LIVE Top 1st Mar 31
TEX 0 -117 o8.5
BAL 0 +108 u8.5
LIVE Top 1st Mar 31
WAS 0 +162 o9.5
PHI 0 -177 u9.5
PIT -115 o9.0
CIN +106 u9.0
CHW +134 o8.0
MIA -145 u8.0
COL +226 o8.0
TOR -253 u8.0
ATH +135 o9.0
ATL -147 u9.0
TB +109 o7.5
MIL -118 u7.5
LAA +127 o7.0
CHC -138 u7.0
NYM -141 o8.5
STL +128 u8.5
BOS +129 o7.5
HOU -140 u7.5
SF -128 o7.5
SD +118 u7.5
NYY -106 o7.0
SEA -102 u7.0
DET +102 o9.0
AZ -110 u9.0
CLE +230 o8.0
LAD -257 u8.0
2  Cincinnati
7  Pittsburgh

Cincinnati vs Pittsburgh Results, Match Player Stats & Records

Boxscore

Livescore Details
Team R H E 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
Cincinnati Reds CIN Cincinnati 2 9 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 0
Pittsburgh Pirates PIT Pittsburgh 7 11 0 1 0 0 0 2 0 3 1 0

Cincinnati Pitcher Anthony DeSclafani A. DeSclafani (L)

Pittsburgh Pitcher Allan Burnett A. Burnett (W)

Game Info

Location  PNC Park

Temperature  0° Temperature

Attendance  27,302 attendance

Home  Angel Hernandez

1st  Scott Barry

2nd  Ted Barrett

3rd  Chris Conroy

Batting Stats

Cincinnati Batting Stats Table
POS AB R H RBI BB SO LOB AVG
B. Hamilton CF 4 0 0 0 0 0 3 .206
M. Byrd LF 3 1 2 0 1 1 0 .221
J. Votto 1B 4 0 0 1 0 1 2 .311
T. Frazier 3B 3 1 2 1 0 0 0 .240
B. Phillips 2B 4 0 1 0 0 0 3 .314
J. Bruce RF 3 0 0 0 1 1 2 .170
K. Negrón SS 4 0 2 0 0 1 2 .118
B. Pena C 4 0 2 0 0 0 1 .306
J. Schumaker PH 1 0 0 0 0 1 2 .160
     D. Mesoraco PH 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .077
Totals 33 2 9 2 2 6 16

Battling

  • 3B - Marlon Byrd (1)
  • HR - Todd Frazier (10)
  • TB - Marlon Byrd 4, Todd Frazier 5, Brandon Phillips 1, Kristopher Negrón 2, Brayan Pena 2
  • RBI - Joseph Votto (18), Todd Frazier (19)
  • GIDP - Joseph Votto (4), Brayan Pena (3)
  • Team LOB - 16

Fielding

  • DP - 1
Pittsburgh Batting Stats Table
POS AB R H RBI BB SO LOB AVG
G. Polanco RF 3 2 1 0 2 0 2 .267
N. Walker 2B 3 2 2 1 2 0 1 .280
A. McCutchen CF 4 2 3 1 1 0 1 .210
S. Marte LF 3 1 1 2 1 0 3 .255
P. Álvarez 1B 4 0 1 1 0 1 6 .221
     S. Rodríguez 1B 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .370
J. Harrison 3B 3 0 0 0 1 1 3 .175
J. Mercer SS 4 0 1 0 0 1 4 .193
C. Stewart C 4 0 2 2 0 0 0 .286
J. Hart PH 1 0 0 0 0 1 2 .217
Totals 31 7 11 7 7 4 22

Battling

  • 2B - Gregory Polanco (9), Andrew McCutchen (3), Pedro Álvarez (5)
  • TB - Gregory Polanco 2, Neil Walker 2, Andrew McCutchen 4, Starling Marte 1, Pedro Álvarez 2, Jordy Mercer 1, Chris Stewart 2
  • RBI - Neil Walker (10), Andrew McCutchen (14), Starling Marte 2 (20), Pedro Álvarez (13), Chris Stewart 2 (5)
  • SF - Starling Marte (2)
  • GIDP - Starling Marte (3)
  • Team LOB - 22

