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    Posted: May. 24, 2011 - 11:20 AM ET #876

    Your god's an ass 

    I think rostos is the caller
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    Your god's an ass 

    I think rostos is the caller
     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2011 - 11:24 AM ET #877

    Your god's an ass pt 2 
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    Posted: May. 24, 2011 - 11:31 AM ET #878

    "If you can't think for yourself, no wonder you believe in a god"

    Matt Dillahunty"
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    "If you can't think for yourself, no wonder you believe in a god"

    Matt Dillahunty"
     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2011 - 11:44 AM ET #879

    After the Rapture   
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    Posted: May. 24, 2011 - 12:17 PM ET #880

    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:

    "If you can't think for yourself, no wonder you believe in a god"

    Matt Dillahunty"

    Yeah and i also suppose

    Matt Dillahunty > Albert Einstein?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:

    "If you can't think for yourself, no wonder you believe in a god"

    Matt Dillahunty"

    Yeah and i also suppose

    Matt Dillahunty > Albert Einstein?

     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2011 - 12:18 PM ET #881

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Yes, I am.

    Sorry for the blunt honesty.

    Vaznak > Professors at Oxford + Harvard universities?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Yes, I am.

    Sorry for the blunt honesty.

    Vaznak > Professors at Oxford + Harvard universities?

     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2011 - 12:28 PM ET #882

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Yeah and i also suppose

    Matt Dillahunty > Albert Einstein?


    Sorry, but he didn't believe in your god of the bible
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Yeah and i also suppose

    Matt Dillahunty > Albert Einstein?


    Sorry, but he didn't believe in your god of the bible
     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2011 - 12:29 PM ET #883

    Matt Dillahunty>Rostos
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    Posted: May. 24, 2011 - 12:52 PM ET #884

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Vaznak > Professors at Oxford + Harvard universities?

    Yes.

    (if you can post ridiculous statements as facts, so can I)

    Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
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    Vaznak > Professors at Oxford + Harvard universities?

    Yes.

    (if you can post ridiculous statements as facts, so can I)

     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2011 - 12:56 PM ET #885

    Rostos operates on the fallacy of black and white thinking. It's like if I said "I don't like pepsi." Rostos would conclude I must like Coke, there's no other alternative. Perhaps I like Dr. Pepper? Nope, impossible.

    Something cannot come from nothing. Therefore, must be the Christian God. Can't possibly be Moses or Buddha or the flying spaghetti monster. No shot it's any of those.

    To quote a great man with the IQ equivalent to that of Rostos:

    "If you're not first, you're last." - Ricky Bobby's Father
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    Rostos operates on the fallacy of black and white thinking. It's like if I said "I don't like pepsi." Rostos would conclude I must like Coke, there's no other alternative. Perhaps I like Dr. Pepper? Nope, impossible.

    Something cannot come from nothing. Therefore, must be the Christian God. Can't possibly be Moses or Buddha or the flying spaghetti monster. No shot it's any of those.

    To quote a great man with the IQ equivalent to that of Rostos:

    "If you're not first, you're last." - Ricky Bobby's Father
     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2011 - 3:30 PM ET #886

    CD - you will like this one.

    So funny.

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    CD - you will like this one.

    So funny.

     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2011 - 4:06 PM ET #887

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    of course it is tedious, cause u refuse to listen to my answers.

    Many of the answers are from my studies of some of the leading professors in the field of philosophy and theology. Also from many debates between leading Chritians and Atheists.

    But i suppose u are smarter than them....



    suuuureeeeee, either this is a lie or those professors are a joke... cause your arguments are lame and the most ridiculous I have heard in a while..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    of course it is tedious, cause u refuse to listen to my answers.

    Many of the answers are from my studies of some of the leading professors in the field of philosophy and theology. Also from many debates between leading Chritians and Atheists.

    But i suppose u are smarter than them....



    suuuureeeeee, either this is a lie or those professors are a joke... cause your arguments are lame and the most ridiculous I have heard in a while..
     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2011 - 4:18 PM ET #888

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    CD - you will like this one.

