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    Observations and Week 12 ponderings

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    Skymasters0n
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2024 - 2:02 PM ET #26

    Ticky tack call?  yeaaaaaa no.  Did you watch any of the after game replays?  During the game they didn't show a good replay, so you couldn't base anything on that.  But look at the video on Terry McAulays twitter.  Dude got mugged, almost pulled to the ground.  That has to be called.  

    Harlans comments were disgraceful, we can only hope that 40K will come out of his own pocket.

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    Ticky tack call?  yeaaaaaa no.  Did you watch any of the after game replays?  During the game they didn't show a good replay, so you couldn't base anything on that.  But look at the video on Terry McAulays twitter.  Dude got mugged, almost pulled to the ground.  That has to be called.  

    Harlans comments were disgraceful, we can only hope that 40K will come out of his own pocket.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2024 - 2:17 PM ET #27

    Terrys quote in case you dont have twitter:

    "It’s a foul. It’s always been a foul and it will always be a foul regardless of game, time, score, or situation. The embarrassing and shameless on-field actions and press conference rant of the Utah AD should result in severe consequences. His behavior was despicable."

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    Terrys quote in case you dont have twitter:

    "It’s a foul. It’s always been a foul and it will always be a foul regardless of game, time, score, or situation. The embarrassing and shameless on-field actions and press conference rant of the Utah AD should result in severe consequences. His behavior was despicable."

     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2024 - 4:45 PM ET #28

    ACC

    Clemson (-11, up from -9') at PITTSBURGH - The Tigers have no wiggle room in the ACC after a shocking 33-21 upset loss to Louisville two weeks ago. They rebounded last week at Virginia Tech, holding the Hokies to 228 total yards, including just 40 on the ground (1.9 YPR), in a 24-14 win. Now they face a Panthers team that may be without QB Eli Holstein, who was injured (concussion?) on a late hit in the third quarter of a 24-19 loss to Virginia. 

    CALIFORNIA (-9, up from -7) vs Syracuse - The Golden Bears have won two straight, and need one more win for bowl eligibility. Last Friday they never trailed in a 46-36 win at Wake Forest. It's the second straight road game for the Orange, who surrendered 313 rushing yards (6.1 YPR) in a 37-31 loss at Boston College. 

    NOTRE DAME (-23, up from -22') vs Virginia - The Irish likely have to win out to make the CFP, and have won seven straight since their Week Two debacle vs Northern Illinois. They're also 6-1 ATS since then, and have covered five straight games. The Cavaliers need one more win to get to a bowl, but with this game, followed by SMU and Virginia Tech, that sixth win might be hard to come by. Still, Virginia is 3-1 SU, and 3-0-1 ATS on the road, and overall have covered five of their last six games.

    SMU (-19', up from -15) vs Boston College - The Mustangs are off a bye and have been as hot as any team in the country since a loss to BYU in early September. With Miami's loss to Georgia Tech last week, SMU sits atop the ACC standings at 5-0, and face an Eagles team that's been outgained in their last seven by an average of 93 yards a game. The huge line movement here is probably due to BC QB Thomas Castellanos entering the transfer portal after being benched in last week's win over Syracuse. Not sure I wanna step in front of SMU right now regardless.

    Louisville (-20', up from -19') at STANFORD - The Cardinals vs the Cardinal. Louisville is off a bye following a huge upset win at Clemson two weeks ago. Stanford has been largely noncompetitive in their last six games and is playing out the string.

    NORTH CAROLINA (-11, up from -10) vs Wake Forest - The Tar Heels are off a bye and seem to have turned things around, winning their last two and snapping a four game skid. They've won the last three meetings between these two by a grand total of 11 points but didn't play last year. The Demon Deacons are 0-5 vs FBS teams at home this year, but are 3-0 SU away from Winston-Salem, and 2-0-1 ATS. Weird.

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    ACC

    Clemson (-11, up from -9') at PITTSBURGH - The Tigers have no wiggle room in the ACC after a shocking 33-21 upset loss to Louisville two weeks ago. They rebounded last week at Virginia Tech, holding the Hokies to 228 total yards, including just 40 on the ground (1.9 YPR), in a 24-14 win. Now they face a Panthers team that may be without QB Eli Holstein, who was injured (concussion?) on a late hit in the third quarter of a 24-19 loss to Virginia. 

    CALIFORNIA (-9, up from -7) vs Syracuse - The Golden Bears have won two straight, and need one more win for bowl eligibility. Last Friday they never trailed in a 46-36 win at Wake Forest. It's the second straight road game for the Orange, who surrendered 313 rushing yards (6.1 YPR) in a 37-31 loss at Boston College. 

