The virus and betting College Football

DUFL - to clarify, my retort was not directed at you at all, but a few others on this string...

Couldn't help himself, emboldened by mob mentality.

PLEASE CLARIFY EXACTLY, WHAT INFORMATION IN this thread IS FALSE and explain why? 

I've come up with a new term, I call it "CONVENIENT IMPLICATION". Politicians LOVE to use it, media has adapted it, and now social media runs by it. So what is it? 

It is when, for instance, someone says the coronavirus is real, it's out there, but is not the threat it was early on. The CONVENIENT IMPLYER replies, "I always bookmark when someone says the virus is a hoax". Thereby implying the poster is saying the virus is a hoax based on what they said without coming right out and saying it.

Then you get "imbeciles spreading false information" but nothing about what information, just a complete generalization. CONVENIENT IMPLICATION.

I too would like to know what is false?

LHH provides no basis for an argument, just calls people’s names.  But sure, I’m the imbecile for being the only one to provide any sort of data and first hand knowledge of the covid-19 situation.  Only on covers man I swear 

What does COVID-19 have to do with college football capping per se?   You guys seem enthralled with it, along with the recent civil unrest related to the police brutality protests...Why?    Do you think your partisan rants and diatribes are giving yourselves and anyone else an advantage with regard to capping for the 2020 College Football season?  I don't think so...  Ask yourselves, why are there not more posters on here?     Because most rational folks don't want to waste time bemoaning theories that are unsubstantiated and add no value to any capping efforts that they may be considering, since it is extremely uncertain and unlikely that there will be a college football season in 2020.   Perhaps you two, Uniman and Hockey, would better served doing your own stealth research, so you can gain an advantage, if there there is indeed a 2020 college football season.    No one really keeps score on Covers.    We are all anonymous here.    Personally, I would appreciate if you two would focus on providing your perspectives on the upcoming season, even if it will be delayed or not played at all.    Position analysis, coaching changes, Weeks 1-4 gems, based on available information.   That would be value add to all of us.  But, no, its COVID, its partisan political diatribes, that only make yourselves feel better, and add no value.   That is my argument.   You guys are spouting BS that is of virtually no value to the forum.  Its almost July.  In a normal year, we would be a month away from opening college football camps.  We would be devouring Steele for hidden gems.    I regret some of my name calling, but I think I speak for a lot of silent reviewers here.   It would be appreciated, if you focus on college football capping for 2020, or perhaps 2021 or whenever we fortunate to place a wager on college football again.   Focus on showing empathy for the folks who have died of this scourge like Wise's sister et al.   Life is so much more important than college football, or whether or not you or anyone else ever wins a college football wager again.    Show some empathy for the players, their families, the coaches. For the most part, you two, meaning Uniman and Hockey have been devoid of empathy.     I recommend that the moderators lock this and other hyper partisan strings, and encourage very smart cappers like Uniman and Hockey, to shelve this COVID and race BS, and focus on the technical and fundamental aspects of capping college football for a potential 2020 season or beyond.    If you two, Uniman and Hockey want to attack me that's fine.  I don't care...I recommend that one or both of you start new strings, and keep COVID and race issues in the background, and focus on college football capping fundamentals and technical analysis.   If nothing else, it will keep you and others focussed, while we await the decision as to whether or not there will be a college football season.    It will provide the benefit to this forum of a Return to Normalcy, in very volatile and uncertain times...Peace LHH

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you clearly don’t read anything I post.  Also, the thread is literally labeled “the virus.” 

The rest of the partisan nonsense doesn’t even warrent a response bc as in another thread you are calling out the wrong person.

You lost me with that first sentence. I think Post #1 spells that out.

I have never attacked you in this thread. I have responded to comments you made, many comments I found to be false. And I did label you "last word LH" as it seems to me you have to have the last word.

Yes, I got my "I don't trust the media" message across several times. As someone said earlier, "I would laugh if it wasn't so true."

It's my thread, you can ignore it or you can participate.

If football does happen the first words out of the TV commentators' mouths will be the affect of COVID and then how many players will be using the national attention to display their views on social issues while kneeling during our national anthem.

Why shouldn't I have the right to display my views as it relates to, what I feel is, the real COVID impact vs the perceived COVID impact to college football and give TANGABLE evidence to why I feel the way I do?

I am done with you clowns...I will come back if it appears that there will be a college football season in 2020...

Fantastic news for the entire internet

There will be NFL and college football, this is an illness that causes calamity and mortality to the old and/or the sick.

Though they probably contributing to the spreading the disease because they are fearless and perhaps reckless, (like we were at ages 18-21)  young and strong athletes are almost always unaffected and will ultimately contribute to herd immunity, the faster, the better.  No athletes will be put at risk by playing.

EVERYONE WILL BE EXPOSED TO THIS ILLNESS, end of story.

No vaccine will ride in from out of town to save the day.

As with the plague, where it was discovered that it was fleas that carried and spread the virus, so it will be with this, that something will be found to be a carrier, or possibly there is something something in our food or water supply.