    So funny.

    they are having a field day.  there won't be this much fertile ground for crhstian comedy until, well, october 21 of this year. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    CD - you will like this one.

    So funny.

    they are having a field day.  there won't be this much fertile ground for crhstian comedy until, well, october 21 of this year. 

     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2011 - 4:35 PM ET #889

    The Book of 2 Chronicles

    The author was Ezra, written around 430 B.C. recording events between the beginning of Solomon's reign (970 B.C.) and the beginning of the Babylonian captivity (586 B.C.)

    Christians are often amazed and the ignorance of 'primitive peoples" who worship idols. Meanwhile, we ourselves devotedly serve idols of wealth, prestige, and self-fulfillment. Second Chronicles calls us back to wholehearted, single-minded devotion to God. Continuing the history of Israel and Judah thas was begun in 1 Chronicles, this book recounts the glory of Solomon's reign, highlighting the construction and dedication of the Temple. It also records the actions of the kings of Judah who came after Solomon, taking special note of each one's attention to the religious affairs of his nation. Second Chronicles highlights the deeds of Hezekiah, under whose reign an extended rival took place. The writer also describes the destruction of Jerusalem and the exile of the people to Babylon. The book ends on a positive note, however, as king Cyrus of Persia decrees that the people of Judah are free to return home. As the writer of 2 Chronicles provides his readers with a history of Israel's past, he indirectly urges his readers to rededicate their lives to the one true God.

    Praise the Lord Almighty!!

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    The Book of 2 Chronicles

    The author was Ezra, written around 430 B.C. recording events between the beginning of Solomon's reign (970 B.C.) and the beginning of the Babylonian captivity (586 B.C.)

    Christians are often amazed and the ignorance of 'primitive peoples" who worship idols. Meanwhile, we ourselves devotedly serve idols of wealth, prestige, and self-fulfillment. Second Chronicles calls us back to wholehearted, single-minded devotion to God. Continuing the history of Israel and Judah thas was begun in 1 Chronicles, this book recounts the glory of Solomon's reign, highlighting the construction and dedication of the Temple. It also records the actions of the kings of Judah who came after Solomon, taking special note of each one's attention to the religious affairs of his nation. Second Chronicles highlights the deeds of Hezekiah, under whose reign an extended rival took place. The writer also describes the destruction of Jerusalem and the exile of the people to Babylon. The book ends on a positive note, however, as king Cyrus of Persia decrees that the people of Judah are free to return home. As the writer of 2 Chronicles provides his readers with a history of Israel's past, he indirectly urges his readers to rededicate their lives to the one true God.

    Praise the Lord Almighty!!

     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2011 - 4:37 PM ET #890

    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Vaznak > Professors at Oxford + Harvard universities?

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    Vaznak > Professors at Oxford + Harvard universities?

     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2011 - 4:50 PM ET #891

    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:


    you are a joke 
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    you are a joke 
     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2011 - 5:01 PM ET #892

    Quote Originally Posted by bbitw:

    You are a joke. and now I understand why you answer everything with a verse on the Bible.

    Because you dont know what  you are talking about !

    One of the first things your religion teaches is that God forgives everything !     

    If you knew anything about your religion you wouldnt had even posted that.

     Thank you for showing everyone how your religion contradicts itself and how you know nothing about it..

     

    Also when people gives an opinion of how you guys sound.. Rostos says they are judging which they arent.

    This is judging ! You the most uninformed christian just condemned KK to hell !  I wonder if Rostos is going to say anything to his fellow christian..

    No, silly I;m not judging but the Lord Almighty will. Do you have a bible? All the verses I have posted is from the Holy Bible which is the truth. So when you say I don't know what I'm talking about, are you suggesting the Holy Bible is full of lies?

    I suggest you get your bible out and go to Mark 3:28-29 where Our Lord Jesus Christ said, "I tell you the truth, all sin and blasphemy can be forgiven, but anyone who blasphemes the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven. This is a sin with eternal consequences."

    So bb you are wrong, and start reading your bible more carefully so you will know what you are talking about when you open that yap of yours.

