If you gave your keys to your car for the first time to your son and he gets caught drink driving.
Later he says my friends said it would be ok.
Whose fault is it.
Your sons or his friends?
I dont know u obviously, but i cant stand people like you who dont like to take accountability and responsibility for there actions.
There are temptations in this world, yes, they are only there as a test by God only for you to demonstrate your love for him.
Some people here are finding it really difficult to comprehend the idea of free will and evil.
Thats where you have it wrong.
God is NOT testable.
I can say there are kangaroos playing baseball in mars. I can say i saw bigfoot, i can say i saw Santa, i can say i saw the tooth fairy. At the end of the day, all these claims are testable.
God is NOT testable.
Thats where you have it wrong.
God is NOT testable.
I can say there are kangaroos playing baseball in mars. I can say i saw bigfoot, i can say i saw Santa, i can say i saw the tooth fairy. At the end of the day, all these claims are testable.
God is NOT testable.
Thats where you have it wrong.
God is NOT testable.
I can say there are kangaroos playing baseball in mars. I can say i saw bigfoot, i can say i saw Santa, i can say i saw the tooth fairy. At the end of the day, all these claims are testable.
God is NOT testable.
If you gave your keys to your car for the first time to your son and he gets caught drink driving.
Later he says my friends said it would be ok.
Whose fault is it.
Your sons or his friends?
I dont know u obviously, but i cant stand people like you who dont like to take accountability and responsibility for there actions.
There are temptations in this world, yes, they are only there as a test by God only for you to demonstrate your love for him.
Some people here are finding it really difficult to comprehend the idea of free will and evil.
If you gave your keys to your car for the first time to your son and he gets caught drink driving.
Later he says my friends said it would be ok.
Whose fault is it.
Your sons or his friends?
I dont know u obviously, but i cant stand people like you who dont like to take accountability and responsibility for there actions.
There are temptations in this world, yes, they are only there as a test by God only for you to demonstrate your love for him.
Some people here are finding it really difficult to comprehend the idea of free will and evil.
Since you like analogies so much,
Like I said earlier, the god of the bible is an ass... I can't believe in this day and age, people still follow this crap!
Like I said earlier, the god of the bible is an ass... I can't believe in this day and age, people still follow this crap!
MRGETRICH, recently, there has been alot of controversy about creationism, intelligent design theories versus evolution. Bc after 150 years of Darwinism, evolutionists do not have a fool proof theory. They can not satisfactorily explain either the fossil data, especially the fossil gaps, or why, and how life appears to be so intelligently designed. This is what creates room for controversy. Honest, unprejudiced scientific appraisal of these theories and data is that niether Darwinism nor its later synthesis is with genetics and population biology called neo-darwinism agrees with all the experimental data. Creationists, for all the noise we make, when you look closely, alot of the evidence is based on the negatives of your argument. Sure, we make interesting points about the holes in the Darwinism evolution theory. Though, if the people in the day of Jesus could not identify Him, and crucifed His innocent life. Then it is inevitable, the people of today, with advanced knowledge will declare Him dead. So, the best method for a believer to prove the existence of God is not within the realms of science, but through their faith in God, with their actions. As Christians, if our faith in God was as grand as we claim, we would have a better control of our downfalls. In the end, I can't prove God to you, He will do that. If science is the ultimate proof, why send a single missionary to Africa. As Christians, we should never go to war in the name of God, or do anything that is embarrassing to God's cause. You state; "Christians are doing a very good job of keeping people away from Christianity" and Gandhi declared, "I'd be a Christian if it were not for the Christians!" For the reality is, if science was the way to enlightenment, it would still only require a negative life experience to denounce God. Because; "where was God" leads to "there is no God" more times than not. Convincing yourself in the begining there was God, is no different to convincing yourself there is no God. Honest appraisal when searching for the higher power, ends in faith and the Holy spirit which is the ultimate witness for God.
If i say there are kangaroos playing baseball on mars, it is testable, wether you find them or not is not the issue. The issue is that it is testable.
My claim is that God's realm is in the supernatural and his presence will ONLY be seen on death.
Therefore it is NOT testable while we are in this world.
MRGETRICH, recently, there has been alot of controversy about creationism, intelligent design theories versus evolution. Bc after 150 years of Darwinism, evolutionists do not have a fool proof theory. They can not satisfactorily explain either the fossil data, especially the fossil gaps, or why, and how life appears to be so intelligently designed. This is what creates room for controversy. Honest, unprejudiced scientific appraisal of these theories and data is that niether Darwinism nor its later synthesis is with genetics and population biology called neo-darwinism agrees with all the experimental data. Creationists, for all the noise we make, when you look closely, alot of the evidence is based on the negatives of your argument. Sure, we make interesting points about the holes in the Darwinism evolution theory. Though, if the people in the day of Jesus could not identify Him, and crucifed His innocent life. Then it is inevitable, the people of today, with advanced knowledge will declare Him dead. So, the best method for a believer to prove the existence of God is not within the realms of science, but through their faith in God, with their actions. As Christians, if our faith in God was as grand as we claim, we would have a better control of our downfalls. In the end, I can't prove God to you, He will do that. If science is the ultimate proof, why send a single missionary to Africa. As Christians, we should never go to war in the name of God, or do anything that is embarrassing to God's cause. You state; "Christians are doing a very good job of keeping people away from Christianity" and Gandhi declared, "I'd be a Christian if it were not for the Christians!" For the reality is, if science was the way to enlightenment, it would still only require a negative life experience to denounce God. Because; "where was God" leads to "there is no God" more times than not. Convincing yourself in the begining there was God, is no different to convincing yourself there is no God. Honest appraisal when searching for the higher power, ends in faith and the Holy spirit which is the ultimate witness for God.
But thats the thing, people want to apply the same standard of testing and proof that they apply in everyday life to God. That is why when non believers want proof, there argument is flawed.
if in the bible it is written that God will appear in your local malls on Sundays at 3pm or God will not allow murders or God will align the stars in the sky to form a cross and these things DO NOT happen, then yes, you could challenge the bible and say it is false.
If Gods realm is in the supernatural (as stated in the bible) and his presence will be seen in death, then how on earth can anyone say he doesnt exist?
Furthermore, this is the ONLY world that we KNOW, this is the ONLY life that we know.
Is there an instruction manual that says,
"if God was to exist, then we should observe x, y and z?"
You trying to apply an instruction manual that is given to a jury to determine the proof for a theft of a murder to that of God?
You trying to apply an instruction manual to determine if a being that created the universe exists?
If he wants this "world model" to be the way it is now in terms of evidence, who are you or anyone to say it should be different?
If i say there are kangaroos playing baseball on mars, it is testable, wether you find them or not is not the issue. The issue is that it is testable.
My claim is that God's realm is in the supernatural and his presence will ONLY be seen on death.
Therefore it is NOT testable while we are in this world.
If i say there are kangaroos playing baseball on mars, it is testable, wether you find them or not is not the issue. The issue is that it is testable.
My claim is that God's realm is in the supernatural and his presence will ONLY be seen on death.
Therefore it is NOT testable while we are in this world.
He also can only be seen after death
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