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Didn't mean to make it sound like you are obligated to her- because of course, you are not. If I imagine myself in her position though, I would have even more of a commitment to my employer for giving me a second chance.
Yep........ also as far as the onlookers. They will actually respect you more for showing compassion. Leave the macho crap for the ball court.
Didn't mean to make it sound like you are obligated to her- because of course, you are not. If I imagine myself in her position though, I would have even more of a commitment to my employer for giving me a second chance.
Yep........ also as far as the onlookers. They will actually respect you more for showing compassion. Leave the macho crap for the ball court.
Very tough decision...she is obviously a very sick person. Sometimes woman get out of control fast playing slot machines and will do just about anything to get back to them, even hurting people they care about. I wouldn't press charges if she agreed to enter a gambling rehab and to work the GA program as best she can. You can't take her back until she is atleast a year clean and has learned a real lesson. She might not learn a thing if you just give her the job back and put her on a payment plan. Sometimes people have to hit rockbottom before they're willing to admit they have a problem and seek help.
Very tough decision...she is obviously a very sick person. Sometimes woman get out of control fast playing slot machines and will do just about anything to get back to them, even hurting people they care about. I wouldn't press charges if she agreed to enter a gambling rehab and to work the GA program as best she can. You can't take her back until she is atleast a year clean and has learned a real lesson. She might not learn a thing if you just give her the job back and put her on a payment plan. Sometimes people have to hit rockbottom before they're willing to admit they have a problem and seek help.
Since she has such a proven track record for sales and customer relations, use her skills to your advantage. Get her involved with some of your lower performing representatives a little bit- maybe she could benefit your company even more than she has in the past. She will make up for her mistake immediately and you can turn this into more of a positive situation. Employees that are around for an extended period of time don't concider it to be just a job-they feel like they are part of the "family". I worked for the same company for almost 20 years and was terminated unjustly. It absolutely has turned my life upside down-this was about 3 years ago. This job was her life and certainly she is devastated. In a large corporation, you would have no choice but to terminate, but being that it is a privately owned business, you are the one that makes the decision. I honestly feel that if you were to give her a chance to make this up to you, it will pay for itself 100 times over.
Since she has such a proven track record for sales and customer relations, use her skills to your advantage. Get her involved with some of your lower performing representatives a little bit- maybe she could benefit your company even more than she has in the past. She will make up for her mistake immediately and you can turn this into more of a positive situation. Employees that are around for an extended period of time don't concider it to be just a job-they feel like they are part of the "family". I worked for the same company for almost 20 years and was terminated unjustly. It absolutely has turned my life upside down-this was about 3 years ago. This job was her life and certainly she is devastated. In a large corporation, you would have no choice but to terminate, but being that it is a privately owned business, you are the one that makes the decision. I honestly feel that if you were to give her a chance to make this up to you, it will pay for itself 100 times over.
I disagree with the people saying to give her another chance. There's a saying for a reason.. Fool me once, same on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Just like a druggie friend that steals from you, they did it once, can't ever trust them again.
Her gambling problem is not your problem, it is her's and her family's. Based on your statements about her being good, I would not press charges. I'm sure you can find a decent replacement.
Goodluck!
I disagree with the people saying to give her another chance. There's a saying for a reason.. Fool me once, same on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Just like a druggie friend that steals from you, they did it once, can't ever trust them again.
Her gambling problem is not your problem, it is her's and her family's. Based on your statements about her being good, I would not press charges. I'm sure you can find a decent replacement.
Goodluck!
An gambling addict or any kind of addict are willing to do things that they otherwise would never do. It is the illness that does it.
She deserves a second chance under strict conditions.
An gambling addict or any kind of addict are willing to do things that they otherwise would never do. It is the illness that does it.
She deserves a second chance under strict conditions.
I hate this situation for you bro.
My heart is too big to press charges or even fire in this situation.
That's why I have a manager who takes care of those things for me.
You can't have her back in your office man. It's that simple.
I hate this situation for you bro.
My heart is too big to press charges or even fire in this situation.
That's why I have a manager who takes care of those things for me.
You can't have her back in your office man. It's that simple.