    There are six things the Lord hates----no, seven things He detests: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that kill the innocent, a heart that plots evil, feet that race to do wrong, a false witness who pours out lies, a person who sows discord in a family. ---Proverbs 6:16-19

    Praise the Lord Almighty!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbitw:

    You are a joke. and now I understand why you answer everything with a verse on the Bible.

    Because you dont know what  you are talking about !

    One of the first things your religion teaches is that God forgives everything !     

    If you knew anything about your religion you wouldnt had even posted that.

     Thank you for showing everyone how your religion contradicts itself and how you know nothing about it..

     

    Also when people gives an opinion of how you guys sound.. Rostos says they are judging which they arent.

    This is judging ! You the most uninformed christian just condemned KK to hell !  I wonder if Rostos is going to say anything to his fellow christian..

    No, silly I;m not judging but the Lord Almighty will. Do you have a bible? All the verses I have posted is from the Holy Bible which is the truth. So when you say I don't know what I'm talking about, are you suggesting the Holy Bible is full of lies?

    I suggest you get your bible out and go to Mark 3:28-29 where Our Lord Jesus Christ said, "I tell you the truth, all sin and blasphemy can be forgiven, but anyone who blasphemes the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven. This is a sin with eternal consequences."

    So bb you are wrong, and start reading your bible more carefully so you will know what you are talking about when you open that yap of yours.

    There are six things the Lord hates----no, seven things He detests: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that kill the innocent, a heart that plots evil, feet that race to do wrong, a false witness who pours out lies, a person who sows discord in a family. ---Proverbs 6:16-19

    Praise the Lord Almighty!!

     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2011 - 5:13 PM ET #893

    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

    No, silly I;m not judging but the Lord Almighty will. Do you have a bible? All the verses I have posted is from the Holy Bible which is the truth. So when you say I don't know what I'm talking about, are you suggesting the Holy Bible is full of lies?

    I suggest you get your bible out and go to Mark 3:28-29 where Our Lord Jesus Christ said, "I tell you the truth, all sin and blasphemy can be forgiven, but anyone who blasphemes the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven. This is a sin with eternal consequences."

    So bb you are wrong, and start reading your bible more carefully so you will know what you are talking about when you open that yap of yours.

    There are six things the Lord hates----no, seven things He detests: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that kill the innocent, a heart that plots evil, feet that race to do wrong, a false witness who pours out lies, a person who sows discord in a family. ---Proverbs 6:16-19

    Praise the Lord Almighty!!



    The bible can say that but religion says otherwise  !
    I believe that the ones that should learn how to read it are you the christians !!!!! 
    What a joke that you teach something that goes against your bible !!!!




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    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

    No, silly I;m not judging but the Lord Almighty will. Do you have a bible? All the verses I have posted is from the Holy Bible which is the truth. So when you say I don't know what I'm talking about, are you suggesting the Holy Bible is full of lies?

    I suggest you get your bible out and go to Mark 3:28-29 where Our Lord Jesus Christ said, "I tell you the truth, all sin and blasphemy can be forgiven, but anyone who blasphemes the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven. This is a sin with eternal consequences."

    So bb you are wrong, and start reading your bible more carefully so you will know what you are talking about when you open that yap of yours.

    There are six things the Lord hates----no, seven things He detests: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that kill the innocent, a heart that plots evil, feet that race to do wrong, a false witness who pours out lies, a person who sows discord in a family. ---Proverbs 6:16-19

    Praise the Lord Almighty!!



    The bible can say that but religion says otherwise  !
    I believe that the ones that should learn how to read it are you the christians !!!!! 
    What a joke that you teach something that goes against your bible !!!!




     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

    No, silly I;m not judging but the Lord Almighty will. Do you have a bible? All the verses I have posted is from the Holy Bible which is the truth. So when you say I don't know what I'm talking about, are you suggesting the Holy Bible is full of lies?

    I suggest you get your bible out and go to Mark 3:28-29 where Our Lord Jesus Christ said, "I tell you the truth, all sin and blasphemy can be forgiven, but anyone who blasphemes the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven. This is a sin with eternal consequences."

