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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2015 - 9:29 PM ET #26

    Hey BA. thx for the picks! Like OM too, tough call at 7 for me more because I haven't given the OkieStaties many looks this year. I will offer up that OM's O looked much better after Tunsil returned against A&M week 7, plus the run this year is carrying some drives they would have stalled LY. And that D is just knock down, drag em out. I realize Okies put up a few points against Bay just passing (8 yds rushing ahhhh) but can't be a one trick pony w OM... ask A&M what happens when you have a bad run day against these guys! BOL w the bowl season!!!
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    Hey BA. thx for the picks! Like OM too, tough call at 7 for me more because I haven't given the OkieStaties many looks this year. I will offer up that OM's O looked much better after Tunsil returned against A&M week 7, plus the run this year is carrying some drives they would have stalled LY. And that D is just knock down, drag em out. I realize Okies put up a few points against Bay just passing (8 yds rushing ahhhh) but can't be a one trick pony w OM... ask A&M what happens when you have a bad run day against these guys! BOL w the bowl season!!!
     
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    RESOURCES:


      *https://www.sbnation.com/college-football
       https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2015/12/9/9878870/2015-college-football-bowl-previews-advanced-stats
       https://www.donbest.com/ncaaf/matchups-classic/;;;
       https://www.cfbstats.com/2014/national/index.html
       https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/fei
       https://www.teamrankings.com/ncf/stats/
       https://www.donbest.com/ncaaf/injuries/\
       https://www.vegasinsider.com/college-football/
       https://espn.go.com/college-football/bowls
       https://footballscoop.com/the-scoop/
       https://coachingsearch.com/

    Bowl Guides
      *Gold Sheet (weekly)  https://www.goldsheet.com/product.php
      *Northcoast  https://www.ncsports.com/index.html
      *Marc Lawrence    https://www.ipsports.net/ecps/ecapper_store/product_info.php?PRODUCT_ID=300650&SITE_ID=0





    RECENT BOWL HISTORY


    Last 5 years.....
     *SU winner is 158-18 ATS  (90% of games winner covers too)
     
    2014    fav 15-24 ATS...OU 23-15-1
          * dog won 21 games SU...SU winner 36-3 ATS

    2013    fav 19-16 ATS...O/U 14-21
          * dog won 13 games SU...SU winner 31-4 ATS

    2012    fav 21-14 ATS...O/U 15-20
          * dog won 10 games SU...SU winner 32-3 ATS
           
    2011    fav 18-15 ATS...O/U 14-20
          * dog won 11 games SU...SU winner 30-4 ATS

    2010    fav 20-13 ATS...O/U 17-16
          * dog won 10 games SU...SU winner 29-4 ATS




    2014   1H / 2H

    < 12/25

    1H   FAV 7-4 SU / 6-5 ATS
         O/U 6-5 ATS
      * only once in 4 games did fav come back to win game SU

    2H   FAV 6-5 SU / ATS
         O/U 6-5

    12/26 > 12/31

    1H  FAV 7-10 SU / 6-11 ATS
        O/U 11-6 ATS
     * only one time in 10 games did fav come back and win SU

    2H  FAV 10-7 SU / 8-9 ATS
        O/U 7-10 ATS  

    > 1/1

    1H  FAV 10-2 SU / 9-3 ATS
        OU 6-6 ATS
     *in 2 games fav did NOT come back to win SU

    SO...only 2X in 16 games did fav come back to win SU
      *only ONCE did fav come back to cover GAME
    It is better to be feared - than to be loved.
    Reply
    RESOURCES:


      *https://www.sbnation.com/college-football
       https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2015/12/9/9878870/2015-college-football-bowl-previews-advanced-stats
       https://www.donbest.com/ncaaf/matchups-classic/;;;
       https://www.cfbstats.com/2014/national/index.html
       https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/fei
       https://www.teamrankings.com/ncf/stats/
       https://www.donbest.com/ncaaf/injuries/\
       https://www.vegasinsider.com/college-football/
       https://espn.go.com/college-football/bowls
       https://footballscoop.com/the-scoop/
       https://coachingsearch.com/

    Bowl Guides
      *Gold Sheet (weekly)  https://www.goldsheet.com/product.php
      *Northcoast  https://www.ncsports.com/index.html
      *Marc Lawrence    https://www.ipsports.net/ecps/ecapper_store/product_info.php?PRODUCT_ID=300650&SITE_ID=0





    RECENT BOWL HISTORY


    Last 5 years.....
     *SU winner is 158-18 ATS  (90% of games winner covers too)
     
    2014    fav 15-24 ATS...OU 23-15-1
          * dog won 21 games SU...SU winner 36-3 ATS

    2013    fav 19-16 ATS...O/U 14-21
          * dog won 13 games SU...SU winner 31-4 ATS

    2012    fav 21-14 ATS...O/U 15-20
          * dog won 10 games SU...SU winner 32-3 ATS
           
    2011    fav 18-15 ATS...O/U 14-20
          * dog won 11 games SU...SU winner 30-4 ATS

    2010    fav 20-13 ATS...O/U 17-16
          * dog won 10 games SU...SU winner 29-4 ATS




    2014   1H / 2H

    < 12/25

    1H   FAV 7-4 SU / 6-5 ATS
         O/U 6-5 ATS
      * only once in 4 games did fav come back to win game SU

    2H   FAV 6-5 SU / ATS
         O/U 6-5

    12/26 > 12/31

    1H  FAV 7-10 SU / 6-11 ATS
        O/U 11-6 ATS
     * only one time in 10 games did fav come back and win SU

    2H  FAV 10-7 SU / 8-9 ATS
        O/U 7-10 ATS  

    > 1/1

    1H  FAV 10-2 SU / 9-3 ATS
        OU 6-6 ATS
     *in 2 games fav did NOT come back to win SU

    SO...only 2X in 16 games did fav come back to win SU
      *only ONCE did fav come back to cover GAME
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2015 - 12:12 PM ET #29


    REMINDER:   these are EXHIBITION games for the most part...
                  *SO...you must shift gears in your wagering style...considering many more factors than you might in the regular season...
                  *BUT....RELAX...as always the best team usually still wins...just consider the following as tools in your handicapping toolbox (there if you need it)

                    

    IDEAS


    1)  FOCUS
      *Don't think MOTIVATION / effort maybe.....think FOCUS > mostly in preparation
      *What was the goal when the season began?...don't think in terms of do they care / will they try hard
      *Is THIS where they wanted to be?....will they be FULLY focused?
         note: ignore what coaches say...as they love the bowls for the extra practices...where they can beat the helll outta the young guys (see who can play + if hurt have until fall to heal)
      *one of my favorites:  a (good) team EMBARRASSED in their bowl last year...esp. if a DOG this year
        maybe at least hesitate to back a favorite that had a huge bowl win the previous year
           $  in general lean to dogs in the early games / favorites in later (KEY) games
     

    2)  COACHES
      *some PREPARE much better than others...some know what buttons to push....and when to do so.
      *some simply do not like all the bowl BS...and treat bowls just like another spring
        eg. Bill Snyder has been the best HC to bet during the reg.season...but has only covered 5 of last 16 bowls   

    3)  CONFERENCE STRENGTH / TRENDS
      *you might have noticed EARLY conference trends often carry over to later games
      *some distinct trends (between conferences) have developed over the years
        eg.  18 of last 23 CUSA games have gone UNDER...CUSA is 9-0 SU/ ATS vs the MAC
             JUST LOVE that Big12 do ya?...they have covered 8 of last 34 January bowls (13-21 SU)...5-19 SU / 5-18-1 ATS vs that overrated SEC !
             P12 is 8-15 SU / ATS in bowls before 12/25...but 15-9 / 17-7 in Jan bowls....etc
     
    4)  COMMON OPPONENTS
      * compare their stats if they played the same team....and / or their performance vs similar teams in style of play or even power ratings    

