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    HutchEmAll
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2010 - 1:57 PM ET #1226

    I still find it absolutely hilarious.  These kooks will actually put more stock in what doesn't exist (a video of the plane hitting the building) then the huge amount of EYEWITNESSES that ALL SAY THE SAME THING.

    And these people can serve on JURIES folks.  They might get to decide your fate some day, folks.  

    I can just see it.  Your wife is killed by a person....they find the gun....match it to a person using fingerprints....the whole 9 yards....eyewitnesses testify that they saw this guy shoot your wife.  And one of these complete dipshits goes back in the deliberation room and says, "There is no video of the crime...I can't be certain that this guy did it."

    What a country.   

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    I still find it absolutely hilarious.  These kooks will actually put more stock in what doesn't exist (a video of the plane hitting the building) then the huge amount of EYEWITNESSES that ALL SAY THE SAME THING.

    And these people can serve on JURIES folks.  They might get to decide your fate some day, folks.  

    I can just see it.  Your wife is killed by a person....they find the gun....match it to a person using fingerprints....the whole 9 yards....eyewitnesses testify that they saw this guy shoot your wife.  And one of these complete dipshits goes back in the deliberation room and says, "There is no video of the crime...I can't be certain that this guy did it."

    What a country.   

     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2010 - 2:35 PM ET #1227

    Good to see you are still being entertained by the ramblings and lies of smiddyo.   Post  #1083 is my favorite one ever   it was the last part of his credibility to fall.  Check in more often if smiddyo dares post anymore ot shold get better from here.
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    Good to see you are still being entertained by the ramblings and lies of smiddyo.   Post  #1083 is my favorite one ever   it was the last part of his credibility to fall.  Check in more often if smiddyo dares post anymore ot shold get better from here.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2010 - 3:23 PM ET #1228

    Quote Originally Posted by tillyo:

    Good to see you are still being entertained by the ramblings and lies of smiddyo.   Post  #1083 is my favorite one ever   it was the last part of his credibility to fall.  Check in more often if smiddyo dares post anymore ot shold get better from here.

    I couldn't stay away.  We're into the entertainment phase now. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by tillyo:

    Good to see you are still being entertained by the ramblings and lies of smiddyo.   Post  #1083 is my favorite one ever   it was the last part of his credibility to fall.  Check in more often if smiddyo dares post anymore ot shold get better from here.

    I couldn't stay away.  We're into the entertainment phase now. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2010 - 3:28 PM ET #1229

    Quote Originally Posted by smdio:

    I know I'm skipping around, but this document is an official FBI transcript of the cell phone calls made by Todd Beamer on 9/11/2001.

    Flight 93 had supposedly crashed landed at 10:03:10 on 9/11/2001.

    Can anyone explain to me how Todd Beamer made cell phone calls to a residence in New Jersey at the following times?

    11:07
    12:45
    13:37
    14:22
    14:43
    14:51
    15:30
    15:32
    15:48
    16:02
    16:05
    16:13
    16:18
    16:54
    17:37
    19:05
    19:56
    20:58

    All of these calls lasted less than 1 minute, but were rounded up for billing purposes, as all/most cell phone companies do.  

    Is it safe to say that Todd Beamer was told to keep his cell phone conversations under 1 minute in order for them to not be traced?  

    I believe so.  I'm hoping someone call tell me differently though, or explain how a man that supposed died at 10:03:10 AM on the morning of 9/11/2001 made cell phone calls up to 8:58 PM the same day.

    Todd Beamer was from my home town.  Why don't you go over and tell his widow that you didn't think he died in the crash of flight 93 and see how quickly she puts your nuts in a vice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smdio:

    I know I'm skipping around, but this document is an official FBI transcript of the cell phone calls made by Todd Beamer on 9/11/2001.

    Flight 93 had supposedly crashed landed at 10:03:10 on 9/11/2001.

    Can anyone explain to me how Todd Beamer made cell phone calls to a residence in New Jersey at the following times?

