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    noiqatall
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2011 - 11:39 PM ET #26

    by: INTERNET 11908961
    SOC

    Feb 05 12:30 PM
    STRAIGHT BET
    [8029] MAN UNITED -1-120
    1,200/1,000
    LOSE
    LOSE
    -1,200
    Feb 05 12:01 PM 
    by: INTERNET
    11909264
    NHL

    Feb 05 01:08 PM
    STRAIGHT BET
    [51] SJO SHARKS +110
    2,000/2,200
    WIN
    WIN
    2,200
    Feb 05 12:01 PM 
    by: INTERNET
    11909265
    NHL

    Feb 05 01:08 PM
    STRAIGHT BET
    [52] TOTAL u5½-130 
    (SJO SHARKS vrs BOS BRUINS)
    2,600/2,000
    WIN
    WIN

    2,000
    Feb 05 04:29 PM 
    by: INTERNET
    11923044
    NHL

    Feb 05 07:10 PM
    STRAIGHT BET
    [58] PHI FLYERS -1½+165
    2,000/3,300
    WIN
    WIN
    3,300
    Feb 05 04:29 PM 
    by: INTERNET
    11923045
    NHL

    Feb 05 07:10 PM
    STRAIGHT BET
    [62] NY ISLANDERS -1½+250
    2,000/5,000
    WIN
    WIN
    5,000
    Feb 06 09:47 AM 
    by: INTERNET
    11949720
    NFL

    Feb 06 06:34 PM
    STRAIGHT BET
    [101] PIT STEELERS +3-120
    2,400/2,000
    LOSE
    LOSE
    -2,400
    Feb 06 09:47 AM 
    by: INTERNET
    11949721
    NFL

    Feb 06 06:34 PM
    STRAIGHT BET
    [101] TOTAL o44½-110 
    (PIT STEELERS vrs GB PACKERS)
    2,200/2,000
    WIN
    WIN

    2,000
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    by: INTERNET 11908961
    SOC

    Feb 05 12:30 PM
    STRAIGHT BET
    [8029] MAN UNITED -1-120
    1,200/1,000
    LOSE
    LOSE
    -1,200
    Feb 05 12:01 PM 
    by: INTERNET
    11909264
    NHL

    Feb 05 01:08 PM
    STRAIGHT BET
    [51] SJO SHARKS +110
    2,000/2,200
    WIN
    WIN
    2,200
    Feb 05 12:01 PM 
    by: INTERNET
    11909265
    NHL

    Feb 05 01:08 PM
    STRAIGHT BET
    [52] TOTAL u5½-130 
    (SJO SHARKS vrs BOS BRUINS)
    2,600/2,000
    WIN
    WIN

    2,000
    Feb 05 04:29 PM 
    by: INTERNET
    11923044
    NHL

    Feb 05 07:10 PM
    STRAIGHT BET
    [58] PHI FLYERS -1½+165
    2,000/3,300
    WIN
    WIN
    3,300
    Feb 05 04:29 PM 
    by: INTERNET
    11923045
    NHL

    Feb 05 07:10 PM
    STRAIGHT BET
    [62] NY ISLANDERS -1½+250
    2,000/5,000
    WIN
    WIN
    5,000
    Feb 06 09:47 AM 
    by: INTERNET
    11949720
    NFL

    Feb 06 06:34 PM
    STRAIGHT BET
    [101] PIT STEELERS +3-120
    2,400/2,000
    LOSE
    LOSE
    -2,400
    Feb 06 09:47 AM 
    by: INTERNET
    11949721
    NFL

    Feb 06 06:34 PM
    STRAIGHT BET
    [101] TOTAL o44½-110 
    (PIT STEELERS vrs GB PACKERS)
    2,200/2,000
    WIN
    WIN

    2,000
     
    noiqatall
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2011 - 11:40 PM ET #27