    5)  DISTRACTIONS
      *HC...and / or assistants leaving of course the main issue ...just RUMORED to leave can cause problems as well
      *beware the heavy favorite in a crap bowl with a lotta players thinking NFL ....they might just be trying to not get hurt
      *don't ASSume a veteran team will go all out in their final game
      *a team with too many 'injuries'...and suspensions is likely to not be focused
      *award winners...esp the Heisman have historically been distractions..not lately it seems

    6)  INJURIES / SUSPENSIONS


      *probably overrated...maybe best to think of it this way...even if the effect on the games outcome is minimal... you still just want to know who is / not playing
      *keep in mind some coaches DO NOT DISCUSS / REVEAL injuries....so if practices are closed you have no idea if any key guys are hurt
      **best sources are local news...beat writers that give daily updates can be a great source to get a 'feel' for what's going on

    7)   CROWD EDGE

       Local...or regional can make a huge difference...some teams affected more than others.
       A strong crowd edge has meant (about) a 58-60% ATS in the past
         NOTE:  as with coaching changes...(recently) this has not made much difference
         *hard to find out...but some teams with limited budgets...can't afford to fly and must BUS it yikes

    7)  MATCH-UP ADVANTAGES

       *as always...a match-up edge is perhaps the most important factor in determining who wins/loses     what can team A do really well?...can  team B stop this?...and vice-versa
        *here a strong DEFENSIVE team...facing a strong OFFENSIVE team usually has the edge...especially after a long lay-off
        ** if considering a heavy favorite (maybe with seemingly few weaknesses) does their opponent have the ability to DISRUPT...what they like to do?
    It is better to be feared - than to be loved.
    Reply

    REMINDER:   these are EXHIBITION games for the most part...
                  *SO...you must shift gears in your wagering style...considering many more factors than you might in the regular season...
                  *BUT....RELAX...as always the best team usually still wins...just consider the following as tools in your handicapping toolbox (there if you need it)

                    

    IDEAS


    1)  FOCUS
      *Don't think MOTIVATION / effort maybe.....think FOCUS > mostly in preparation
      *What was the goal when the season began?...don't think in terms of do they care / will they try hard
      *Is THIS where they wanted to be?....will they be FULLY focused?
         note: ignore what coaches say...as they love the bowls for the extra practices...where they can beat the helll outta the young guys (see who can play + if hurt have until fall to heal)
      *one of my favorites:  a (good) team EMBARRASSED in their bowl last year...esp. if a DOG this year
        maybe at least hesitate to back a favorite that had a huge bowl win the previous year
           $  in general lean to dogs in the early games / favorites in later (KEY) games
     

    2)  COACHES
      *some PREPARE much better than others...some know what buttons to push....and when to do so.
      *some simply do not like all the bowl BS...and treat bowls just like another spring
        eg. Bill Snyder has been the best HC to bet during the reg.season...but has only covered 5 of last 16 bowls   

    3)  CONFERENCE STRENGTH / TRENDS
      *you might have noticed EARLY conference trends often carry over to later games
      *some distinct trends (between conferences) have developed over the years
        eg.  18 of last 23 CUSA games have gone UNDER...CUSA is 9-0 SU/ ATS vs the MAC
             JUST LOVE that Big12 do ya?...they have covered 8 of last 34 January bowls (13-21 SU)...5-19 SU / 5-18-1 ATS vs that overrated SEC !
             P12 is 8-15 SU / ATS in bowls before 12/25...but 15-9 / 17-7 in Jan bowls....etc
     
    4)  COMMON OPPONENTS
      * compare their stats if they played the same team....and / or their performance vs similar teams in style of play or even power ratings    

    5)  DISTRACTIONS
      *HC...and / or assistants leaving of course the main issue ...just RUMORED to leave can cause problems as well
      *beware the heavy favorite in a crap bowl with a lotta players thinking NFL ....they might just be trying to not get hurt
      *don't ASSume a veteran team will go all out in their final game
      *a team with too many 'injuries'...and suspensions is likely to not be focused
      *award winners...esp the Heisman have historically been distractions..not lately it seems

    6)  INJURIES / SUSPENSIONS


      *probably overrated...maybe best to think of it this way...even if the effect on the games outcome is minimal... you still just want to know who is / not playing
      *keep in mind some coaches DO NOT DISCUSS / REVEAL injuries....so if practices are closed you have no idea if any key guys are hurt
      **best sources are local news...beat writers that give daily updates can be a great source to get a 'feel' for what's going on

    7)   CROWD EDGE

       Local...or regional can make a huge difference...some teams affected more than others.
       A strong crowd edge has meant (about) a 58-60% ATS in the past
         NOTE:  as with coaching changes...(recently) this has not made much difference
         *hard to find out...but some teams with limited budgets...can't afford to fly and must BUS it yikes

    7)  MATCH-UP ADVANTAGES

       *as always...a match-up edge is perhaps the most important factor in determining who wins/loses     what can team A do really well?...can  team B stop this?...and vice-versa
        *here a strong DEFENSIVE team...facing a strong OFFENSIVE team usually has the edge...especially after a long lay-off
        ** if considering a heavy favorite (maybe with seemingly few weaknesses) does their opponent have the ability to DISRUPT...what they like to do?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 15, 2015 - 12:15 PM ET #30


    STRATEGY


    1)  JUST BET THE WINNER
      *sure easier said than done...but the winner also covers in bowls about 90% of the time
        $$  last 5 years the SU winner is 158-18 ATS
      *don't forget this when doing your bowl pick-em contests....and especially when playing DOGS
       $$$ last year the dog won OUTRIGHT 21X...   

    2)  AVOID or FADE

        * average teams that FINISHED strong.....just the opposite of what most think...often these teams revert back to their old self after a long lay-off
        *TURNOVER prone teams..the lay-off ain't gonna fix it
        *NEVER play....a 'bubble-burst' team...just move on to the next game
        * the bowl virgin...their GOAL of just making a bowl have been met...the bowl is more of a REWARD / VACATION
        *cold weather teams....with no indoor facility...tough to stay in top condition if you can't work outside
           AND...warm weather teams...playing in cold weather
        *the interim HC with no shot at the job...where most coaches are leaving...the coaches are spending all their time looking for another job (if they wait it's too late)
        *the team with the extra long lay-off....vs the team with a shorter one....esp if the former is an offensive team....the latter defensive
        *SENIOR heavy teams off a disapponting year...they often are not looking for redemption...but to chase azz and get drunk...
        * the Heisman winner...all the BS takes a ton of time away from game prep....plus everyone telling him how awesome he is...while his opponents are sick of getting asked...how do you ever plan to stop this awesome individual?
        
    3)   PLAY ON

      *** the 'good' team EMBARRASSED in last year's bowl...esp if returning to same bowl / close to home  
      ** the team that (seems to be)...on the RISE...meaning they really need a nice win to keep the MoMENTUM going  
      *the team with the better QB...
      *the team with the better D / special teams / ability to leverage the field in their favor
      *a good team that might have finished poorly.....again the opposite of what most think....the key is the strong team will emerge much improved...and now offers great value maybe
      *a senior heavy team....IF MOTIVATED...avoid if in a lesser bowl maybe....and/or in a party city...
      *the team with the interim HC...that the players want to get hired...if the guy has a real shot                 
      *the team from the tougher conference..that played a tougher schedule

    4)  FOLLOW THE LINE MOVEMENT

          *unlike the reg season (usually)...play on instead of fade...
           BECAUSE...
     ANYTIME A LINE HAS MOVED MORE THAN 4 POINTS TOWARDS A GIVEN TEAM...THAT TEAM HAS COVERED 64% OF THE TIME
              *note:  for totals about 56%....since 1992
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    STRATEGY


    1)  JUST BET THE WINNER
      *sure easier said than done...but the winner also covers in bowls about 90% of the time
        $$  last 5 years the SU winner is 158-18 ATS
      *don't forget this when doing your bowl pick-em contests....and especially when playing DOGS
       $$$ last year the dog won OUTRIGHT 21X...   

