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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2010 - 7:19 AM ET #1101

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    Have you proven

    To this day, not a single piece of wreckage was ever recovered from Flight 93. No engine, no metal debris, nothing


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    Have you proven

    To this day, not a single piece of wreckage was ever recovered from Flight 93. No engine, no metal debris, nothing


     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2010 - 7:21 AM ET #1102

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    Have you proven


    Flight 93 would be the first flight in the history of civilization to have "completely disappeared" without a trace, leaving absolutely zero evidence at its crash site
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    Flight 93 would be the first flight in the history of civilization to have "completely disappeared" without a trace, leaving absolutely zero evidence at its crash site
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2010 - 7:26 AM ET #1103

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    1.) Since 1992 and the bombings on the World Trade Center, bomb-sniffing dogs have been on patrol in both towers on a daily basis. These dogs are a security measure and have never missed a SINGLE DAY since the buildings were operational after the bombings of 1992.


    Are you tring to say that on this day when there were no dogs, explosives were brought into both buildings and rigged to completely destrioy both buildings. If not what is the reason for displaing this as the opening fact in your thread.
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    1.) Since 1992 and the bombings on the World Trade Center, bomb-sniffing dogs have been on patrol in both towers on a daily basis. These dogs are a security measure and have never missed a SINGLE DAY since the buildings were operational after the bombings of 1992.


    Are you tring to say that on this day when there were no dogs, explosives were brought into both buildings and rigged to completely destrioy both buildings. If not what is the reason for displaing this as the opening fact in your thread.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2010 - 7:51 AM ET #1104

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    You devote to Thermite.  Are you saying the towers were brought down by thermite. If so how was the thermite deployed, were the steel supports on every floor first exposed and then  treated with thermite, how much needed, how did workers enter and leave the towers un noticed over the weeks needed to expose supports on every floor, un noticed by everyone working in the towers. Have you seen evidence that thermite can cut through steel supports. We all know basic thermite in our firework sparklers. Has thermite been used by demolition teams to bring down buildings.


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    You devote to Thermite.  Are you saying the towers were brought down by thermite. If so how was the thermite deployed, were the steel supports on every floor first exposed and then  treated with thermite, how much needed, how did workers enter and leave the towers un noticed over the weeks needed to expose supports on every floor, un noticed by everyone working in the towers. Have you seen evidence that thermite can cut through steel supports. We all know basic thermite in our firework sparklers. Has thermite been used by demolition teams to bring down buildings.


     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2010 - 8:19 AM ET #1105

    I have an idea, how about we our energy for something positive?  Maybe spend time w/kids w/o parents or role models.  Clean up a neighborhood or open a soup kitchen?

    Dwelling on theories that people put out there for their OWN PROFIT is absurd.  The negative energy used on this "theory" is a waste. 

    Do something positive for those lives lost that day.  What's done is done.

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    I have an idea, how about we our energy for something positive?  Maybe spend time w/kids w/o parents or role models.  Clean up a neighborhood or open a soup kitchen?

    Dwelling on theories that people put out there for their OWN PROFIT is absurd.  The negative energy used on this "theory" is a waste. 

    Do something positive for those lives lost that day.  What's done is done.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2010 - 8:53 AM ET #1106

    smdio  has done his part he has hired a team of lawyers, spent a hundred grand and befriended a lady who can never see a loved one because he was on flight 93 that landed in cleveland 
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    smdio  has done his part he has hired a team of lawyers, spent a hundred grand and befriended a lady who can never see a loved one because he was on flight 93 that landed in cleveland 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2010 - 10:19 AM ET #1107

    Quote Originally Posted by BLU-82:

    #73

    You devote to Thermite.  Are you saying the towers were brought down by thermite. If so how was the thermite deployed, were the steel supports on every floor first exposed and then  treated with thermite, how much needed, how did workers enter and leave the towers un noticed over the weeks needed to expose supports on every floor, un noticed by everyone working in the towers. Have you seen evidence that thermite can cut through steel supports. We all know basic thermite in our firework sparklers. Has thermite been used by demolition teams to bring down buildings.



