Hahaaaa my dude thanks for the intro yer too kind ..
yep ASU .. started from the bottom and now we're here .. they look good and sound good .. yeah true but critical the media knows yer name and yep Sam Levitt went 'household' this off season and he's 20-1 heisman now .. would be great if he punched a trip to NY .. esp w 3 of my dogs in there too to make the hedge all the more fun lol we'll see .. But yeah ASU sets the bar for this conf really high with the epic finish / massive ret pro, buttoned up the iffy areas hopefully, gaggle of RB's and a few other guys that can catch the ball .. fg kicker was horrific .. need some QB pressure guys .. they improve there and its a real dangerous group ..
We'll see how we do this year on the RSW's I tend to sour on a few of em around this time but honestly kinda still like em all .. doubled down on Tennessee yesterday U8.5 at -130 with fans melting down over all the camp issues, they could pull it together but think very possible they're set up to crater at some pt and start focus on next year play young QB's and the really young guys .. 9 wins for them even w schedule that seems they can make it, think its incredibly tough to string it together .. No surprise that NOBODY likes tulsa lol .. fine ... glad we got in at 2.5 not 3.5 .. NU, ARMY, UAB not alot of room for error there they could shake out the wrong way but still like em .. that's about it for concerns feels pretty good .. SDSU better not be F'in around this year lol ..
Good luck this year my dude ... GO DEVILS!!!
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Hahaaaa my dude thanks for the intro yer too kind ..
yep ASU .. started from the bottom and now we're here .. they look good and sound good .. yeah true but critical the media knows yer name and yep Sam Levitt went 'household' this off season and he's 20-1 heisman now .. would be great if he punched a trip to NY .. esp w 3 of my dogs in there too to make the hedge all the more fun lol we'll see .. But yeah ASU sets the bar for this conf really high with the epic finish / massive ret pro, buttoned up the iffy areas hopefully, gaggle of RB's and a few other guys that can catch the ball .. fg kicker was horrific .. need some QB pressure guys .. they improve there and its a real dangerous group ..
We'll see how we do this year on the RSW's I tend to sour on a few of em around this time but honestly kinda still like em all .. doubled down on Tennessee yesterday U8.5 at -130 with fans melting down over all the camp issues, they could pull it together but think very possible they're set up to crater at some pt and start focus on next year play young QB's and the really young guys .. 9 wins for them even w schedule that seems they can make it, think its incredibly tough to string it together .. No surprise that NOBODY likes tulsa lol .. fine ... glad we got in at 2.5 not 3.5 .. NU, ARMY, UAB not alot of room for error there they could shake out the wrong way but still like em .. that's about it for concerns feels pretty good .. SDSU better not be F'in around this year lol ..
Which QB .. ?.. was on my radar if the idaho kid doesn't play could be trouble .. injured in spring ..
I had their safety group as maybe a surprise but their DL was like maybe one guy 300+ and gets small quick .. maybe that changed .. but if that's still the case and offense can't push them around up front then whole team sounds like MAJOR TROUBLE ..
Man o man uni if Mich d!cks around w these guys .. it better be over in 5 minutes or yer whole season is done .. yer QB is gunna hit the portal mid september!!! lol
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Which QB .. ?.. was on my radar if the idaho kid doesn't play could be trouble .. injured in spring ..
I had their safety group as maybe a surprise but their DL was like maybe one guy 300+ and gets small quick .. maybe that changed .. but if that's still the case and offense can't push them around up front then whole team sounds like MAJOR TROUBLE ..
Man o man uni if Mich d!cks around w these guys .. it better be over in 5 minutes or yer whole season is done .. yer QB is gunna hit the portal mid september!!! lol
@UNIMAN Which QB .. ?.. was on my radar if the idaho kid doesn't play could be trouble .. injured in spring .. I had their safety group as maybe a surprise but their DL was like maybe one guy 300+ and gets small quick .. maybe that changed .. but if that's still the case and offense can't push them around up front then whole team sounds like MAJOR TROUBLE .. Man o man uni if Mich d!cks around w these guys .. it better be over in 5 minutes or yer whole season is done .. yer QB is gunna hit the portal mid september!!! lol
Yeah, Layne played and it's a two-man race for qb between Laubstein and Layne. Three wr's were out including expected wr#1 Keagan Johnson.
