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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2010 - 7:55 PM ET #1176

    If you want more of a discussion about this smdio, please PM me.
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    If you want more of a discussion about this smdio, please PM me.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2010 - 7:55 PM ET #1177

    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:



    Either way smdio, I don't think you get what I am saying. A private litigant cannot bring a civil lawsuit for Obstruction of Justice and Treason. A private litigant cannot even bring a criminal lawsuit for Obstruction of Justice and Treason -- only a District Attorney or Attorney General could.

    Whoever is telling you different is just playing on your emotions and taking your money while lying to you. That's the God's honest truth, smdio. We may disagree about 9/11 conspiracy stuff, but I don't want to see someone get taken advantage of.

    If you really care to know, I'll give you the details in PM, but not here for everyone to see.  I'm purposely being misleading (which you've called me on, congrats), as I simply cannot get into detail publicly in this type of forum, for obvious reasons (which it sounds to me that you're very aware of) 
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:



    Either way smdio, I don't think you get what I am saying. A private litigant cannot bring a civil lawsuit for Obstruction of Justice and Treason. A private litigant cannot even bring a criminal lawsuit for Obstruction of Justice and Treason -- only a District Attorney or Attorney General could.

    Whoever is telling you different is just playing on your emotions and taking your money while lying to you. That's the God's honest truth, smdio. We may disagree about 9/11 conspiracy stuff, but I don't want to see someone get taken advantage of.

    If you really care to know, I'll give you the details in PM, but not here for everyone to see.  I'm purposely being misleading (which you've called me on, congrats), as I simply cannot get into detail publicly in this type of forum, for obvious reasons (which it sounds to me that you're very aware of) 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2010 - 7:55 PM ET #1178

    Now I'm going to pass out.  Lots of replies to look forward to tomorrow 

    Cya guys
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    Now I'm going to pass out.  Lots of replies to look forward to tomorrow 

    Cya guys
     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2010 - 7:57 PM ET #1179

    I friended you smdio, accept and PM me and we can discuss.
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    I friended you smdio, accept and PM me and we can discuss.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2010 - 9:46 PM ET #1180

    smdio, accept and PM me, I have some info I'd like to share with you.
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    smdio, accept and PM me, I have some info I'd like to share with you.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2010 - 10:21 PM ET #1181

    Quote Originally Posted by smdio:

    Yes, they all testified before the Library of Congress just a few short weeks after 9/11/2001.  This would be under oath, since anytime you speak to a Congressional Committee, you get sworn in

    Is that the best you can do?         In case anybody missed thissmiddyo thinks the library of congress is congressional committee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smdio:

    Yes, they all testified before the Library of Congress just a few short weeks after 9/11/2001.  This would be under oath, since anytime you speak to a Congressional Committee, you get sworn in

    Is that the best you can do?         In case anybody missed thissmiddyo thinks the library of congress is congressional committee.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 29, 2010 - 10:24 PM ET #1182

    WOW!!!!!!!!!      he sure mixes up what he says and what he menat to say alot class action    you are doing yourself proud smiddyo. And keeping me laughing.  Your team of lawyers should sue me.
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    WOW!!!!!!!!!      he sure mixes up what he says and what he menat to say alot class action    you are doing yourself proud smiddyo. And keeping me laughing.  Your team of lawyers should sue me.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2010 - 12:43 AM ET #1183

    smdio please correct your  statement or explain about testifying in front of the library of congress. Tillyo   you need to lighten up you are being a bully  notice my username I am making fun of you.
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    smdio please correct your  statement or explain about testifying in front of the library of congress. Tillyo   you need to lighten up you are being a bully  notice my username I am making fun of you.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2010 - 3:06 AM ET #1184

    Quote Originally Posted by sillyo:

    smdio please correct your  statement or explain about testifying in front of the library of congress. Tillyo   you need to lighten up you are being a bully  notice my username I am making fun of you.

     

    wow to have to tell the guy that your name is a joke to his is pretty pathetic on your part

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    Quote Originally Posted by sillyo:

    smdio please correct your  statement or explain about testifying in front of the library of congress. Tillyo   you need to lighten up you are being a bully  notice my username I am making fun of you.

     

    wow to have to tell the guy that your name is a joke to his is pretty pathetic on your part

     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2010 - 4:30 AM ET #1185

    I know most of you having good intentions when they respond to this thread as most want to express their views because this event has personally impacted them in some way or form.  

    There is such a diversity of opinion out here on this issue in particular.  

    While being American gives us freedom of speech, we must also realize that kind of freedom is not free.  If we want to use freedom of speech we must use it in a constructive way or it will work against its very premise.  