    Feb 06 09:47 AM 
    by: INTERNET11949722
    NFL
    Feb 06 06:34 PMSTRAIGHT BET
    [101] PIT STEELERS +135
    2,000/2,700
    LOSE
    LOSE
    -2,000
    Feb 06 08:05 PM 
    by: INTERNET11992156
    NFL
    Feb 06 08:30 PMSTRAIGHT BET
    [2101] 2H PIT STEELERS -3-110
    2,200/2,000
    WIN
    WIN
    2,000
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    Feb 06 09:47 AM 
    by: INTERNET11949722
    NFL
    Feb 06 06:34 PMSTRAIGHT BET
    [101] PIT STEELERS +135
    2,000/2,700
    LOSE
    LOSE
    -2,000
    Feb 06 08:05 PM 
    by: INTERNET11992156
    NFL
    Feb 06 08:30 PMSTRAIGHT BET
    [2101] 2H PIT STEELERS -3-110
    2,200/2,000
    WIN
    WIN
    2,000
     
    noiqatall
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    Posted: Feb. 23, 2011 - 11:41 PM ET #28

    this was one week of winnings, i slowed down after this week cause i didnt think he could pay even though he told me it wasnt a problem
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    this was one week of winnings, i slowed down after this week cause i didnt think he could pay even though he told me it wasnt a problem
     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2011 - 10:26 AM ET #29

    I wouldve stopped betting with him at any time but he insisted it was ok to conitnue

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    I wouldve stopped betting with him at any time but he insisted it was ok to conitnue

     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2011 - 12:07 PM ET #30

    There is always the IRS but that would put the feds on you and his customers.

    What does he drive?  Maybe you can get his ride.

    Your gonna have to demand something in a couple of weeks cause my feel is the dude isn't going to do anything to make up ground with you.  Once he strings you out much longer, he's gonna assume he can keep it going ad nausium.

    Think of something he has that you want and let him know you are serious, otherwise he's gonna assume you are "letting it go"

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    There is always the IRS but that would put the feds on you and his customers.

    What does he drive?  Maybe you can get his ride.

    Your gonna have to demand something in a couple of weeks cause my feel is the dude isn't going to do anything to make up ground with you.  Once he strings you out much longer, he's gonna assume he can keep it going ad nausium.

    Think of something he has that you want and let him know you are serious, otherwise he's gonna assume you are "letting it go"

     
    gold6185
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2011 - 12:27 PM ET #31

    Bake him a pie.
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    Bake him a pie.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2011 - 3:06 PM ET #32

    damn, nice run dude!
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    damn, nice run dude!
     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2011 - 3:25 PM ET #33

    this was the following week where i made less bets i just happen to win them all but one

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    NHL
    Feb 08 07:08 PMSTRAIGHT BET
    [5] COB BLUE JACKETS +145
    2,000/2,900
    WIN
    WIN
    2,900
    Feb 08 04:39 PM 
    by: INTERNET12019706
    NHL

    Feb 08 07:38 PM
    STRAIGHT BET
    [9] TOTAL o5½+115 
    (STL BLUES vrs FLA PANTHERS)
    2,000/2,300
    LOSE
    LOSE

    -2,000
    Feb 08 08:56 PM 
    by: INTERNET12031234
    NBA
    Feb 08 08:57 PMSTRAIGHT BET
    [2507] 2H IND PACERS +9-115
    1,150/1,000
    WIN
    WIN
    1,000
    Feb 08 08:56 PM 
    by: INTERNET12031233
    NBA
    Feb 08 08:58 PMSTRAIGHT BET
    [2505] 2H SA SPURS -4-115
    1,150/1,000
    WIN
    WIN
    1,000
    Feb 09 08:06 PM 
    by: INTERNET12054147
    NHL
    Feb 09 08:10 PMSTRAIGHT BET
    [58] MIN WILD -130
    2,600/2,000
    WIN
    WIN
    2,000
    Feb 09 09:58 PM
    by: INTERNET DISB
    Agent Payment
    -2,500
    Feb 12 09:05 AM 
    by: INTERNET12108684
    SOC
    Feb 12 10:00 AMSTRAIGHT BET
    [8010] BIRMINGHAM CITY +165
    1,000/1,650
    WIN
    WIN
    1,650
    Feb 12 08:25 PM 
    by: INTERNET12141180
    NBA
    Feb 12 08:41 PMSTRAIGHT BET
    [511] DAL MAVERICKS -1-110
    1,100/1,000
    WIN
    WIN
    1,000
    Feb 12 08:25 PM 
    by: INTERNET12141181
    NBA
    Feb 12 08:41 PMSTRAIGHT BET
    [511] DAL MAVERICKS -115
    1,150/1,000
    WIN
    WIN
    1,000
    Feb 13 07:46 PM 
    by: INTERNET12175167
    NHL
    Feb 13 08:08 PMSTRAIGHT BET
    [65] ANA DUCKS -140
    2,800/2,000
    WIN
    WIN
    2,000
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    this was the following week where i made less bets i just happen to win them all but one