I have issues with Michigan (always do). They gave transfer wr McCulley jr the #1 jersey and are hyping him up as the next 1000 yd receiver. Have my doubts. After spring ball in 2024 Cignetti commented that McCulley had things to work on. And then he lasted one game for Cignetti.
Mich WR coach Bellamy on McCulley; Man, I'll tell you what: His work ethic is second to none. He loves working. He's the first one out there, last one out there. A reserved guy, doesn't say much, but he shows up in the run game, loves to block, pass game. He's right now, refining his toolset. Making sure the top of the route is clean. Ball skills are pretty elite. He's doing the things that we were asking him to do., and he's doing good things.
I don't know, just get a glass half-empty feeling on this guy. Refining his toolset? Shows up in run game? Ok, that's good but would rather hear has speed, fantastic route runner, makes great catches.
There are several other wr's who should be ok.
All the talk is Lindsey will open up the offense but I suspect it will be more ball control and leaning on the D in big games. But with games like New Mexico and Central Michigan you gotta think they'll give Underwood every chance to shine bright cause the portal is always waiting for the unhappy.
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@UNIMAN Which QB .. ?.. was on my radar if the idaho kid doesn't play could be trouble .. injured in spring .. I had their safety group as maybe a surprise but their DL was like maybe one guy 300+ and gets small quick .. maybe that changed .. but if that's still the case and offense can't push them around up front then whole team sounds like MAJOR TROUBLE .. Man o man uni if Mich d!cks around w these guys .. it better be over in 5 minutes or yer whole season is done .. yer QB is gunna hit the portal mid september!!! lol
Yeah, Layne played and it's a two-man race for qb between Laubstein and Layne. Three wr's were out including expected wr#1 Keagan Johnson.
I have issues with Michigan (always do). They gave transfer wr McCulley jr the #1 jersey and are hyping him up as the next 1000 yd receiver. Have my doubts. After spring ball in 2024 Cignetti commented that McCulley had things to work on. And then he lasted one game for Cignetti.
Mich WR coach Bellamy on McCulley; Man, I'll tell you what: His work ethic is second to none. He loves working. He's the first one out there, last one out there. A reserved guy, doesn't say much, but he shows up in the run game, loves to block, pass game. He's right now, refining his toolset. Making sure the top of the route is clean. Ball skills are pretty elite. He's doing the things that we were asking him to do., and he's doing good things.
I don't know, just get a glass half-empty feeling on this guy. Refining his toolset? Shows up in run game? Ok, that's good but would rather hear has speed, fantastic route runner, makes great catches.
There are several other wr's who should be ok.
All the talk is Lindsey will open up the offense but I suspect it will be more ball control and leaning on the D in big games. But with games like New Mexico and Central Michigan you gotta think they'll give Underwood every chance to shine bright cause the portal is always waiting for the unhappy.
Haha yeah "best teammate you could ask for.. he's learned so much, even helpful teaching the new guys .. tools are much sharper now he's a huge key to our run game" hahaaaa! .. yeah sorry Uni but yer gunna have to wait till next year to have a real receiver ..
I mean cmon Uni .. Indy took him on as kindof a joke at first .. needed an extra practice dummy last year but they've since filled up the unit with legit deep threats and other stars they pulled out of thin air so just no room for a guy like that on a champ caliber roster .. but he's a great fit at michigan leading receiver easily should get 3 maybe 350 receiving yards this year.. no shame .. gotta start somewhere .. bahaha jk buddy jk ..
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Haha yeah "best teammate you could ask for.. he's learned so much, even helpful teaching the new guys .. tools are much sharper now he's a huge key to our run game" hahaaaa! .. yeah sorry Uni but yer gunna have to wait till next year to have a real receiver ..