    Please show respect to those who risked and lost their lives in 9/11/01.


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    I know most of you having good intentions when they respond to this thread as most want to express their views because this event has personally impacted them in some way or form.  

    There is such a diversity of opinion out here on this issue in particular.  

    While being American gives us freedom of speech, we must also realize that kind of freedom is not free.  If we want to use freedom of speech we must use it in a constructive way or it will work against its very premise.  

    Please show respect to those who risked and lost their lives in 9/11/01.


     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2010 - 4:51 AM ET #1186

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikado:

    I know most of you having good intentions when they respond to this thread as most want to express their views because this event has personally impacted them in some way or form.  

    There is such a diversity of opinion out here on this issue in particular.  

    While being American gives us freedom of speech, we must also realize that kind of freedom is not free.  If we want to use freedom of speech we must use it in a constructive way or it will work against its very premise.  

    Please show respect to those who risked and lost their lives in 9/11/01.





    I concur.  This is paramount.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikado:

    I know most of you having good intentions when they respond to this thread as most want to express their views because this event has personally impacted them in some way or form.  

    There is such a diversity of opinion out here on this issue in particular.  

    While being American gives us freedom of speech, we must also realize that kind of freedom is not free.  If we want to use freedom of speech we must use it in a constructive way or it will work against its very premise.  

    Please show respect to those who risked and lost their lives in 9/11/01.





    I concur.  This is paramount.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2010 - 7:44 AM ET #1187

    Quote Originally Posted by smdio:

    Can't sleep.  

    I was going to withhold this information until someone got a bit further along in debunking my NoC theory about Flight 77, but since it appears no one is willing to do that, I'm going to throw this out there as well.

    This is a document from the NTSB (National Transportation and Safety Board) which details every action of Flight 77 on 9/11/2001.  It's 36 pages long, but does contain quite an interesting line of text:

    "The FDR is one of two “black boxes” in every commercial airliner, which are used after accidents to help determine the cause of a crash. One black box records flight data, the other records voice data (everything said in the cockpit during the flight). With those two sets of data, NTSB investigators can usually piece together the events that led to a crash. The status of the door to the cockpit is checked every four seconds throughout a flight and relayed as a simple 0 or 1, where 0=closed and 1=open, with approximately 1,300 door status checks performed during AA77’s 90 minute flight. Every one of those door status checks shows as a 0, indicating that the door to the cockpit never opened during the entire flight. "

    Adding to the already overwhelming evidence that Flight 77 was not hijacked and did not hit the Pentagon, it now appears that the cockpit door of Flight 77 was never opened after takeoff.

    Can anyone explain to me how a commercial flight can be hijacked if the cockpit door was never opened?

    Oh, that's right.  It was never hijacked to begin with.


    You did not answer kaponofor3 question post #1155.

    Like wise I wasted time looking at all 36 pages but failed to see the text. The document does not say those things.

    This is similar to when you quoted the FEMA post 1115 as saying that they had found Nano-Thermite.The linked document did not say that or anything like it.

    So on 2 occasions posts #1155  and 1115 you have misquoted significant documents to try to support your conspiracy views.

    Could you explain why you did this.


    Please don't misquote documents then ask people to instead read between the lines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smdio:

    Can't sleep.  

    I was going to withhold this information until someone got a bit further along in debunking my NoC theory about Flight 77, but since it appears no one is willing to do that, I'm going to throw this out there as well.

    This is a document from the NTSB (National Transportation and Safety Board) which details every action of Flight 77 on 9/11/2001.  It's 36 pages long, but does contain quite an interesting line of text:

    "The FDR is one of two “black boxes” in every commercial airliner, which are used after accidents to help determine the cause of a crash. One black box records flight data, the other records voice data (everything said in the cockpit during the flight). With those two sets of data, NTSB investigators can usually piece together the events that led to a crash. The status of the door to the cockpit is checked every four seconds throughout a flight and relayed as a simple 0 or 1, where 0=closed and 1=open, with approximately 1,300 door status checks performed during AA77’s 90 minute flight. Every one of those door status checks shows as a 0, indicating that the door to the cockpit never opened during the entire flight. "

    Adding to the already overwhelming evidence that Flight 77 was not hijacked and did not hit the Pentagon, it now appears that the cockpit door of Flight 77 was never opened after takeoff.

    Can anyone explain to me how a commercial flight can be hijacked if the cockpit door was never opened?

    Oh, that's right.  It was never hijacked to begin with.


    You did not answer kaponofor3 question post #1155.

    Like wise I wasted time looking at all 36 pages but failed to see the text. The document does not say those things.