    So bb you are wrong, and start reading your bible more carefully so you will know what you are talking about when you open that yap of yours.

    There are six things the Lord hates----no, seven things He detests: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that kill the innocent, a heart that plots evil, feet that race to do wrong, a false witness who pours out lies, a person who sows discord in a family. ---Proverbs 6:16-19

    Praise the Lord Almighty!!





    Besides its insane to even say that verse.. 
    How stupid your God and your religion is..

    So basically I can rape and murder every little girl in the world and still go to heaven...

    but if you say something about god you wont...

    So Osama could be in heaven but KK is goint to hell huh ?!?!



    Does he have self esteem issues or something ???
    Or is he such a douchebag all of the time ???


    Am I the only one that thinks that is total bullshit !?!?!?!?!





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    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

    No, silly I;m not judging but the Lord Almighty will. Do you have a bible? All the verses I have posted is from the Holy Bible which is the truth. So when you say I don't know what I'm talking about, are you suggesting the Holy Bible is full of lies?

    I suggest you get your bible out and go to Mark 3:28-29 where Our Lord Jesus Christ said, "I tell you the truth, all sin and blasphemy can be forgiven, but anyone who blasphemes the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven. This is a sin with eternal consequences."

    So bb you are wrong, and start reading your bible more carefully so you will know what you are talking about when you open that yap of yours.

    There are six things the Lord hates----no, seven things He detests: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that kill the innocent, a heart that plots evil, feet that race to do wrong, a false witness who pours out lies, a person who sows discord in a family. ---Proverbs 6:16-19

    Praise the Lord Almighty!!





    Besides its insane to even say that verse.. 
    How stupid your God and your religion is..

    So basically I can rape and murder every little girl in the world and still go to heaven...

    but if you say something about god you wont...

    So Osama could be in heaven but KK is goint to hell huh ?!?!



    Does he have self esteem issues or something ???
    Or is he such a douchebag all of the time ???


    Am I the only one that thinks that is total bullshit !?!?!?!?!





     
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    Oh no!! bb you just blasphemied the Lord Almighty yourself. 
     
    He has so much documentation on these threads on who are all the ones who blasphemied Him.
     
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    Oh no!! bb you just blasphemied the Lord Almighty yourself. 
     
    He has so much documentation on these threads on who are all the ones who blasphemied Him.
     
     
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    Is there PURPOSE for human life? Does life, after all, have real meaning? Here is the awesome truth!

    Part 7 of 23. Did God Make Man So Destructive?

    Why did an all-wise Creator put man on this earth? Did the Creator design and make man as he is---with such tremendous intellect and creative powers, yet so destructive, and so helpless before his most important problems?

    It may come as a shock to learn the true explanations of revolting world conditions, their causes---how it all came about---and of the real purpose for human existence. But read in your own Bible with your own eyes scriptures heretofore overlooked or rejected by man---yet true revelations that have been there all along! More, the Bible itself tells us---if we will listen---how it came about that these foundational, basic truths have been both rejected and overlooked.

    Amazing?...amazing indeed!

    But now see it for yourself, If you do not have a Bible, borrow or buy one!

    One of the very first things we need to realize, that has been utterly overlooked in the Bible is this: The creation of Adam was not completed!

    The first chapter of Genesis---called the "creation" chapter---actually does not record the completed creation at all! Man's creation was not finished! Read that amazing statement again! Be sure you understand!

    What was created, as revealed in Genesis 1, was the physical creation---the mortal , physical man and woman---the physical material with which to created the spiritual creation!

    The Bible plainly reveals this, as we shall see: What God actually is creating in the human family is the crowning, supreme masterpiece of all his works of creation! And that will be---when finished---thousands of millions of humans converted into perfect spiritual character!

    The spiritual creation is still in progress! As covered above, God created Adam and Even in God's own image, after God's likeness. He created animal life, each after its own animal kind. But he created man after the God kind. That is, as to form and shape, and in intellect, but not of spirit composition.

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    Why Were You BORN?

