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    KeyElement
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    Posted: Jul. 27, 2015 - 11:00 PM ET #51

    Quote Originally Posted by mabber:

    i don't think anyone is saying he's a bad capper, but scorpio does have a point. throughout most of this season key has been a dog or nothing better rarely eating chalk. he'd "release" 2 or 3 plays and after his hot streak cooled off, it's been 1 a day. i dont think that's a coincidence. also, this "system" of his included 

    1.)autofade kendrick every start
    2.)autofade the royals against a LHP, even though they've been top 5 in the league against lefties ALL YEAR
    3.)autofade the cardinals against lefties
    4.for awhile it was autofade danks

    so while you sling insults back at scoprio, he's not totally off base. your picks have been much more "chasey" lately
    Last 11 = 7 dogs, 3 favs, 1 +$ run line
    8-7
    +$1,171.27
    Now, is that "chasey" or are you the clueless one?
    You and Scorpio can get together on that all important win%
    You were made for each other
    BOL

    Now and then even a BLIND squirrel can find an acorn
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    Quote Originally Posted by mabber:

    i don't think anyone is saying he's a bad capper, but scorpio does have a point. throughout most of this season key has been a dog or nothing better rarely eating chalk. he'd "release" 2 or 3 plays and after his hot streak cooled off, it's been 1 a day. i dont think that's a coincidence. also, this "system" of his included 

    1.)autofade kendrick every start
    2.)autofade the royals against a LHP, even though they've been top 5 in the league against lefties ALL YEAR
    3.)autofade the cardinals against lefties
    4.for awhile it was autofade danks

    so while you sling insults back at scoprio, he's not totally off base. your picks have been much more "chasey" lately
    Last 11 = 7 dogs, 3 favs, 1 +$ run line
    8-7
    +$1,171.27
    Now, is that "chasey" or are you the clueless one?
    You and Scorpio can get together on that all important win%
    You were made for each other
    BOL

     
    KeyElement
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    Posted: Jul. 27, 2015 - 11:04 PM ET #52

    Oh, and lest I forget, that is a 19.22% return on risk
    Now and then even a BLIND squirrel can find an acorn
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    Oh, and lest I forget, that is a 19.22% return on risk
     
    KeyElement
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    Posted: Jul. 27, 2015 - 11:51 PM ET #53

    Quote Originally Posted by tcufootball:

    Key get on the Tigers tonight, that's where the big boys are hitting up tonight.
    Did you contact "the big boys" and tell them Key was playing the Giants? They may have been able to recoup some of their Tigers loss. Please, no suggestions.

    Now and then even a BLIND squirrel can find an acorn
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    Quote Originally Posted by tcufootball:

    Key get on the Tigers tonight, that's where the big boys are hitting up tonight.
    Did you contact "the big boys" and tell them Key was playing the Giants? They may have been able to recoup some of their Tigers loss. Please, no suggestions.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2015 - 12:43 AM ET #54

    you fail to comment on any of the other points. why no more fade of every single lefty against the royals? did you finally realize that wasn't a wise play? you post your +$1000 to be flashy, but 99% of the betters tailing your plays arent betting 400 a game. 
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    you fail to comment on any of the other points. why no more fade of every single lefty against the royals? did you finally realize that wasn't a wise play? you post your +$1000 to be flashy, but 99% of the betters tailing your plays arent betting 400 a game. 
     
    mabber
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2015 - 12:45 AM ET #55

    you've gotten rather arrogant on here lately Key to be honest. i've followed your posts since i joined this forum. best of luck to you and your minions. 
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    you've gotten rather arrogant on here lately Key to be honest. i've followed your posts since i joined this forum. best of luck to you and your minions. 
     
    doliver517
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2015 - 1:14 AM ET #56

    Quote Originally Posted by mabber:

    you fail to comment on any of the other points. why no more fade of every single lefty against the royals? did you finally realize that wasn't a wise play? you post your +$1000 to be flashy, but 99% of the betters tailing your plays arent betting 400 a game. 
    Are you slow? That's a serious question from me to you. The ROI is the same if you're betting $400 or $100. I've been tailing w/ discipline. That's the #1 problem in this "game" of sports gambling. You seem butt hurt and want to play a different game called "listen to me being ignorant".  
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    Quote Originally Posted by mabber:

    you fail to comment on any of the other points. why no more fade of every single lefty against the royals? did you finally realize that wasn't a wise play? you post your +$1000 to be flashy, but 99% of the betters tailing your plays arent betting 400 a game. 
    Are you slow? That's a serious question from me to you. The ROI is the same if you're betting $400 or $100. I've been tailing w/ discipline. That's the #1 problem in this "game" of sports gambling. You seem butt hurt and want to play a different game called "listen to me being ignorant".  
     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2015 - 1:17 AM ET #57

    Quote Originally Posted by mabber:

    you've gotten rather arrogant on here lately Key to be honest. i've followed your posts since i joined this forum. best of luck to you and your minions. 

