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I won't say how I know, but I do know that every year, and after every game that Hawaii does NOT cover the spread, the HPD and FBI receives calls that their is point shaving.
From what I hear, this goes on for almost every football program. (a team doesn't cover, the police get calls)
I also knew of this investigation weeks ago, and I also know a lot of details that were getting preposterous. The rumors were just getting plain outlandish.
I know many players on a very close level, and in fact know exactly where they are on their days off.
Of the main players I know, I would say no way in the world this is true. I cannot vouch for fringe players.
Someone needs to say, "Ummmmm, Hawaii has the most injured starters on offense in the NATION. Of course they will fucking struggle!"
Maybe so, but sorry it was obvious that Hawaii was shaving points this year, people called me crazy when I said those game where being fixed and everyone on that island was getting rich.
The only difference with this years called to the FBI and Police is that they were made by players on the team that were not in on the fix ... OH SNAP BUSTED!!!
I know many players on a very close level, and in fact know exactly where they are on their days off.
Of the main players I know, I would say no way in the world this is true. I cannot vouch for fringe players.
you must not know Muniz then cause he was most certainly in on the fix and dont be suprise when this is set and done if he aint in handcuffs and facing some serious federal chargers ....
I agree that there has been some shady play from Hawai'i,but I don't get all of the references to the UNLV game.
If you were Hawai'i and needed to win by no more than 16 to "not cover", why on earth would you go ahead and just take a 20 point beating?
Hawai'i could have scored 5 more touchdowns and still been under the number. There are alot of distractions in Las Vegas maybe that had something to do with it. I am not claiming to be right on this issue, I'm just curious to hear some other people's perspective on why Hawai'i would intentionally tank it so badly. 
Hawaii tanked the UNLV game. Check the moneyline hostory. Hawaii has a huge gambling problem in that state. I used to live in Hawaii and could find a bookie any block you walk. am sure their QB had to have been in on it. meth and gambling run rampant in Hawaii. Don't mess with those filps.
I agree that there has been some shady play from Hawai'i,but I don't get all of the references to the UNLV game.
If you were Hawai'i and needed to win by no more than 16 to "not cover", why on earth would you go ahead and just take a 20 point beating? Hawai'i could have scored 5 more touchdowns and still been under the number. There are alot of distractions in Las Vegas maybe that had something to do with it. I am not claiming to be right on this issue, I'm just curious to hear some other people's perspective on why Hawai'i would intentionally tank it so badly.
because of the ml line bets and also alt line bets there is alot of money to be made 
The word is players on the team called the FBI this time, can you explain that one if its true.
this is nonsense. hawaii just sucks, plain & simple. why can't anyone accept how bad they suck this year.
in that san jose state game, which i watched, there was a point in the game that hawaii could have kicked a gimmee FG. retard coach goes for it on 4th down & fails. The special team failures cost them that game.
utah state. you would need not only moniz shitting the bed, but the defense.
put these 2 games together & you have terrible coaching, terrible offense, terrible defense & terrible special teams. AKA the entire team would have to be in on the fix. even in legit point shaving, the scam is limited to a key player or 2. not a whole fucking team full of terrible players that cant even kick a field goal.
this story would have legs if vegas reported odd gambling activity. short of that, the story is nothing more then hawaii sucks.
this is nonsense. hawaii just sucks, plain & simple. why can't anyone accept how bad they suck this year.
in that san jose state game, which i watched, there was a point in the game that hawaii could have kicked a gimmee FG. retard coach goes for it on 4th down & fails. The special team failures cost them that game.
utah state. you would need not only moniz shitting the bed, but the defense.
put these 2 games together & you have terrible coaching, terrible offense, terrible defense & terrible special teams. AKA the entire team would have to be in on the fix. even in legit point shaving, the scam is limited to a key player or 2. not a whole fucking team full of terrible players that cant even kick a field goal.
this story would have legs if vegas reported odd gambling activity. short of that, the story is nothing more then hawaii sucks.
don't be so naive my friend...
because of the ml line bets and also alt line bets there is alot of money to be made
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I hadn't considered the moneyline aspect,however don't these guys have any pride to at least make a semi-respectable showing? On second thought I guess anyone that would intentionally sell out his teamates probably doesn't have any self pride.
this story would have legs if vegas reported odd gambling activity. short of that, the story is nothing more then hawaii sucks.
you must not be paying attention to the story, there was alot of odd wagering in 3 game, esp Unlv game had odd ML wagering in Vegas.
https://www.staradvertiser.com/news/b...l?id=134363713
I won't say how I know, but I do know that every year, and after every game that Hawaii does NOT cover the spread, the HPD and FBI receives calls that their is point shaving.
From what I hear, this goes on for almost every football program. (a team doesn't cover, the police get calls)
I also knew of this investigation weeks ago, and I also know a lot of details that were getting preposterous. The rumors were just getting plain outlandish.
I know many players on a very close level, and in fact know exactly where they are on their days off.
Of the main players I know, I would say no way in the world this is true. I cannot vouch for fringe players.
Someone needs to say, "Ummmmm, Hawaii has the most injured starters on offense in the NATION. Of course they will fucking struggle!"
ok you say what you want ... I know what I saw and the action on the ml bets in vegas speaks for itself. A game that open at +1600 and closed at +700 .... Unlv got so much ML action the line moved that much ... things that makes you go mmmmm ... Why the hell would anyone bet ML on Unlv plus Moniz was giving the ball away go back and watch the game dude .. you stop .... as far as the SJSU game they tried there best to give that game away and be down 20 at the half but its not there fault SJSU is horrible and everytime Moniz throw a horrible pick that my mother wont throw .. SJSU would just turn the ball back over ... please we will see but I bet you someone will be getting arrested and federal charges are coming
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