Fielding

  • DP - 3

Pitching Stats

Cincinnati Pitching Stats Table
IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
A. DeSclafani (L 2-3) 5 .0 7 3 3 4 1 0 2.50
J. Hoover 1 .0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3.86
K. Gregg 0 .2 3 3 3 2 2 0 10.13
C. Contreras 1 .1 1 1 1 1 1 0 2.70
  • Pitches-Strikes - Anthony DeSclafani 0-0, James Hoover 0-0, Kevin Gregg 0-0, Carlos Contreras 0-0
  • Ground Balls-Fly Balls - Anthony DeSclafani 6-4, James Hoover 1-1, Kevin Gregg 0-0, Carlos Contreras 1-1
  • Batters Faced - Anthony DeSclafani 25, James Hoover 3, Kevin Gregg 7, Carlos Contreras 5
Pittsburgh Pitching Stats Table
IP H R ER BB SO HR ERA
A. Burnett (W 1-1) 7 .0 7 2 2 2 4 1 1.66
W. Hughes 0 .1 1 0 0 0 1 0 2.57
A. Watson (H 5) 0 .2 0 0 0 0 1 0 2.12
M. Melancon 1 .0 1 0 0 0 0 0 4.38
  • Pitches-Strikes - Allan Burnett 0-0, William Hughes 0-0, Anthony Watson 0-0, Mark Melancon 0-0
  • Ground Balls-Fly Balls - Allan Burnett 12-2, William Hughes 0-0, Anthony Watson 0-1, Mark Melancon 1-1
  • Batters Faced - Allan Burnett 28, William Hughes 3, Anthony Watson 2, Mark Melancon 3

CIN vs PITRecords

CIN vs PITRecords

Team Table
Team W/L H/A $ RF RA Tot O/U
Cincinnati logo CIN 14-13 8-8 119 4.07 4.04 8.11 11-13
Pittsburgh logo PIT 12-15 6-6 -474 3.48 3.26 6.74 10-12

CIN vs PITHead To Head

Win / Loss
8-2
Over / Under
3-6-1
Head-To-Head
Date Home Result ML O/U CIN Starter (IP) PIT Starter (IP)
May 06, '15 PIT Cincinnati logo 3 - 0 CIN +156 u7.0 M. Leake (8.0) G. Cole (5.0)
May 05, '15 PIT Cincinnati logo 7 - 1 CIN +130 o7.5 M. Lorenzen (6.0) J. Locke (7.0)
Apr 09, '15 CIN Cincinnati logo 3 - 2 CIN +102 u8.0 A. DeSclafani (6.0) A. Burnett (5.1)
Apr 08, '15 CIN Cincinnati logo 5 - 4 CIN +110 o7.5 M. Leake (5.2) G. Cole (5.0)
Apr 06, '15 CIN Cincinnati logo 5 - 2 CIN -118 P7.0 J. Cueto (7.0) F. Liriano (7.0)
Sep 28, '14 CIN Cincinnati logo 4 - 1 CIN +100 u6.5 J. Cueto (8.0) G. Cole (7.0)
Sep 27, '14 CIN Cincinnati logo 10 - 6 CIN +140 o6.5 A. Simon (5.0) F. Liriano (5.0)
Sep 26, '14 CIN Pittsburgh logo 3 - 1 PIT -140 u7.0 M. Leake (7.0) V. Worley (6.1)
Aug 31, '14 PIT Cincinnati logo 3 - 2 CIN +120 u6.5 J. Cueto (8.0) F. Liriano (7.0)
Aug 30, '14 PIT Pittsburgh logo 3 - 2 PIT -142 u7.5 A. Simon (7.0) V. Worley (6.1)

Cincinnati logo Cincinnati Record Last 10

Win / Loss
6-4-0
Over / Under
4-4-2
ML
$194
Team - Last 10
Date vs Result ML O/U Starter (IP) Opp Starter (IP)
May 06, '15 @ Pittsburgh logo PIT W 3 - 0 W +156 u7.0 M. Leake (8.0) G. Cole (5.0)
May 05, '15 @ Pittsburgh logo PIT W 7 - 1 W +130 o7.5 M. Lorenzen (6.0) J. Locke (7.0)
May 03, '15 @ Atlanta logo ATL L 0 - 5 L -139 u6.5 J. Cueto (6.0) J. Teheran (6.0)
May 02, '15 @ Atlanta logo ATL W 8 - 4 W -113 o7.5 J. Marquis (6.1) E. Stults (7.0)
May 01, '15 @ Atlanta logo ATL L 3 - 4 L -123 P7.0 A. DeSclafani (5.0) M. Foltynewicz (5.0)
Apr 30, '15 @ Atlanta logo ATL W 5 - 1 W -116 u7.5 M. Leake (8.0) S. Miller (7.0)
Apr 29, '15 Milwaukee logo MIL L 3 - 8 L -118 o7.5 M. Lorenzen (5.0) M. Garza (6.2)
Apr 28, '15 Milwaukee logo MIL W 4 - 2 W -185 u7.0 J. Cueto (8.0) K. Lohse (7.0)
Apr 27, '15 Milwaukee logo MIL W 9 - 6 W -125 o7.5 J. Marquis (8.0) J. Nelson (2.1)
Apr 26, '15 Chicago logo CHC L 2 - 5 L +107 P7.0 A. DeSclafani (5.0) J. Arrieta (6.0)