    NOTRE DAME (-23, up from -22') vs Virginia - The Irish likely have to win out to make the CFP, and have won seven straight since their Week Two debacle vs Northern Illinois. They're also 6-1 ATS since then, and have covered five straight games. The Cavaliers need one more win to get to a bowl, but with this game, followed by SMU and Virginia Tech, that sixth win might be hard to come by. Still, Virginia is 3-1 SU, and 3-0-1 ATS on the road, and overall have covered five of their last six games.

    SMU (-19', up from -15) vs Boston College - The Mustangs are off a bye and have been as hot as any team in the country since a loss to BYU in early September. With Miami's loss to Georgia Tech last week, SMU sits atop the ACC standings at 5-0, and face an Eagles team that's been outgained in their last seven by an average of 93 yards a game. The huge line movement here is probably due to BC QB Thomas Castellanos entering the transfer portal after being benched in last week's win over Syracuse. Not sure I wanna step in front of SMU right now regardless.

    Louisville (-20', up from -19') at STANFORD - The Cardinals vs the Cardinal. Louisville is off a bye following a huge upset win at Clemson two weeks ago. Stanford has been largely noncompetitive in their last six games and is playing out the string.

    NORTH CAROLINA (-11, up from -10) vs Wake Forest - The Tar Heels are off a bye and seem to have turned things around, winning their last two and snapping a four game skid. They've won the last three meetings between these two by a grand total of 11 points but didn't play last year. The Demon Deacons are 0-5 vs FBS teams at home this year, but are 3-0 SU away from Winston-Salem, and 2-0-1 ATS. Weird.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2024 - 5:17 PM ET #29

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    Whatever. I've heard a number of people agree that it was a ticky tack call. I saw a lot worse than that in the Ohio St.-Penn St. game. The Buckeyes DBs were mugging the receivers all game and weren't called. There's no consistency whatsoever when it comes to officiating.

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    Whatever. I've heard a number of people agree that it was a ticky tack call. I saw a lot worse than that in the Ohio St.-Penn St. game. The Buckeyes DBs were mugging the receivers all game and weren't called. There's no consistency whatsoever when it comes to officiating.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2024 - 5:52 PM ET #30

    I haven't heard anyone who actually watched the replay say that it wasn't textbook defensive holding.  But you are free to not watch the replay at all and go by what you heard from the cry baby sore loser AD.  

    And what does seeing worse in a totally different game have anything to do with this.

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    I haven't heard anyone who actually watched the replay say that it wasn't textbook defensive holding.  But you are free to not watch the replay at all and go by what you heard from the cry baby sore loser AD.  

    And what does seeing worse in a totally different game have anything to do with this.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2024 - 6:19 PM ET #31

    @Skymasters0n

    Sounds like all you wanna do is argue. Unless you have something of value to offer why don't you go bother somebody else.

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    @Skymasters0n

    Sounds like all you wanna do is argue. Unless you have something of value to offer why don't you go bother somebody else.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2024 - 6:46 PM ET #32

    There is no argument.  An AD went out onto the field in the middle of a play to argue a call and then doubled down in his press conference.  Thats terrible even if the officials got the call wrong.  But on a call that the officials actually got right?  Its mind boggling anyone is defending this guy.

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    There is no argument.  An AD went out onto the field in the middle of a play to argue a call and then doubled down in his press conference.  Thats terrible even if the officials got the call wrong.  But on a call that the officials actually got right?  Its mind boggling anyone is defending this guy.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2024 - 4:46 PM ET #33

    Exquisite work.

    People rarely do that which is not expected of them.
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    Exquisite work.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2024 - 5:52 PM ET #34

    Week 12 update:

    Friday 

    UTSA (-1', flipped from +2) vs North Texas - Pretty big line move here. Still a no play, but the slightest of leans to the Mean Green. 

    ARIZONA (-1') vs Houston - Since Zeon Chriss took the reins at QB the Cougars have won and covered three of their last four. They have the better defense, especially with Arizona's injury issues at linebacker and in the secondary. Wildcats have given up 507 yards rushing in their last two games (6.0 YPR). I'm liking Houston a lot in this one.

    Saturday early games 

    Tulane (-7) at NAVY - Not gonna bet it, but I know I don't wanna step in front of the Green (tidal) Wave right now. 

    Clemson (-13, up from 10') at PITTSBURGH - Line move suggests Eli Holstein isn't playing.