I mean cmon Uni .. Indy took him on as kindof a joke at first .. needed an extra practice dummy last year but they've since filled up the unit with legit deep threats and other stars they pulled out of thin air so just no room for a guy like that on a champ caliber roster .. but he's a great fit at michigan leading receiver easily should get 3 maybe 350 receiving yards this year.. no shame .. gotta start somewhere .. bahaha jk buddy jk ..
Ha dude im messin w you got carried away when I was doing the quotes thing ... I don't have any real insight into their sitch so far we saw em in the spring QB true fr qb struggles vs top D smothering playing their hardest like im expecting alot better come september ..
As for OSU you know how I feel.. might be okay but nothing extra special and being #1 at SP and #1 odds on natty puts them on my hit list .. I'd do a massive fade-o-rama on them but not enough books doing enough games of the year this yr and most won't let you string em together .. MGM only spot I know that will let us do it and has GOY's going .. Tenn is my main fade but got this one too .. would do ML on PSU too but not allowed .. anyway .. let's go stranglin ..
BUCKEYE STRANGLER - GOY FADE
TEXAS ML, PENN ST+4.5, MICH ML 9.6-1 (MGM)
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Ha dude im messin w you got carried away when I was doing the quotes thing ... I don't have any real insight into their sitch so far we saw em in the spring QB true fr qb struggles vs top D smothering playing their hardest like im expecting alot better come september ..
As for OSU you know how I feel.. might be okay but nothing extra special and being #1 at SP and #1 odds on natty puts them on my hit list .. I'd do a massive fade-o-rama on them but not enough books doing enough games of the year this yr and most won't let you string em together .. MGM only spot I know that will let us do it and has GOY's going .. Tenn is my main fade but got this one too .. would do ML on PSU too but not allowed .. anyway .. let's go stranglin ..
@UNIMAN Ha dude im messin w you got carried away when I was doing the quotes thing ... I don't have any real insight into their sitch so far we saw em in the spring QB true fr qb struggles vs top D smothering playing their hardest like im expecting alot better come september .. As for OSU you know how I feel.. might be okay but nothing extra special and being #1 at SP and #1 odds on natty puts them on my hit list .. I'd do a massive fade-o-rama on them but not enough books doing enough games of the year this yr and most won't let you string em together .. MGM only spot I know that will let us do it and has GOY's going .. Tenn is my main fade but got this one too .. would do ML on PSU too but not allowed .. anyway .. let's go stranglin .. BUCKEYE STRANGLER - GOY FADE TEXAS ML, PENN ST+4.5, MICH ML 9.6-1 (MGM)
Yeah, see DK won't let you string them.
Not so sure on Buc's. Sayin looks to have a high ceiling yet very green starting out. See the buc's added Josh Boyer to the defensive staff. Thinking they'll be leaning on that D for awhile.
If Underwood gets hurt wolv offense is done with Keene slow to get healthy. He has legs but I imagine they won't use them unless absolutely have to.
Seeing Texas at the Shoe as a tossup, going with under and maybe a small insurance play on OT.
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@UNIMAN Ha dude im messin w you got carried away when I was doing the quotes thing ... I don't have any real insight into their sitch so far we saw em in the spring QB true fr qb struggles vs top D smothering playing their hardest like im expecting alot better come september .. As for OSU you know how I feel.. might be okay but nothing extra special and being #1 at SP and #1 odds on natty puts them on my hit list .. I'd do a massive fade-o-rama on them but not enough books doing enough games of the year this yr and most won't let you string em together .. MGM only spot I know that will let us do it and has GOY's going .. Tenn is my main fade but got this one too .. would do ML on PSU too but not allowed .. anyway .. let's go stranglin .. BUCKEYE STRANGLER - GOY FADE TEXAS ML, PENN ST+4.5, MICH ML 9.6-1 (MGM)
Yeah, see DK won't let you string them.
Not so sure on Buc's. Sayin looks to have a high ceiling yet very green starting out. See the buc's added Josh Boyer to the defensive staff. Thinking they'll be leaning on that D for awhile.