    BLU - I find your posting style to be a bit erratic.  I can't really follow the questions you are trying to ask.  I'd be more than happy to answer any questions you have though!  I just can't figure out what you're trying to ask me.

    If you can, simply make 1 post (not 10 or 11) with a list of questions, and I'll gladly devote as much time as necessary to answer them to the best of my ability
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLU-82:

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    You devote to Thermite.  Are you saying the towers were brought down by thermite. If so how was the thermite deployed, were the steel supports on every floor first exposed and then  treated with thermite, how much needed, how did workers enter and leave the towers un noticed over the weeks needed to expose supports on every floor, un noticed by everyone working in the towers. Have you seen evidence that thermite can cut through steel supports. We all know basic thermite in our firework sparklers. Has thermite been used by demolition teams to bring down buildings.



    BLU - I find your posting style to be a bit erratic.  I can't really follow the questions you are trying to ask.  I'd be more than happy to answer any questions you have though!  I just can't figure out what you're trying to ask me.

    If you can, simply make 1 post (not 10 or 11) with a list of questions, and I'll gladly devote as much time as necessary to answer them to the best of my ability
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2010 - 10:27 AM ET #1108

    smdio  start with the one above , your thinking on the way the thermite was used and deployed.

    Then answer why the dogs missing for one day was so central to your argument.


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    smdio  start with the one above , your thinking on the way the thermite was used and deployed.

    Then answer why the dogs missing for one day was so central to your argument.


     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2010 - 10:27 AM ET #1109

    This should finally dismiss tillyo from this thread, hopefully!

    The Library of Congress gets assigned what are called Congressional Research Service on important events that have recently taken place in the United States.  The goal of these services is to get the official story correct, so that our future society can read back about our history, and no doubts can be made about what happened and did not happen.  Witnesses, victims, and other important figures are interviewed, under oath, in front of a United States Congressional Committee, in which they are asked a series of questions pertaining to their involvement in whatever incident had occurred.  In this case, they were speaking to the eye witnesses of the Flight 77 attack, and other Pentagon employees. 

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    This should finally dismiss tillyo from this thread, hopefully!

    The Library of Congress gets assigned what are called Congressional Research Service on important events that have recently taken place in the United States.  The goal of these services is to get the official story correct, so that our future society can read back about our history, and no doubts can be made about what happened and did not happen.  Witnesses, victims, and other important figures are interviewed, under oath, in front of a United States Congressional Committee, in which they are asked a series of questions pertaining to their involvement in whatever incident had occurred.  In this case, they were speaking to the eye witnesses of the Flight 77 attack, and other Pentagon employees. 

    Boom.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2010 - 10:37 AM ET #1110

    smdio  you just deposited a post on thermite #73, which did not explain any relevance to anything.
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    BLU - I answered this type of question on page 30 or 31 of this thread.  I'll simply copy my response from that question to this page.  If it's still not what you're looking for, let me know more specifically.  Here goes:

    NIST, the Government-assigned agency to investigate the events of 9/11/2001 pertaining to the WTC complex in New York, released a revised report in 2008 which contained a few sections relating to the collapse of WTC7. According to the report that I just linked you to, NIST, who recorded an operating budget of $992 Million in 2009 and employs 2900 scientists, structural engineers, and technicians, claims that WTC7 collapsed upon itself in just over 5 seconds, with 2.25 second of that time "accelerating at the rate of gravity".  They further claim that "Freefall speed stopped as a result of the building collapsing on itself".

    How can a building made of several thousand tons of steel and reinforced concrete suddenly collapse at the rate of gravity upon itself without the aid of some sort of explosive device?

