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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2010 - 4:01 PM ET #176

    Gotta be cuz of all the young bucks.
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2010 - 4:21 PM ET #177

    I would discuss this further but I'm simply not in the mood.

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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2010 - 4:27 PM ET #178

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

    I would discuss this further but I'm simply not in the mood.




    Ha.... " I don't have the energy " . Like someone said the other day.

    Don't sweat it buddy, i am going to watch Judge Judy now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

    I would discuss this further but I'm simply not in the mood.




    Ha.... " I don't have the energy " . Like someone said the other day.

    Don't sweat it buddy, i am going to watch Judge Judy now.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2010 - 4:27 PM ET #179

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

    I would discuss this further but I'm simply not in the mood.



    Whats there to discuss.... A scout says Jones was slumping due to changing his approach and batting lead off.

    You claimed that had nothing to do with anything and he plain old sucks.

    I show stats that show he batted .188 in the leadoff and .285 anywhere else but lead off.

    He has also raised his BA 40 points since May 1st.

    Dont think there is really anything to discuss other than you did not know how to look at his stats reasonably and understand where his struggles were coming
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

    I would discuss this further but I'm simply not in the mood.



    Whats there to discuss.... A scout says Jones was slumping due to changing his approach and batting lead off.

    You claimed that had nothing to do with anything and he plain old sucks.

    I show stats that show he batted .188 in the leadoff and .285 anywhere else but lead off.

    He has also raised his BA 40 points since May 1st.

    Dont think there is really anything to discuss other than you did not know how to look at his stats reasonably and understand where his struggles were coming
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2010 - 4:46 PM ET #180

    Quote Originally Posted by GamzOver:



    Ha....you're right. And you know what is even funnier ? I heard today their TV ratings are up this year over last year. Go figure.


    TV ratings for MASN are up 12% this year.

    Simply incredible. Peter is probably jumping for joy over that.
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    Ha....you're right. And you know what is even funnier ? I heard today their TV ratings are up this year over last year. Go figure.


    TV ratings for MASN are up 12% this year.

    Simply incredible. Peter is probably jumping for joy over that.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2010 - 4:48 PM ET #181

    Quote Originally Posted by Baldheadslick:

    When's your boy Felix Pie coming back?


    I am guessing August.

    I am a big fan of Pie and believe he will become a very serviceable OF.

    I honestly would put Pie in CF and move Jones to LF. I wouldn't exactly shop Jones around actively but if a deal was proposed that was too good to pass up that had JOnes being shipped out I would go for it.

    Like say the Rangers called up and said they were interested in Jones and maybe someone else for Smoak.... I'd be all over that deal. Just becaue the O's have OF depth and nothing at 1st.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baldheadslick:

    When's your boy Felix Pie coming back?


    I am guessing August.

    I am a big fan of Pie and believe he will become a very serviceable OF.

    I honestly would put Pie in CF and move Jones to LF. I wouldn't exactly shop Jones around actively but if a deal was proposed that was too good to pass up that had JOnes being shipped out I would go for it.

    Like say the Rangers called up and said they were interested in Jones and maybe someone else for Smoak.... I'd be all over that deal. Just becaue the O's have OF depth and nothing at 1st.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2010 - 6:59 PM ET #182

    Who is that?

    Ass Hole Derek Jeter ERA on friday cost me BIG, I had NY ML.   Every time I try to make a comeback I get hit hard.  I will try again Tuesday.
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    Who is that?

    Ass Hole Derek Jeter ERA on friday cost me BIG, I had NY ML.   Every time I try to make a comeback I get hit hard.  I will try again Tuesday.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2010 - 8:57 PM ET #183

    17 - 46... 23 Games back... Jones is crap, in the last 14 Games he has scored 5 RUNS   ...and is still crap will always be crap


    I know a Jones that is better on a shitty team... Garrett Jones

























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    17 - 46... 23 Games back... Jones is crap, in the last 14 Games he has scored 5 RUNS   ...and is still crap will always be crap


    I know a Jones that is better on a shitty team... Garrett Jones

























     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2010 - 9:03 PM ET #184

    JPERO heres a fact for you...


    Adam Jones last 15 Games  has only had 2  multi hit games

    I can raise my batting average to going 1 - 4  with no game relevance scoring only 5 runs in 15 Games... In order to raise your batting average .40 in a month by having a handful of multi hit games you would have to be hitting .220 which Jones was, hes crap
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    JPERO heres a fact for you...


    Adam Jones last 15 Games  has only had 2  multi hit games

    I can raise my batting average to going 1 - 4  with no game relevance scoring only 5 runs in 15 Games... In order to raise your batting average .40 in a month by having a handful of multi hit games you would have to be hitting .220 which Jones was, hes crap
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2010 - 9:05 PM ET #185

    I won't even mention they just got swept by the Mets AT HOME...



