I understand you and know what you understand.

And continue to learn we will. It's called the human experience. Or, in terms I like -  the late, great director Jon Huston said, "I want to die when I lose interest."

You probably struggle as I did,until I married a Filipina - how in the world do people like the Mormons and Fundamentalists live and conduct themselves in such an arbitrary manner? Because it's what they've been raised with and deem as normal. I bring my wife into this equation because of the way she was raised. What we would deem, in terms of the things she's eaten., as vulgar, to her it was normal. It's what she grew up with. If you saw the movie The Silence of the Lambs, Anthony Hopkins asks Jody Foster the broad question of "what do we covet?" We covet was is normal to us.

For Rostos, I believe what he's trying to say, in not great terms, is God gave man a conscious. With that conscious, we were given 10 guiding principals. In giving us a conscious, God gave us 100% domain over only 1 thing....just 1. The ability to control and direct our thoughts. That's it. What people choose to do with that 100% is what makes us all unique. We all experience the world in such different ways, but with guiding principals and the freedom to control what we think, I believe that is what God's true intention is. You are charged over your lifetime with finding where you fit into that grand scheme. But, until you've found out where you are, you'll still covet the facts that spring follows, winter, winter follows fall, if you're alive, you're voluntarily breathing, the farmer plants seeds in the spring and harvests in fall, et al..That sort of natural order comes from a much larger power than any man can explain.

How about you stop lumping us all together as 'atheists' just because we don't believe in your christian views.  I'm agnostic, I have no fucking idea what higher power there may be, nobody on here is arguing that it is 100% impossible for something to be 'greater' than ourselves.  That's atheism.

Although I'm quickly being coverted to the church of clubdirt And I'll even go to worship on Sundays!  NFL Sunday Ticket! 

OP

And u have evidence that a God doesnt exist?

Molecules and atoms that collided "just appeared"........

People on here simply want to see to believe........

You're the one who needs to have the evidence. For example, if I said I had an invisible friend, it's not your job to come up with evidence that I don't, it's my job to prove that I do. Why don't you believe in other gods? You don't have evidence that there aren't other gods Keep laughing and try again.

Ok, once and for all....

Let us have a look at the definition of "faith"

Faith -

physically prove to anyone here that a God exists.......but believers have been touched and have a presence of God in there lives...God has shaped and formed there lives because believers have accepted him into there lives.

 

[Quote: Originally Posted by Rostos]

Ok, once and for all....

Let us have a look at the definition of "faith"

Faith -

physically prove to anyone here that a God exists.......but believers have been touched and have a presence of God in there lives...God has shaped and formed there lives because believers have accepted him into there lives.

It cut half my post off....hang on i will be back

Ok..........

Lets have a look at the definition of faith.........

Faith.........belief that is not based on proof......

Non believers cannot prove that there is NO God.......Believers cannot physically prove there is a God (believers including myself have been touched by God.....God has shaped and formed there lives...........as believers have accepted him into there lives....)

So basically......believers and non believers both have faith........one group chooses to go down different paths......

BOL.....Peace........

Three points.

 

yea,,,i know,,,but debated the insane asylum makes my head hurt nowadays...........

God of vegetables huh????  count me in.........................

 

(callmejesus didn't care to comment)

 

Rostos believe in God but wishes death upon MLB players

In the original question, Crashdavis565 asks why religious people don't wish for death as a faster route to heaven.  Humans and other animals have a natural instinct for life or self-preservation.  Also people fear death and the unknown.

 

you know,,,,,professing your loyalty to the j-man is one thing,,,,,,but when people make comments like the "bible is the best book in history"     I don't even know how to respond,,,,,,,

 

THE BIBLE IS EQUIVALENT TO THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER. NUFF SAID....................... 

Only when i lose.......lol

Nah seriously.........2 things...........

1. No where have i said i am perfect - far from it........

2. Just an example of what gambling can do to u,........bible warns against gambling......

careful ace,,,,if you start pointing out the hypocrisy ---- we're gonna be here for awhile...............

I see toxicity is part of your DNA. Or better yet, what my friend from Rockland calls being a Masshole.

“I have conquered an empire but I have not been able to conquer myself.”

Peter the Great