    Before you answer, you should know that FEMA initally did an investigation as to why WTC7 collapsed, but could not determine a reason.  They did however note the presense of the military-grade chemical Nano-Thermite in the rubble of the WTC complex.

    NIST immediately dismissed the potential of Thermite to be used, stating (this is always gives me a laugh, btw):

    "The use of thermite instead of explosives is discarded by NIST on the basis that it is unlikely the necessary 100 pounds of thermate for each steel column could have been planted without being discovered."

    So essentially:  Thermite is found in the rubble of WTC7. Upon further investigation of the Thermite by FEMA, they determine that it is a military-grade form of the chemical, called Nano-Thermite (or Super Thermite). NIST quickly discredits FEMA's findings as false, claiming that it would be "impossible" to get the 20+ tons of thermite into the WTC complex without security detection.

    Hmm.  "Security detection".  Lets take a quick look at the Security of the WTC complex on 9/11/2001, shall we?

    Stratesec, also known as Securacom, was responsible for the security of the entire WTC complex, as well as Dulles International Airport, and United Airlines on the morning of 9/11/2001. 

    Coincidentally, Dulles was the same airport that Flight 77 took off from, before it allegedly hit the Pentagon after allegedly being hijacked en route to San Francisco.

    Coincidentally, 3 United Airlines aircraft were used on the morning of 9/11 to execute the alleged hijackings.

    Who exactly was in control of this entire "Securacom" operation?  According to the Wikipedia link that I just sent you to, this agency was pretty much run by a single person, instead of "delegated authority" as are many other security forms.  So then, who was the person in charge of everything-Securacom on 9/11/2001? Marvin P. Bush.

    Well, surely, you'll say, even if security might have been comprimised on 9/11 at the WTC complex, the "bad guys" still would have needed plenty of time to get the 20+ tons of Nano-Thermite into the buildings.... right...?

    ACE Elevator "WTC modernization project", dated 3/1/2001 and lasted nearly 5 months.  It was finished roughly 10 days before the events of 9/11/2001.

    We now have a breach of security (Securacom), a false-flag elevator moderization (ACE), and a way to get 20+ tons of Nano-Thermite into the WTC complex over a 5+ month period before the events of 9/11/2001.

    BLU - I think you also asked me if Thermite can actually cut through steel at the rate needed to bring down the 3 WTC buildings.  The answer is yes, it can.


    Hopefully this helped answer your questions.  If not, give me more specific details to which I can focus more fully.  This is a subject I'm very educated on and am 100% convinced that my research and findings are correct, supported by scientific evidence and eye witness testimony.  I supplied you with plenty of links, so please watch all the video and click the links as you're reading my response.  If you don't, you won't get the full view of the point I'm attempting to make.

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    BLU - I answered this type of question on page 30 or 31 of this thread.  I'll simply copy my response from that question to this page.  If it's still not what you're looking for, let me know more specifically.  Here goes:

    NIST, the Government-assigned agency to investigate the events of 9/11/2001 pertaining to the WTC complex in New York, released a revised report in 2008 which contained a few sections relating to the collapse of WTC7. According to the report that I just linked you to, NIST, who recorded an operating budget of $992 Million in 2009 and employs 2900 scientists, structural engineers, and technicians, claims that WTC7 collapsed upon itself in just over 5 seconds, with 2.25 second of that time "accelerating at the rate of gravity".  They further claim that "Freefall speed stopped as a result of the building collapsing on itself".

    How can a building made of several thousand tons of steel and reinforced concrete suddenly collapse at the rate of gravity upon itself without the aid of some sort of explosive device?

    Before you answer, you should know that FEMA initally did an investigation as to why WTC7 collapsed, but could not determine a reason.  They did however note the presense of the military-grade chemical Nano-Thermite in the rubble of the WTC complex.

    NIST immediately dismissed the potential of Thermite to be used, stating (this is always gives me a laugh, btw):

    "The use of thermite instead of explosives is discarded by NIST on the basis that it is unlikely the necessary 100 pounds of thermate for each steel column could have been planted without being discovered."