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    Feb 08 07:08 PMSTRAIGHT BET
    [5] COB BLUE JACKETS +145
    2,000/2,900
    WIN
    WIN
    2,900
    Feb 08 04:39 PM 
    by: INTERNET12019706
    NHL

    Feb 08 07:38 PM
    STRAIGHT BET
    [9] TOTAL o5½+115 
    (STL BLUES vrs FLA PANTHERS)
    2,000/2,300
    LOSE
    LOSE

    -2,000
    Feb 08 08:56 PM 
    by: INTERNET12031234
    NBA
    Feb 08 08:57 PMSTRAIGHT BET
    [2507] 2H IND PACERS +9-115
    1,150/1,000
    WIN
    WIN
    1,000
    Feb 08 08:56 PM 
    by: INTERNET12031233
    NBA
    Feb 08 08:58 PMSTRAIGHT BET
    [2505] 2H SA SPURS -4-115
    1,150/1,000
    WIN
    WIN
    1,000
    Feb 09 08:06 PM 
    by: INTERNET12054147
    NHL
    Feb 09 08:10 PMSTRAIGHT BET
    [58] MIN WILD -130
    2,600/2,000
    WIN
    WIN
    2,000
    Feb 09 09:58 PM
    by: INTERNET DISB
    Agent Payment
    -2,500
    Feb 12 09:05 AM 
    by: INTERNET12108684
    SOC
    Feb 12 10:00 AMSTRAIGHT BET
    [8010] BIRMINGHAM CITY +165
    1,000/1,650
    WIN
    WIN
    1,650
    Feb 12 08:25 PM 
    by: INTERNET12141180
    NBA
    Feb 12 08:41 PMSTRAIGHT BET
    [511] DAL MAVERICKS -1-110
    1,100/1,000
    WIN
    WIN
    1,000
    Feb 12 08:25 PM 
    by: INTERNET12141181
    NBA
    Feb 12 08:41 PMSTRAIGHT BET
    [511] DAL MAVERICKS -115
    1,150/1,000
    WIN
    WIN
    1,000
    Feb 13 07:46 PM 
    by: INTERNET12175167
    NHL
    Feb 13 08:08 PMSTRAIGHT BET
    [65] ANA DUCKS -140
    2,800/2,000
    WIN
    WIN
    2,000
     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2011 - 3:26 PM ET #34

    also the last time i saw any money
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    also the last time i saw any money
     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2011 - 4:07 PM ET #35

    Your greed broke his bank it appears. I just don't understand how you guys operate, I mean when you make a bet and win you should go get your money before you make another bet and if you lose you should pay the guy before you make another bet.

    You guys let it roll until it gets way out of hand and when it comes time to collect or pay up none of yous got the money.

    Just don't place any new bets with this local and see if he will honor what he owes you, maybe you can work something out. Hopefully he will eventually pay you off.

     

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    Your greed broke his bank it appears. I just don't understand how you guys operate, I mean when you make a bet and win you should go get your money before you make another bet and if you lose you should pay the guy before you make another bet.

    You guys let it roll until it gets way out of hand and when it comes time to collect or pay up none of yous got the money.

    Just don't place any new bets with this local and see if he will honor what he owes you, maybe you can work something out. Hopefully he will eventually pay you off.

     

     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2011 - 4:49 PM ET #36

    I agree that is a hell of a run. Hope you get paid. Goose is spot on in this situation
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    I agree that is a hell of a run. Hope you get paid. Goose is spot on in this situation
     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2011 - 5:08 PM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:


    He's small time and you busted him.  Shit happens. 

    Have a little sit down.  Tell him business is business.  You're OK for now, but can't be ignored forever.  Otherwise Business will become Personal.  When Business becomes Personal, things get ugly and nobody wins.