    11:07
    12:45
    13:37
    14:22
    14:43
    14:51
    15:30
    15:32
    15:48
    16:02
    16:05
    16:13
    16:18
    16:54
    17:37
    19:05
    19:56
    20:58

    All of these calls lasted less than 1 minute, but were rounded up for billing purposes, as all/most cell phone companies do.  

    Is it safe to say that Todd Beamer was told to keep his cell phone conversations under 1 minute in order for them to not be traced?  

    I believe so.  I'm hoping someone call tell me differently though, or explain how a man that supposed died at 10:03:10 AM on the morning of 9/11/2001 made cell phone calls up to 8:58 PM the same day.

    Todd Beamer was from my home town.  Why don't you go over and tell his widow that you didn't think he died in the crash of flight 93 and see how quickly she puts your nuts in a vice.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2010 - 3:29 PM ET #1230

    testify before the Library of Congress. 

    That is just brilliant. 

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    testify before the Library of Congress. 

    That is just brilliant. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2010 - 3:38 PM ET #1231

    class action suit against Cheney and Bush.

     

    Don't let the powers that be at Duke read this thread.  They will probably kick you out of their school.    

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    class action suit against Cheney and Bush.

     

    Don't let the powers that be at Duke read this thread.  They will probably kick you out of their school.    

     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2010 - 3:52 PM ET #1232

    This thread is priceless. It is the only reason I haven't died of boredom on a day off from work.

    Somebody other than Oswald getting Kennedy is not too far fetched. Wrong people get convicted of murder all the time and it doesn't necessarily take a huge conspiracy. Usually in high profile cases the police are forced to give an answer as quickly as possible and have to hide evidence or invent evidence to make their story stick.

    An attack of this magnitude is too big to be a closed circle conspiracy. Some of the evidence is very shaky. I get it; that sounds fishy. O.J's glove didn't fit but how many of us believe he didn't kill Nicole Brown.

    I believe there is plenty we are not being told. I believe that once you get people to testify in a commission type report that there will be so much ass covering that only a farce can result.

    1. I just can't bring myself to believe that two planes full of people could be created or made to disappear after the fact.
    2. I was in DC on that day. I watched the news nonstop save the one hour I tried to go to class from 9-10. The eyewitnesses stick out in my mind. Unless the news reporters interviewed dozens of plants we all know what hit the pentagon.
    3. Of course the evidence is all covered up as fast as possible. If anything can be linked to a law enforcement screw up heads will roll.
    4. Of course the Bush administration used this opportunity to push a war. That like a rapist finding the blacked out chick at 2am. Just plain evil luck.

    But all the damn nuts in the world demand absolute proof that a conspiracy did not occur. That makes absolutely zero sense. Imagine if that was the burden of proof in court.

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    This thread is priceless. It is the only reason I haven't died of boredom on a day off from work.

    Somebody other than Oswald getting Kennedy is not too far fetched. Wrong people get convicted of murder all the time and it doesn't necessarily take a huge conspiracy. Usually in high profile cases the police are forced to give an answer as quickly as possible and have to hide evidence or invent evidence to make their story stick.

    An attack of this magnitude is too big to be a closed circle conspiracy. Some of the evidence is very shaky. I get it; that sounds fishy. O.J's glove didn't fit but how many of us believe he didn't kill Nicole Brown.

    I believe there is plenty we are not being told. I believe that once you get people to testify in a commission type report that there will be so much ass covering that only a farce can result.

    1. I just can't bring myself to believe that two planes full of people could be created or made to disappear after the fact.
    2. I was in DC on that day. I watched the news nonstop save the one hour I tried to go to class from 9-10. The eyewitnesses stick out in my mind. Unless the news reporters interviewed dozens of plants we all know what hit the pentagon.
    3. Of course the evidence is all covered up as fast as possible. If anything can be linked to a law enforcement screw up heads will roll.
    4. Of course the Bush administration used this opportunity to push a war. That like a rapist finding the blacked out chick at 2am. Just plain evil luck.