If Underwood gets hurt wolv offense is done with Keene slow to get healthy. He has legs but I imagine they won't use them unless absolutely have to.
Seeing Texas at the Shoe as a tossup, going with under and maybe a small insurance play on OT.
K.State has won 16 in a row in this series 8 in a row on the road and while recently Kansas has covered a few of these games finally the wins have eluded them .. I think the Jayhawks are a little overrated coming into this year they lost a ton on both sides of the ball and the really good OC went to Penn St last year .. Leipold's long time DC left Brian Borland retired after last year .. lot of defensive firepoower out the door is what I noticed .. on offense they had a good group of playmaking WR's now gone .. the top 2 maybe 3 are in the not bad category but depth is a major issue and just from what I'm reading in their fall camp this is more less the story for much of the team .. Hishaw and Leshaon Williams the 2 RBs are a credible tandem and we like Daniels at QB but real bad passing early in the year put KU in a bad spot early and think we could see more of the struggling version of this team than the one that picked themselves up late in the year .. and real prob for KU if the QB has his lingering injury issues come back .. not a total rebuild but not ideal roster situation .. I got a look over Kansas State not as sure how their camp is going but the roster looks pretty good and their QB had his injury last year should be a pretty fun rush offense with him healthy and other parts looked ready to compete for a B12 title again .. KU overrated and think K-State gets em again and taking the short line smaller .. good luck!
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KANSAS / KANS ST -3.5 WK9 (ESPN)
K.State has won 16 in a row in this series 8 in a row on the road and while recently Kansas has covered a few of these games finally the wins have eluded them .. I think the Jayhawks are a little overrated coming into this year they lost a ton on both sides of the ball and the really good OC went to Penn St last year .. Leipold's long time DC left Brian Borland retired after last year .. lot of defensive firepoower out the door is what I noticed .. on offense they had a good group of playmaking WR's now gone .. the top 2 maybe 3 are in the not bad category but depth is a major issue and just from what I'm reading in their fall camp this is more less the story for much of the team .. Hishaw and Leshaon Williams the 2 RBs are a credible tandem and we like Daniels at QB but real bad passing early in the year put KU in a bad spot early and think we could see more of the struggling version of this team than the one that picked themselves up late in the year .. and real prob for KU if the QB has his lingering injury issues come back .. not a total rebuild but not ideal roster situation .. I got a look over Kansas State not as sure how their camp is going but the roster looks pretty good and their QB had his injury last year should be a pretty fun rush offense with him healthy and other parts looked ready to compete for a B12 title again .. KU overrated and think K-State gets em again and taking the short line smaller .. good luck!
Think D's rule in this one .. there's a chance Florida's WR's are just that good and things can get a little wild going tit for tat vs Arch .. But the run games for both are very strong and while we think of Sark as a throwing coach he brings the run game in all his big games .. Billy well known for his run heavy and very slow burn offense taking their time to snap the ball .. both teams are also LOADED in the box and beyond.. maybe edge to UT here but Texas will want to be real careful on the road vs this bunch and think good chance if they get a lead they try to just sit on this one .. not one I'd predict to deliver above average scoring .. good luck!
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TEXAS / FLORIDA UNDER 53.5 WK6 (FAN)
Think D's rule in this one .. there's a chance Florida's WR's are just that good and things can get a little wild going tit for tat vs Arch .. But the run games for both are very strong and while we think of Sark as a throwing coach he brings the run game in all his big games .. Billy well known for his run heavy and very slow burn offense taking their time to snap the ball .. both teams are also LOADED in the box and beyond.. maybe edge to UT here but Texas will want to be real careful on the road vs this bunch and think good chance if they get a lead they try to just sit on this one .. not one I'd predict to deliver above average scoring .. good luck!