    So essentially:  Thermite is found in the rubble of WTC7. Upon further investigation of the Thermite by FEMA, they determine that it is a military-grade form of the chemical, called Nano-Thermite (or Super Thermite). NIST quickly discredits FEMA's findings as false, claiming that it would be "impossible" to get the 20+ tons of thermite into the WTC complex without security detection.

    Hmm.  "Security detection".  Lets take a quick look at the Security of the WTC complex on 9/11/2001, shall we?

    Stratesec, also known as Securacom, was responsible for the security of the entire WTC complex, as well as Dulles International Airport, and United Airlines on the morning of 9/11/2001. 

    Coincidentally, Dulles was the same airport that Flight 77 took off from, before it allegedly hit the Pentagon after allegedly being hijacked en route to San Francisco.

    Coincidentally, 3 United Airlines aircraft were used on the morning of 9/11 to execute the alleged hijackings.

    Who exactly was in control of this entire "Securacom" operation?  According to the Wikipedia link that I just sent you to, this agency was pretty much run by a single person, instead of "delegated authority" as are many other security forms.  So then, who was the person in charge of everything-Securacom on 9/11/2001? Marvin P. Bush.

    Well, surely, you'll say, even if security might have been comprimised on 9/11 at the WTC complex, the "bad guys" still would have needed plenty of time to get the 20+ tons of Nano-Thermite into the buildings.... right...?

    ACE Elevator "WTC modernization project", dated 3/1/2001 and lasted nearly 5 months.  It was finished roughly 10 days before the events of 9/11/2001.

    We now have a breach of security (Securacom), a false-flag elevator moderization (ACE), and a way to get 20+ tons of Nano-Thermite into the WTC complex over a 5+ month period before the events of 9/11/2001.

    BLU - I think you also asked me if Thermite can actually cut through steel at the rate needed to bring down the 3 WTC buildings.  The answer is yes, it can.


    Hopefully this helped answer your questions.  If not, give me more specific details to which I can focus more fully.  This is a subject I'm very educated on and am 100% convinced that my research and findings are correct, supported by scientific evidence and eye witness testimony.  I supplied you with plenty of links, so please watch all the video and click the links as you're reading my response.  If you don't, you won't get the full view of the point I'm attempting to make.

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    BLU - the following is from page 30 or 31 of this thread, in which I attempted to detail the use of thermite in the WTC collapse, as well as other facts.  If it's still not the answer you're looking for, just let me know and I'll attempt again. Here we go:

    NIST, the Government-assigned agency to investigate the events of 9/11/2001 pertaining to the WTC complex in New York, released a revised report in 2008 which contained a few sections relating to the collapse of WTC7. According to the report that I just linked you to, NIST, who recorded an operating budget of $992 Million in 2009 and employs 2900 scientists, structural engineers, and technicians, claims that WTC7 collapsed upon itself in just over 5 seconds, with 2.25 second of that time "accelerating at the rate of gravity".  They further claim that "Freefall speed stopped as a result of the building collapsing on itself".

    Now I ask, how can a building made of several thousand tons of steel and reinforced concrete suddenly collapse at the rate of gravity upon itself without the aid of some sort of explosive device?

    Before you answer, you should know that FEMA initally did an investigation as to why WTC7 collapsed, but could not determine a reason.  They did however note the presense of the military-grade chemical Nano-Thermite in the rubble of the WTC complex.

    NIST immediately dismissed the potential of Thermite to be used, stating (this is always gives me a laugh, btw):

    "The use of thermite instead of explosives is discarded by NIST on the basis that it is unlikely the necessary 100 pounds of thermate for each steel column could have been planted without being discovered."

    So essentially:  Thermite is found in the rubble of WTC7. Upon further investigation of the Thermite by FEMA, they determine that it is a military-grade form of the chemical, called Nano-Thermite (or Super-Thermite). NIST quickly discredits FEMA's findings as false, claiming that it would be "impossible" to get the 20+ tons of thermite into the WTC complex without security detection.