    2)  AVOID or FADE

        * average teams that FINISHED strong.....just the opposite of what most think...often these teams revert back to their old self after a long lay-off
        *TURNOVER prone teams..the lay-off ain't gonna fix it
        *NEVER play....a 'bubble-burst' team...just move on to the next game
        * the bowl virgin...their GOAL of just making a bowl have been met...the bowl is more of a REWARD / VACATION
        *cold weather teams....with no indoor facility...tough to stay in top condition if you can't work outside
           AND...warm weather teams...playing in cold weather
        *the interim HC with no shot at the job...where most coaches are leaving...the coaches are spending all their time looking for another job (if they wait it's too late)
        *the team with the extra long lay-off....vs the team with a shorter one....esp if the former is an offensive team....the latter defensive
        *SENIOR heavy teams off a disapponting year...they often are not looking for redemption...but to chase azz and get drunk...
        * the Heisman winner...all the BS takes a ton of time away from game prep....plus everyone telling him how awesome he is...while his opponents are sick of getting asked...how do you ever plan to stop this awesome individual?
        
    3)   PLAY ON

      *** the 'good' team EMBARRASSED in last year's bowl...esp if returning to same bowl / close to home  
      ** the team that (seems to be)...on the RISE...meaning they really need a nice win to keep the MoMENTUM going  
      *the team with the better QB...
      *the team with the better D / special teams / ability to leverage the field in their favor
      *a good team that might have finished poorly.....again the opposite of what most think....the key is the strong team will emerge much improved...and now offers great value maybe
      *a senior heavy team....IF MOTIVATED...avoid if in a lesser bowl maybe....and/or in a party city...
      *the team with the interim HC...that the players want to get hired...if the guy has a real shot                 
      *the team from the tougher conference..that played a tougher schedule

    4)  FOLLOW THE LINE MOVEMENT

          *unlike the reg season (usually)...play on instead of fade...
           BECAUSE...
     ANYTIME A LINE HAS MOVED MORE THAN 4 POINTS TOWARDS A GIVEN TEAM...THAT TEAM HAS COVERED 64% OF THE TIME
              *note:  for totals about 56%....since 1992
     
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    COACHING STUFF


    NOTE: the last 11 years interim HC's are 25-27 SU / 29-28-1 ATS
             *last year 4-2 ATS...last years 9-3 ATS
     


    Team                 2015 Coach               2016 Coach

    B Green        Dino Babers                                  Mike Jinks
                                                                           (i) DC Brian Ward

    BYU             B. Mendenhall                            (BM will coach bowl)

    UCF                   George O’Leary                      Scott Frost

    E Caro                 Ruffin McNeill                 Scottie Montgomery

    Georgia          Mark Richt                                    Kirby Smart
                                                                          (i) Brian McClendon

    Ga Southern     Willie Fritz                      (I) RB coach Dell McGee

    Hawaii               Norm Chow                            Nick Rolovich

    Illinois         Tim Beckman                                         Bill Cubit

    Iowa State     Paul Rhoads                                Matt Campbell

    ULM        Todd Berry                                   Matt Viator (McNeese)

    Maryland     Randy Edsall                                  D.J. Durkin

    Memphis     Justin Fuente                                  Mike Norvell
                                                                             (i) Darrell Dickey
                                                                       *note Dickey is staying

    Miami          Al Golden                                         Mark Richt

    Minnesota     Jerry Kill                                           Tracy Claeys

    Missouri         Gary Pinkel                                       Barry Odom

    (NAVY)         .Niumatalolo looks LIKELY to leave for UTAH

    North Texas     Dan McCarney                             Seth Littrell

    Rutgers          Kyle Flood                                           Chris Ash

    S Carolina     Steve Spurrier                                 Will Muschamp

    Syracuse        Scott Shafer                                     Dino Babers

    Toledo            Matt Campbell                                  Jason Candle

    Tulane         Curtis Johnson                                     Willie Fritz

    USC            Steve Sarkisian                                    Clay Helton

    Virginia         Mike London                                  Bronco Mendenhall

    Va Tech       Frank Beamer                                   Justin Fuente
                                                                            *FB will coach bowl



    NOT leaving...Cal...W Mich....Temple...Houston




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    COACHING STUFF


    NOTE: the last 11 years interim HC's are 25-27 SU / 29-28-1 ATS
             *last year 4-2 ATS...last years 9-3 ATS
     


    Team                 2015 Coach               2016 Coach

    B Green        Dino Babers                                  Mike Jinks
                                                                           (i) DC Brian Ward

    BYU             B. Mendenhall                            (BM will coach bowl)

    UCF                   George O’Leary                      Scott Frost

    E Caro                 Ruffin McNeill                 Scottie Montgomery

    Georgia          Mark Richt                                    Kirby Smart
                                                                          (i) Brian McClendon

    Ga Southern     Willie Fritz                      (I) RB coach Dell McGee

    Hawaii               Norm Chow                            Nick Rolovich

    Illinois         Tim Beckman                                         Bill Cubit

    Iowa State     Paul Rhoads                                Matt Campbell

    ULM        Todd Berry                                   Matt Viator (McNeese)

    Maryland     Randy Edsall                                  D.J. Durkin

    Memphis     Justin Fuente                                  Mike Norvell
                                                                             (i) Darrell Dickey
                                                                       *note Dickey is staying

    Miami          Al Golden                                         Mark Richt

    Minnesota     Jerry Kill                                           Tracy Claeys

    Missouri         Gary Pinkel                                       Barry Odom

    (NAVY)         .Niumatalolo looks LIKELY to leave for UTAH

    North Texas     Dan McCarney                             Seth Littrell

    Rutgers          Kyle Flood                                           Chris Ash

    S Carolina     Steve Spurrier                                 Will Muschamp

    Syracuse        Scott Shafer                                     Dino Babers

    Toledo            Matt Campbell                                  Jason Candle

    Tulane         Curtis Johnson                                     Willie Fritz

    USC            Steve Sarkisian                                    Clay Helton

    Virginia         Mike London                                  Bronco Mendenhall

    Va Tech       Frank Beamer                                   Justin Fuente
                                                                            *FB will coach bowl



    NOT leaving...Cal...W Mich....Temple...Houston




     
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    ASSISTANT COACHES     lost for bowl

    Georgia - DC / OC
    Okie St - excellent ST coach
    Wazzu - WR coach
    N Caro- OC
    Penn St- OC fired
    Ohio St- DC
    Mich- DC (former DC Mattisson will call D in bowl)
    Pitt- OC
    Oregon- OC gone
    Tulsa- OC gone
    Memphis- most coaches leaving after bowl (only 2 offensive gone now)
    S Miss- OC
    Nevada- OC
    Tenn- ST / TE coach
    Auburn - DC
    Ariz St - OC
    Ark-   OL



    Ga Southern- BOTH OC / DC will coach bowl
    GA-  TE coach John Lilly OC/ OLB coach Kevin Sherrer DC (bowl)
    Bama- DC Smart WILL coach bowl
    TTech- RB Coach Jinks WILL coach bowl
    Duke- OC Montgomery WILL coach bowl
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    ASSISTANT COACHES     lost for bowl

    Georgia - DC / OC
    Okie St - excellent ST coach
    Wazzu - WR coach
    N Caro- OC
    Penn St- OC fired
    Ohio St- DC
    Mich- DC (former DC Mattisson will call D in bowl)
    Pitt- OC
    Oregon- OC gone
    Tulsa- OC gone
    Memphis- most coaches leaving after bowl (only 2 offensive gone now)
    S Miss- OC
    Nevada- OC
    Tenn- ST / TE coach
    Auburn - DC
    Ariz St - OC
    Ark-   OL



    Ga Southern- BOTH OC / DC will coach bowl
    GA-  TE coach John Lilly OC/ OLB coach Kevin Sherrer DC (bowl)
    Bama- DC Smart WILL coach bowl
    TTech- RB Coach Jinks WILL coach bowl
    Duke- OC Montgomery WILL coach bowl
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urbanwildlife:

    As far as Boise goes, I have a hard time trusting them after watching them 4 or 5 times this year. Washington is a great play I feel.


    Boise may not be the Boise of old this season, but I am betting that they will ramp their game up a few notches for the bowl.    I think Boise will win by DD.   GL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urbanwildlife:

    As far as Boise goes, I have a hard time trusting them after watching them 4 or 5 times this year. Washington is a great play I feel.