    OH and the Mets haven't won a road series all year until this weekend ...
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    I won't even mention they just got swept by the Mets AT HOME...



    OH and the Mets haven't won a road series all year until this weekend ...
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2010 - 9:07 PM ET #186

    But If I was an Orioles fan I would get excited about a guy raising is BA from .220 to .260 as well even-though he only scored and drove in a handful of people
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2010 - 9:11 PM ET #187

    This is his 3rd full season and is a career .260 hitter... and he is a CF who can't steal bases... Beyond Overrated
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    This is his 3rd full season and is a career .260 hitter... and he is a CF who can't steal bases... Beyond Overrated
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2010 - 9:11 PM ET #188

    The Orioles suck this year. Its not that hard to see. They lost a key component to their offense and bullpen and have not been able to do anything.

    I hope they lose the rest of the game this year so they get the #1 pick and get Anthony Rendon.
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    The Orioles suck this year. Its not that hard to see. They lost a key component to their offense and bullpen and have not been able to do anything.

    I hope they lose the rest of the game this year so they get the #1 pick and get Anthony Rendon.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2010 - 9:19 PM ET #189

    Quote Originally Posted by jpero:

    Adam Jones batting first:

    .188 BA/.224 OBP/ .443 OPS

    Adam Jones batting anywhere but leadoff:

    .285 BA/ .313 OBP/.770 OPS

    Adam Jones since May 8th:

    .302 BA/.336 OBP/.773 OPS

    But yes Yankee fans ignore that his problems were because he was batting lead off an changed his whole approach. Cause as we all know you guys like to ignore facts and data.

    Do you feel better about yourself? He's hit good for the last month and he's back on track. Screw batting average, obp and ops. How many runs has he scored? How many runs has he driven in? Homers?

    You try to find any small stat to benefit you. What about the stat URISS had? What's your excuse for that?

    And why is it all about Yankee fans ignoring things? You make it out to be as if all Yankee fans are ignorant. What about the guy from California who agreed? Or G8RB8 whose a Nationals fan? The guy from Texas? Arizona? Lawson James (not sure if he's a Yankee fan)? Jumbo (DBacks fan)? thiswiseguy (from Michigan)? But only Yankee fans are the one's ignoring? Why...because we continue to fight back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpero:

    Adam Jones batting first:

    .188 BA/.224 OBP/ .443 OPS

    Adam Jones batting anywhere but leadoff:

    .285 BA/ .313 OBP/.770 OPS

    Adam Jones since May 8th:

    .302 BA/.336 OBP/.773 OPS

    But yes Yankee fans ignore that his problems were because he was batting lead off an changed his whole approach. Cause as we all know you guys like to ignore facts and data.

    Do you feel better about yourself? He's hit good for the last month and he's back on track. Screw batting average, obp and ops. How many runs has he scored? How many runs has he driven in? Homers?

    You try to find any small stat to benefit you. What about the stat URISS had? What's your excuse for that?

    And why is it all about Yankee fans ignoring things? You make it out to be as if all Yankee fans are ignorant. What about the guy from California who agreed? Or G8RB8 whose a Nationals fan? The guy from Texas? Arizona? Lawson James (not sure if he's a Yankee fan)? Jumbo (DBacks fan)? thiswiseguy (from Michigan)? But only Yankee fans are the one's ignoring? Why...because we continue to fight back?

     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2010 - 9:21 PM ET #190

    Quote Originally Posted by jpero:

    The Orioles suck this year. Its not that hard to see. They lost a key component to their offense and bullpen and have not been able to do anything.

    I hope they lose the rest of the game this year so they get the #1 pick and get Anthony Rendon.

    Lost a key component to their bullpen? Please don't tell me that is Mike Gonzalez. You did see how he pitches before he was DL'd right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpero:

    The Orioles suck this year. Its not that hard to see. They lost a key component to their offense and bullpen and have not been able to do anything.

    I hope they lose the rest of the game this year so they get the #1 pick and get Anthony Rendon.

    Lost a key component to their bullpen? Please don't tell me that is Mike Gonzalez. You did see how he pitches before he was DL'd right?

     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2010 - 9:45 PM ET #191

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

    Lost a key component to their bullpen? Please don't tell me that is Mike Gonzalez. You did see how he pitches before he was DL'd right?



    Once again making comments without knowing hte situation.

    You do know he was pitching injured before he went on the DL??

    You do know his velocity was down about over 5-6 mph.

    He tried pitching through an injury and tried compensating for his minor injury and that caused more stress and more problems that led to his injury that has kept him out all year.