Several have asekd how I caught her. She was putting money back on her credit card account by reversing charges. The credit card company sent me a fraud alert. Best manager I ever had. Not real great at book work or details, but a fantastic schmoozer and contact builder. Warm, outgoing. Never would have suspected. Did a back ground check before hiring. Nothing criminal or anything else that would have given me second thoughts before hiring. After the first interview, I knew this was the person for the position.
Several have asekd how I caught her. She was putting money back on her credit card account by reversing charges. The credit card company sent me a fraud alert. Best manager I ever had. Not real great at book work or details, but a fantastic schmoozer and contact builder. Warm, outgoing. Never would have suspected. Did a back ground check before hiring. Nothing criminal or anything else that would have given me second thoughts before hiring. After the first interview, I knew this was the person for the position.
Have a heart to heart conversation..
set her up on a payment plan with interest .. not loan shark intrerest but reasonable 10-15% ..
Hire her back .. their are not MANY schmoozer types who can produce for 10 years .
I know this because I'm a schmoozer and deal -making is not a learned skill from school..
you either have it or you don't ...
you can hire a tecgnical person to do that work.. they are easy to find .. schmoozers are not
Have a heart to heart conversation..
set her up on a payment plan with interest .. not loan shark intrerest but reasonable 10-15% ..
Hire her back .. their are not MANY schmoozer types who can produce for 10 years .
I know this because I'm a schmoozer and deal -making is not a learned skill from school..
you either have it or you don't ...
you can hire a tecgnical person to do that work.. they are easy to find .. schmoozers are not
Maybe you could hire someone to do the financial side of her work and just let her do the contacts and schmoozing part of it.
If she indeed earned you a nice surplus i am sure it could happen again.
From the way you describe her it does seem like she is not a bad person by heart and things got out of hand with her gambling addiction - Something she needs help to deal with.
Maybe you could hire someone to do the financial side of her work and just let her do the contacts and schmoozing part of it.
If she indeed earned you a nice surplus i am sure it could happen again.
From the way you describe her it does seem like she is not a bad person by heart and things got out of hand with her gambling addiction - Something she needs help to deal with.
I had an employee with me for 9 years who did that. Except, he stole the tax deposits. He did fed time and I'm stuck fighting the IRS. Fun.
I had an employee with me for 9 years who did that. Except, he stole the tax deposits. He did fed time and I'm stuck fighting the IRS. Fun.
I interviewed for a retail job once and the question was posed to me "if a loyal employee comes back from lunch, opens the cash drawer, and puts in a nickel stating he just borrowed it for lunch, what would you do?" I said can his ass. Right answer! Employee theft represents 85% of all retail shrinkage.
In my mind she is nothing more than a thief and she needs to be punished for that. It isn't good enough for her to lose her job, she has to pay more than that. After all, you trusted this person enough to have her access your $$$ and she shit on you. I don't care how long ago it was. Do you think, since she hasn't stolen in 6 months, that she's quit trying to find a way to beat you? If so, you are naive and I don't care how many times you boned her - she is a criminal.
Just remember, today's $5K = tomorrow's $10K...
I interviewed for a retail job once and the question was posed to me "if a loyal employee comes back from lunch, opens the cash drawer, and puts in a nickel stating he just borrowed it for lunch, what would you do?" I said can his ass. Right answer! Employee theft represents 85% of all retail shrinkage.
In my mind she is nothing more than a thief and she needs to be punished for that. It isn't good enough for her to lose her job, she has to pay more than that. After all, you trusted this person enough to have her access your $$$ and she shit on you. I don't care how long ago it was. Do you think, since she hasn't stolen in 6 months, that she's quit trying to find a way to beat you? If so, you are naive and I don't care how many times you boned her - she is a criminal.
Just remember, today's $5K = tomorrow's $10K...
I would present her the opportunity to pay back the money with a very tight time line.
If she were really contrite and apologetic then she would WANT to pay you back.
I would tell her that this is your personal business and that legally she broke the law and you could prosecute..
The bare minimum would be that she repays the money..I would accept nothing less.