A little more complicated than that I believe. Bookieassassin was right when he mentioned black players/white staff-Admins.

Racism, IMO, appears to be the blame for ALL woes today. Universities will be AFRAID to bring undo attention to exploiting the black youth.

It's too bad ALL of America cannot just sit down like civilized adults, air our grievances, and work out solutions to what plagues us today. We really have NO REAL LEADERS. NOT ANYWHERE. IMO. that is why I choose the best of the worse, as I see it.

There is nothing sinister in the water supply other than trace amounts of all the drugs we take, piss out, flushed to a sewer plant, discharged into waterways, and then pumped back to the drinking water filter plant. Those trace amounts of sometimes mind altering drugs do not get filtered out unless reverse osmosis is used. (UV light helps too)By trace I mean parts per billion, parts per trillion. This includes birth control drugs that will eventually make your male children's sex organs smaller.   Wow, moving off topic here!!

Studies at sewage treatment plants have been conducted looking for the virus that has been.... crapped out. Sewage plant workers face no threat of contracting the virus from contaminated water, the virus is dead. Interesting article here;

 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-sewage/italy-sewage-study-suggests-covid-19-was-there-in-december-2019-idUSKBN23Q1J9

Humans will decide if CFB will be played, real COVID threat or not. Many factors, not all COVID related, will determine this. MY TAKE.

Another story; https://www.theweek.in/news/health/2020/06/22/an-italy-sewage-study-raises-question-did-coronavirus-originate-earlier-than-we-thought.html

Very interesting that there is proof the virus was in countries other than China BEFORE China reported it!! 

IMO, have no facts yet, it was not that dangerous until one of several mutations made it so. Again, just my speculation.

My bad, it's OZONE not UV Light that helps break down pharmaceuticals.

Couple of nice Detroit Free Press articles talking to Michigan's defensive locker room leader Kwity Paye.

First article from March 25th where Paye says;

“It’s difficult," Paye said. "I know that everyone’s been saying it, but you’re just bored all day. You just sit in the house and you’re like, man. We’ll get our workouts done but then after that, there’s nothing really to do. Do homework and play video games. But other than that, you can’t really go out and hang out because the virus is out there.

"The first two days, we were like, ‘Oh yeah, it’s funny that we’re just chilling,’ and then after that, we were like, man, I miss it."

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/wolverines/2020/03/25/michigan-football-daily-routine-coronavirus-outbreak-kwity-paye/2909236001/

Now latest article from D. Free Press;

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/college/university-michigan/wolverines/2020/07/01/michigan-football-kwity-paye-campus-workout-precautions/3285112001/

Gives you an inside look of what is now the new normal.

In another wave of testing Michigan has tested 89 student-athletes and staff, ZERO positive!!

Michigan State's third round of testing, 41 tested, ZERO Positive!!!

Since Michigan was one of the first states the virus passed through, it is my hope the rest of the country will get where Michigan's at in two months or so.

Not to say the state of Mich. is virus free. A college bar in East Lansing recently is linked to over 100 cases. Bars in southern Mich. now limited to outdoor service. A small outbreak in Jackson County linked to Tenn. and Fla. travel.

Really wish more folks would be tested for anti-bodies, would be interesting to see what those numbers are. 

Henry Ford Health study results on Hydroxychloroquine VERY INTERESTING. To say the least.

The next study results will REALLY BE INTERESTING!

From Detroit Free Press;

"A study to determine whether hydroxychloroquine may prevent COVID-19 infection is also underway at Henry Ford. The randomized, double-blinded WHIP study will examine 3,000 first responders and health care workers. There are 619 people currently enrolled."

Maybe CFB Players will be taking this drug in the near future. WOULDN'T THAT BE HILARIOUS. 

Updated news around the Big10;

-Ohio State had halted voluntary workouts for all athletics on July 9th has resumed workouts on July 15th. Ohio State will provide any numbers.

-Indiana U has halted football workouts as six positives have been reported.

-University of Michigan has reported 4 new positive cases from latest round of testing, which was 121 tested. After several rounds of testing 8 positives have been recorded out of 635 tests conducted. Workouts remain on schedule. Expanded workouts and walkthroughs with coaches begin on July 24th. Another note from media site MLIVE; The state also is experiencing an influx of positive COVD-19 cases. The seven-day moving average in Michigan on July 16 was 594 new cases per day, up from 495 on July 9, according to the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services. Not mentioned is the amount of testing in July has almost doubled the per day averages of June testing, positive rate is at 3.1% of those tested. More testing is better.

Michigan State reports; 

Michigan State’s latest round of COVID-19 testing, conducted July 13, produced three positive results among 38 athletes tested, the school announced Friday. The same day, 27 athletic staff members were tested and one returned a positive result, per MSU.