    Hmm.  "Security detection".  Lets take a quick look at the Security of the WTC complex on 9/11/2001, shall we?

    Stratesec, also known as Securacom, was responsible for the security of the entire WTC complex, as well as Dulles International Airport, and United Airlines on the morning of 9/11/2001. 

    Coincidentally, Dulles was the same airport that Flight 77 took off from, before it allegedly hit the Pentagon after allegedly being hijacked en route to San Francisco.

    Coincidentally again, 3 United Airlines aircraft were used on the morning of 9/11 to execute the hijackings.

    Who exactly was in control of this entire "Securacom" operation?  According to the Wikipedia link that I just sent you to, this agency was pretty much run by a single person, instead of "delegated authority" as are many other security forms.  So then, who was the person in charge of everything-Securacom on 9/11/2001? Marvin P. Bush.

    Well, surely, you'll say, even if security might have been comprimised on 9/11 at the WTC complex, the "bad guys" still would have needed plenty of time to get the 20+ tons of Nano-Thermite into the buildings.... Right...?!?

    ACE Elevator "WTC modernization project", dated 3/1/2001 and lasted nearly 5 months.  It was finished roughly 10 days before the events of 9/11/2001.

    We now have a breach of security (Securacom), a false-flag elevator moderization (ACE), and a way to get 20+ tons of Nano-Thermite into the WTC complex over a 5+ month period before the events of 9/11/2001.

    Now I ask again, how can a building made of sevreal thousand tons of steel and reinforced concrete suddenly collapse at the rate of gravity upon itself without the aid of some sort of explosive device?


    BLU - I think you also asked it Thermite was capable of melting steel and cutting through the columns of the WTC buildings.  The answer is yes, it can. 

    Hopefully this raised enough questions in your mind to do further research on the false-flag 9/11 project.  I encourage you to not only take my word for it, but to go and do as much research as you can on all the lies that were told.  Also, when reading through this response, please click all the links I provided, and watch all necessary videos which support my findings and research.  Once again, I encourage you to do further research on the matter, and raise your own questions.

    If I still have not answered your question, or you want more specific answers, I would be happy to oblige.  Just let me know 
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    BLU - the following is from page 30 or 31 of this thread, in which I attempted to detail the use of thermite in the WTC collapse, as well as other facts.  If it's still not the answer you're looking for, just let me know and I'll attempt again. Here we go:

    NIST, the Government-assigned agency to investigate the events of 9/11/2001 pertaining to the WTC complex in New York, released a revised report in 2008 which contained a few sections relating to the collapse of WTC7. According to the report that I just linked you to, NIST, who recorded an operating budget of $992 Million in 2009 and employs 2900 scientists, structural engineers, and technicians, claims that WTC7 collapsed upon itself in just over 5 seconds, with 2.25 second of that time "accelerating at the rate of gravity".  They further claim that "Freefall speed stopped as a result of the building collapsing on itself".

    Now I ask, how can a building made of several thousand tons of steel and reinforced concrete suddenly collapse at the rate of gravity upon itself without the aid of some sort of explosive device?

    Before you answer, you should know that FEMA initally did an investigation as to why WTC7 collapsed, but could not determine a reason.  They did however note the presense of the military-grade chemical Nano-Thermite in the rubble of the WTC complex.

    NIST immediately dismissed the potential of Thermite to be used, stating (this is always gives me a laugh, btw):

    "The use of thermite instead of explosives is discarded by NIST on the basis that it is unlikely the necessary 100 pounds of thermate for each steel column could have been planted without being discovered."

    So essentially:  Thermite is found in the rubble of WTC7. Upon further investigation of the Thermite by FEMA, they determine that it is a military-grade form of the chemical, called Nano-Thermite (or Super-Thermite). NIST quickly discredits FEMA's findings as false, claiming that it would be "impossible" to get the 20+ tons of thermite into the WTC complex without security detection.