    Boise may not be the Boise of old this season, but I am betting that they will ramp their game up a few notches for the bowl.    I think Boise will win by DD.   GL
     
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    good info!  
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    good info!  
     
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    CONFERENCE  STUFF

    2014-15

                       SU         ATS
    ACC           4-6          5-5   
    Big East     2-4          2-4
    Big 10        6-5           6-5
    Big 12        2-5           2-5
    CUSA        4-1           3-2
    Ind             2-1           2-1
    MAC           2-3          3-2
    MW            3-4           3-4
    Pac-12        6-3          5-4
    SEC           7-5           7-5
    Sun Belt      1-2          1-2



    2013-14

    ACC               5-6       6-5
    (AAC)            2-3        3-2
    Big                 2-5       3-4
    Big 12           3-3        3-3
    CUSA            3-2       3-2
    Ind                2-1         1-2
    MAC             0-5         0-5
    MW               3-3        3-3
    Pac-12          6-3        6-3
    SEC              7-3        6-4
    Sun Belt        2-0        2-0



    2012-13


    ACC              4-2        4-2
    Big 10           2-4        3-3
    Big 12           4-5       3-6
    CUSA            4-1       4-1
    Ind                1-2        1-2
    MAC             3-3        3-3   
    MW              1-4         1-4
    Pac-12          4-4        4-4
    SEC              6-3        6-3
    Sun Belt        1-2        1-2
    WAC              2-0        2-0


    ATS notes....


    ACC    18-7 UNDER in BCS / Play-off games
                vs P12 1-9 SU / 3-7 ATS
                vs SEC 7-7 / 8-6
                *the DOG vs B10 is 12-1-1 ATS (either team)

    Big 10  BCS  10-5 / 11-3-1
                B12  5-16 / 12-9
                P12  4-4 / 5-3
                SEC  < 4 dog 4-14 ATS...> 4 dog 14-8 ATS


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    CONFERENCE  STUFF

    2014-15

                       SU         ATS
    ACC           4-6          5-5   
    Big East     2-4          2-4
    Big 10        6-5           6-5
    Big 12        2-5           2-5
    CUSA        4-1           3-2
    Ind             2-1           2-1
    MAC           2-3          3-2
    MW            3-4           3-4
    Pac-12        6-3          5-4
    SEC           7-5           7-5
    Sun Belt      1-2          1-2



    2013-14

    ACC               5-6       6-5
    (AAC)            2-3        3-2
    Big                 2-5       3-4
    Big 12           3-3        3-3
    CUSA            3-2       3-2
    Ind                2-1         1-2
    MAC             0-5         0-5
    MW               3-3        3-3
    Pac-12          6-3        6-3
    SEC              7-3        6-4
    Sun Belt        2-0        2-0



    2012-13


    ACC              4-2        4-2
    Big 10           2-4        3-3
    Big 12           4-5       3-6
    CUSA            4-1       4-1
    Ind                1-2        1-2
    MAC             3-3        3-3   
    MW              1-4         1-4
    Pac-12          4-4        4-4
    SEC              6-3        6-3
    Sun Belt        1-2        1-2
    WAC              2-0        2-0


    ATS notes....


    ACC    18-7 UNDER in BCS / Play-off games
                vs P12 1-9 SU / 3-7 ATS
                vs SEC 7-7 / 8-6
                *the DOG vs B10 is 12-1-1 ATS (either team)

    Big 10  BCS  10-5 / 11-3-1
                B12  5-16 / 12-9
                P12  4-4 / 5-3
                SEC  < 4 dog 4-14 ATS...> 4 dog 14-8 ATS


     
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    Big 12  BCS  8-11 / 5-14
                12/25 > 1/1  23-8 UNDER
                JAN  14-21 / 9-25-1
                <9 dog 5-19 / 6-18...>9 dog 9-3 ATS
                SEC  5-18 / 5-17-1
                P12  13-7 / 12-8

     CUSA   16-6 / 14-7-1 run
                    UNDER is 19-4 ATS
                    6-2 / 7-1 in Jan
                   13-6-1 as 7+ dog...<7 dog 5-17 / 6-16
                   MAC  10-0 / 9-1
                  *fav in MAC games 14-2 ATS

    MAC    4-13 / 3-12 run
               JAN  4-10 SU / ATS
               < 12/25- 10-9 / 11-8
               > 12/25- 7-19 / 5-21
              8-1 OVER if fav
              vs P5 0-11 / 2-9
              vs SBelt dogs are 8-2 ATS 

    MTW    < 12/25 - 6-12 SU/ATS
               when dog -20-11 over
               vs P5 10-6 SU/ATS
              CUSA 13-2 under

    PAC12   13-6 / 11-8 run
               BCS / play-off- 14-8/16-6
               < 12/25 8-15 SU / ATS
               as 4+ fav - 20-8 ATS
               4+ dog - 19-5 ATS
               <3 fav/dog - 4-9 SU/ATS

    SEC    BCS / play-off 14-7 SU/ATS
               22-14 / 25-11 as 3+ dog
              12/25 > 1/1 - 9-10 / 6-13
     
    SBELT  dogs 11-6/12-4-1
              <12/25- 8-4/9-3
              as fav  3-6 SU/ATS
              as dog  11-6/12-4-1
             under is 7-2-1 ATS

    note:  numbers mostly from Vegas Insider
                 *many sites have different ATS results...not all
                   CLOSING lines are the same

    eg.  LY UCLA vs Kan St....KSU closed (seems like) as a small fav....but were clearly the dog throughout betting....I treated them as a dog ....in my numbers (VI did not)



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    Big 12  BCS  8-11 / 5-14
                12/25 > 1/1  23-8 UNDER
                JAN  14-21 / 9-25-1
                <9 dog 5-19 / 6-18...>9 dog 9-3 ATS
                SEC  5-18 / 5-17-1
                P12  13-7 / 12-8

     CUSA   16-6 / 14-7-1 run
                    UNDER is 19-4 ATS
                    6-2 / 7-1 in Jan
                   13-6-1 as 7+ dog...<7 dog 5-17 / 6-16
                   MAC  10-0 / 9-1
                  *fav in MAC games 14-2 ATS

    MAC    4-13 / 3-12 run
               JAN  4-10 SU / ATS
               < 12/25- 10-9 / 11-8
               > 12/25- 7-19 / 5-21
              8-1 OVER if fav
              vs P5 0-11 / 2-9
              vs SBelt dogs are 8-2 ATS 

    MTW    < 12/25 - 6-12 SU/ATS
               when dog -20-11 over
               vs P5 10-6 SU/ATS
              CUSA 13-2 under

    PAC12   13-6 / 11-8 run
               BCS / play-off- 14-8/16-6
               < 12/25 8-15 SU / ATS
               as 4+ fav - 20-8 ATS
               4+ dog - 19-5 ATS
               <3 fav/dog - 4-9 SU/ATS

    SEC    BCS / play-off 14-7 SU/ATS
               22-14 / 25-11 as 3+ dog
              12/25 > 1/1 - 9-10 / 6-13
     
    SBELT  dogs 11-6/12-4-1
              <12/25- 8-4/9-3
              as fav  3-6 SU/ATS
              as dog  11-6/12-4-1
             under is 7-2-1 ATS

    note:  numbers mostly from Vegas Insider
                 *many sites have different ATS results...not all
                   CLOSING lines are the same

    eg.  LY UCLA vs Kan St....KSU closed (seems like) as a small fav....but were clearly the dog throughout betting....I treated them as a dog ....in my numbers (VI did not)



     
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    KEY INJURIES / SUSP


    QB

    Baylor   Johnson will start/Stidham likely 'available'
    OKIE St  Rudolph ?
    Wazzu    Falk should be fine
    A&M      Allen quit team wtf

    RB

    UTAH    BOOKER still out
    Baylor  Linwood should be ok
    Houston  Farrow P
    Wisky   Clement should play
    NDame    Prosise ?


    other...


