9/11 conspiracy theories

Come on Russia and China, address the UN and state you have evidence of, and show the You Tube Videos as a presentation, that the USA is guilty of killing thousands of its own citizens, and demand arrest warrants for those involved in the conspiracy in the Bush Administration.  Show the video proof of the controlled demolition of Tower 7. Explain how basic physics shows that is the only way , the collapse occurred


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The Russian secret service can assassinate a dissident in London using an umbrella, tip to brush against his leg in passing and inject a small pellet 1.5millimitre wide, containing ricin, yet fail to pick up a conspiracy by the US government.

exactly

there has been high rise fires that burn days and they never collapsed

also show me one clear video of a plane heading toward the Pentagon, since there is only like a million cameras pointed at the building, including cameras from satellites in the sky.
also why did the FBI confiscate all the videos from stores 20 minutes after the so called plane hit the Pentagon.  There are so many things wrong with that whole day
It really is amazing how so many people cant use a little common sense and see threw the bullshit the govt tries force feeding us.

what makes you think the russians don't know, are they supposed to go on the View and talk about it or what

Talk about it, if they knew they would scream it from the highest building.   It would be Russia's finest hour, it would surpass the taking of Berlin.

this is what common-sense tells us

Conspiracies on small scale, never mind large scale can't occur due to common sense on Human nature and behaviour , and all the spying that goes on and listening, look at these ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Note that peripheral figures in any conspiracy would be more likely to come forward because their limited role would not result in serious punishment-in fact, most likely no punishment at all because of a plea bargain in which they'd have to name higher-ups. And their inducement would be considerable financial rewards (books, TV movies based on their disclosures, etc.). And mere informants, who wouldn't be exposed to any legally adverse consequences, would only have financial rewards for coming forward. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- it is not possible to keep secrets In his book, Loving God, former presidential assistant Charles Colson, in writing about Watergate, said, "With the most powerful office in the world at stake, a small band of hand-picked loyalists [of President Richard Nixon] ... could not hold a conspiracy together for more than two weeks.” -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- another point, it is amazing, that no other country intelligence gathered any intelligence about a 9/11 conspiracy, Russia and China would have had a field day with any conspiracy that USA had killed its own citizens. All conversations are monitored, other countries listen, the UK is one of the best at tracking and listening and you dont think MI5,MI6 CHQ would have picked up something, then you say UK was in on it as well. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The report to the European Parliament of 2001 states: "If UKUSA states operate listening stations in the relevant regions of the earth, in principle they can intercept all telephone, fax and data traffic the capability to listen in on every phone call, e-mail, fax and text . ---------------------------------------------------------------  The entire English-speaking world is covered by a massive surveillance system which sifts through the mind-bogglingly large movements of data and communications every day. --------------------------------------------------------------------- The largest computers in the world, stationed at the headquarters of inter-connected agencies such as the NSA, GCHQ (in the UK), DSD (in Australia, CSE (in Canada) and the GCSB (in New Zealand), listen in to just about everything. Their remit: anti-terrorism, external and internal threats, and sometimes they operate to counter threats to the economies of these countries ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- I would also presume Russia and China had a credible capability . ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The 13 experts of the NIST Investigation would if there had been a conspiracy produced a fraudulant report Apparently, then, such distinguished Americans as these experts got together in some smoky back room and all of them agreed, for some ungodly reason, to do the most dishonourable deed imaginable-give organized crime, the CIA, the military-industrial complex, or whoever was behind the 9/11, a free pass in the murder of citizens of United States. And in the process, not only risk destroying everything they had worked for-their reputation and legacy to their families-but expose themselves to prosecution for the crime of accessory after the fact to murder. Ask yourself this: would any of these investigators, for instance, risk being remembered as an accessory after the fact to the murder of this nation's citizens, one who disgraced himself his country. The mere asking of the question demonstrates the absurdity of the thought. Indeed, why would any of the members of the NIST and their staff stake their good reputation on a report they prepared which they knew to be fraudulent?

 

This is what i dont understand. What happened to the passengers? They all have families, relatives, friends, employers, employees etc etc.

Surely someone would have come forward by now or someone spotted. Did they all get murdered by the US govt? It is possible..Money is the root of all evil.

You an expert on

Structural Performance and Aircraft Impact Damage Prediction

Structural Fire Response and Collapse

Mechanical and Metallurgical Analysis of Structural Steel

Civil Engineering

Mechanical Engineering

Structural Engineering,

Metallurgy

Mechanical Engineering & Materials Science

Physical Chemistry

Physics,

Then don't make such declarations. Leave it to the panel of experts that do. Don't try and tell us how long buildings take to collapse when really you have no idea.

yes that has been covered


Note that peripheral figures in any conspiracy would be more likely to come forward because their limited role would not result in serious punishment-in fact, most likely no punishment at all because of a plea bargain in which they'd have to name higher-ups. And their inducement would be considerable financial rewards (books, TV movies based on their disclosures, etc.). And mere informants, who wouldn't be exposed to any legally adverse consequences, would only have financial rewards for coming forward.
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BMA you know what's funny? Is that you think that if there were people who were involved, that they would be alive to tell the tale. If there was a conspiracy, those people are already dead. Second if they told they would be killed and their families would be killed.