    Now go out to dinner, the four of you.  Have a great night out.  Don't talk business.  Give the dude a few weeks and see what happens.

    That's the best advice you're going to see here.

    Far better advice then I expected to see in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:


    He's small time and you busted him.  Shit happens. 

    Have a little sit down.  Tell him business is business.  You're OK for now, but can't be ignored forever.  Otherwise Business will become Personal.  When Business becomes Personal, things get ugly and nobody wins.

    Now go out to dinner, the four of you.  Have a great night out.  Don't talk business.  Give the dude a few weeks and see what happens.

    That's the best advice you're going to see here.

    Far better advice then I expected to see in this thread.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2011 - 5:30 PM ET #38

    That was very good advice by Goose. I think your only chance to get paid is to give this guy some breathing room and then sit down and work out some kind of payment plan with him. He obviously doesn't have 34 grand under his pillow and even if he did, he probably owes other people as well.

    You never should have let the figure get anywhere near that amount. That goes for the bookie and the customer. When it gets that high one way or another, usually something like this happens. You're obviously a pretty big player so you guys should have had a cap figure already worked out.

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    That was very good advice by Goose. I think your only chance to get paid is to give this guy some breathing room and then sit down and work out some kind of payment plan with him. He obviously doesn't have 34 grand under his pillow and even if he did, he probably owes other people as well.

    You never should have let the figure get anywhere near that amount. That goes for the bookie and the customer. When it gets that high one way or another, usually something like this happens. You're obviously a pretty big player so you guys should have had a cap figure already worked out.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2011 - 5:33 PM ET #39

    Call the police.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RickeM:

    Call the police.

     

    i doubt the police would do anything against a victimliess crime if I call them and say hey I know a local bookie.  I have a few friends that are cops, not detectives, just works in the county jail.  I will ask them if there are any action.  Do you guys know anyone who has done that and busted a bookie successfully?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickeM:

    Call the police.

     

    i doubt the police would do anything against a victimliess crime if I call them and say hey I know a local bookie.  I have a few friends that are cops, not detectives, just works in the county jail.  I will ask them if there are any action.  Do you guys know anyone who has done that and busted a bookie successfully?

     
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    Posted: Feb. 25, 2011 - 4:01 PM ET #41

    looking for a new online book!
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    looking for a new online book!
     
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    Posted: Feb. 25, 2011 - 4:10 PM ET #42

    betjamaica and matchbook have been very good to me. Always pay on time and never a problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noiqatall:

     

    i doubt the police would do anything against a victimliess crime if I call them and say hey I know a local bookie.  I have a few friends that are cops, not detectives, just works in the county jail.  I will ask them if there are any action.  Do you guys know anyone who has done that and busted a bookie successfully?



    I was being sarcastic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noiqatall:

     

    i doubt the police would do anything against a victimliess crime if I call them and say hey I know a local bookie.  I have a few friends that are cops, not detectives, just works in the county jail.  I will ask them if there are any action.  Do you guys know anyone who has done that and busted a bookie successfully?



    I was being sarcastic.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 25, 2011 - 7:48 PM ET #44

    Love Goose's advice. 

    My guy and I settle up at 5K if either of us owe that amount on Mondays. Obviously small time compared to you but It makes it not get outta control for either of us. I love it. I'd recommend setting up a similar accounting rule going forward. If you go forward with this guy after you collect. 
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    Love Goose's advice. 

    My guy and I settle up at 5K if either of us owe that amount on Mondays. Obviously small time compared to you but It makes it not get outta control for either of us. I love it. I'd recommend setting up a similar accounting rule going forward. If you go forward with this guy after you collect. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 25, 2011 - 8:01 PM ET #45

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocafella:

    he must like blowing dudes
    Bingo
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    he must like blowing dudes
    Bingo
     
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    holy shit. you hit two 2 dime plays on the islanders at +250. the islanders suck but you caught them during their lone winning streak. if i were you i'd buy a few lottery tickets. ride the wave until your luck runs out. the fuckin islanders. unbelievable
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    holy shit. you hit two 2 dime plays on the islanders at +250. the islanders suck but you caught them during their lone winning streak. if i were you i'd buy a few lottery tickets. ride the wave until your luck runs out. the fuckin islanders. unbelievable
     
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    Posted: Feb. 26, 2011 - 12:20 AM ET #47

    you took him for 10G's in one night of hockey

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:


    You're probably not the only guy looking to get paid.  The fact that he isn't communicating implies he's scared, embarrassed, and a thousand other emotions.