    And they didnt just lose him. They lost him, the Koji (their best BP arm), Jim Johnson who was hte back up closer and set up man, and then Simon who was brought up to close and got injured.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

    Lost a key component to their bullpen? Please don't tell me that is Mike Gonzalez. You did see how he pitches before he was DL'd right?



    Once again making comments without knowing hte situation.

    You do know he was pitching injured before he went on the DL??

    You do know his velocity was down about over 5-6 mph.

    He tried pitching through an injury and tried compensating for his minor injury and that caused more stress and more problems that led to his injury that has kept him out all year.

    And they didnt just lose him. They lost him, the Koji (their best BP arm), Jim Johnson who was hte back up closer and set up man, and then Simon who was brought up to close and got injured.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2010 - 9:53 PM ET #192

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

    Do you feel better about yourself? He's hit good for the last month and he's back on track. Screw batting average, obp and ops. How many runs has he scored? How many runs has he driven in? Homers?He doenst control scoring runs. The rest of hte lineup control that stat. Homeruns are a sexy stat. They arent a tell all tale stat.

    You try to find any small stat to benefit you.  OBP is the most important and telling stat in the game of baseball. You need to get on base to score runs. The object of baseball is not NOT make an OUT. If you are not making an out then you are doing whats expected. Jones doenst even have a great OBP or OPS. They are subpar but both those numbers are rising and have been rising. The reason for his slow start and subpar numbers is because of him being in the leadoff spot and changing his approach.

    What about the stat URISS had? What's your excuse for that?

    And why is it all about Yankee fans ignoring things? You make it out to be as if all Yankee fans are ignorant. What about the guy from California who agreed? Or G8RB8 whose a Nationals fan? The guy from Texas? Arizona? Lawson James (not sure if he's a Yankee fan)? Jumbo (DBacks fan)? thiswiseguy (from Michigan)? But only Yankee fans are the one's ignoring? Why...because we continue to fight back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

    Do you feel better about yourself? He's hit good for the last month and he's back on track. Screw batting average, obp and ops. How many runs has he scored? How many runs has he driven in? Homers?He doenst control scoring runs. The rest of hte lineup control that stat. Homeruns are a sexy stat. They arent a tell all tale stat.

    You try to find any small stat to benefit you.  OBP is the most important and telling stat in the game of baseball. You need to get on base to score runs. The object of baseball is not NOT make an OUT. If you are not making an out then you are doing whats expected. Jones doenst even have a great OBP or OPS. They are subpar but both those numbers are rising and have been rising. The reason for his slow start and subpar numbers is because of him being in the leadoff spot and changing his approach.

    What about the stat URISS had? What's your excuse for that?

    And why is it all about Yankee fans ignoring things? You make it out to be as if all Yankee fans are ignorant. What about the guy from California who agreed? Or G8RB8 whose a Nationals fan? The guy from Texas? Arizona? Lawson James (not sure if he's a Yankee fan)? Jumbo (DBacks fan)? thiswiseguy (from Michigan)? But only Yankee fans are the one's ignoring? Why...because we continue to fight back?

     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2010 - 9:54 PM ET #193

    OPS is the best offensive stat there is. It incorporates getting on base and slugging (power).
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2010 - 9:56 PM ET #194

    Quote Originally Posted by jpero:



    Once again making comments without knowing hte situation.

    You do know he was pitching injured before he went on the DL??

    You do know his velocity was down about over 5-6 mph.

    He tried pitching through an injury and tried compensating for his minor injury and that caused more stress and more problems that led to his injury that has kept him out all year.

    And they didnt just lose him. They lost him, the Koji (their best BP arm), Jim Johnson who was hte back up closer and set up man, and then Simon who was brought up to close and got injured.

    Losing him doesn't make up for the rest of the garbage in that bullpen. And regardless...it's not like he's a great reliever when healthy. Simon is probably just as valuable as Gonzalez.

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    Once again making comments without knowing hte situation.

    You do know he was pitching injured before he went on the DL??

    You do know his velocity was down about over 5-6 mph.

    He tried pitching through an injury and tried compensating for his minor injury and that caused more stress and more problems that led to his injury that has kept him out all year.

    And they didnt just lose him. They lost him, the Koji (their best BP arm), Jim Johnson who was hte back up closer and set up man, and then Simon who was brought up to close and got injured.

    Losing him doesn't make up for the rest of the garbage in that bullpen. And regardless...it's not like he's a great reliever when healthy. Simon is probably just as valuable as Gonzalez.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2010 - 10:04 PM ET #195

    Who is the girl on the Avater ???????????????
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2010 - 10:10 PM ET #196

    Quote Originally Posted by stevebaily6:

    Who is the girl on the Avater ???????????????

    Who are you? Haven't seen you around these parts.

    It's Cheryl Cole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevebaily6:

    Who is the girl on the Avater ???????????????