    But all the damn nuts in the world demand absolute proof that a conspiracy did not occur. That makes absolutely zero sense. Imagine if that was the burden of proof in court.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 2, 2010 - 11:09 PM ET #1233

    Quote Originally Posted by smdio:

    I know I'm skipping around, but this document is an official FBI transcript of the cell phone calls made by Todd Beamer on 9/11/2001.

    Flight 93 had supposedly crashed landed at 10:03:10 on 9/11/2001.

    Can anyone explain to me how Todd Beamer made cell phone calls to a residence in New Jersey at the following times?

    11:07
    12:45
    13:37
    14:22
    14:43
    14:51
    15:30
    15:32
    15:48
    16:02
    16:05
    16:13
    16:18
    16:54
    17:37
    19:05
    19:56
    20:58

    All of these calls lasted less than 1 minute, but were rounded up for billing purposes, as all/most cell phone companies do.  

    Is it safe to say that Todd Beamer was told to keep his cell phone conversations under 1 minute in order for them to not be traced?  

    I believe so.  I'm hoping someone call tell me differently though, or explain how a man that supposed died at 10:03:10 AM on the morning of 9/11/2001 made cell phone calls up to 8:58 PM the same day.

     

    wait a minute,  ive seen you disagree with people on this thread because they are referring to government reports and you say "of course they said that, its the government,  little lie = big lie" yet you are making an argument with an fbi report.  last time i checked the fbi is a government agency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smdio:

    I know I'm skipping around, but this document is an official FBI transcript of the cell phone calls made by Todd Beamer on 9/11/2001.

    Flight 93 had supposedly crashed landed at 10:03:10 on 9/11/2001.

    Can anyone explain to me how Todd Beamer made cell phone calls to a residence in New Jersey at the following times?

    11:07
    12:45
    13:37
    14:22
    14:43
    14:51
    15:30
    15:32
    15:48
    16:02
    16:05
    16:13
    16:18
    16:54
    17:37
    19:05
    19:56
    20:58

    All of these calls lasted less than 1 minute, but were rounded up for billing purposes, as all/most cell phone companies do.  

    Is it safe to say that Todd Beamer was told to keep his cell phone conversations under 1 minute in order for them to not be traced?  

    I believe so.  I'm hoping someone call tell me differently though, or explain how a man that supposed died at 10:03:10 AM on the morning of 9/11/2001 made cell phone calls up to 8:58 PM the same day.

     

    wait a minute,  ive seen you disagree with people on this thread because they are referring to government reports and you say "of course they said that, its the government,  little lie = big lie" yet you are making an argument with an fbi report.  last time i checked the fbi is a government agency.

     
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    I have one word for you:

    Christian Laettner

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    I have one word for you:

    Christian Laettner

     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2010 - 1:03 AM ET #1235

    His excuse for being away should be epic. He better come back soon   he is taking quite a beating.           I said beating.
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    His excuse for being away should be epic. He better come back soon   he is taking quite a beating.           I said beating.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

    I still find it absolutely hilarious.  These kooks will actually put more stock in what doesn't exist (a video of the plane hitting the building) then the huge amount of EYEWITNESSES that ALL SAY THE SAME THING.

    And these people can serve on JURIES folks.  They might get to decide your fate some day, folks.  

    I can just see it.  Your wife is killed by a person....they find the gun....match it to a person using fingerprints....the whole 9 yards....eyewitnesses testify that they saw this guy shoot your wife.  And one of these complete dipshits goes back in the deliberation room and says, "There is no video of the crime...I can't be certain that this guy did it."

    What a country.   

    Are you really that brainwashed that you think there is NO video of whatever hit the Pentagon?  What flavour of Kool-aid do you prefer? 

     

    As far as what I highlighted in RED....

    I guess that if 10 people told you that they were in the woods and saw 6 unicorns playing volleyball against 6 walruses .....You wouldn't ask for a picture or video....Just believe them and ask   "Who won?" 

     HUTCHILLYO

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    Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

    I still find it absolutely hilarious.  These kooks will actually put more stock in what doesn't exist (a video of the plane hitting the building) then the huge amount of EYEWITNESSES that ALL SAY THE SAME THING.