Here's one you really can't put low enough .. I like Iowa getting a QB like Gronowski but we've seen him play vs Iowa while at SDSU and while you can't say its all apples to apples we didn't see anything close to producing points from the high powered SDSU offense that eventually mopped the floor with all of FCS layed the wood on NDSU in the natty that year .. Iowa might be changing some things up with the offensive coaching too but reputation among receivers is that of a career killer I don't think they'll be taking many good shots down field vs this PSU D .. I expect their drives to be painfully slow with first downs picked by Gronowski on the ground and otherwise by their run game .. which took a massive hit with the good RB going pro .. I don't expect the new guy to pick up where he left off .. There is a risk PSU's new WR unit is likely much improved and they won't be fumbling games away with ZERO WR receptions this year .. that said this is a really nasty road game in Ames and Iowa's D sounds like another classic again this year .. field goals and field position very much worth angling for in this one .. think offenses can put up a score like 20-9 with plenty of room for a couple defensive scores .... suspect total by kickoff close to breaking into the 30's .. good luck!
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PENN STATE / IOWA UNDER 45.5 WK8
Here's one you really can't put low enough .. I like Iowa getting a QB like Gronowski but we've seen him play vs Iowa while at SDSU and while you can't say its all apples to apples we didn't see anything close to producing points from the high powered SDSU offense that eventually mopped the floor with all of FCS layed the wood on NDSU in the natty that year .. Iowa might be changing some things up with the offensive coaching too but reputation among receivers is that of a career killer I don't think they'll be taking many good shots down field vs this PSU D .. I expect their drives to be painfully slow with first downs picked by Gronowski on the ground and otherwise by their run game .. which took a massive hit with the good RB going pro .. I don't expect the new guy to pick up where he left off .. There is a risk PSU's new WR unit is likely much improved and they won't be fumbling games away with ZERO WR receptions this year .. that said this is a really nasty road game in Ames and Iowa's D sounds like another classic again this year .. field goals and field position very much worth angling for in this one .. think offenses can put up a score like 20-9 with plenty of room for a couple defensive scores .... suspect total by kickoff close to breaking into the 30's .. good luck!
SMALLER PENN STATE / IOWA UNDER 45.5 WK8 Here's one you really can't put low enough .. I like Iowa getting a QB like Gronowski but we've seen him play vs Iowa while at SDSU and while you can't say its all apples to apples we didn't see anything close to producing points from the high powered SDSU offense that eventually mopped the floor with all of FCS layed the wood on NDSU in the natty that year .. Iowa might be changing some things up with the offensive coaching too but reputation among receivers is that of a career killer I don't think they'll be taking many good shots down field vs this PSU D .. I expect their drives to be painfully slow with first downs picked by Gronowski on the ground and otherwise by their run game .. which took a massive hit with the good RB going pro .. I don't expect the new guy to pick up where he left off .. There is a risk PSU's new WR unit is likely much improved and they won't be fumbling games away with ZERO WR receptions this year .. that said this is a really nasty road game in Ames and Iowa's D sounds like another classic again this year .. field goals and field position very much worth angling for in this one .. think offenses can put up a score like 20-9 with plenty of room for a couple defensive scores .... suspect total by kickoff close to breaking into the 30's .. good luck!
Looks damn good!!
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SMALLER PENN STATE / IOWA UNDER 45.5 WK8 Here's one you really can't put low enough .. I like Iowa getting a QB like Gronowski but we've seen him play vs Iowa while at SDSU and while you can't say its all apples to apples we didn't see anything close to producing points from the high powered SDSU offense that eventually mopped the floor with all of FCS layed the wood on NDSU in the natty that year .. Iowa might be changing some things up with the offensive coaching too but reputation among receivers is that of a career killer I don't think they'll be taking many good shots down field vs this PSU D .. I expect their drives to be painfully slow with first downs picked by Gronowski on the ground and otherwise by their run game .. which took a massive hit with the good RB going pro .. I don't expect the new guy to pick up where he left off .. There is a risk PSU's new WR unit is likely much improved and they won't be fumbling games away with ZERO WR receptions this year .. that said this is a really nasty road game in Ames and Iowa's D sounds like another classic again this year .. field goals and field position very much worth angling for in this one .. think offenses can put up a score like 20-9 with plenty of room for a couple defensive scores .... suspect total by kickoff close to breaking into the 30's .. good luck!
