Adam Jones

Where did Pero go? I just grabbed another beer I'm not ready for bed yet

You take away Rivera, then the Yankees would have just went ahead and signed the top closer from the previous year...this year they probably would have K-Rod as their closer...despite their farm they will operate the way they do, which is being the bully of the league, every year they go after the top free agents and throw so much money that other teams can not compete with price wise....and when teams do try to compete with those prices they end up getting burned putting all their eggs in one basket and 1/3 of the time the player turns out to be a flop....the yankees do not have that problem because they have 5 different baskets so 1 flop doesn't matter.  My point is that the Yankees remind me of a monopoly in terms of the business world.

The Orioles (McPhail) are a very smart franchise now, in not attempting to compete with the Yankees until they really think that they have competitor on the field...which will take time...the play in the toughest division.  The top 4 AL East teams are the top 5 teams in baseball.....I think it is entirely unjust to compare the Orioles to poor franchise who play in divisions were the division leader is hovering around .500 like the Royals and Pirates.

 

I wrote this in post #65 of this thread.... this really proves how little you actually read when I post things....

A Yankee fan who knows and understands that the teams that won the WS, prior ot last year, was built through the farm system and bring up their own players. They won the WS playing by the same rules the other teams did. Then they strayed away from that and took advantage of the MLB system by starting to spend amounts never seen before and ti created a ripple affect throughout the league that is still seen today. They have become a team that cna outbid and take/get any player they want. They leave the scraps for hte rest of the league. A non-typical Yankee fan realizes these things and realizes how the Yankees have a clear-cut, unfair advantage over the rest of the league and every team in the league. They are still fans fo hte Yankees but do not gloat and act entitled because they are a superior franchise due to their spending capabilities.

bump...jones HR

As soon as he it the homer...I knew this was coming.

Congrats. That makes everything else he's done (or hasn't done) this season forgotten.

Bump for Sparky since he likes to rewrite history.

Started going off topic on the first page and then your Yankee buddy started saying things that were simply not even remotely true.

I corrected him and then started talking about Adam Jones but he couldnt accept being wrong so he kept it going.....

Already talked about that in the other thread. However...you're only making a fool out of Adam Jones if you continue to bump this thread.

ADAM Jones = GARBAGE

Adam Jones batting first:

.188 BA/.224 OBP/ .443 OPS

Adam Jones batting anywhere but leadoff:

.285 BA/ .313 OBP/.770 OPS

Adam Jones since May 8th:

.302 BA/.336 OBP/.773 OPS

But yes Yankee fans ignore that his problems were because he was batting lead off an changed his whole approach. Cause as we all know you guys like to ignore facts and data.

I think he is starting to adapt to life without BROB. He better because from what i hear BROB might not come back till the last few games of the season. Jonesy is def swinging the lumber better as of late.

From someone I have talked to they said some people in the Orioles management are afraid that Brob will have to undergo major back surgery. He hasnt been responding to treatments and that might be the only option available.

Also if that happens it could end his career. Thats the worst case scenario and would be a huge loss for the Orioles. He was their leader, one of hte best leadoff men in the game and one of the better 2nd baseman... And the Orioles have close to nothing in house for the middle infield positions.

I have been hearing the same things. He wants to come back real bad. He has been taking all kind of shots and what not. It will be a huge loss if he doesn't come back.

Adam was hitting .223 on May 1st

He is now at .260

So in about a month he has raised his BA by 40 points.

He still is not setting hte world on fire offensively but he is starting to hit a lot better and become more comfortable at the plate. He has also been playing better defense as of late. He was pitiful defensively, early in the season, now he is starting to play like he is capable. I would love to see him walk a little more.

Jonesy will be ok. What's going on with Wieters JPERO ?

From an advanced scout:

"Short to the ball, long through the ball" is one of the mantras of the modern baseball power swing. You really, really can't glance at just the path of the bat and diagnose the swing. (Really). It's all about the load, position of the hands up to the point of contact, weight transfer, and timing.

Jones to me is not generating much load, and therefore very little power. He has become tentative. He looks like he is trying to compensate for poor timing, essentially keeping the bat in the zone longer than he should to give himself a chance to make contact. (This is where it becomes worrisome). He just doesn't seem to anticipate pitches, or he isn't reading the pitches, or he is picking them up late.

Jonesy is being more patient. Taking more pitches.

I have a feeling since he was so great offensively, before getting to bmore, that the Orioles havent really felt a need to work with him on his offensive game. Now that is probably going to change since he is struggling too much but he just seems to be trying ot make contact instead of going up to bat and letting his talent take control.

The basically unthinkable worst case is that he is getting fooled because he simply is late in reading the spin and movement, and isn't processing that picture quickly enough. That would be depressing because it's harder to fix than mechanical or preparation issues. In fact, it may not be truly fixable at all. I can't believe it's true; you don't put up those monster numbers in the high minors without being able to pick up pitches and adjust. So right now I'm thinking that he may be mentally overwhelmed. When you are playing every day there are only limited hours in the day to take care of business, and much of that is probably devoted to being a well-prepared catcher.

Apparently, this is from the Mets announcers this weekend, Matt spends more time than anyone in the the clubhouse and video room studying batters and being properly prepared to call games. He feels since the rotation is young that it is his responsibility to be as prepared as humanly possible to make life easy for hte young staff and build confidence. Based on these comments and from the Orioles media it seems he has not done much to work on his game offensively and this has stunted his development.

He is already one of the best defensive catchers in the league. He calls a great game, leads the league in throwing out baserunners and does a great job behind the plate. I am not worried much about him offensively as there is no one in the lineup that protects him or allows him to grow and develop as a hitter. If he is hitting like this next season then it is time to start worrying about him as a player. I have a feeling he will have a good 2nd half.

Thanks buddy. I think his hitting will come around also. Too much raw talent. I do like the way he has been throwing out runners. You are right, he doesn't have a whole lot of protection in the line up.

When's your boy Felix Pie coming back?

I'll tell you what as bad as the Orioles have been this year, they get a lot of publicity on this site. 

Ha....you're right. And you know what is even funnier ? I heard today their TV ratings are up this year over last year. Go figure.