    Texas (-12, down from 13') at ARKANSAS - Line keeps dropping in this one. That's a lot of faith in the Hogs' swiss cheese secondary. Leaning Texas at this number.

    COLORADO (-11) vs Utah - Utes can't catch a break. Not sure how they can pick themselves up off the mat after giving it all they had against BYU. Maybe their defense can keep this one close, but I'm skeptical.

    Saturday afternoon 

    ILLINOIS (-2') Michigan St. - Still eyeballing this one. Hoping for +3 or better but not looking likely.

    Sam Houston (-18', up from -15') at KENNESAW ST. - Huge line jump from the opener at -13. Bearkats haven't even SCORED that many in their last three games. But then Hunter Watson wasn't 100% either.

    Oregon St. (-3, down from -4) at AIR FORCE - Was leaning Flyboys here, but I liked it better at +4. I'll probably leave this one alone.

    Penn St. (-29) at PURDUE - This wasn't on my initial list of potential plays and I hate taking big favs, but it feels like a five TD blowout here. James Franklin ain't above running it up and Purdue has thrown in the towel for this season. Heavy lean to Penn St. here. Boilermakers can't handle this caliber of team.

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    Week 12 update:

    Friday 

    UTSA (-1', flipped from +2) vs North Texas - Pretty big line move here. Still a no play, but the slightest of leans to the Mean Green. 

    ARIZONA (-1') vs Houston - Since Zeon Chriss took the reins at QB the Cougars have won and covered three of their last four. They have the better defense, especially with Arizona's injury issues at linebacker and in the secondary. Wildcats have given up 507 yards rushing in their last two games (6.0 YPR). I'm liking Houston a lot in this one.

    Saturday early games 

    Tulane (-7) at NAVY - Not gonna bet it, but I know I don't wanna step in front of the Green (tidal) Wave right now. 

    Clemson (-13, up from 10') at PITTSBURGH - Line move suggests Eli Holstein isn't playing.

    Texas (-12, down from 13') at ARKANSAS - Line keeps dropping in this one. That's a lot of faith in the Hogs' swiss cheese secondary. Leaning Texas at this number.

    COLORADO (-11) vs Utah - Utes can't catch a break. Not sure how they can pick themselves up off the mat after giving it all they had against BYU. Maybe their defense can keep this one close, but I'm skeptical.

    Saturday afternoon 

    ILLINOIS (-2') Michigan St. - Still eyeballing this one. Hoping for +3 or better but not looking likely.

    Sam Houston (-18', up from -15') at KENNESAW ST. - Huge line jump from the opener at -13. Bearkats haven't even SCORED that many in their last three games. But then Hunter Watson wasn't 100% either.

    Oregon St. (-3, down from -4) at AIR FORCE - Was leaning Flyboys here, but I liked it better at +4. I'll probably leave this one alone.

    Penn St. (-29) at PURDUE - This wasn't on my initial list of potential plays and I hate taking big favs, but it feels like a five TD blowout here. James Franklin ain't above running it up and Purdue has thrown in the towel for this season. Heavy lean to Penn St. here. Boilermakers can't handle this caliber of team.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2024 - 5:58 PM ET #35

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     an_cheers

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     an_cheers

     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2024 - 6:26 PM ET #36

    Am I wrong or are you  100% on favorites?

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    Am I wrong or are you  100% on favorites?

     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2024 - 7:05 PM ET #37

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    I was also eyeing Sam Houston, but when it crossed -16.5 it became too rich for my blood. But it does feel like a blowout type of game with all of the problems going on at Kennesaw St....BOL this week.

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    I was also eyeing Sam Houston, but when it crossed -16.5 it became too rich for my blood. But it does feel like a blowout type of game with all of the problems going on at Kennesaw St....BOL this week.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2024 - 7:09 PM ET #38

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     Oh no, I'm usually a dog bettor. Of the games I just posted the only games I'm considering playing are in bold type. I'm actually gonna lay off Houston tonight. Still leaning that way, but there's no value in the line.

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    @bitty11

     Oh no, I'm usually a dog bettor. Of the games I just posted the only games I'm considering playing are in bold type. I'm actually gonna lay off Houston tonight. Still leaning that way, but there's no value in the line.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2024 - 8:42 PM ET #39

     I just wanted to let you know how much I appreciate your write-ups and what you do. I hope you hit everything you are on ( A fella can dream, right?) Good luck, and keep the info coming when you can.an_cheers. 