    Zona    LB Scooby W. should play / check status of other LB's too
    Ohio St  DL Washington OUT
    Ole Miss   DL Nkemdiche likely OUT
    SDSU     QB and top DL Heyward still OUT
    Wazzu     WR Marks OUT
    N Illinois   WR Lewis should play?
    Ohio...S Miss...many hurt / check status

    *just listed a few here....

    best way?.....go to LOCAL NEWS....esp beat writer's blogs
      *HC do NOT have to be honest about injuries....some do not discuss them at all
      *DON'T TAKE THE POSITIVE ANGLE......HOPING a key guy plays.....that's fine for FANS......incredibly STUPID for serious bettors
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    KEY INJURIES / SUSP


    QB

    Baylor   Johnson will start/Stidham likely 'available'
    OKIE St  Rudolph ?
    Wazzu    Falk should be fine
    A&M      Allen quit team wtf

    RB

    UTAH    BOOKER still out
    Baylor  Linwood should be ok
    Houston  Farrow P
    Wisky   Clement should play
    NDame    Prosise ?


    other...


    Zona    LB Scooby W. should play / check status of other LB's too
    Ohio St  DL Washington OUT
    Ole Miss   DL Nkemdiche likely OUT
    SDSU     QB and top DL Heyward still OUT
    Wazzu     WR Marks OUT
    N Illinois   WR Lewis should play?
    Ohio...S Miss...many hurt / check status

    *just listed a few here....

    best way?.....go to LOCAL NEWS....esp beat writer's blogs
      *HC do NOT have to be honest about injuries....some do not discuss them at all
      *DON'T TAKE THE POSITIVE ANGLE......HOPING a key guy plays.....that's fine for FANS......incredibly STUPID for serious bettors
     
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    interesting article from ESPN......

    considering fading the public....regular season (no)...vs bowl season (yes)


    ATS Record                 Units won                               ROI

    All dogs                        226-211 (51.7%)               +2.70    +0.6%

    < 33% of bets               72-46 (61.0%)                    22.16    +18.8%
     
    < 33% of  bets,             33-14 (70.2%)                   +17.20    +36.6%
    vs ranked tm



    *looking at dogs (receiving < 33% of bets)...vs ranked opponents
     
    $$  4 teams fit that 70% spot TY : BYU...Toledo...TT...Fla

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    interesting article from ESPN......

    considering fading the public....regular season (no)...vs bowl season (yes)


    ATS Record                 Units won                               ROI

    All dogs                        226-211 (51.7%)               +2.70    +0.6%

    < 33% of bets               72-46 (61.0%)                    22.16    +18.8%
     
    < 33% of  bets,             33-14 (70.2%)                   +17.20    +36.6%
    vs ranked tm



    *looking at dogs (receiving < 33% of bets)...vs ranked opponents
     
    $$  4 teams fit that 70% spot TY : BYU...Toledo...TT...Fla

     
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    updated....


    TOP PLAYS

    Ole Miss -4
    Oregon +1'


    ONE UNIT

    Temple +1
    Duke  +3
    Baylor  +3
    Tulsa  +14
    USF  +3
    Boise -3

    smaller

    USC -3
    Memphis +3
    Hou +7
    Clemson +4
    NW +7
    WM -2'
    Penn St +7
    New Mexico  +10


    leaning......

    BGreen .....losing coaches should effect the more exp team (BG) less IMO....match-up of BG O (great QB) vs that GS D the deciding factor here
    Wazzu ...Leach bad bowl fav....but if really cold fade Miami for sure
    PITT....if HC leaves.... maybe
    Cal / AF ......stay away...unless AF HC leaves
      *note : I have it on REALLY good authority that F-35's will buzz    the  crowd.....damm close to that plane Eastwood flew in Firefox
    $150 million / flies close to mach2 (about 1500 mph)
    Mich St / under 1H / Bama 2H
    OU / Clem 1H under
    Michigan
    N Dame
    KSU 1H / Hogs 2H
    TCU and/or under 1H .....Ducks and/or over 2H
    WV and or 1H under....these 2 combined 6-16-1 under TY



    Top plays = 1.0 + units
      *here Ducks 2.5 / Ole Miss 7.5+

    one unit = solid plays I think will work

    smaller =  hunches / value plays ...< 0.5 play or  teaser play?
         
           * I'm simply listing ALL games I considered*


    The most predictable thing about bowls IMO
          $$$$   is 1H > 2H tendencies....a team is ready to play...or
                    not.....very seldom does a team 'find it'.....at halftime
              
              *exception being a team with a really never say die QB
                like John Football vs Duke......Duke 1H > Aggies 2H
               a huge bet for me......as was RG3 vs Washington




    HAPPY HOLIDAYS and BOL.......
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    updated....


    TOP PLAYS

    Ole Miss -4
    Oregon +1'


    ONE UNIT

    Temple +1
    Duke  +3
    Baylor  +3
    Tulsa  +14
    USF  +3
    Boise -3

    smaller

    USC -3
    Memphis +3
    Hou +7
    Clemson +4
    NW +7
    WM -2'
    Penn St +7
    New Mexico  +10


    leaning......

    BGreen .....losing coaches should effect the more exp team (BG) less IMO....match-up of BG O (great QB) vs that GS D the deciding factor here
    Wazzu ...Leach bad bowl fav....but if really cold fade Miami for sure
    PITT....if HC leaves.... maybe
    Cal / AF ......stay away...unless AF HC leaves
      *note : I have it on REALLY good authority that F-35's will buzz    the  crowd.....damm close to that plane Eastwood flew in Firefox
    $150 million / flies close to mach2 (about 1500 mph)
    Mich St / under 1H / Bama 2H
    OU / Clem 1H under
    Michigan
    N Dame
    KSU 1H / Hogs 2H
    TCU and/or under 1H .....Ducks and/or over 2H
    WV and or 1H under....these 2 combined 6-16-1 under TY



    Top plays = 1.0 + units
      *here Ducks 2.5 / Ole Miss 7.5+

    one unit = solid plays I think will work

    smaller =  hunches / value plays ...< 0.5 play or  teaser play?
         
           * I'm simply listing ALL games I considered*


    The most predictable thing about bowls IMO
          $$$$   is 1H > 2H tendencies....a team is ready to play...or
                    not.....very seldom does a team 'find it'.....at halftime
              
              *exception being a team with a really never say die QB
                like John Football vs Duke......Duke 1H > Aggies 2H
               a huge bet for me......as was RG3 vs Washington




    HAPPY HOLIDAYS and BOL.......
     
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    added this while still teaser friendly....one unit / even $
     
    Washington -2' / LSU -1

    *both 'sure winners' ......
       *so I'll bet 'em to win....> SMiss / TT both very back-door capable


    forgot:   considering La Tech too
      *trying to figure out WTF happened vs S Miss....and UTEP
      *LT backers beware > Ark St #1 in forced TO's....#1 in picks
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    added this while still teaser friendly....one unit / even $
     
    Washington -2' / LSU -1

    *both 'sure winners' ......
       *so I'll bet 'em to win....> SMiss / TT both very back-door capable


    forgot:   considering La Tech too
      *trying to figure out WTF happened vs S Miss....and UTEP
      *LT backers beware > Ark St #1 in forced TO's....#1 in picks
     
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    speaking of LT / ASU....

    When studying a match-up...go back and look at what gave team A issues.....throughout the season

    Every team has a plan offensively....what they like to do
      *run the ball inside > impose their will........
      *spread you out and run > make you tackle in space...
      *spread you out and throw >make you defend every inch
        etc.....

    For every team... there was a game or several in which a team was able to DISRUPT....what they 'like to do'
      *like Ole Miss vs Bama

    Then......AX yourself......does their bowl opponent possess these same characteristics?........
     *same on D....what offenses have EXPOSED the D weaknesses of team A?.....can their bowl opponent do this?
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    speaking of LT / ASU....

    When studying a match-up...go back and look at what gave team A issues.....throughout the season

    Every team has a plan offensively....what they like to do
      *run the ball inside > impose their will........
      *spread you out and run > make you tackle in space...
      *spread you out and throw >make you defend every inch
        etc.....