    And these people can serve on JURIES folks.  They might get to decide your fate some day, folks.  

    I can just see it.  Your wife is killed by a person....they find the gun....match it to a person using fingerprints....the whole 9 yards....eyewitnesses testify that they saw this guy shoot your wife.  And one of these complete dipshits goes back in the deliberation room and says, "There is no video of the crime...I can't be certain that this guy did it."

    What a country.   

    Are you really that brainwashed that you think there is NO video of whatever hit the Pentagon?  What flavour of Kool-aid do you prefer? 

     

    As far as what I highlighted in RED....

    I guess that if 10 people told you that they were in the woods and saw 6 unicorns playing volleyball against 6 walruses .....You wouldn't ask for a picture or video....Just believe them and ask   "Who won?" 

     HUTCHILLYO

     
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    you can't get a BJ in the white house without the world finding out, this would take to many people that would have to hate America, and i feel that hate is the key word here and thats why at the end of the day i don't see it

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    you can't get a BJ in the white house without the world finding out, this would take to many people that would have to hate America, and i feel that hate is the key word here and thats why at the end of the day i don't see it

     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2010 - 11:33 AM ET #1238

    Quote Originally Posted by coldsnap55:

    Are you really that brainwashed that you think there is NO video of whatever hit the Pentagon?  What flavour of Kool-aid do you prefer? 

     

    As far as what I highlighted in RED....

    I guess that if 10 people told you that they were in the woods and saw 6 unicorns playing volleyball against 6 walruses .....You wouldn't ask for a picture or video....Just believe them and ask   "Who won?" 

     HUTCHILLYO

                                                          walruses in the woods? how stupid.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by coldsnap55:

    Are you really that brainwashed that you think there is NO video of whatever hit the Pentagon?  What flavour of Kool-aid do you prefer? 

     

    As far as what I highlighted in RED....

    I guess that if 10 people told you that they were in the woods and saw 6 unicorns playing volleyball against 6 walruses .....You wouldn't ask for a picture or video....Just believe them and ask   "Who won?" 

     HUTCHILLYO

                                                          walruses in the woods? how stupid.  
     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2010 - 12:00 PM ET #1239

    Quote Originally Posted by coldsnap55:

    Are you really that brainwashed that you think there is NO video of whatever hit the Pentagon?  What flavour of Kool-aid do you prefer? 

     

    As far as what I highlighted in RED....

    I guess that if 10 people told you that they were in the woods and saw 6 unicorns playing volleyball against 6 walruses .....You wouldn't ask for a picture or video....Just believe them and ask   "Who won?" 

     HUTCHILLYO

    If forensic scientists went into the woods and identified both unicorn and walrus shit on site......and a volleyball......and a scoreboard saying the unicorns beat the walruses 3 games to 2.....and there was a volleyball court there.....and there were a bunch of unicorn and walrus footprints that were positively identified.....then yes, I'd believe them.

    You are laughable. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by coldsnap55:

    Are you really that brainwashed that you think there is NO video of whatever hit the Pentagon?  What flavour of Kool-aid do you prefer? 

     

    As far as what I highlighted in RED....

    I guess that if 10 people told you that they were in the woods and saw 6 unicorns playing volleyball against 6 walruses .....You wouldn't ask for a picture or video....Just believe them and ask   "Who won?" 

     HUTCHILLYO

    If forensic scientists went into the woods and identified both unicorn and walrus shit on site......and a volleyball......and a scoreboard saying the unicorns beat the walruses 3 games to 2.....and there was a volleyball court there.....and there were a bunch of unicorn and walrus footprints that were positively identified.....then yes, I'd believe them.