    This is similar to when you quoted the FEMA post 1115 as saying that they had found Nano-Thermite.The linked document did not say that or anything like it.

    So on 2 occasions posts #1155  and 1115 you have misquoted significant documents to try to support your conspiracy views.

    Could you explain why you did this.


    Please don't misquote documents then ask people to instead read between the lines.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2010 - 8:36 AM ET #1188

    Quote Originally Posted by smdio:

    Can't sleep.  

    I was going to withhold this information until someone got a bit further along in debunking my NoC theory about Flight 77, but since it appears no one is willing to do that, I'm going to throw this out there as well.

    This is a document from the NTSB (National Transportation and Safety Board) which details every action of Flight 77 on 9/11/2001.  It's 36 pages long, but does contain quite an interesting line of text:

    "The FDR is one of two “black boxes” in every commercial airliner, which are used after accidents to help determine the cause of a crash. One black box records flight data, the other records voice data (everything said in the cockpit during the flight). With those two sets of data, NTSB investigators can usually piece together the events that led to a crash. The status of the door to the cockpit is checked every four seconds throughout a flight and relayed as a simple 0 or 1, where 0=closed and 1=open, with approximately 1,300 door status checks performed during AA77’s 90 minute flight. Every one of those door status checks shows as a 0, indicating that the door to the cockpit never opened during the entire flight. "

    Adding to the already overwhelming evidence that Flight 77 was not hijacked and did not hit the Pentagon, it now appears that the cockpit door of Flight 77 was never opened after takeoff.

    Can anyone explain to me how a commercial flight can be hijacked if the cockpit door was never opened?

    Oh, that's right.  It was never hijacked to begin with.



    did you get this from these links
    https://rockcreekfreepress.tumblr.com/post/285492999/flt77fdr

    https://www.sott.net/articles/show/201020-Flight-77-Cockpit-Door-Never-Opened-During-9-11-Hijack-


    Lets just stick to what the original 36 page NTSB  actually stated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smdio:

    Can't sleep.  

    I was going to withhold this information until someone got a bit further along in debunking my NoC theory about Flight 77, but since it appears no one is willing to do that, I'm going to throw this out there as well.

    This is a document from the NTSB (National Transportation and Safety Board) which details every action of Flight 77 on 9/11/2001.  It's 36 pages long, but does contain quite an interesting line of text:

    "The FDR is one of two “black boxes” in every commercial airliner, which are used after accidents to help determine the cause of a crash. One black box records flight data, the other records voice data (everything said in the cockpit during the flight). With those two sets of data, NTSB investigators can usually piece together the events that led to a crash. The status of the door to the cockpit is checked every four seconds throughout a flight and relayed as a simple 0 or 1, where 0=closed and 1=open, with approximately 1,300 door status checks performed during AA77’s 90 minute flight. Every one of those door status checks shows as a 0, indicating that the door to the cockpit never opened during the entire flight. "

    Adding to the already overwhelming evidence that Flight 77 was not hijacked and did not hit the Pentagon, it now appears that the cockpit door of Flight 77 was never opened after takeoff.

    Can anyone explain to me how a commercial flight can be hijacked if the cockpit door was never opened?

    Oh, that's right.  It was never hijacked to begin with.



    did you get this from these links
    https://rockcreekfreepress.tumblr.com/post/285492999/flt77fdr

    https://www.sott.net/articles/show/201020-Flight-77-Cockpit-Door-Never-Opened-During-9-11-Hijack-


    Lets just stick to what the original 36 page NTSB  actually stated.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2010 - 10:11 AM ET #1189

    Quote Originally Posted by smdio:

    Yes, they all testified before the Library of Congress just a few short weeks after 9/11/2001.  This would be under oath, since anytime you speak to a Congressional Committee, you get sworn in

    Is that the best you can do?

                                                     Smiddyo thinks the library of congress is a congressional committe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smdio:

    Yes, they all testified before the Library of Congress just a few short weeks after 9/11/2001.  This would be under oath, since anytime you speak to a Congressional Committee, you get sworn in

    Is that the best you can do?

                                                     Smiddyo thinks the library of congress is a congressional committe.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2010 - 10:17 AM ET #1190

    Quote Originally Posted by BLU-82:



    You did not answer kaponofor3 question post #1155.

    Like wise I wasted time looking at all 36 pages but failed to see the text. The document does not say those things.

    This is similar to when you quoted the FEMA post 1115 as saying that they had found Nano-Thermite.The linked document did not say that or anything like it.

    So on 2 occasions posts #1155  and 1115 you have misquoted significant documents to try to support your conspiracy views.