    For every team... there was a game or several in which a team was able to DISRUPT....what they 'like to do'
      *like Ole Miss vs Bama

    Then......AX yourself......does their bowl opponent possess these same characteristics?........
     *same on D....what offenses have EXPOSED the D weaknesses of team A?.....can their bowl opponent do this?
     
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    Thanks for all the stuff, man.

    Agree on Oregon.  I rode them for several games in the second half of the season.  Impressive turnaround.  I figure UO is looking forward to a strong finish, while TCU limps into this thing.

    Hadn't really thought about Ole Miss, but it looks like I need to.  I think I'm pretty sure which team is physically tougher. 

    Really like USF.  Man, they looked good to finish the season.


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    Thanks for all the stuff, man.

    Agree on Oregon.  I rode them for several games in the second half of the season.  Impressive turnaround.  I figure UO is looking forward to a strong finish, while TCU limps into this thing.

    Hadn't really thought about Ole Miss, but it looks like I need to.  I think I'm pretty sure which team is physically tougher. 

    Really like USF.  Man, they looked good to finish the season.


     
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    BA is the James Brown of Covers- by far the hardest work man in handicapping.


    The key one for me is when too many guys on a team are thinking NFL - Saban blamed this for Bama losing last year.  I can see Ohio St falling into this trap this year.

    A lot of these situations are very difficult to read.  If a coach leaves for another job, do the players quit?  Or do they rally behind the interim coach?
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    BA is the James Brown of Covers- by far the hardest work man in handicapping.


    The key one for me is when too many guys on a team are thinking NFL - Saban blamed this for Bama losing last year.  I can see Ohio St falling into this trap this year.

    A lot of these situations are very difficult to read.  If a coach leaves for another job, do the players quit?  Or do they rally behind the interim coach?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin:



    Joyeuses fêtes et bonne chance...............


      wowwwwwwwwwww  quelle  classe  !!! tu te souviens  que je parle français  !! ta  grand -maman  a été un bon professeur  !!  joyeuses fêtes  à  toi   et à  tout ceux que tu aimes,tu es de loin le plus professionel  sur cover,tout le monde  te respecte ,bravo et un gros merci pour ces  gentils mots en français,
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    Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin:



    Joyeuses fêtes et bonne chance...............


      wowwwwwwwwwww  quelle  classe  !!! tu te souviens  que je parle français  !! ta  grand -maman  a été un bon professeur  !!  joyeuses fêtes  à  toi   et à  tout ceux que tu aimes,tu es de loin le plus professionel  sur cover,tout le monde  te respecte ,bravo et un gros merci pour ces  gentils mots en français,
     
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    BOWL ATS since 2003

    Akron               0-1-0    0.0%
    Alabama          7-4-0    63.6%
    Arizona            2-4-0    33.3%
    Ariz St              2-6-0    25.0%
    Arkansas         3-4-0    42.9%
    Ark St               3-2-0    60.0%
    Army                1-0-0    100.0%
    Auburn             4-4-1    50.0%
    Ball State         0-4-0    0.0%
    Baylor              2-3-0    40.0%
    Boise State      7-4-0    63.6%
    Boston Col       4-6-0    40.0%
    Bowling Grn      2-4-1    33.3%
    Buffalo              0-2-0    0.0%
    BYU                 5-5-0    50.0%
    California         3-4-0    42.9%
    Central FL        3-4-0    42.9%
    C Mich             4-1-1    80.0%
    Cincinnati         3-6-0    33.3%
    Clemson            5-6-0    45.5%
    Colorado           2-1-0    66.7%
    Colorado St      2-3-0    40.0%
    Connecticut      3-2-0    60.0%
    Duke                2-1-0    66.7%
    E Carolina       3-5-0    37.5%
    Fla Atlantic        2-0-0    100.0%
    Florida              7-4-0    63.6%
    Florida Intl        0-1-1    0.0%
    Florida St         8-4-0    66.7%
    Fresno St        2-7-0    22.2%
    GA Tech            5-6-0    45.5%
    Georgia            7-5-0    58.3%
    Hawaii             2-4-0    33.3%
    Houston            4-5-0    44.4%
    Idaho                0-0-1    0.0%
    Illinois              2-2-0    50.0%
    Indiana            0-0-0    0.0%
    Iowa                7-3-0    70.0%
    Iowa State       3-2-0    60.0%
    Kansas            2-1-1    66.7%
    Kansas St       1-6-0    14.3%
    Kent State       0-1-0    0.0%
    Kentucky         3-2-0    60.0%
    LA Lafayette    4-0-0    100.0%
    LA Monroe       0-1-0    0.0%
    LA Tech            3-0-0    100.0%
    Louisville         4-4-0    50.0%
    LSU                 6-6-0    50.0%
    Marshall          4-1-0    80.0%
    Maryland        4-3-0    57.1%
    Memphis            3-3-0    50.0%
    Miami (FL)      4-5-0    44.4%
    Miami (OH)    1-1-0    50.0%
    Michigan         3-5-1    37.5%
    Michigan St    5-4-0    55.6%
    Middle Tenn    1-3-0    25.0%
    Minnesota      3-6-0    33.3%
    Miss State      3-3-0    50.0%
    Mississippi      5-1-0    83.3%
    Missouri          6-4-0    60.0%

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    BOWL ATS since 2003

    Akron               0-1-0    0.0%
    Alabama          7-4-0    63.6%
    Arizona            2-4-0    33.3%
    Ariz St              2-6-0    25.0%
    Arkansas         3-4-0    42.9%
    Ark St               3-2-0    60.0%
    Army                1-0-0    100.0%
    Auburn             4-4-1    50.0%
    Ball State         0-4-0    0.0%
    Baylor              2-3-0    40.0%
    Boise State      7-4-0    63.6%
    Boston Col       4-6-0    40.0%
    Bowling Grn      2-4-1    33.3%
    Buffalo              0-2-0    0.0%
    BYU                 5-5-0    50.0%
    California         3-4-0    42.9%
    Central FL        3-4-0    42.9%
    C Mich             4-1-1    80.0%
    Cincinnati         3-6-0    33.3%
    Clemson            5-6-0    45.5%
    Colorado           2-1-0    66.7%
    Colorado St      2-3-0    40.0%
    Connecticut      3-2-0    60.0%
    Duke                2-1-0    66.7%
    E Carolina       3-5-0    37.5%
    Fla Atlantic        2-0-0    100.0%
    Florida              7-4-0    63.6%
    Florida Intl        0-1-1    0.0%
    Florida St         8-4-0    66.7%
    Fresno St        2-7-0    22.2%
    GA Tech            5-6-0    45.5%
    Georgia            7-5-0    58.3%
    Hawaii             2-4-0    33.3%
    Houston            4-5-0    44.4%
    Idaho                0-0-1    0.0%
    Illinois              2-2-0    50.0%
    Indiana            0-0-0    0.0%
    Iowa                7-3-0    70.0%
    Iowa State       3-2-0    60.0%
    Kansas            2-1-1    66.7%
    Kansas St       1-6-0    14.3%
    Kent State       0-1-0    0.0%
    Kentucky         3-2-0    60.0%
    LA Lafayette    4-0-0    100.0%
    LA Monroe       0-1-0    0.0%
    LA Tech            3-0-0    100.0%
    Louisville         4-4-0    50.0%
    LSU                 6-6-0    50.0%
    Marshall          4-1-0    80.0%
    Maryland        4-3-0    57.1%
    Memphis            3-3-0    50.0%
    Miami (FL)      4-5-0    44.4%
    Miami (OH)    1-1-0    50.0%
    Michigan         3-5-1    37.5%
    Michigan St    5-4-0    55.6%
    Middle Tenn    1-3-0    25.0%
    Minnesota      3-6-0    33.3%
    Miss State      3-3-0    50.0%
    Mississippi      5-1-0    83.3%
    Missouri          6-4-0    60.0%

     
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    N Carolina      3-4-0    42.9%
    N Illinois         3-6-0    33.3%
    Navy               7-4-0    63.6%
    NC State         5-1-1    83.3%

