2020 Hot Stove

Good to see you Barney. What country are you in again? I hope you and yours are doing well.

Barney is an adopted Colombian. He admits to no membership in a cartel but is often spotted in suspicious activity. The jury is still out.

Sounds spot on

24 hours without a single post to the best thread currently available; that should show how we are all slipping into a coma with no (legitimate) baseball to wager on. Welcome to Brain Dead America. Now we all resemble our (puke) fearless leader. What next? We worship the Golden Calf, as he does?

There is a Famous Island that used to house members from Chicago,not for fishing but other things,I assumed your family was from sac neck of the woods.Now as to the Dago remark,since my Dad was the first of my family to be born here it would not be hard to figure out that my Dad's family was not involved like yours was in the hostile takeover,lol.

Now my Mom's family I can not say the same about but we have no info or any history pass my Mom's Dad,who I only met once when I was  about 7 or so,since he died a couple months later I assume it was Mom's good by trip,so since I know nothing That means we were not involved on both sides,Dago or Mick,lol.And I have to tell you that Baloney is not Italian lunchmeat I ever had,that fits with you hot dog guys.

Just to set the record straight, yes, there were some Micks sharing that infamous island with some Sicilians, and one very famous Neapolitan, sort of the "upper class" obviously. More potatoes, less garlic. We, however; do not deny the background that was necessary to overcome English-Protestant concepts of what America was meant to be. To some of my Eastern fellow Irishmen the pride of the movement was Boston College. No doubt you have heard that B.C. is built on Chestnut Hill. Do you know why? Because Chestnut Hill looks DOWN on the Harvard campus. B.C. stands as a symbol of religious freedom, as the founders intended it to be, not the WASP concept. You have no work, and no sports to bet on, so we may as well work on your ignorance. If you think my ancestors, only three generations, were involved in the "hostile takeover" I suppose you can make a (very weak) case for that. One of the things the Irish immigrants did was provide the back-breaking labor to build the railroad across the country. That did not involve killing either the buffalo or native Americans that were in the way. On your end of the country it was Chinese immigrants that built the railroad from YOUR area to Provo. Perhaps your granddaddy was not involved, but he and his dependents have reaped the benefits, same as the Irish descendants have reaped the benefits from Boston to Provo. Too bad those "Chinks" and "coolies" did not build a university that looks DOWN on Stanford. That would be poetic justice at work. I hope you enjoyed the history lesson and will no longer be the pot calling the kettle black. There is no innocence here, nor is there any guilt on the part of Irish immigrants anymore than on Dago immigrants. I have spoken.

All I can say is that the Pollocks left Europe to flee communism, and worked hard to make a living and raise families. In that process, we cleaned ALL your houses you dirty scoundrels 

I was ready for covid19 out of the womb 

The Pollocks left Poland because it was Poland. A flat, marshy playground for Russians, Germans and French. They held military Olympics there for a thousand years. Someone finally got smart. That flat playground was overrun at least 10 times before there were any communist countries. Salute. Praise your ancestors.

Praise your ancestors. (At least the ones that left). 

I think we've run the gamut of non baseball things to talk about.

That may be true, IRONically.

Since we have no baseball to discuss; am I the only one that thinks if the Dems were not committed to Joe Biden, Andrew Cuomo could kick Trump's derriere tomorrow? I am totally impressed with this guy. He addresses the ROOT PROBLEM, not his personal golden calf.

Agree with that, Key. Cuomo could beat Trump, but I doubt that Biden can. Especially if he picks Warren as his VP....

I'm concerned about that too, Log, especially if he picks a "politically correct" running mate, like Warren. We may have another 2016 when we had to vote for the lesser of two evils. The only redeeming factor in this race is that Pence has proven himself just another arse kissing sycophant, and he adds nothing to Trump's ticket either. 

BTW; I just realized that since we did not have any children, grandchildren, or our great grandchild over for Easter this year my wife failed to get me a chocolate bunny. I am heartbroken, devastated. 

She OWES me. 

Trump is a lifelong failure.

When the dust clears, what will be worse for our economy? Obamacare or Trump's 7 trillion $ bailout?

Hint, that's a hypothetical question

Well, hypothetically, I like the comment I saw on Trump in the political forum "He was born on third base and claims he hit a triple".

Obama can not be blamed for a bad economy. He inherited a disaster from Dubya and gave us eight straight years of secure, sustained growth. The table was set for Trump and he took advantage of it. 

The same Retardlicans that want to back him for 6 or 7 trillion were "aghast" that Obama's recovery package was 860 billion, which arrested the slide and started the recovery. 

Just who is the "fiscally conservative" party? Barry Goldwater, Everett Dirksen and John McCain must be spinning in their graves.

IRONic, isn't it?

OK, I  gotta say this, even though I'm someone who is on the outside of the US of A, I had a hunch sac, you and Key were reasonable guys, solely based on our interactions here in the MLB forum, but I'm so relieved both of you are not trumptards, especially you Key, given your age I was worried you may be one, so it is really refreshing to read logical and factual posts, like the ones above, so cheers for that

As for the orange moron, the damage he has done in "handling" this crisis is disheartening, whoever Biden picks, he must be defeated this year...

IRONically Biden was one that I thought Trump would beat also,did not think Warren would win so that one was a non factor,so what you guys should be doing today is watching Dr.Phil,he is talking about you guys drinking to get thru having to stay home,so call Phil if you need help to stay sober,he is about ready to make this Mother of 4 cry.

Get Her Phil.

As for the orange moron, the damage he has done in "handling" this crisis is disheartening, whoever Biden picks, he must be defeated this year...

yao it is surprising to me that people are thinking he has done a good job on this virus or anything,all he does is divide America and treat our Allies like crap,I believe he thinks his unwillingness to work with anyone is going to get him re-elected.and I am afraid it might work.He did not want to give working people anything and if he was in his second term when he does not have to run again he could be really scary.

Yao, one of the advantages of reaching 74+ in years is that you have heard just about every type of lie on the planet., and have a great deal of experience recognizing liars. We also have a firm, historic knowledge about what people like FDR, HST, JFK, LBJ and Barack Obama accomplished. I have a fantasy about Harry Truman standing at the Oval Office Desk and telling DJT "The buck stops HERE." and DJT saying "no it don't, I can always throw another sycophant in front of the bus."

I'd never think that I would like a political conversation here, and honestly tried avoiding it for a while. IRONically, I agree with every post so far. Like minds come together, even when we yak about sports, drugs, fishing, family etc...

Question:

I was born in 1981, my parents were immigrants who came here in 79. They didn't become citizens till approximately 12 to 15 years ago so they couldn't vote. Mom is for the Democratic party, Dad doesn't give a sh*t about politics. Both of them loved Ronald Reagan.

Let's get to the question, what is your guys opinion of him? Actor turned President. I was too young to form an educated opinion, and too lazy to read up on him.