    Let me be really blunt about this. What you call “automatic fades” are never permanent, AND I NEVER SAID THEY WERE. That is for idiots that believe you can do the same thing time after time for ever and get different results, like winning for a change. Fading certain teams or certain pitchers is for certain times, like when the Royals were really struggling with lefties. I NEVER told anyone the fade of the Royals versus lefties was permanent. Fading Kendrick has been highly productive and he is still one of the worst pitchers in baseball, he STUNK versus the Reds Sunday, that was Lorenzen’s loss clear and simple, but Kendrick had nothing to do with the Rockies win, as in, decent performance. If I seem arrogant it is because the one thing about Covers that NEVER changes is the cheap shot conduct of wannabe handicappers that should actually be playing in the Covers free contests or Draft Kings free fantasy leagues, since they have no business taking cheap shots at handicappers that actually know what they are doing, and play with REAL money, regardless of the wager size, as opposed to those that can’t win with Monopoly money. Now go back to listening to Scorpio and commiserating with your dog, as you have no qualification to tell me a damn thing. Over the years I have played for “units” or whatever else the people seemed to like, and there were those that took the whiny little girl with PMS attitude toward that too. Nobody has to play what I do or post. A player can play at 5%, 10%, 20% or any other level he chooses and still achieve the same RoR. You don’t like the thread? You don’t like me? You don’t like my arrogance? Stick it where the sun don’t shine and don’t come back.  

    Now and then even a BLIND squirrel can find an acorn
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    Quote Originally Posted by mabber:

    you've gotten rather arrogant on here lately Key to be honest. i've followed your posts since i joined this forum. best of luck to you and your minions. 

    Let me be really blunt about this. What you call “automatic fades” are never permanent, AND I NEVER SAID THEY WERE. That is for idiots that believe you can do the same thing time after time for ever and get different results, like winning for a change. Fading certain teams or certain pitchers is for certain times, like when the Royals were really struggling with lefties. I NEVER told anyone the fade of the Royals versus lefties was permanent. Fading Kendrick has been highly productive and he is still one of the worst pitchers in baseball, he STUNK versus the Reds Sunday, that was Lorenzen’s loss clear and simple, but Kendrick had nothing to do with the Rockies win, as in, decent performance. If I seem arrogant it is because the one thing about Covers that NEVER changes is the cheap shot conduct of wannabe handicappers that should actually be playing in the Covers free contests or Draft Kings free fantasy leagues, since they have no business taking cheap shots at handicappers that actually know what they are doing, and play with REAL money, regardless of the wager size, as opposed to those that can’t win with Monopoly money. Now go back to listening to Scorpio and commiserating with your dog, as you have no qualification to tell me a damn thing. Over the years I have played for “units” or whatever else the people seemed to like, and there were those that took the whiny little girl with PMS attitude toward that too. Nobody has to play what I do or post. A player can play at 5%, 10%, 20% or any other level he chooses and still achieve the same RoR. You don’t like the thread? You don’t like me? You don’t like my arrogance? Stick it where the sun don’t shine and don’t come back.  

     
    Lougroza2
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2015 - 1:27 AM ET #58

    this forum seems loosely moderated. why are posters, especially new accounts, allowed to take shots at other members on a constant basis ? no one should be giving other members grief whatsoever.
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    this forum seems loosely moderated. why are posters, especially new accounts, allowed to take shots at other members on a constant basis ? no one should be giving other members grief whatsoever.
     
    doliver517
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2015 - 1:28 AM ET #59

    Nice rebuttal Key...I said the same thing w/ out typing so much 
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    Nice rebuttal Key...I said the same thing w/ out typing so much 
     
    PicKnRole
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2015 - 1:29 AM ET #60

    GIANTS 
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    GIANTS 
     
    Lougroza2
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2015 - 1:32 AM ET #61

    Quote Originally Posted by PicKnRole:

    GIANTS 

    hell yeah. congrats giants backers. thx key 
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    Quote Originally Posted by PicKnRole:

    GIANTS 

    hell yeah. congrats giants backers. thx key 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2015 - 1:32 AM ET #62

    i love it when KingScrubio doesn't agree with you! 
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    i love it when KingScrubio doesn't agree with you! 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2015 - 2:23 AM ET #63

    thank you for the winner key.well done sir.
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    thank you for the winner key.well done sir.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2015 - 2:48 AM ET #64

    Yet again....