    Nebraska        6-3-1    66.7%
    Nevada           2-6-1    25.0%
    New Mexico    1-2-0    33.3%
    North Texas    1-2-0    33.3%
    Northwestern    5-2-0    71.4%
    Notre Dame    3-6-0    33.3%
    Ohio                2-4-0    33.3%
    Ohio State      8-4-0    66.7%
    Oklahoma      4-8-0    33.3%
    Oklahoma St   3-7-0    30.0%
    Oregon          7-4-0    63.6%
    Oregon St      4-3-0    57.1%
    Penn State     4-4-0    50.0%
    Pittsburgh      3-6-0    33.3%
    Purdue          1-5-0    16.7%
    Rice               3-2-0    60.0%
    Rutgers           7-1-1    87.5%
    S Alabama     0-1-0    0.0%
    S Carolina      4-5-0    44.4%
    S Florida        4-2-0    66.7%
    S Methodist    3-1-0    75.0%
    S Miss            4-4-1    50.0%
    San Diego St   2-3-0    40.0%
    San Jose St    2-0-0    100.0%
    Stanford          5-1-0    83.3%
    Syracuse         3-1-0    75.0%
    Temple            1-1-0    50.0%
    Tennessee      3-4-0    42.9%
    Texas              4-7-0    36.4%
    Texas A&M     3-6-0    33.3%
    Texas Tech     4-6-0    40.0%
    Toledo             2-3-1    40.0%
    Troy                2-2-1    50.0%
    Tulane            0-1-0    0.0%
    Tulsa              5-3-0    62.5%
    TCU               3-6-0    33.3%
    UTEP             0-4-0    0.0%
    UCLA             5-5-0    50.0%
    UNLV             0-1-0    0.0%
    USC               7-3-0    70.0%
    Utah                8-2-0    80.0%

    Utah State      3-1-0    75.0%
    VA Tech          6-4-2    60.0%
    Vanderbilt       3-1-0    75.0%
    Virginia           3-2-0    60.0%
    W Kentucky    0-2-0    0.0%
    W Michigan    1-3-0    25.0%
    W Virginia      3-8-0    27.3%
    Wake Forest    3-1-0    75.0%
    Wash State     1-1-0    50.0%
    Washington     3-2-0    60.0%
    Wisconsin       6-6-0    50.0%
    Wyoming         2-1-0    66.7%




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    N Carolina      3-4-0    42.9%
    N Illinois         3-6-0    33.3%
    Navy               7-4-0    63.6%
    NC State         5-1-1    83.3%

    Nebraska        6-3-1    66.7%
    Nevada           2-6-1    25.0%
    New Mexico    1-2-0    33.3%
    North Texas    1-2-0    33.3%
    Northwestern    5-2-0    71.4%
    Notre Dame    3-6-0    33.3%
    Ohio                2-4-0    33.3%
    Ohio State      8-4-0    66.7%
    Oklahoma      4-8-0    33.3%
    Oklahoma St   3-7-0    30.0%
    Oregon          7-4-0    63.6%
    Oregon St      4-3-0    57.1%
    Penn State     4-4-0    50.0%
    Pittsburgh      3-6-0    33.3%
    Purdue          1-5-0    16.7%
    Rice               3-2-0    60.0%
    Rutgers           7-1-1    87.5%
    S Alabama     0-1-0    0.0%
    S Carolina      4-5-0    44.4%
    S Florida        4-2-0    66.7%
    S Methodist    3-1-0    75.0%
    S Miss            4-4-1    50.0%
    San Diego St   2-3-0    40.0%
    San Jose St    2-0-0    100.0%
    Stanford          5-1-0    83.3%
    Syracuse         3-1-0    75.0%
    Temple            1-1-0    50.0%
    Tennessee      3-4-0    42.9%
    Texas              4-7-0    36.4%
    Texas A&M     3-6-0    33.3%
    Texas Tech     4-6-0    40.0%
    Toledo             2-3-1    40.0%
    Troy                2-2-1    50.0%
    Tulane            0-1-0    0.0%
    Tulsa              5-3-0    62.5%
    TCU               3-6-0    33.3%
    UTEP             0-4-0    0.0%
    UCLA             5-5-0    50.0%
    UNLV             0-1-0    0.0%
    USC               7-3-0    70.0%
    Utah                8-2-0    80.0%

    Utah State      3-1-0    75.0%
    VA Tech          6-4-2    60.0%
    Vanderbilt       3-1-0    75.0%
    Virginia           3-2-0    60.0%
    W Kentucky    0-2-0    0.0%
    W Michigan    1-3-0    25.0%
    W Virginia      3-8-0    27.3%
    Wake Forest    3-1-0    75.0%
    Wash State     1-1-0    50.0%
    Washington     3-2-0    60.0%
    Wisconsin       6-6-0    50.0%
    Wyoming         2-1-0    66.7%




     
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    BOWL O/U since 2003

    Air Force          4-3-0    57.1%
    Akron               1-0-0    100.0%
    Alabama            8-3-0    72.7%
    Arizona             3-3-0    50.0%
    Arizona St        5-3-0    62.5%
    Arkansas          0-7-0    0.0%
    Arkansas St      2-3-0    40.0%
    Army                 0-1-0    0.0%
    Auburn              2-6-1    25.0%
    Ball State           1-3-0    25.0%
    Baylor               3-2-0    60.0%
    Boise State       6-5-0    54.5%
    Boston Col        5-5-0    50.0%
    Bowling Grn      5-2-0    71.4%
    Buffalo              2-0-0    100.0%
    BYU                 4-6-0    40.0%
    California         6-2-0    75.0%
    Central FL        4-3-0    57.1%
    Central Mich     3-3-0    50.0%
    Cincinnati         5-4-0    55.6%
    Clemson           3-8-0    27.3%
    Colorado           2-1-0    66.7%
    Colorado St       4-1-0    80.0%
    Connecticut      2-3-0    40.0%
    Duke                3-0-0    100.0%
    E Carolina        4-4-0    50.0%
    FAU                 1-1-0    50.0%
    Florida             7-4-0    63.6%
    FIU                  1-1-0    50.0%
    Florida St         6-6-0    50.0%
    Fresno St         5-4-1    55.6%
    GA Tech           7-5-0    58.3%
    Georgia           6-6-0    50.0%
    Hawaii             4-2-0    66.7%
    Houston           6-3-0    66.7%
    Idaho               1-0-0    100.0%
    Illinois              1-3-0    25.0%
    Indiana            1-0-0    100.0%
    Iowa                5-5-0    50.0%
    Iowa State      1-4-0    20.0%
    Kansas            3-1-0    75.0%
    Kansas St        4-3-0    57.1%
    Kent State       0-1-0    0.0%
    Kentucky        2-3-0    40.0%
    ULA                2-2-0    50.0%
    ULM               0-0-1    0.0%
    LA Tech           0-3-0    0.0%
    Louisville         5-3-0    62.5%
    LSU                6-6-0    50.0%
    Marshall         1-4-0    20.0%
    Maryland        3-3-1    50.0%
    Memphis        4-2-0    66.7%
    Miami (FL)      2-7-0    22.2%
    Miami (OH)     1-1-0    50.0%
    Michigan         6-3-0    66.7%
    Michigan St     5-4-0    55.6%
    Middle Tenn     2-2-0    50.0%
    Minnesota       6-3-0    66.7%
    Miss State       3-3-0    50.0%
    Mississippi       2-3-1    40.0%
    Missouri          6-4-0    60.0%
    N Carolina       4-3-0    57.1%
    N Illinois          3-6-0    33.3%
    Navy               5-6-0    45.5%
    NC State        4-3-0    57.1%
    Nebraska       3-7-0    30.0%
    Nevada          3-6-0    33.3%
    New Mexico    1-2-0    33.3%
    North Texas    0-3-0    0.0%
    Northwestern    3-4-0    42.9%