    Is there PURPOSE for human life? Does life, after all, have real meaning? Here is the awesome truth!

    Part 7 of 23. Did God Make Man So Destructive?

    Why did an all-wise Creator put man on this earth? Did the Creator design and make man as he is---with such tremendous intellect and creative powers, yet so destructive, and so helpless before his most important problems?

    It may come as a shock to learn the true explanations of revolting world conditions, their causes---how it all came about---and of the real purpose for human existence. But read in your own Bible with your own eyes scriptures heretofore overlooked or rejected by man---yet true revelations that have been there all along! More, the Bible itself tells us---if we will listen---how it came about that these foundational, basic truths have been both rejected and overlooked.

    Amazing?...amazing indeed!

    But now see it for yourself, If you do not have a Bible, borrow or buy one!

    One of the very first things we need to realize, that has been utterly overlooked in the Bible is this: The creation of Adam was not completed!

    The first chapter of Genesis---called the "creation" chapter---actually does not record the completed creation at all! Man's creation was not finished! Read that amazing statement again! Be sure you understand!

    What was created, as revealed in Genesis 1, was the physical creation---the mortal , physical man and woman---the physical material with which to created the spiritual creation!

    The Bible plainly reveals this, as we shall see: What God actually is creating in the human family is the crowning, supreme masterpiece of all his works of creation! And that will be---when finished---thousands of millions of humans converted into perfect spiritual character!

    The spiritual creation is still in progress! As covered above, God created Adam and Even in God's own image, after God's likeness. He created animal life, each after its own animal kind. But he created man after the God kind. That is, as to form and shape, and in intellect, but not of spirit composition.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirJohnDrake:

    Oh no!! bb you just blasphemied the Lord Almighty yourself. 
     
    He has so much documentation on these threads on who are all the ones who blasphemied Him.
     

    So he is all merciful but keeps a list so that he doesnt forget they go to hell..



    Just answer my question.. I just want you a christian to answer to your own insanity...



    I can kill everybody in the world and go to heaven, unless I say something about god ?????????????????






    Im sorry but if he thinks like this there is no way around it..       what a fucking dbag !!!
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    Oh no!! bb you just blasphemied the Lord Almighty yourself. 
     
    He has so much documentation on these threads on who are all the ones who blasphemied Him.
     

    So he is all merciful but keeps a list so that he doesnt forget they go to hell..



    Just answer my question.. I just want you a christian to answer to your own insanity...



    I can kill everybody in the world and go to heaven, unless I say something about god ?????????????????






    Im sorry but if he thinks like this there is no way around it..       what a fucking dbag !!!
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bbitw:


    So he is all merciful but keeps a list so that he doesnt forget they go to hell..



    Just answer my question.. I just want you a christian to answer to your own insanity...



    I can kill everybody in the world and go to heaven, unless I say something about god ?????????????????






    Im sorry but if he thinks like this there is no way around it..       what a fucking dbag !!!

    Why are you so angry, is your life that miserable that you want to blame God for it just like many here have blamed God for the murders of the world?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbitw:


    So he is all merciful but keeps a list so that he doesnt forget they go to hell..



    Just answer my question.. I just want you a christian to answer to your own insanity...



    I can kill everybody in the world and go to heaven, unless I say something about god ?????????????????






    Im sorry but if he thinks like this there is no way around it..       what a fucking dbag !!!

    Why are you so angry, is your life that miserable that you want to blame God for it just like many here have blamed God for the murders of the world?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

    Why are you so angry, is your life that miserable that you want to blame God for it just like many here have blamed God for the murders of the world?






    What are you talking about !?!?!!? 



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    Why are you so angry, is your life that miserable that you want to blame God for it just like many here have blamed God for the murders of the world?






    What are you talking about !?!?!!? 