    KeyElement .....  WINNAR!!!

    Haters......  LOSAR!!!!

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    Yet again....

    KeyElement .....  WINNAR!!!

    Haters......  LOSAR!!!!

     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2015 - 3:02 AM ET #65

    Quote Originally Posted by mabber:

    you've gotten rather arrogant on here lately Key to be honest. i've followed your posts since i joined this forum. best of luck to you and your minions.

    Minion: one who tails a capper who wins in the long run and whose record and betting style are completely transparent and able to withstand minor downturns

    I am a minion

    And if you're a hater ask yourself: what more do you want? You're reduced to accusations of arrogance. Why not just shut up and win some money?

    As a great man once said, if Covers was a personality contest it would be a very quiet place
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    Quote Originally Posted by mabber:

    you've gotten rather arrogant on here lately Key to be honest. i've followed your posts since i joined this forum. best of luck to you and your minions.

    Minion: one who tails a capper who wins in the long run and whose record and betting style are completely transparent and able to withstand minor downturns

    I am a minion

    And if you're a hater ask yourself: what more do you want? You're reduced to accusations of arrogance. Why not just shut up and win some money?

    As a great man once said, if Covers was a personality contest it would be a very quiet place
     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2015 - 4:17 AM ET #66

    The one thing that most Covers members fail to realize... Key Element does his best work, finds his best ROI in the Baseball months of August & September.

    While Las Vegas is busy throwing overrated lines at Wild Card Wanabees, Key Element is breaking these False Chalks down to pumice and handing Covers Players free football bankroll building money week after week after week. 

    Get with the program Covers Members. 

    Free Football banking for the next 8 weeks.

    Geeez.  Some guys you just have to draw a picture and point them in the right direction.

    GL Key and ignore the haters.  They'll figure it out one year.


    ~~~~~ZOSO~~~~~
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    The one thing that most Covers members fail to realize... Key Element does his best work, finds his best ROI in the Baseball months of August & September.

    While Las Vegas is busy throwing overrated lines at Wild Card Wanabees, Key Element is breaking these False Chalks down to pumice and handing Covers Players free football bankroll building money week after week after week. 

    Get with the program Covers Members. 

    Free Football banking for the next 8 weeks.

    Geeez.  Some guys you just have to draw a picture and point them in the right direction.

    GL Key and ignore the haters.  They'll figure it out one year.


     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2015 - 5:11 AM ET #67

    This is all ridiculous. We're all here for one reason, to win. If Key can help you win what more can you ask for? Hell, the last thing covers needs is intelligent/experienced handicappers, true cappers, like Key to stop posting altogether. 


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    This is all ridiculous. We're all here for one reason, to win. If Key can help you win what more can you ask for? Hell, the last thing covers needs is intelligent/experienced handicappers, true cappers, like Key to stop posting altogether. 


     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2015 - 8:02 AM ET #68

    Quote Originally Posted by mabber:

    you fail to comment on any of the other points. why no more fade of every single lefty against the royals? did you finally realize that wasn't a wise play? you post your +$1000 to be flashy, but 99% of the betters tailing your plays arent betting 400 a game. 

    What does it matter, ahole, how much they are betting? They will still be a plus dollars you idiot! 

    Why don't YOU worry about YOUR money? 
    Histrionic personality disorder. It's sad
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    Quote Originally Posted by mabber:

    you fail to comment on any of the other points. why no more fade of every single lefty against the royals? did you finally realize that wasn't a wise play? you post your +$1000 to be flashy, but 99% of the betters tailing your plays arent betting 400 a game. 

    What does it matter, ahole, how much they are betting? They will still be a plus dollars you idiot! 

    Why don't YOU worry about YOUR money? 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2015 - 9:21 AM ET #69

    I cant believe people are coming into your thread and complaining Key. Calling you arrogant really made me laugh. Most of these idiots dont even understand what you try to tell them. But I am glad they exist as they are the reason we can get such great lines on the truly better team. Please keep doing what you do sir. Guys like me,  who are trying to become the kind of capper you are, truly appreciate your presence on covers 
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    I cant believe people are coming into your thread and complaining Key. Calling you arrogant really made me laugh. Most of these idiots dont even understand what you try to tell them. But I am glad they exist as they are the reason we can get such great lines on the truly better team. Please keep doing what you do sir. Guys like me,  who are trying to become the kind of capper you are, truly appreciate your presence on covers 
     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2015 - 9:55 AM ET #70