    Could you explain why you did this.


    Please don't misquote documents then ask people to instead read between the lines.
                                                      He is a liar. He has been making things up the whole time     from his  first post. He is not here to be open  he is here to try to change everybodys mind who doesn't agree with him. BTW   he thinks the library of congress is a congressional committee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLU-82:



    You did not answer kaponofor3 question post #1155.

    Like wise I wasted time looking at all 36 pages but failed to see the text. The document does not say those things.

    This is similar to when you quoted the FEMA post 1115 as saying that they had found Nano-Thermite.The linked document did not say that or anything like it.

    So on 2 occasions posts #1155  and 1115 you have misquoted significant documents to try to support your conspiracy views.

    Could you explain why you did this.


    Please don't misquote documents then ask people to instead read between the lines.
                                                      He is a liar. He has been making things up the whole time     from his  first post. He is not here to be open  he is here to try to change everybodys mind who doesn't agree with him. BTW   he thinks the library of congress is a congressional committee.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2010 - 10:20 AM ET #1191

    Quote Originally Posted by tillyo:

                                                      He is a liar. He has been making things up the whole time     from his  first post. He is not here to be open  he is here to try to change everybodys mind who doesn't agree with him. BTW   he thinks the library of congress is a congressional committee.



    certainly appears to be the case


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    Quote Originally Posted by tillyo:

                                                      He is a liar. He has been making things up the whole time     from his  first post. He is not here to be open  he is here to try to change everybodys mind who doesn't agree with him. BTW   he thinks the library of congress is a congressional committee.



    certainly appears to be the case


     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2010 - 1:17 PM ET #1192

    I'm still waiting for my PM from smdio
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    I'm still waiting for my PM from smdio
     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2010 - 1:25 PM ET #1193

    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:

    I'm still waiting for my PM from smdio



    He might feel that you may be a conspirator, or one of the Bilderbergs
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:

    I'm still waiting for my PM from smdio



    He might feel that you may be a conspirator, or one of the Bilderbergs
     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2010 - 1:34 PM ET #1194

    Quote Originally Posted by sillyo:

    smdio please correct your  statement or explain about testifying in front of the library of congress. Tillyo   you need to lighten up you are being a bully  notice my username I am making fun of you.

    I've done this in posts 1152 and 1163.  I will not repeat myself for a third time. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by sillyo:

    smdio please correct your  statement or explain about testifying in front of the library of congress. Tillyo   you need to lighten up you are being a bully  notice my username I am making fun of you.

    I've done this in posts 1152 and 1163.  I will not repeat myself for a third time. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2010 - 1:37 PM ET #1195

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikado:

    I know most of you having good intentions when they respond to this thread as most want to express their views because this event has personally impacted them in some way or form.  

    There is such a diversity of opinion out here on this issue in particular.  

    While being American gives us freedom of speech, we must also realize that kind of freedom is not free.  If we want to use freedom of speech we must use it in a constructive way or it will work against its very premise.  

    Please show respect to those who risked and lost their lives in 9/11/01.



    I respect your view on this, but please keep in mind that my entire reason for continuing this "crusade" is because I lost my father (and essentially my mother because of my father's death) because of the false-flag 9/11 operation.  If anyone has sympathy for those that died on 9/11, it's me.  Many, many people died incredulously at the hands of our government, and nothing can be more disgusting than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikado:

    I know most of you having good intentions when they respond to this thread as most want to express their views because this event has personally impacted them in some way or form.  

    There is such a diversity of opinion out here on this issue in particular.  

    While being American gives us freedom of speech, we must also realize that kind of freedom is not free.  If we want to use freedom of speech we must use it in a constructive way or it will work against its very premise.  

    Please show respect to those who risked and lost their lives in 9/11/01.



    I respect your view on this, but please keep in mind that my entire reason for continuing this "crusade" is because I lost my father (and essentially my mother because of my father's death) because of the false-flag 9/11 operation.  If anyone has sympathy for those that died on 9/11, it's me.  Many, many people died incredulously at the hands of our government, and nothing can be more disgusting than that.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2010 - 1:41 PM ET #1196

    Quote Originally Posted by smdio:


    I respect your view on this, but please keep in mind that my entire reason for continuing this "crusade" is because I lost my father (and essentially my mother because of my father's death) because of the false-flag 9/11 operation.  If anyone has sympathy for those that died on 9/11, it's me.  Many, many people died incredulously at the hands of twisted, demented religious fundamentalists, and nothing can be more disgusting than that.


