERSON TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF. LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING YOU IN VEGAS AND YES GRACE ME WITH YOUR PRESENCE AGAIN THE PLEASURE WAS ALL MINE, YOU WILL WALK AWAY LOVING THIS GUY



     
    TreesWithKnees
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    Posted: Jul. 29, 2015 - 4:03 AM ET #94

    Quote Originally Posted by GianG13:

    Guys I never post BUT PLEASE READ THIS.

    I AM 47 years old l live in Buffalo NY, I have been following key for over 3 years and not once comment on his post. I decided to invest my winnings and for $550 I flew out to meet with Key I won't disclose his name unless he allows me. It was the best money I have ever spent. He is an INCREDIBLE MAN I HAD THE PLEASURE TO HAVE HIS PRESENCE WITH ME FOR OVER 5 HOURS. We had lunch and laughed and trust me you would be a fool not to follow him, he is a true professional also an incredible smart man not only in the gambling but knowledgeable in life. Since most of you are gamblers it would be a wise to spend a few bucks if KEY wants to grace you with his presence. 

    I read earlier that a few would like to perhaps meet in vegas, I am in only if Key is coming would love to see Weeble and few others that posted earlier.

    To all the negative people  posting on key. It's America. It's ok to disagree with someone it's not ok to be a degenerate and be ignorant and rude to someone you have no clue about invest and pray key will grace you with his appearance and I promise you, that you will not regret it.

    KEY THANK YOU ALL OF MY FRIENDS ENJOYED YOU TODAY YOU ARE ONE HELL OF A PERSON TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF. LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING YOU IN VEGAS AND YES GRACE ME WITH YOUR PRESENCE AGAIN THE PLEASURE WAS ALL MINE, YOU WILL WALK AWAY LOVING THIS GUY




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    Quote Originally Posted by GianG13:

    Guys I never post BUT PLEASE READ THIS.

    I AM 47 years old l live in Buffalo NY, I have been following key for over 3 years and not once comment on his post. I decided to invest my winnings and for $550 I flew out to meet with Key I won't disclose his name unless he allows me. It was the best money I have ever spent. He is an INCREDIBLE MAN I HAD THE PLEASURE TO HAVE HIS PRESENCE WITH ME FOR OVER 5 HOURS. We had lunch and laughed and trust me you would be a fool not to follow him, he is a true professional also an incredible smart man not only in the gambling but knowledgeable in life. Since most of you are gamblers it would be a wise to spend a few bucks if KEY wants to grace you with his presence. 

    I read earlier that a few would like to perhaps meet in vegas, I am in only if Key is coming would love to see Weeble and few others that posted earlier.

    To all the negative people  posting on key. It's America. It's ok to disagree with someone it's not ok to be a degenerate and be ignorant and rude to someone you have no clue about invest and pray key will grace you with his appearance and I promise you, that you will not regret it.

    KEY THANK YOU ALL OF MY FRIENDS ENJOYED YOU TODAY YOU ARE ONE HELL OF A PERSON TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF. LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING YOU IN VEGAS AND YES GRACE ME WITH YOUR PRESENCE AGAIN THE PLEASURE WAS ALL MINE, YOU WILL WALK AWAY LOVING THIS GUY




     
    GianG13
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    Posted: Jul. 29, 2015 - 4:53 AM ET #95

    If you live that close NEWCOMPA you should  find time to meet Key,  he is a cheap date drinks ice tea, his dentures fell out only twice....lol.    We had lots of laughs and by the way he does his homework seen  it first hand very knowledgeable man
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    If you live that close NEWCOMPA you should  find time to meet Key,  he is a cheap date drinks ice tea, his dentures fell out only twice....lol.    We had lots of laughs and by the way he does his homework seen  it first hand very knowledgeable man
     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 29, 2015 - 4:39 PM ET #96

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