    You are laughable. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2010 - 12:03 PM ET #1240

    Quote Originally Posted by boberts427:

    you can't get a BJ in the white house without the world finding out, this would take to many people that would have to hate America, and i feel that hate is the key word here and thats why at the end of the day i don't see it

    Isn't that a hoot?  The government is so completely idiotic in tehir ways yet so brilliant that they have covered up one of the biggest events in modern times. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by boberts427:

    you can't get a BJ in the white house without the world finding out, this would take to many people that would have to hate America, and i feel that hate is the key word here and thats why at the end of the day i don't see it

    Isn't that a hoot?  The government is so completely idiotic in tehir ways yet so brilliant that they have covered up one of the biggest events in modern times. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2010 - 12:29 PM ET #1241

    And last time I checked, video evidence shows planes slamming into the 2 WTC towers.  Yet the government....in their infinite wisdom, decides to blow up the pentagon with a military plane or a missile (another area where the conspiracy nuts can't even come to consensus).

    Yet another brilliant idea by a group of people who can't even keep a 2 bit hacker from accessing their most secret diplomatic records. 

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    And last time I checked, video evidence shows planes slamming into the 2 WTC towers.  Yet the government....in their infinite wisdom, decides to blow up the pentagon with a military plane or a missile (another area where the conspiracy nuts can't even come to consensus).

    Yet another brilliant idea by a group of people who can't even keep a 2 bit hacker from accessing their most secret diplomatic records. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2010 - 3:56 PM ET #1242

    Quote Originally Posted by Hutchillyo:

    If my government told me that forensic scientists went into the woods and identified both unicorn and walrus shit on site......and a volleyball......and a scoreboard saying the unicorns beat the walruses 3 games to 2.....and there was a volleyball court there.....and there were a bunch of unicorn and walrus footprints that were positively identified.....then yes, I'd believe them.

    You are laughable. 

    Fixed it for you. 

     

    God Bless America....Drink up.  

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hutchillyo:

    If my government told me that forensic scientists went into the woods and identified both unicorn and walrus shit on site......and a volleyball......and a scoreboard saying the unicorns beat the walruses 3 games to 2.....and there was a volleyball court there.....and there were a bunch of unicorn and walrus footprints that were positively identified.....then yes, I'd believe them.

    You are laughable. 

    Fixed it for you. 

     

    God Bless America....Drink up.  

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2010 - 4:32 PM ET #1243

    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

    How about the hundreds of eyewitnesses that did see the plane. Moreso, the debris from the plane would have reached past the first concentric ring. You do understand that the plane entered past the first ring. Think about this..a plane crashes through a shack into a building. Will the core of the plane debris be at the shack or where the plane broke apart? The Pentagon is an interesting building with each concentric ring more secure than the rest as you reach the center. The southside, also known as the Heliport facade, is the weakest entry point, a fact that the terrorists stumbled upon with luck, not with knowledge I hope. This allowed the plane to enter into the permimeter of the secondary ring, where it struck the ground and broke apart. Due to Pentagon security, this was pretty much out of the sight of the public.

    What exactly are you arguing?  By posting what you posted here, it shows very clearly that you have not watched this video yet.

    After you watch the video, please come back and tell me that Flight 77 took a NoC approach to the Pentagon and yet still was able to make the damage that it did.

    I have a feeling that I'll be waiting for quite a long time, because if Flight 77 took a NoC approach to the Pentagon, it is impossible that the plane hit the building.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

    How about the hundreds of eyewitnesses that did see the plane. Moreso, the debris from the plane would have reached past the first concentric ring. You do understand that the plane entered past the first ring. Think about this..a plane crashes through a shack into a building. Will the core of the plane debris be at the shack or where the plane broke apart? The Pentagon is an interesting building with each concentric ring more secure than the rest as you reach the center. The southside, also known as the Heliport facade, is the weakest entry point, a fact that the terrorists stumbled upon with luck, not with knowledge I hope. This allowed the plane to enter into the permimeter of the secondary ring, where it struck the ground and broke apart. Due to Pentagon security, this was pretty much out of the sight of the public.

    What exactly are you arguing?  By posting what you posted here, it shows very clearly that you have not watched this video yet.

    After you watch the video, please come back and tell me that Flight 77 took a NoC approach to the Pentagon and yet still was able to make the damage that it did.

    I have a feeling that I'll be waiting for quite a long time, because if Flight 77 took a NoC approach to the Pentagon, it is impossible that the plane hit the building.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2010 - 4:39 PM ET #1244

    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

    Well....