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    BOWL O/U since 2003

    Air Force          4-3-0    57.1%
    Akron               1-0-0    100.0%
    Alabama            8-3-0    72.7%
    Arizona             3-3-0    50.0%
    Arizona St        5-3-0    62.5%
    Arkansas          0-7-0    0.0%
    Arkansas St      2-3-0    40.0%
    Army                 0-1-0    0.0%
    Auburn              2-6-1    25.0%
    Ball State           1-3-0    25.0%
    Baylor               3-2-0    60.0%
    Boise State       6-5-0    54.5%
    Boston Col        5-5-0    50.0%
    Bowling Grn      5-2-0    71.4%
    Buffalo              2-0-0    100.0%
    BYU                 4-6-0    40.0%
    California         6-2-0    75.0%
    Central FL        4-3-0    57.1%
    Central Mich     3-3-0    50.0%
    Cincinnati         5-4-0    55.6%
    Clemson           3-8-0    27.3%
    Colorado           2-1-0    66.7%
    Colorado St       4-1-0    80.0%
    Connecticut      2-3-0    40.0%
    Duke                3-0-0    100.0%
    E Carolina        4-4-0    50.0%
    FAU                 1-1-0    50.0%
    Florida             7-4-0    63.6%
    FIU                  1-1-0    50.0%
    Florida St         6-6-0    50.0%
    Fresno St         5-4-1    55.6%
    GA Tech           7-5-0    58.3%
    Georgia           6-6-0    50.0%
    Hawaii             4-2-0    66.7%
    Houston           6-3-0    66.7%
    Idaho               1-0-0    100.0%
    Illinois              1-3-0    25.0%
    Indiana            1-0-0    100.0%
    Iowa                5-5-0    50.0%
    Iowa State      1-4-0    20.0%
    Kansas            3-1-0    75.0%
    Kansas St        4-3-0    57.1%
    Kent State       0-1-0    0.0%
    Kentucky        2-3-0    40.0%
    ULA                2-2-0    50.0%
    ULM               0-0-1    0.0%
    LA Tech           0-3-0    0.0%
    Louisville         5-3-0    62.5%
    LSU                6-6-0    50.0%
    Marshall         1-4-0    20.0%
    Maryland        3-3-1    50.0%
    Memphis        4-2-0    66.7%
    Miami (FL)      2-7-0    22.2%
    Miami (OH)     1-1-0    50.0%
    Michigan         6-3-0    66.7%
    Michigan St     5-4-0    55.6%
    Middle Tenn     2-2-0    50.0%
    Minnesota       6-3-0    66.7%
    Miss State       3-3-0    50.0%
    Mississippi       2-3-1    40.0%
    Missouri          6-4-0    60.0%
    N Carolina       4-3-0    57.1%
    N Illinois          3-6-0    33.3%
    Navy               5-6-0    45.5%
    NC State        4-3-0    57.1%
    Nebraska       3-7-0    30.0%
    Nevada          3-6-0    33.3%
    New Mexico    1-2-0    33.3%
    North Texas    0-3-0    0.0%
    Northwestern    3-4-0    42.9%

     
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    Notre Dame     6-3-0    66.7%
    Ohio                 1-4-1    20.0%
    Ohio State        5-7-0    41.7%
    Oklahoma        6-6-0    50.0%
    Oklahoma St    5-5-1    50.0%
    Oregon            4-7-0    36.4%
    Oregon St        4-3-0    57.1%
    Penn State      4-4-0    50.0%
    Pittsburgh        3-6-0    33.3%
    Purdue            4-2-0    66.7%
    Rice                 2-3-0    40.0%
    Rutgers            4-5-0    44.4%
    S Alabama       1-0-0    100.0%
    S Carolina        4-5-0    44.4%
    S Florida          2-4-0    33.3%
    S Methodist      0-4-0    0.0%
    S Mississippi     4-5-0    44.4%
    San Diego St     2-3-0    40.0%
    San Jose St      1-1-0    50.0%
    Stanford            4-2-0    66.7%
    Syracuse           2-2-0    50.0%
    Temple              2-0-0    100.0%
    Tennessee        3-4-0    42.9%
    Texas                5-6-0    45.5%
    Texas A&M       4-5-0    44.4%
    Texas Tech        6-3-1    66.7%
    Toledo               3-3-0    50.0%
    Troy                  5-0-0    100.0%
    Tulane                0-1-0    0.0%
    Tulsa                 2-6-0    25.0%
    TCU                  1-8-0    11.1%
    UTEP               2-2-0    50.0%
    UCLA               5-5-0    50.0%
    UNLV                0-1-0    0.0%
    USC                  6-3-1    66.7%
    Utah                  4-6-0    40.0%
    Utah State        0-4-0    0.0%
    VA Tech            6-6-0    50.0%
    Vanderbilt         3-1-0    75.0%
    Virginia             3-1-1    75.0%
    W Kentucky      1-1-0    50.0%
    W Michigan       3-1-0    75.0%
    W Virginia         7-3-1    70.0%
    Wake Forest     1-3-0    25.0%
    Wash State       1-1-0    50.0%
    Washington       2-3-0    40.0%
    Wisconsin          4-7-1    36.4%
    Wyoming           2-1-0    66.7%










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    Notre Dame     6-3-0    66.7%
    Ohio                 1-4-1    20.0%
    Ohio State        5-7-0    41.7%
    Oklahoma        6-6-0    50.0%
    Oklahoma St    5-5-1    50.0%
    Oregon            4-7-0    36.4%
    Oregon St        4-3-0    57.1%
    Penn State      4-4-0    50.0%
    Pittsburgh        3-6-0    33.3%
    Purdue            4-2-0    66.7%
    Rice                 2-3-0    40.0%
    Rutgers            4-5-0    44.4%
    S Alabama       1-0-0    100.0%
    S Carolina        4-5-0    44.4%
    S Florida          2-4-0    33.3%
    S Methodist      0-4-0    0.0%
    S Mississippi     4-5-0    44.4%
    San Diego St     2-3-0    40.0%
    San Jose St      1-1-0    50.0%
    Stanford            4-2-0    66.7%
    Syracuse           2-2-0    50.0%
    Temple              2-0-0    100.0%
    Tennessee        3-4-0    42.9%
    Texas                5-6-0    45.5%
    Texas A&M       4-5-0    44.4%
    Texas Tech        6-3-1    66.7%
    Toledo               3-3-0    50.0%
    Troy                  5-0-0    100.0%
    Tulane                0-1-0    0.0%
    Tulsa                 2-6-0    25.0%
    TCU                  1-8-0    11.1%
    UTEP               2-2-0    50.0%
    UCLA               5-5-0    50.0%
    UNLV                0-1-0    0.0%
    USC                  6-3-1    66.7%
    Utah                  4-6-0    40.0%
    Utah State        0-4-0    0.0%
    VA Tech            6-6-0    50.0%
    Vanderbilt         3-1-0    75.0%
    Virginia             3-1-1    75.0%
    W Kentucky      1-1-0    50.0%
    W Michigan       3-1-0    75.0%
    W Virginia         7-3-1    70.0%
    Wake Forest     1-3-0    25.0%
    Wash State       1-1-0    50.0%
    Washington       2-3-0    40.0%
    Wisconsin          4-7-1    36.4%
    Wyoming           2-1-0    66.7%










     
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    above from TeamRankings.com...

    note differences between regular season O/U and bowl O/U.....
      *note as many as I thought
                          
                           % OVER
                  reg season       bowl
    BAMA          47%             73%

    FLA              50                64

    MICH           51                 67

    NEB             50                 30

    NDame        45                 67

    OREG          57                 36

    TCU             50                  11

    WV              49                  70        
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    above from TeamRankings.com...

    note differences between regular season O/U and bowl O/U.....
      *note as many as I thought
                          
                           % OVER
                  reg season       bowl
    BAMA          47%             73%

    FLA              50                64

    MICH           51                 67

    NEB             50                 30

    NDame        45                 67

    OREG          57                 36

    TCU             50                  11

    WV              49                  70        
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by LonghornHoosier:

    good info!  


    good man LH....best of luck and Happy Holidays........
    It is better to be feared - than to be loved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LonghornHoosier:

    good info!  


    good man LH....best of luck and Happy Holidays........
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