    Key, as a seldom poster, I appreciate all the picks and insight. BOL on the rest of the season.
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    Key, as a seldom poster, I appreciate all the picks and insight. BOL on the rest of the season.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2015 - 10:00 AM ET #71

    i,for one, appreciate the insights.  gl going forward key
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    i,for one, appreciate the insights.  gl going forward key
     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2015 - 10:17 AM ET #72

    look people KEY picks allot of dogs and I for one like this because it would be a lot easier for him to post a big favorite for his one play each day. Leave him alone and let him do his thing. He is doing well.
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    look people KEY picks allot of dogs and I for one like this because it would be a lot easier for him to post a big favorite for his one play each day. Leave him alone and let him do his thing. He is doing well.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2015 - 10:22 AM ET #73

    Quote Originally Posted by KeyElement:

    Let me be really blunt about this. What you call “automatic fades” are never permanent, AND I NEVER SAID THEY WERE. That is for idiots that believe you can do the same thing time after time for ever and get different results, like winning for a change. Fading certain teams or certain pitchers is for certain times, like when the Royals were really struggling with lefties. I NEVER told anyone the fade of the Royals versus lefties was permanent. Fading Kendrick has been highly productive and he is still one of the worst pitchers in baseball, he STUNK versus the Reds Sunday, that was Lorenzen’s loss clear and simple, but Kendrick had nothing to do with the Rockies win, as in, decent performance. If I seem arrogant it is because the one thing about Covers that NEVER changes is the cheap shot conduct of wannabe handicappers that should actually be playing in the Covers free contests or Draft Kings free fantasy leagues, since they have no business taking cheap shots at handicappers that actually know what they are doing, and play with REAL money, regardless of the wager size, as opposed to those that can’t win with Monopoly money. Now go back to listening to Scorpio and commiserating with your dog, as you have no qualification to tell me a damn thing. Over the years I have played for “units” or whatever else the people seemed to like, and there were those that took the whiny little girl with PMS attitude toward that too. Nobody has to play what I do or post. A player can play at 5%, 10%, 20% or any other level he chooses and still achieve the same RoR. You don’t like the thread? You don’t like me? You don’t like my arrogance? Stick it where the sun don’t shine and don’t come back.  



    No one forces you idiots to come into the man's thread. If you don't like what he does or says I am sure it will be no sweat off him. I appreciate what you do and how you do it. Your thread is a must visit, too bad too many idiots visit and feel the need to comment. No one comes to this thread to see what they have to say. GL sir.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeyElement:

    Let me be really blunt about this. What you call “automatic fades” are never permanent, AND I NEVER SAID THEY WERE. That is for idiots that believe you can do the same thing time after time for ever and get different results, like winning for a change. Fading certain teams or certain pitchers is for certain times, like when the Royals were really struggling with lefties. I NEVER told anyone the fade of the Royals versus lefties was permanent. Fading Kendrick has been highly productive and he is still one of the worst pitchers in baseball, he STUNK versus the Reds Sunday, that was Lorenzen’s loss clear and simple, but Kendrick had nothing to do with the Rockies win, as in, decent performance. If I seem arrogant it is because the one thing about Covers that NEVER changes is the cheap shot conduct of wannabe handicappers that should actually be playing in the Covers free contests or Draft Kings free fantasy leagues, since they have no business taking cheap shots at handicappers that actually know what they are doing, and play with REAL money, regardless of the wager size, as opposed to those that can’t win with Monopoly money. Now go back to listening to Scorpio and commiserating with your dog, as you have no qualification to tell me a damn thing. Over the years I have played for “units” or whatever else the people seemed to like, and there were those that took the whiny little girl with PMS attitude toward that too. Nobody has to play what I do or post. A player can play at 5%, 10%, 20% or any other level he chooses and still achieve the same RoR. You don’t like the thread? You don’t like me? You don’t like my arrogance? Stick it where the sun don’t shine and don’t come back.  



    No one forces you idiots to come into the man's thread. If you don't like what he does or says I am sure it will be no sweat off him. I appreciate what you do and how you do it. Your thread is a must visit, too bad too many idiots visit and feel the need to comment. No one comes to this thread to see what they have to say. GL sir.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2015 - 10:31 AM ET #74

    Quote Originally Posted by mabber:

    you've gotten rather arrogant on here lately Key to be honest. i've followed your posts since i joined this forum. best of luck to you and your minions.


    Hey Blabber, why do you take your ridiculous posts over to FYL's thread. At least you can have something to complain about there.

    So you're saying he's arrogant but since you have joined the forum, you've made money on Keys picks, yet he's arrogant and you have to balls to call the guy out... Ya that makes sense.