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     I just wanted to let you know how much I appreciate your write-ups and what you do. I hope you hit everything you are on ( A fella can dream, right?) Good luck, and keep the info coming when you can.an_cheers. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2024 - 10:44 PM ET #40

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     BOL to you too Doc! an_cheers

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     BOL to you too Doc! an_cheers

     
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2024 - 2:09 AM ET #41

    Saturday afternoon and evening 

    James Madison (-2', down from -3) at OLD DOMINION - I don't get this line. Haven't seen or heard of any injuries with JMU. I know they've lost their last two road games as heavy chalk, but this line seems way short to me. Big lean to James Madison for now.

    GEORGIA ST. (-3, up from -2') vs Arkansas St. - I don't get this one either. Arky St. should have all the motivation in this one since they'd be bowl eligible with a win. Panthers have nothing to play for and have only covered the spread once this year. Gotta like Arkansas St. in this one.

    KANSAS ST. (-7', down from -9) vs Arizona St. - Wildcats lost one they probably should've won (92 more yards) and the Sun Devils won one they probably should've lost (outgained by 146). Based on those upside down results from last week, I like Kansas St.

    GEORGIA (-9 down from -10') vs Tennessee - Vols QB Nico Lamaleava has been cleared to play which explains the line drop. This isn't the same Georgia team we're used to seeing. They can't run the ball consistently and Carson Beck has thrown nine picks in their last four games. The Vols haven't given up more than 19 points all year. I'm liking Tennessee here. An outright win wouldn't be shocking.

    Oregon (-13', down from -14) at WISCONSIN - Badgers haven't been up to the task against quality opponents, and the Ducks are a quality opponent. They've won every Big Ten game by at least 21 points (except for Ohio St.), and they're not opposed to running up the score. Gotta like Oregon here.

    Washington St. (-11, down from -13) at New Mexico - I liked the Lobos initially, but I don't like the line drop. Both teams can run the ball and neither team can stop it. If New Mexico can avoid turnovers they have a shot, but that's no guarantee.

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    Saturday afternoon and evening 

    James Madison (-2', down from -3) at OLD DOMINION - I don't get this line. Haven't seen or heard of any injuries with JMU. I know they've lost their last two road games as heavy chalk, but this line seems way short to me. Big lean to James Madison for now.

    GEORGIA ST. (-3, up from -2') vs Arkansas St. - I don't get this one either. Arky St. should have all the motivation in this one since they'd be bowl eligible with a win. Panthers have nothing to play for and have only covered the spread once this year. Gotta like Arkansas St. in this one.

    KANSAS ST. (-7', down from -9) vs Arizona St. - Wildcats lost one they probably should've won (92 more yards) and the Sun Devils won one they probably should've lost (outgained by 146). Based on those upside down results from last week, I like Kansas St.

    GEORGIA (-9 down from -10') vs Tennessee - Vols QB Nico Lamaleava has been cleared to play which explains the line drop. This isn't the same Georgia team we're used to seeing. They can't run the ball consistently and Carson Beck has thrown nine picks in their last four games. The Vols haven't given up more than 19 points all year. I'm liking Tennessee here. An outright win wouldn't be shocking.

    Oregon (-13', down from -14) at WISCONSIN - Badgers haven't been up to the task against quality opponents, and the Ducks are a quality opponent. They've won every Big Ten game by at least 21 points (except for Ohio St.), and they're not opposed to running up the score. Gotta like Oregon here.

    Washington St. (-11, down from -13) at New Mexico - I liked the Lobos initially, but I don't like the line drop. Both teams can run the ball and neither team can stop it. If New Mexico can avoid turnovers they have a shot, but that's no guarantee.

     
    jpitty
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2024 - 6:37 AM ET #42

    @Boisestateand8

     I definitely appreciate your write ups. Thanks for taking the time. 

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    @Boisestateand8

     I definitely appreciate your write ups. Thanks for taking the time. 

     
    umgmu
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2024 - 7:31 AM ET #43

    Thanks for all of your write ups Boise

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    Thanks for all of your write ups Boise

     
     
    Boisestateand8
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    Posted: Nov. 16, 2024 - 10:36 AM ET #44

    @jpitty

     peace_5

    @umgmu

     peace_5

    Thanks guys! Opinions are always welcome. A couple of respected cappers had me rethinking my Houston lean last night. Thank God. BOL today! an_cheers

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    @jpitty

     peace_5

    @umgmu

     peace_5

    Thanks guys! Opinions are always welcome. A couple of respected cappers had me rethinking my Houston lean last night. Thank God. BOL today! an_cheers

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