None of the three athletes who tested positive were taking part in voluntary workouts the past two weeks, MSU said. Among the three who returned positive results, one was living in quarantine, one had been in isolation and one was being tested for the first time, per MSU. Three additional MSU athletes are being quarantined for 14 days because they are roommates with athletes who tested positive.

MSU has been conducting COVID-19 testing since the beginning of June. The school says it has conducted a total of 402 tests on athletes, with seven positives, and 104 staff members, with one positive.

Penn State; Penn State has administered nearly 200 COVID-19 tests to its student-athletes during a phased campus return that dates back to June 8. According to a press release published by the university Wednesday afternoon, zero tests have produced a positive result.

Coach Franklin; 

"I would hope that it starts with what's the right thing to do for people's health and then also factors in the economic aspect of it as well," Franklin said in May. "Because we're not going to get to a point where there's no risk. At some point we're going to have to jump back in and there's going to be some risk associated with that.

But I would hope, once again, no different than I tell my players — every decision we make is based on what's in the best interest of the program, and then what's in the best interest of the individual. And I hope in this situation, it's based on what's in the best interest of the health of our country, and our people, number one. And then economics have to factor in, too. But in that order."

Northwestern; Does not appear Northwestern is reporting any data. School is in a phased approach to reopening, currently in phase 4.

Illinois; Will not release any test results. Tail-gating has been banned, 20% capacity planned for stadium.

Purdue; The Purdue athletic department has acknowledged additional positive COVID-19 tests among athletes, coaches or staff members since announcing its first confirmed case two weeks ago.  

However, an athletic department spokesperson declined to provide the number of positive tests or if any sports have suspended voluntary workouts due to the additional cases.

IOWA; 

The Iowa football program has been taking unprecedented measures to try and limit the spread of the coronavirus since players returned to campus June 8, and there’s been good news and bad news — depending on your perspective.

Let’s start with the bad. Within the athletics department, positive tests are on the rise. According to figures released each Monday by the university, there were 22 positive tests out of 97 conducted (a 22.7% positivity rate) between June 15 and July 12. Up until June 14, there were only three positive tests and 343 negatives (a 0.9% positive rate). The university doesn’t specify which sports have been affected or whether the positive tests are for athletes or staff.

There are silver linings, as mentioned. Iowa head coach Kirk Ferentz said that although there have been some positive cases, none have been serious.

“If there are any positives at this point, the symptoms have been relatively minor. Nobody has really been affected greatly. No hospitalizations, those types of things,” Ferentz said in a news conference just outside the north end zone of Kinnick Stadium. “That’s been good. We’re getting good medical support.”

Nebraska; 6/29, Multiple Nebraska student athletes have tested positive for the coronavirus.

The University of Nebraska athletic department confirmed to KETV NewsWatch 7 that five Nebraska football players have tested positive for COVID-19.

According to the athletic department, a staff member of the football team tested positive for the coronavirus. Two other student athletes also tested positive.

About 250 members of the Nebraska athletic department, athletes and staff, have been tested multiple times in the past three months.

The school has not issued a statement or provided any further information.

Minnesota;  7/1, The Gophers athletic department announced Tuesday night that seven student-athletes from multiple sports have tested positive for COVID-19, putting Minnesota in line with the testing numbers recently reported by other Big Ten schools.

With Gophers student-athletes returning to their facilities for voluntary workouts this month, the department administered 170 tests, per a release.

Most of the football team is back on campus, anticipating beginning official activities July 13.

Men’s and women’s basketball, soccer and volleyball are also all in various states of returning.

Rutgers; Nothing recently reported. 6/22; 

Wisconsin; The University of Wisconsin announced Wednesday that seven student-athletes have tested positive for COVID-19.

I go back n forth 76 times a week between “they’re low risk, play the games” & “we don’t know what we don’t know, it’s not worth it.”

Pay close attention to Monday’s Oxford U study being published.  As soon as news starts coming out that treatments and vaccines are showing strong results with potential availability by the fall months then a lot of this (as in sports restrictions, people not wanting to travel, crowds, etc) goes away.  Yes it’s minor risks for most, but when your treatment is a mask and 6 feet it’s hard to justify moving forward with ANY potential risky activities. 

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Moderna will be closely behind.  Also sounds like some oral medications as treatment options may be available come fall time per Dr. Fauci.  All bigger news than the current numbers being reported on a daily basis in terms of a 2020 season.

Will be watching, thanks!

How about those breathalyzer COVID tests? Seem like they are moving, but slow with testing.

I do too until I think......What would the risk factor difference be between football players practicing/playing, under adult supervision most of the time or sitting at home or on campus not playing? They are NOT going to just SIT AND WAIT, we see that already with young adults across the country. 

Seems to me the risk may be less for the majority if they were kept busy.

Hockeynight, finally figured out the mis-matched COVID numbers from Michigan. The report to WorldOMeters website includes "probables". Those instances where no test results but they were exposed to a confirmed COVID patient and/or show symptoms.

Michigan doing really good right now despite the reports from the media. Percentage of positive tests below 2%! Over 30,000 tests a day now.