     
     
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    KittyKatz, in the question of why God created mankind, there are only three possible answers to that question. If we can eliminate two of those possible answers, then what remains must be truth. Then we can expand on that one. This is called the law of exclusion. Whenever you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains must be the truth. The three options to answer the question are: He was compelled to create man, He needed to create man, or He wanted to create man. Without going into detail in the discount process, it remains that God wasn't compelled, the only reasonable explanation that can be given is that He wanted to. If in the begining, God created the heavens and the earth, day and night, and all the animals on our planet. The culmination of his creation was man, who was given a mind capable of reasoning, thinking, and even creating, although his intellectual powers in comparison with those of God, are limited. Man was made from dust, the basic element of the earth, which of itself is inorganic or without life. From the earth, man can build machines for purpose, that have no life. So, God must have created man with and for a purpose. So, humanity must be created in His likeness, man is not an animal, and has dominion over all creatures. We have to be created after the God kind.

    It is necessary for us to know evil in order for us to eventually choose "good," intelligently and willingly. It is impossible to know good without knowing evil, it is impossible to learn right without understanding what is wrong. Therefore God, Himself provides opposition to truth, in order to bring attention to truth, to clarify truth and to magnify the difference between truth and lies, between good and evil. You state; "for what reason should we have to choose or reject god," and the logic is in the politics of the universe. Satan actually means adversary, and is the opponent, the antagonist, the adversary against God. In the rejection of God, you cast a vote to have leadership of other than Him.

    Some people blame the presence of evil on society. However, society is composed of individuals who make individual choices. Most the evil is committed by people who oppose the will of society. In contrast, there are many examples of societies in the animal kingdom, especially among the primates. None of these societies have the capacity for evil that we do. We are different from all other animals on our planet, a fact that has no scientific or evolutionary explanation. Look at all the evil perpetuated within the last century alone: 6 million person killed by Hitler, 40 million Russians killed by Stalin, 2 million Cambodians killed by their own government during the 1970's. Evil acts committed by humans are so pervasive and extreme that their presence is not explained by childhood abuse, biochemical abnormalities of the brain, or any other naturalistic explanation. Who told you the latter is evil if you are not a spiritual being? The elements of the human body are products of the earth, and we are able to identify these very elements. Where on the periodic chart of elements will you find conscious. Simplicity here is in giving thanks to an intelligent God, not credit to a non-intelligent force. Or is technology holding humans back from identifying the theory of the element(s) that will negate the human spirit. Do you know what gravity, sound waves, love, pain, and, anger have in common? You can feel them but you can't touch them. The same force behind the curtain of the universe is responsible for all of the latter. Rostos, ClubDirt and yourself on the facts of science are all talking about the identical force. The three names used are; Jesus, intelligent force and non-intelligent force.

    But KittyKatz, if the Bible is fantasy like the stories of Harry Potter, lets substitute the Bible for C.S. Lewis' The Chronicles of Narnia, which has used fantasy and magic. The difference between C.S. Lewis and Harry Potter is the source of power. In The Chronicles of Narnia, the source of power is Aslan, the Lion representation of Jesus Christ. In Harry Potter, the source of power is unknown, but available to those who want to use it. So, the difference between our books is, The Chronicles of Narnia has an intelligent source of power and has a deeper meaning underlining the plot. Aslan the Lion is sacraficed, his blood is shed on the great stone table by the white witch, but Aslan rises from the dead, routs the witch, and then disappears to return at an unspecified later date. Which symbolizes a Christ-like figure. Where as in your book, the "good" guys in Harry Potter are relying upon magic and sorcery instead of God for their power. A non-intelligent force that created wizardry, witchcraft, socery, mediums, spirits and enchantments.

    The duty of science is to determine is the force of the universe: intelligent (Aslan), or non-intelligent (Harry Potter). When you discover that science declares Aslan the power behind the cosmic curtain, you can then refer to that intelligent power as God, Elohim (Hebrew for God), or continue with Aslan, the choice is yours. Then with science again, test all the books that claim to be divine and you will find Gods name. The conjecture God would create a universe and not be requisite for eminence, now thats something aint it. Even Leonardo Da Vinci signed his self-portrait, one would be of conception God who created man in his image would be of equal pertain.