    1) there are tons and tons of photos, videos, and eyewitness accounts. The problem is that we use the Trade Center comparison. Almost all of the videos taken of the planes hitting the towers are provate videos and most of them are the second strike (people were filming the fire in the first center.

    2) We often get confused on the timeline of events. At the time the Pengtagon was hit, over 500 planes remained in the air and unaccounted for. The government simply had no more of indication that the Pentagon was in danger than they did that a plane would strike the downtown area of a major city. In fact, as the Pentagon was hit, jet planes were moving towards all of the major cities in the east coast. https://www.wanttoknow.info/011016nytimes

    3) Actually, had the hijackers wanted to do the most damage, they would have brought the jet down on top of the Pentagon. Many theorize that was their plane.

    I am not aware of any concrete evidence of explosives in the Trade Towers.

    To answer these points:

    1.)  Good point, but did you know that there are 158 cameras that are focused on the Pentagon at all times?  Of the 158, roughly 80 of them would have had a clear view of Flight 77 crashing into the building.  Yet the government has released 4 of the 80 tapes, and none of the 4 show Flight 77, or any aircraft for that matter.

    2.)  Absolutely, simply, 100% FALSE. Norman Mineta was with the Vice President Dick Cheney at the time Flight 77 was heading towards the Pentagon.  Mineta discribes the VP's actions as Flight 77 was approaching. 

     

    "100 miles out.  50 miles out.  20 miles out.  Do the orders still stand?"  Cheney's aid says.

    "Of course they still stand!  Have you heard anything different?"

     

    This is very clear evidence that the VP and the rest of our government knew exactly where Flight 77 was going, and could have stopped it very easily. 

     

    3.) You are 100% correct here.  And this is just more evidence that it was planned.  The area of the Pentagon that was hit was the only area of the Pentagon that was reinforced to be able to withstand an impact of a high velocity aircraft and/or missile. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by djbrow:

    Well....

    1) there are tons and tons of photos, videos, and eyewitness accounts. The problem is that we use the Trade Center comparison. Almost all of the videos taken of the planes hitting the towers are provate videos and most of them are the second strike (people were filming the fire in the first center.

    2) We often get confused on the timeline of events. At the time the Pengtagon was hit, over 500 planes remained in the air and unaccounted for. The government simply had no more of indication that the Pentagon was in danger than they did that a plane would strike the downtown area of a major city. In fact, as the Pentagon was hit, jet planes were moving towards all of the major cities in the east coast. https://www.wanttoknow.info/011016nytimes

    3) Actually, had the hijackers wanted to do the most damage, they would have brought the jet down on top of the Pentagon. Many theorize that was their plane.

    I am not aware of any concrete evidence of explosives in the Trade Towers.

    To answer these points:

    1.)  Good point, but did you know that there are 158 cameras that are focused on the Pentagon at all times?  Of the 158, roughly 80 of them would have had a clear view of Flight 77 crashing into the building.  Yet the government has released 4 of the 80 tapes, and none of the 4 show Flight 77, or any aircraft for that matter.

    2.)  Absolutely, simply, 100% FALSE. Norman Mineta was with the Vice President Dick Cheney at the time Flight 77 was heading towards the Pentagon.  Mineta discribes the VP's actions as Flight 77 was approaching. 

     

    "100 miles out.  50 miles out.  20 miles out.  Do the orders still stand?"  Cheney's aid says.

    "Of course they still stand!  Have you heard anything different?"

     

    This is very clear evidence that the VP and the rest of our government knew exactly where Flight 77 was going, and could have stopped it very easily. 

     

    3.) You are 100% correct here.  And this is just more evidence that it was planned.  The area of the Pentagon that was hit was the only area of the Pentagon that was reinforced to be able to withstand an impact of a high velocity aircraft and/or missile. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2010 - 4:47 PM ET #1245

    Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

    I still find it absolutely hilarious.  These kooks will actually put more stock in what doesn't exist (a video of the plane hitting the building) then the huge amount of EYEWITNESSES that ALL SAY THE SAME THING.