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And all these experts sat down together and agreed to be part of a conspiracy that killed thousands of American Citizens, to produce a fraudulent report on how Tower 7 collapsed

well the NIST are alive, even though they produced fraudulent reports( according to the truthers)on how the buildings collapsed, as are most of the people in power at the time

I don't know what to believe but I do know my government lies and is constructed upon well orchestrated lies. There are experts who disagree with those experts.

https://www.ae911truth.org/
Architects & Engineers For 9/11 Truth

The NYC Fire fighters who know more about building collapses than most, if not all, of them. It's their LIFE to know. Literally! Yet they don't call for an investigation into the MASS MURDER of over 300 of their brothers.

Many of these men and women come from the military, yet we are to believe they are so afraid they rather die in the government’s next mass murder than come out and expose this.

The NYC Police department who lost over 20 lives. They didn't ask for an investigation.

All the people in the Pentagon who have not called for an investigation. Many who are liberal and centrist. They did or said nothing while people supposedly trucked in airplane parts to cover the crime.

The media  who doesn't follow up on the biggest mass murder and conspiracy in American history. It seems no one wants a Nobel prize for journalism. Not only the American media but foreign press like the BBC and Al Jazeera.

The photographers from around the world who took pictures of the towers which clearly show bowing of the perimeter columns. These photos support the NIST hypothesis that the sagging trusses lead to the collapse. Some photos also show the core intact shortly after collapse which also not only support the NIST hypothesis but discredits the "Controlled demolition" account.

Everyone in the NIST who covers up the largest mass murder in US history. This independent organization doesn't have a moral person in hundreds of employees because not one has come out exposing this so called "Conspiracy". In fact, the hundreds of scientist who signed onto the report are willing to not only lie for Bush but cover up the largest mass murder in American history. Some suggest only a handful can do the job but that's simply impossible. The team in charge of the computer modeling has to be in sync with the team of structural engineers and so on. There are hundreds involved in this investigation and every team has to work with other teams using the same evidence and specifications.

this is also funny
A common excuse for no one coming out who was part of this so called  9/11 conspiracy is they fear death. If you analyze the argument carefully you realize they are debunking themselves. Why would even people in the military be more fearful of exposing this than the common conspiracy theorists behind a computer monitor? Either they don't believe what they're saying or they actually think they are more fearless than the thousands of others who would have had to be "in on it". As if people in the CIA or FBI couldn't figure out how to get the message out if they wanted to without exposing who they are. People, dates, places, memos and other evidence could easily be disseminated to the public without exposing who they are. The only reason they claim the people are paralyzed with fear is because they have too in order for the conspiracy story to work.

I’m playing devils advocate BMA

9/11 Survivors and Family Members
Question the 9/11 Commission Report
https://patriotsquestion911.com/survivors.html

Listen to this BMA it’s only a minute long
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWp6LHY4En0

The 9/11 Memorial Scams
https://septemberclues.info/vicsims_photo-analyses.htm

All I know is if I knew something about who was involved on 911?

I would shut my mouth.

A substantial majority of the conspiracy community is  extremely gullible, believing every story they hear without bothering to check it to see if it is accurate or makes any sense.

 As long as the story helps their theory, they buy it.

 They would improve the quality of their research appreciably by simply embracing rule number one of the journalistic profession: "If your mama says she loves you, check it out."

"For conspiracy theorists, all discrepancies, contradictions, anomalies, et cetera, are suspicious, and are the heart and soul of the conspiracy movement.

In their universe, everything proceeds perfectly and there is no such thing as human error, incompetence, coincidence, or failure of memory.


There are no innocent, benign explanations for anything.

Mysterious and Suspicious Deaths


One of the very most popular and durable myths 9/11 that conspiracy theorists have successfully peddled to millions of Americans is that wiltnesses who knew things that the conspirators who did 9/11 didn't want anyone to know met "mysterious" or "suspicious" deaths.


The myth has many inherent weaknesses, just one of which is that once someone has already told his story, the cat, as the expression goes, "is already out of the bag."

 And that's one of the main reasons why the conspiracy theorists' mysterious-deaths argument,  is lame on its face

 Many of the witnesses who allegedly died mysteriously had already told their stories.



So Money SRH, the threat of death to you or your family has no clout, because once you spill the beans, killing anyone is useless.