    Who are you? Haven't seen you around these parts.

    It's Cheryl Cole.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2010 - 10:26 PM ET #197

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

    Losing him doesn't make up for the rest of the garbage in that bullpen. And regardless...it's not like he's a great reliever when healthy. Simon is probably just as valuable as Gonzalez.



    Do you just speak out the side of your mouth about players you ahve no idea about?

    I know you watch baseball and know how to interpret stats, but then you make statements like the one above that makes me scratch my head and think "you really have no clue what you are talking about".

    Mike Gonzalez for his career.:

    2.67 ERA/ 10.6 K per 9/ .215 batting average against/ 1.24 whip

    Those are pretty damn good numbers.

    Is this unnamed pitcher just as valuable as Simon?

    Career stats:

    3.00 ERA/ 10.73 k per 9/ .208 BAA/ 1.14 whip
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

    Losing him doesn't make up for the rest of the garbage in that bullpen. And regardless...it's not like he's a great reliever when healthy. Simon is probably just as valuable as Gonzalez.



    Do you just speak out the side of your mouth about players you ahve no idea about?

    I know you watch baseball and know how to interpret stats, but then you make statements like the one above that makes me scratch my head and think "you really have no clue what you are talking about".

    Mike Gonzalez for his career.:

    2.67 ERA/ 10.6 K per 9/ .215 batting average against/ 1.24 whip

    Those are pretty damn good numbers.

    Is this unnamed pitcher just as valuable as Simon?

    Career stats:

    3.00 ERA/ 10.73 k per 9/ .208 BAA/ 1.14 whip
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2010 - 10:29 PM ET #198

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

    Do you feel better about yourself? He's hit good for the last month and he's back on track. Screw batting average, obp and ops. How many runs has he scored? How many runs has he driven in? Homers?

    You try to find any small stat to benefit you. What about the stat URISS had? What's your excuse for that?

    And why is it all about Yankee fans ignoring things? You make it out to be as if all Yankee fans are ignorant. What about the guy from California who agreed? Or G8RB8 whose a Nationals fan? The guy from Texas? Arizona? Lawson James (not sure if he's a Yankee fan)? Jumbo (DBacks fan)? thiswiseguy (from Michigan)? But only Yankee fans are the one's ignoring? Why...because we continue to fight back?



    He doesn't respond to relevant statistics, only th eones that benefit his argument....  he makes so many excuses for the Orioles it's so pointless to go back and forth with him... I would be exhausted if I was him trying to figure out what to say next.... The reality of EVERYTHING is one simple thing.... The Orioles suck and so does Adam Jones... But now its ok the Orioles suck, becaus ethey will get the #1 draft pick...hahahaha like that will make a difference, they have been picking towards the top of the draft for years now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky10191:

    Do you feel better about yourself? He's hit good for the last month and he's back on track. Screw batting average, obp and ops. How many runs has he scored? How many runs has he driven in? Homers?

    You try to find any small stat to benefit you. What about the stat URISS had? What's your excuse for that?

    And why is it all about Yankee fans ignoring things? You make it out to be as if all Yankee fans are ignorant. What about the guy from California who agreed? Or G8RB8 whose a Nationals fan? The guy from Texas? Arizona? Lawson James (not sure if he's a Yankee fan)? Jumbo (DBacks fan)? thiswiseguy (from Michigan)? But only Yankee fans are the one's ignoring? Why...because we continue to fight back?



    He doesn't respond to relevant statistics, only th eones that benefit his argument....  he makes so many excuses for the Orioles it's so pointless to go back and forth with him... I would be exhausted if I was him trying to figure out what to say next.... The reality of EVERYTHING is one simple thing.... The Orioles suck and so does Adam Jones... But now its ok the Orioles suck, becaus ethey will get the #1 draft pick...hahahaha like that will make a difference, they have been picking towards the top of the draft for years now
     
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    In Adam Jones defense...he is the best Defensive outfielder in baseball right now, by a far stretch.

    SELECTIVENESS=SUCCESS
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2010 - 10:39 PM ET #200

    Quote Originally Posted by jpero:

    The Orioles suck this year. Its not that hard to see. They lost a key component to their offense and bullpen and have not been able to do anything.

    I hope they lose the rest of the game this year so they get the #1 pick and get Anthony Rendon.



    What another lame excuse... I guess not having Brian Roberts is the reason the Orioles have the 27th ranked pitching staff in MLB



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    Quote Originally Posted by jpero:

    The Orioles suck this year. Its not that hard to see. They lost a key component to their offense and bullpen and have not been able to do anything.

    I hope they lose the rest of the game this year so they get the #1 pick and get Anthony Rendon.



    What another lame excuse... I guess not having Brian Roberts is the reason the Orioles have the 27th ranked pitching staff in MLB



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