    Hmm.  "Security detection".  Lets take a quick look at the Security of the WTC complex on 9/11/2001, shall we?

    Stratesec, also known as Securacom, was responsible for the security of the entire WTC complex, as well as Dulles International Airport, and United Airlines on the morning of 9/11/2001. 

    Coincidentally, Dulles was the same airport that Flight 77 took off from, before it allegedly hit the Pentagon after allegedly being hijacked en route to San Francisco.

    Coincidentally again, 3 United Airlines aircraft were used on the morning of 9/11 to execute the hijackings.

    Who exactly was in control of this entire "Securacom" operation?  According to the Wikipedia link that I just sent you to, this agency was pretty much run by a single person, instead of "delegated authority" as are many other security forms.  So then, who was the person in charge of everything-Securacom on 9/11/2001? Marvin P. Bush.

    Well, surely, you'll say, even if security might have been comprimised on 9/11 at the WTC complex, the "bad guys" still would have needed plenty of time to get the 20+ tons of Nano-Thermite into the buildings.... Right...?!?

    ACE Elevator "WTC modernization project", dated 3/1/2001 and lasted nearly 5 months.  It was finished roughly 10 days before the events of 9/11/2001.

    We now have a breach of security (Securacom), a false-flag elevator moderization (ACE), and a way to get 20+ tons of Nano-Thermite into the WTC complex over a 5+ month period before the events of 9/11/2001.

    Now I ask again, how can a building made of sevreal thousand tons of steel and reinforced concrete suddenly collapse at the rate of gravity upon itself without the aid of some sort of explosive device?


    BLU - I think you also asked it Thermite was capable of melting steel and cutting through the columns of the WTC buildings.  The answer is yes, it can. 

    Hopefully this raised enough questions in your mind to do further research on the false-flag 9/11 project.  I encourage you to not only take my word for it, but to go and do as much research as you can on all the lies that were told.  Also, when reading through this response, please click all the links I provided, and watch all necessary videos which support my findings and research.  Once again, I encourage you to do further research on the matter, and raise your own questions.

    If I still have not answered your question, or you want more specific answers, I would be happy to oblige.  Just let me know 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2010 - 11:25 AM ET #1113

    Quote Originally Posted by ltbdubz5:

    I have an idea, how about we our energy for something positive?  Maybe spend time w/kids w/o parents or role models.  Clean up a neighborhood or open a soup kitchen?

    Dwelling on theories that people put out there for their OWN PROFIT is absurd.  The negative energy used on this "theory" is a waste. 

    Do something positive for those lives lost that day.  What's done is done.


    I respectfully disagree with you here, sir.  I believe with enough evidence, my fathers death and my mothers suffering because of it will ultimately land the people behind 9/11/2001 in prison for Treason, Obstruction of Justice, Misprision of a Felony, and countless other crimes.

    Someone will pay and it will happen in the next 5 years.  

    And what basis do you have for saying that I've profited in some way from these theories?  Quite the contrary, I've spent countless dollars trying to bring these scumbags to justice.  I will continue to do so until that day comes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ltbdubz5:

    I have an idea, how about we our energy for something positive?  Maybe spend time w/kids w/o parents or role models.  Clean up a neighborhood or open a soup kitchen?

    Dwelling on theories that people put out there for their OWN PROFIT is absurd.  The negative energy used on this "theory" is a waste. 

    Do something positive for those lives lost that day.  What's done is done.


    I respectfully disagree with you here, sir.  I believe with enough evidence, my fathers death and my mothers suffering because of it will ultimately land the people behind 9/11/2001 in prison for Treason, Obstruction of Justice, Misprision of a Felony, and countless other crimes.

    Someone will pay and it will happen in the next 5 years.  