    And these people can serve on JURIES folks.  They might get to decide your fate some day, folks.  

    I can just see it.  Your wife is killed by a person....they find the gun....match it to a person using fingerprints....the whole 9 yards....eyewitnesses testify that they saw this guy shoot your wife.  And one of these complete dipshits goes back in the deliberation room and says, "There is no video of the crime...I can't be certain that this guy did it."

    What a country.   

    Hundreds of witnesses all saying the same thing.  I'm sooooo glad you just said that.

    I pose to you a question (since I haven't seen you in a while):

    If Flight 77 took a Northern approach to the Pentagon (refered to as NoC - North of Columbia pike), do you agree that it would be 100% scientifically impossible for the aircraft to have hit the Pentagon, and also the downed light poles?

    You will need to watch this video first.  I understand it is over an hour long, but if you really want to debate and contribute to this thread, you really need to watch it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

    I still find it absolutely hilarious.  These kooks will actually put more stock in what doesn't exist (a video of the plane hitting the building) then the huge amount of EYEWITNESSES that ALL SAY THE SAME THING.

    And these people can serve on JURIES folks.  They might get to decide your fate some day, folks.  

    I can just see it.  Your wife is killed by a person....they find the gun....match it to a person using fingerprints....the whole 9 yards....eyewitnesses testify that they saw this guy shoot your wife.  And one of these complete dipshits goes back in the deliberation room and says, "There is no video of the crime...I can't be certain that this guy did it."

    What a country.   

    Hundreds of witnesses all saying the same thing.  I'm sooooo glad you just said that.

    I pose to you a question (since I haven't seen you in a while):

    If Flight 77 took a Northern approach to the Pentagon (refered to as NoC - North of Columbia pike), do you agree that it would be 100% scientifically impossible for the aircraft to have hit the Pentagon, and also the downed light poles?

    You will need to watch this video first.  I understand it is over an hour long, but if you really want to debate and contribute to this thread, you really need to watch it.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

    Todd Beamer was from my home town.  Why don't you go over and tell his widow that you didn't think he died in the crash of flight 93 and see how quickly she puts your nuts in a vice.

    His widow just bought a $1.99 million house, by the way. I'm very aware of her and she's also very aware of me. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by HutchEmAll:

    Todd Beamer was from my home town.  Why don't you go over and tell his widow that you didn't think he died in the crash of flight 93 and see how quickly she puts your nuts in a vice.

    His widow just bought a $1.99 million house, by the way. I'm very aware of her and she's also very aware of me. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2010 - 5:00 PM ET #1247

    Sorry I've been away, by the way.  Dealing with some stuff and didn't have time to read all the replies. 

    tillyo = smdio ?  That is absolutely brilliant..  

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    Sorry I've been away, by the way.  Dealing with some stuff and didn't have time to read all the replies. 

    tillyo = smdio ?  That is absolutely brilliant..  

     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2010 - 6:51 PM ET #1248

    Tillyos page    deal with it!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2010 - 6:59 PM ET #1249

    Quote Originally Posted by smdio:

    Yes, they all testified before the Library of Congress just a few short weeks after 9/11/2001.  This would be under oath, since anytime you speak to a Congressional Committee, you get sworn in

    Is that the best you can do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smdio:

    Yes, they all testified before the Library of Congress just a few short weeks after 9/11/2001.  This would be under oath, since anytime you speak to a Congressional Committee, you get sworn in

    Is that the best you can do?

                                                    SMIDDYO THINKS THE LIBRARY OF CONGRESS IS A CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEE!!!!!!!!!!!       
     
     
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    I can't explain any better than I already have about the relation between the Library of Congress, Research Committees that they operate, and the people who sit on those Research Committees. 

    But I do think it's hilarious that you keep quoted that statement.  You're starting to grow on me, keep it up 
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    I can't explain any better than I already have about the relation between the Library of Congress, Research Committees that they operate, and the people who sit on those Research Committees. 

    But I do think it's hilarious that you keep quoted that statement.  You're starting to grow on me, keep it up 
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