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    KittyKatz, in the question of why God created mankind, there are only three possible answers to that question. If we can eliminate two of those possible answers, then what remains must be truth. Then we can expand on that one. This is called the law of exclusion. Whenever you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains must be the truth. The three options to answer the question are: He was compelled to create man, He needed to create man, or He wanted to create man. Without going into detail in the discount process, it remains that God wasn't compelled, the only reasonable explanation that can be given is that He wanted to. If in the begining, God created the heavens and the earth, day and night, and all the animals on our planet. The culmination of his creation was man, who was given a mind capable of reasoning, thinking, and even creating, although his intellectual powers in comparison with those of God, are limited. Man was made from dust, the basic element of the earth, which of itself is inorganic or without life. From the earth, man can build machines for purpose, that have no life. So, God must have created man with and for a purpose. So, humanity must be created in His likeness, man is not an animal, and has dominion over all creatures. We have to be created after the God kind.

    It is necessary for us to know evil in order for us to eventually choose "good," intelligently and willingly. It is impossible to know good without knowing evil, it is impossible to learn right without understanding what is wrong. Therefore God, Himself provides opposition to truth, in order to bring attention to truth, to clarify truth and to magnify the difference between truth and lies, between good and evil. You state; "for what reason should we have to choose or reject god," and the logic is in the politics of the universe. Satan actually means adversary, and is the opponent, the antagonist, the adversary against God. In the rejection of God, you cast a vote to have leadership of other than Him.

    Some people blame the presence of evil on society. However, society is composed of individuals who make individual choices. Most the evil is committed by people who oppose the will of society. In contrast, there are many examples of societies in the animal kingdom, especially among the primates. None of these societies have the capacity for evil that we do. We are different from all other animals on our planet, a fact that has no scientific or evolutionary explanation. Look at all the evil perpetuated within the last century alone: 6 million person killed by Hitler, 40 million Russians killed by Stalin, 2 million Cambodians killed by their own government during the 1970's. Evil acts committed by humans are so pervasive and extreme that their presence is not explained by childhood abuse, biochemical abnormalities of the brain, or any other naturalistic explanation. Who told you the latter is evil if you are not a spiritual being? The elements of the human body are products of the earth, and we are able to identify these very elements. Where on the periodic chart of elements will you find conscious. Simplicity here is in giving thanks to an intelligent God, not credit to a non-intelligent force. Or is technology holding humans back from identifying the theory of the element(s) that will negate the human spirit. Do you know what gravity, sound waves, love, pain, and, anger have in common? You can feel them but you can't touch them. The same force behind the curtain of the universe is responsible for all of the latter. Rostos, ClubDirt and yourself on the facts of science are all talking about the identical force. The three names used are; Jesus, intelligent force and non-intelligent force.

    But KittyKatz, if the Bible is fantasy like the stories of Harry Potter, lets substitute the Bible for C.S. Lewis' The Chronicles of Narnia, which has used fantasy and magic. The difference between C.S. Lewis and Harry Potter is the source of power. In The Chronicles of Narnia, the source of power is Aslan, the Lion representation of Jesus Christ. In Harry Potter, the source of power is unknown, but available to those who want to use it. So, the difference between our books is, The Chronicles of Narnia has an intelligent source of power and has a deeper meaning underlining the plot. Aslan the Lion is sacraficed, his blood is shed on the great stone table by the white witch, but Aslan rises from the dead, routs the witch, and then disappears to return at an unspecified later date. Which symbolizes a Christ-like figure. Where as in your book, the "good" guys in Harry Potter are relying upon magic and sorcery instead of God for their power. A non-intelligent force that created wizardry, witchcraft, socery, mediums, spirits and enchantments.

    The duty of science is to determine is the force of the universe: intelligent (Aslan), or non-intelligent (Harry Potter). When you discover that science declares Aslan the power behind the cosmic curtain, you can then refer to that intelligent power as God, Elohim (Hebrew for God), or continue with Aslan, the choice is yours. Then with science again, test all the books that claim to be divine and you will find Gods name. The conjecture God would create a universe and not be requisite for eminence, now thats something aint it. Even Leonardo Da Vinci signed his self-portrait, one would be of conception God who created man in his image would be of equal pertain.

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