    And what basis do you have for saying that I've profited in some way from these theories?  Quite the contrary, I've spent countless dollars trying to bring these scumbags to justice.  I will continue to do so until that day comes.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2010 - 11:34 AM ET #1114

    smdio Do you have tha actual link to the official  FEMA document  stating that Military grade nano thermite found at WTC. The actual file, not what others say the FEMA found.







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    smdio Do you have tha actual link to the official  FEMA document  stating that Military grade nano thermite found at WTC. The actual file, not what others say the FEMA found.







     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2010 - 11:48 AM ET #1115

    Yes I do.  I'll try to find it online right now, but I have the officially released document at my house printed somewhere in a file.  Give me until later today.
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    Yes I do.  I'll try to find it online right now, but I have the officially released document at my house printed somewhere in a file.  Give me until later today.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by smdio:

    Yes I do.  I'll try to find it online right now, but I have the officially released document at my house printed somewhere in a file.  Give me until later today.





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    Yes I do.  I'll try to find it online right now, but I have the officially released document at my house printed somewhere in a file.  Give me until later today.





     
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    Here's something similar, but it's missing a few pages.

    Under "Summary for sample 1", it reads:

    "Heating of the steel into a hot corrosive environment approaching 1,000 °C (1,800 °F) results in the formation of a eutectic mixture of iron, oxygen, and sulfur that liquefied the steel."

    The "eutectic mixture of iron, oxygen, and sulfur" is referring to a material that they have yet to determine.  It is later determined in the same report that this substance is the military grade chemical known as Nano-Thermite.  FEMA also said that this chemical was responsible for the collapsing of the towers, which they say in the "Suggestions for future research":

    "The severe corrosion and subsequent erosion of Samples 1 and 2 are a very unusual event. No clear explanation for the source of the sulfur has been identified. The rate of corrosion is also unknown. It is possible that this is the result of long-term heating in the ground following the collapse of the buildings. It is also possible that the phenomenon started prior to collapse and accelerated the weakening of the steel structure. A detailed study into the mechanisms of this phenomenon is needed to determine what risk, if any, is presented to existing steel structures exposed to severe and long-burning fires."

    NIST then took over the investigation and refused to test or determine what "accelerant" that FEMA referred to was used.  

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    Here's something similar, but it's missing a few pages.

    Under "Summary for sample 1", it reads:

    "Heating of the steel into a hot corrosive environment approaching 1,000 °C (1,800 °F) results in the formation of a eutectic mixture of iron, oxygen, and sulfur that liquefied the steel."

    The "eutectic mixture of iron, oxygen, and sulfur" is referring to a material that they have yet to determine.  It is later determined in the same report that this substance is the military grade chemical known as Nano-Thermite.  FEMA also said that this chemical was responsible for the collapsing of the towers, which they say in the "Suggestions for future research":

    "The severe corrosion and subsequent erosion of Samples 1 and 2 are a very unusual event. No clear explanation for the source of the sulfur has been identified. The rate of corrosion is also unknown. It is possible that this is the result of long-term heating in the ground following the collapse of the buildings. It is also possible that the phenomenon started prior to collapse and accelerated the weakening of the steel structure. A detailed study into the mechanisms of this phenomenon is needed to determine what risk, if any, is presented to existing steel structures exposed to severe and long-burning fires."

    NIST then took over the investigation and refused to test or determine what "accelerant" that FEMA referred to was used.  

     
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    Posted: Nov. 28, 2010 - 12:00 PM ET #1118

    Sorry, I forgot to link you. 

    Here.
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    Sorry, I forgot to link you. 

    Here.
     