Force her to write an apology? What good will that do? She's not apologetic and if you have to force someone to apologize, then they're not sorry and it's a moot point.
I would present her the opportunity to pay back the money with a very tight time line.
If she were really contrite and apologetic then she would WANT to pay you back.
I would tell her that this is your personal business and that legally she broke the law and you could prosecute..
The bare minimum would be that she repays the money..I would accept nothing less.
Force her to write an apology? What good will that do? She's not apologetic and if you have to force someone to apologize, then they're not sorry and it's a moot point.
Update. While I was showering, she left an message on my machine. She again stated how sorry she was, it would have never happened but because of the gambling. This job was her love and life, and she understand if I don't call her back to talk about giving her the job back, but she had to try, and sincrely hopes I call her back. She said her husband was very upset and disappointed with her, and she wasn't sure what he was going to do regarding their marriage. She said they have spoken with clergy, and she is going to get some professional help. She told me if I would hire her back, I would have the most dedicated employee ever, and she would never ever even think of stealing from me again. I could hear the desperation in her voice. WOW. I am not the one who commited this act, but I feel badly now. I have received from this board what I thought I might, opinions for hiring her back and letting her go (even one or two for prosecution). Some very valid and well thought out points are being made. Thank you. The majority of the respondents for this weigh in on hiring her back, and making restitution, maybe a little every paycheck, plus her bonus, which wouldn't be long at all to pay back to me. I am still torn. Dam, if it were anybody else in my business, I wouldn't be having this conflict. I couldn't sleep much last night over this, so I need to make a decision SOON.
She's scrambling pal. She'll do and say anything to get back into your good graces. It takes one helluva lot of confidence in someone to trust them with your money, why would you leave it at risk? By the way, as for her clergy and all that other sob, my reaction is oh boo-hoo. Get out.
Update. While I was showering, she left an message on my machine. She again stated how sorry she was, it would have never happened but because of the gambling. This job was her love and life, and she understand if I don't call her back to talk about giving her the job back, but she had to try, and sincrely hopes I call her back. She said her husband was very upset and disappointed with her, and she wasn't sure what he was going to do regarding their marriage. She said they have spoken with clergy, and she is going to get some professional help. She told me if I would hire her back, I would have the most dedicated employee ever, and she would never ever even think of stealing from me again. I could hear the desperation in her voice. WOW. I am not the one who commited this act, but I feel badly now. I have received from this board what I thought I might, opinions for hiring her back and letting her go (even one or two for prosecution). Some very valid and well thought out points are being made. Thank you. The majority of the respondents for this weigh in on hiring her back, and making restitution, maybe a little every paycheck, plus her bonus, which wouldn't be long at all to pay back to me. I am still torn. Dam, if it were anybody else in my business, I wouldn't be having this conflict. I couldn't sleep much last night over this, so I need to make a decision SOON.
She's scrambling pal. She'll do and say anything to get back into your good graces. It takes one helluva lot of confidence in someone to trust them with your money, why would you leave it at risk? By the way, as for her clergy and all that other sob, my reaction is oh boo-hoo. Get out.
callmetim. Never, ever "boned" her. I would be just as guilty of a henious sin as she is. I don't behave that way. I would never betray my family with an affair. Never. She is not that pretty anyway, lol.
I do get what you are saying cmt. I really do. And, 99.9% of the time I would whole-heartedly agree with you. I do believe there are exceptions (very rare) in most cases--maybe not armed robbery or murder, but I do believe good people can make mistakes. Thanks for contributing. I am leaning on letting her go though, with no criminal charges. Just haven't made up my mind for certain. Just FYI.
callmetim. Never, ever "boned" her. I would be just as guilty of a henious sin as she is. I don't behave that way. I would never betray my family with an affair. Never. She is not that pretty anyway, lol.
I do get what you are saying cmt. I really do. And, 99.9% of the time I would whole-heartedly agree with you. I do believe there are exceptions (very rare) in most cases--maybe not armed robbery or murder, but I do believe good people can make mistakes. Thanks for contributing. I am leaning on letting her go though, with no criminal charges. Just haven't made up my mind for certain. Just FYI.
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