Yeah buddy I mean I'm not big on hittin 45.5 GOY unders and there's a risk Penn State's offense could be a total game wrecker and make this a problem maybe we don't get total moving down pre-kick .. but still might also need Iowa's D to pitch some shock surprise turds this year .. if so then yeah its maybe trouble .. but even if so and we don't get total movement I'd still have no confidence Iowa's offense is gunna do much and a PSU blowout W would still give us a shot to cash an under ..
Anyway GOY's prompt me to look things up so here's what we have ... Last 10 yrs we see Iowa at home vs the conf big boys .. going under a hypo total of 45.5 woulda gone 12-5.. vs Wisco 4-2 .. PSU 3-0 .. Minny 3-2 ..Mich 2-0 .. OSU 0-1 the 55-24 point banger lol ... For all Iowa home conf games no final score has totaled over over 56 since 2020 .. and post covid we're seeing 45.5 is the highest total books have offered on any Iowa home conf gm .. that was vs Indy in '21 it went under never offered it that high again lol .. Outta those 18 games the avg total pre kick was like 38ish so some reason to expect Iowa in general to give us a lower total than 45.5 by kickoff .. flip side Penn State L2Y as their D improved we have road conf gms vs decent conf defense opponents a total under 45.5 woulda neen 4-1 vs the better defenses Ill, OSU, Mich St, Wisco, Minny .. Books put all those PSU totals mid 40's .. I suspect Knowles will have this D looking very stingy so thinking it thru I'd expect PSU totals are more likely to trend lower this year esp when we get this sorta road spot vs 2 big D's goin at it .. But most importantly ... it just feels like a sure shot lock down under and if we don't love it come kickoff prob good chance we can get out of it w out much trouble .. or find a decent middle ground ... if it goes higher what could it possibly get to?.. think maybe 50 if we get some wacky surprise circumstances .. even if it did hard to imagine we'd ever really be dead showing up to this one ..
Good luck UNI!
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Yeah buddy I mean I'm not big on hittin 45.5 GOY unders and there's a risk Penn State's offense could be a total game wrecker and make this a problem maybe we don't get total moving down pre-kick .. but still might also need Iowa's D to pitch some shock surprise turds this year .. if so then yeah its maybe trouble .. but even if so and we don't get total movement I'd still have no confidence Iowa's offense is gunna do much and a PSU blowout W would still give us a shot to cash an under ..
Anyway GOY's prompt me to look things up so here's what we have ... Last 10 yrs we see Iowa at home vs the conf big boys .. going under a hypo total of 45.5 woulda gone 12-5.. vs Wisco 4-2 .. PSU 3-0 .. Minny 3-2 ..Mich 2-0 .. OSU 0-1 the 55-24 point banger lol ... For all Iowa home conf games no final score has totaled over over 56 since 2020 .. and post covid we're seeing 45.5 is the highest total books have offered on any Iowa home conf gm .. that was vs Indy in '21 it went under never offered it that high again lol .. Outta those 18 games the avg total pre kick was like 38ish so some reason to expect Iowa in general to give us a lower total than 45.5 by kickoff .. flip side Penn State L2Y as their D improved we have road conf gms vs decent conf defense opponents a total under 45.5 woulda neen 4-1 vs the better defenses Ill, OSU, Mich St, Wisco, Minny .. Books put all those PSU totals mid 40's .. I suspect Knowles will have this D looking very stingy so thinking it thru I'd expect PSU totals are more likely to trend lower this year esp when we get this sorta road spot vs 2 big D's goin at it .. But most importantly ... it just feels like a sure shot lock down under and if we don't love it come kickoff prob good chance we can get out of it w out much trouble .. or find a decent middle ground ... if it goes higher what could it possibly get to?.. think maybe 50 if we get some wacky surprise circumstances .. even if it did hard to imagine we'd ever really be dead showing up to this one ..
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