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    I do have this full document at my home in which they specifically refer back to the "Summary of Sample 1" section and determine the unknown chemical to be Nano-Thermite.  I'll upload that later tonight.
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    I do have this full document at my home in which they specifically refer back to the "Summary of Sample 1" section and determine the unknown chemical to be Nano-Thermite.  I'll upload that later tonight.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by smdio:

    I do have this full document at my home in which they specifically refer back to the "Summary of Sample 1" section and determine the unknown chemical to be Nano-Thermite.  I'll upload that later tonight.


    thank you
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    I do have this full document at my home in which they specifically refer back to the "Summary of Sample 1" section and determine the unknown chemical to be Nano-Thermite.  I'll upload that later tonight.


    thank you
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by smdio:

    Yes, they all testified before the Library of Congress just a few short weeks after 9/11/2001.  This would be under oath, since anytime you speak to a Congressional Committee, you get sworn in

    Is that the best you can do?       Enough said.

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    Yes, they all testified before the Library of Congress just a few short weeks after 9/11/2001.  This would be under oath, since anytime you speak to a Congressional Committee, you get sworn in

    Is that the best you can do?       Enough said.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by smdio:

    This should finally dismiss tillyo from this thread, hopefully!

    The Library of Congress gets assigned what are called Congressional Research Service on important events that have recently taken place in the United States.  The goal of these services is to get the official story correct, so that our future society can read back about our history, and no doubts can be made about what happened and did not happen.  Witnesses, victims, and other important figures are interviewed, under oath, in front of a United States Congressional Committee, in which they are asked a series of questions pertaining to their involvement in whatever incident had occurred.  In this case, they were speaking to the eye witnesses of the Flight 77 attack, and other Pentagon employees. 

    Boom.

    This one is for you tillyo, since you seemed to miss it (most likely on purpose)
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    This should finally dismiss tillyo from this thread, hopefully!

    The Library of Congress gets assigned what are called Congressional Research Service on important events that have recently taken place in the United States.  The goal of these services is to get the official story correct, so that our future society can read back about our history, and no doubts can be made about what happened and did not happen.  Witnesses, victims, and other important figures are interviewed, under oath, in front of a United States Congressional Committee, in which they are asked a series of questions pertaining to their involvement in whatever incident had occurred.  In this case, they were speaking to the eye witnesses of the Flight 77 attack, and other Pentagon employees. 

    Boom.

    This one is for you tillyo, since you seemed to miss it (most likely on purpose)
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by smdio:

    Sorry, I forgot to link you. 

    Here.



    Hi,  this document does not mention thermite, let alone military grade nano thermite. I do appreciate that you said you would upload some documents from home. But this document is not supportive of your statement.


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    Sorry, I forgot to link you. 

    Here.



    Hi,  this document does not mention thermite, let alone military grade nano thermite. I do appreciate that you said you would upload some documents from home. But this document is not supportive of your statement.


     
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    What do you think this statement refers to?

    "Heating of the steel into a hot corrosive environment approaching 1,000 °C (1,800 °F) results in the formation of a eutectic mixture of iron, oxygen, and sulfur that liquefied the steel."

    You obviously have to read between the lines as to what chemical they are talking about, but they do refer to it specifically in the officially released document.

    You seem to have a closed mind.  If you do not have an open mind while reading this stuff, you might as well not waste your time BLU...
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    What do you think this statement refers to?

    "Heating of the steel into a hot corrosive environment approaching 1,000 °C (1,800 °F) results in the formation of a eutectic mixture of iron, oxygen, and sulfur that liquefied the steel."

    You obviously have to read between the lines as to what chemical they are talking about, but they do refer to it specifically in the officially released document.

    You seem to have a closed mind.  If you do not have an open mind while reading this stuff, you might as well not waste your time BLU...
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by smdio:

    Yes, they all testified before the Library of Congress just a few short weeks after 9/11/2001.  This would be under oath, since anytime you speak to a Congressional Committee, you get sworn in

    Is that the best you can do?      WOW!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by smdio:

    Yes, they all testified before the Library of Congress just a few short weeks after 9/11/2001.  This would be under oath, since anytime you speak to a Congressional Committee, you get sworn in

    Is that the best you can do?      WOW!!!!!!!!!

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