    Desperate people do desperate things... like losing their ass off playing blackjack.

    Send him another text, non-threatening, saying you're OK and you know he needs some time.  Tell him you'll have the GF's set up a dinner, you'll pay.  Let the guy relax a little bit.  Tell him you don't want business to become personal.

    He's hit the bottom and needs time to bounce back.  If he's been booking for a while, he'll know how to rebound, he'll know how to get back up on his feet.  He just needs some time.




     

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenGoose:


    You're probably not the only guy looking to get paid.  The fact that he isn't communicating implies he's scared, embarrassed, and a thousand other emotions.

    Desperate people do desperate things... like losing their ass off playing blackjack.

    Send him another text, non-threatening, saying you're OK and you know he needs some time.  Tell him you'll have the GF's set up a dinner, you'll pay.  Let the guy relax a little bit.  Tell him you don't want business to become personal.

    He's hit the bottom and needs time to bounce back.  If he's been booking for a while, he'll know how to rebound, he'll know how to get back up on his feet.  He just needs some time.




     

     
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    Well, no word this week from my bookie either, I haven't contacted him about it either though.  I agree with those of you who say that I should not have let it get this far.  We were friends and I kept telling him when I was up around 20k that if he needed me to stop betting that I would, but he kept saying that because we have a window it will balance out.  The window being i'm up down over 2 I pay, if I am up over 5, they pay.  Well they went over the window, and there have been some things I have heard that have led me to believe that either they got hammered or something serious happened, but I still know that he is taking bets, there fore I will still expect payment.  So, I shouldn't let it get this far yes, he was my friend, he told me its ok don't worry etc... so i kept betting, how was I supposed to know that he was not going to pay?  If it were just a local guy I didnt know, then yes I would have stopped betting.  Its 34k, its alot of money yes, but it wont be the end of the world if I never get it because I just got lucky in making that money, I am no professional capper or anything, but out of principle friends or no friends, there has to be justice served, social justice that will send messages to other bookies that if you can't pay, don't take bets.  So other bookies might hear about the bookie that didn't pay and what happened to them.... the problem is people mistake kindness for weakness and thats when things just go downhillll


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    Well, no word this week from my bookie either, I haven't contacted him about it either though.  I agree with those of you who say that I should not have let it get this far.  We were friends and I kept telling him when I was up around 20k that if he needed me to stop betting that I would, but he kept saying that because we have a window it will balance out.  The window being i'm up down over 2 I pay, if I am up over 5, they pay.  Well they went over the window, and there have been some things I have heard that have led me to believe that either they got hammered or something serious happened, but I still know that he is taking bets, there fore I will still expect payment.  So, I shouldn't let it get this far yes, he was my friend, he told me its ok don't worry etc... so i kept betting, how was I supposed to know that he was not going to pay?  If it were just a local guy I didnt know, then yes I would have stopped betting.  Its 34k, its alot of money yes, but it wont be the end of the world if I never get it because I just got lucky in making that money, I am no professional capper or anything, but out of principle friends or no friends, there has to be justice served, social justice that will send messages to other bookies that if you can't pay, don't take bets.  So other bookies might hear about the bookie that didn't pay and what happened to them.... the problem is people mistake kindness for weakness and thats when things just go downhillll


     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 3, 2011 - 5:54 AM ET #50

    holy shiiiiiiiii...


    wow nice bet on the superbowl!!!!!





    hehe, i'd stop betting until he pays. take his WIFE =)
    im just kidding.


    hehe, my gosh, can u start posting your bets so i can follow. i suck.




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    holy shiiiiiiiii...


    wow nice bet on the superbowl!!!!!





    hehe, i'd stop betting until he pays. take his WIFE =)
    im just kidding.


    hehe, my gosh, can u start posting your bets so i can follow. i suck.




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