    Fixed that one for ya.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smdio:


    I respect your view on this, but please keep in mind that my entire reason for continuing this "crusade" is because I lost my father (and essentially my mother because of my father's death) because of the false-flag 9/11 operation.  If anyone has sympathy for those that died on 9/11, it's me.  Many, many people died incredulously at the hands of twisted, demented religious fundamentalists, and nothing can be more disgusting than that.


    Fixed that one for ya.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2010 - 1:45 PM ET #1197

    Quote Originally Posted by BLU-82:



    You did not answer kaponofor3 question post #1155.

    Like wise I wasted time looking at all 36 pages but failed to see the text. The document does not say those things.

    This is similar to when you quoted the FEMA post 1115 as saying that they had found Nano-Thermite.The linked document did not say that or anything like it.

    So on 2 occasions posts #1155  and 1115 you have misquoted significant documents to try to support your conspiracy views.

    Could you explain why you did this.


    Please don't misquote documents then ask people to instead read between the lines.

    I cannot locate the FEMA document that I have, but I know I have it.  I looked all morning, there's just so much stuff here and I'm sick of looking.

    You can read this though, basically says the same thing as what FEMA found. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLU-82:



    You did not answer kaponofor3 question post #1155.

    Like wise I wasted time looking at all 36 pages but failed to see the text. The document does not say those things.

    This is similar to when you quoted the FEMA post 1115 as saying that they had found Nano-Thermite.The linked document did not say that or anything like it.

    So on 2 occasions posts #1155  and 1115 you have misquoted significant documents to try to support your conspiracy views.

    Could you explain why you did this.


    Please don't misquote documents then ask people to instead read between the lines.

    I cannot locate the FEMA document that I have, but I know I have it.  I looked all morning, there's just so much stuff here and I'm sick of looking.

    You can read this though, basically says the same thing as what FEMA found. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 30, 2010 - 1:50 PM ET #1198

    Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:



    Fixed that one for ya.

    You have absolutely zero evidence that a single Al-Quadia member was on a single plane that crashed on 9/11.  Even the official Flight 77 DNA analysis listing all victims did not include the hijackers.  Can you explain that to me?

    Like many people in this country, I hate terrorists and believe they should all rot in hell for their beliefs.  But that's exactly what our government wants us to do in the case of 9/11, and you people are falling for it
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    Fixed that one for ya.

    You have absolutely zero evidence that a single Al-Quadia member was on a single plane that crashed on 9/11.  Even the official Flight 77 DNA analysis listing all victims did not include the hijackers.  Can you explain that to me?

    Like many people in this country, I hate terrorists and believe they should all rot in hell for their beliefs.  But that's exactly what our government wants us to do in the case of 9/11, and you people are falling for it
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by smdio:


    You have absolutely zero evidence that a single Al-Quadia member was on a single plane that crashed on 9/11.  Even the official Flight 77 DNA analysis listing all victims did not include the hijackers.  Can you explain that to me?

    Like many people in this country, I hate terrorists and believe they should all rot in hell for their beliefs.  But that's exactly what our government wants us to do in the case of 9/11, and you people are falling for it


    You know, except for those videos that show the hijackers going through security getting ready to board the planes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by smdio:


    You have absolutely zero evidence that a single Al-Quadia member was on a single plane that crashed on 9/11.  Even the official Flight 77 DNA analysis listing all victims did not include the hijackers.  Can you explain that to me?

    Like many people in this country, I hate terrorists and believe they should all rot in hell for their beliefs.  But that's exactly what our government wants us to do in the case of 9/11, and you people are falling for it


    You know, except for those videos that show the hijackers going through security getting ready to board the planes...

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by smdio:

    Kaponofor, by the way, you still have not answered me question regarding the NoC approach that 2+ dozens eye witnesses of Flight 77 on 9/11/2001 confirmed.  

    To state my question again:  

    Do you believe Flight 77 took a Northern approach to the Pentagon on 9/11?

    If your answer is yes, which I'm more than certain it has to be, then how can you possibly explain the resulting damage to the building resulting in the alleged crash, as well as the 5 downed light poles?

    Just wondering...are you suggesting that a plane did not hit the Pentagon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smdio:

    Kaponofor, by the way, you still have not answered me question regarding the NoC approach that 2+ dozens eye witnesses of Flight 77 on 9/11/2001 confirmed.  

    To state my question again:  

    Do you believe Flight 77 took a Northern approach to the Pentagon on 9/11?

    If your answer is yes, which I'm more than certain it has to be, then how can you possibly explain the resulting damage to the building resulting in the alleged crash, as well as the 5 downed light poles?

    Just wondering...are you suggesting that a plane did not hit the Pentagon?

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