    Bol going forward.

    Good hit on SF Key
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    Quote Originally Posted by mabber:

    you've gotten rather arrogant on here lately Key to be honest. i've followed your posts since i joined this forum. best of luck to you and your minions.


    Hey Blabber, why do you take your ridiculous posts over to FYL's thread. At least you can have something to complain about there.

    So you're saying he's arrogant but since you have joined the forum, you've made money on Keys picks, yet he's arrogant and you have to balls to call the guy out... Ya that makes sense.

    Bol going forward.

    Good hit on SF Key
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by mabber:

    you fail to comment on any of the other points. why no more fade of every single lefty against the royals? did you finally realize that wasn't a wise play? you post your +$1000 to be flashy, but 99% of the betters tailing your plays arent betting 400 a game. 

    You are either being deliberately dense just to have an argument for argument's sake (given all I see you do is troll people, that's quite possible).. or, you are genuinely a fkn idiot.

    Key has NO SYSTEM. Even casual readers of his threads know that. He has never practiced or endorsed an 'auto-fade' of any kind, because he is an ACTUAL HANDICAPPER. 'Fade' plays are Joe Six Packs who deal in short cuts and locks. Key has even constantly voiced his disapproval of systems and follow/fade mentalities. So your commentary there is ridiculous.

    Secondly, he doesn't put his plus money to be 'flashy'. He puts it because it's his CURRENT BANKROLL POSITION. You know, the one that's documented on here while morons like you hit-and-run threads and don't keep the same level of transparency on your picks as he does.

    Further, he has never been a show-off in terms of money.. .he is CONSTANTLY saying that how much a guy is up is a worthless measurement, and that only return on risk counts. 

    If his followers are betting only $2 a game, they are also UP by the same investment %. So mouthing off about whether his followers bet the same amount or not only further shows everyone that you're talking out your azz.

    And, seriously, anyone who thinks KingScorpio 'has a point' on anything ... a guy whose sole purpose on this site is to trash picks by talking utter nonsense and never returning to a thread where the pick he trashes wins... if you feel obligated to side with opinions from that poster, you really need to do a better job reading.

    Lastly, if Key is getting more arrogant, maybe it's because of the amount of absolute clueless drivel that gets posted in his threads by guys like you.

    Only on Covers can a guy with the most transparent record have to deal with pages and pages of absolute braindead attacks like attacks from this idiot mabber.

    God, the stupid, it's blinding.

    No doubt this will all go over the heads of morons like mabber, too. Look forward to the next post of yours that invents things to be angry about.

    Idiot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mabber:

    you fail to comment on any of the other points. why no more fade of every single lefty against the royals? did you finally realize that wasn't a wise play? you post your +$1000 to be flashy, but 99% of the betters tailing your plays arent betting 400 a game. 

    You are either being deliberately dense just to have an argument for argument's sake (given all I see you do is troll people, that's quite possible).. or, you are genuinely a fkn idiot.

    Key has NO SYSTEM. Even casual readers of his threads know that. He has never practiced or endorsed an 'auto-fade' of any kind, because he is an ACTUAL HANDICAPPER. 'Fade' plays are Joe Six Packs who deal in short cuts and locks. Key has even constantly voiced his disapproval of systems and follow/fade mentalities. So your commentary there is ridiculous.

    Secondly, he doesn't put his plus money to be 'flashy'. He puts it because it's his CURRENT BANKROLL POSITION. You know, the one that's documented on here while morons like you hit-and-run threads and don't keep the same level of transparency on your picks as he does.

    Further, he has never been a show-off in terms of money.. .he is CONSTANTLY saying that how much a guy is up is a worthless measurement, and that only return on risk counts. 

    If his followers are betting only $2 a game, they are also UP by the same investment %. So mouthing off about whether his followers bet the same amount or not only further shows everyone that you're talking out your azz.

    And, seriously, anyone who thinks KingScorpio 'has a point' on anything ... a guy whose sole purpose on this site is to trash picks by talking utter nonsense and never returning to a thread where the pick he trashes wins... if you feel obligated to side with opinions from that poster, you really need to do a better job reading.

    Lastly, if Key is getting more arrogant, maybe it's because of the amount of absolute clueless drivel that gets posted in his threads by guys like you.

    Only on Covers can a guy with the most transparent record have to deal with pages and pages of absolute braindead attacks like attacks from this idiot mabber.

    God, the stupid, it's blinding.

    No doubt this will all go over the heads of morons like mabber, too. Look forward to the next post of yours that invents things to be angry about.

    Idiot.
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