Cincinnati Next 3 Games

Pittsburgh logo Pittsburgh Record Last 10

Win / Loss
3-7-0
Over / Under
2-6-2
ML
-$456
Team - Last 10
Date vs Result ML O/U Starter (IP) Opp Starter (IP)
May 06, '15 Cincinnati logo CIN L 0 - 3 L -170 u7.0 G. Cole (5.0) M. Leake (8.0)
May 05, '15 Cincinnati logo CIN L 1 - 7 L -141 o7.5 J. Locke (7.0) M. Lorenzen (6.0)
May 03, '15 @ St. Louis logo STL L 2 - 3 L +136 u7.5 V. Worley (6.0) M. Wacha (6.2)
May 02, '15 @ St. Louis logo STL L 1 - 2 L +101 u7.0 F. Liriano (8.0) J. Lackey (6.0)
May 01, '15 @ St. Louis logo STL L 1 - 2 L +131 u7.5 A. Burnett (6.0) M. Lynn (7.0)
Apr 29, '15 @ Chicago logo CHC W 8 - 1 W -111 o7.0 G. Cole (6.0) K. Hendricks (5.0)
Apr 28, '15 @ Chicago logo CHC L 2 - 6 L -108 P8.0 J. Locke (3.2) T. Wood (7.0)
Apr 27, '15 @ Chicago logo CHC L 0 - 4 L +110 u7.0 V. Worley (6.0) J. Hammel (8.0)
Apr 26, '15 @ Arizona logo AZ W 8 - 0 W -131 P8.0 F. Liriano (6.1) J. Hellickson (4.2)
Apr 25, '15 @ Arizona logo AZ W 2 - 1 W -128 u9.0 A. Burnett (7.0) R. De La Rosa (7.0)

Pittsburgh Next 3 Games

Series Stats

Series Game Records

Cincinnati
Overall After Win After Loss
Game 1 6-3 8-9 16-21
Game 2 5-4 9-13 13-16
Game 3 3-4 8-12 10-16
Game 4 0-2 0-5 0-6
Pittsburgh
Overall After Win After Loss
Game 1 4-5 19-17 11-6
Game 2 2-7 19-11 10-12
Game 3 5-3 18-7 13-9
Game 4 1-0 6-1 2-2

Next 3 Series

Cincinnati
Date vs W-L Home/Away
Sat, May 9 - Sun, May 10 @ CHW logo CHW 76-86 39-41 H
Mon, May 11 - Wed, May 13 vs ATL logo ATL 67-95 25-56 A
Thu, May 14 - Sun, May 17 vs SF logo SF 84-78 37-44 A
Pittsburgh
Date vs W-L Home/Away
Fri, May 8 - Sun, May 10 vs STL logo STL 100-62 45-35 A
Mon, May 11 - Thu, May 14 @ PHI logo PHI 63-99 37-44 H
Fri, May 15 - Sun, May 17 @ CHC logo CHC 97-65 49-32 H

CIN vs PIT Preview

Cincinnati at Pittsburgh

Last Meeting ( May 6, 2015 ) Cincinnati 3, Pittsburgh 0

CIN vs PITInjury report

Cincinnati logoCincinnati's Injuries

Cincinnati Starters Last Game

Pitchers
POS # Player
RP 70 Jose Diaz
RP 53 Carlos Contreras
RP 63 Samuel LeCure
RP 41 Ryan Mattheus
Hitters
POS # Player
CF-RF 30 Jason Bourgeois
SS 7 Eugenio Suarez
1B 19 Joseph Votto
2B 4 Brandon Phillips
3B 21 Todd Frazier
RF 32 Jay Bruce
CF 40 * Tyler Holt
PH 55 * Jared Schumaker
LF 23 Adam Duvall
C 29 Brayan Pena
PH 65 Ryan LaMarre
PH 3 * Ivan De Jesus Jr.
(* - Change In Order)

Pittsburgh's Injuries

Pittsburgh Starters Last Game

(* - Change In Order)

CIN vs PIT Starters Recent Games

Win / Loss
3-2
ERA
2.03
Avg. IP
6.0
Last 5
Date Score
Line O/U IP H R ER SO BB HR PIT P/IP GB:FB
May 01, '15 ATL 4 - CIN 3
L -123 p7.0 5.0 4 4 4 5 4 1 0 0.0 2.0
Apr 26, '15 CIN 2 - CHC 5
L +107 p7.0 5.0 5 5 1 5 1 1 0 0.0 0.0
Apr 20, '15 MIL 1 - CIN 6
W -108 u8.0 8.0 2 0 0 5 1 0 0 0.0 2.0
Apr 14, '15 CHC 2 - CIN 3
W +132 u7.0 7.0 2 0 0 5 2 0 0 0.0 1.6
Apr 09, '15 CIN 3 - PIT 2
W +102 u8.0 6.0 5 2 2 6 1 1 0 0.0 1.0
Last 5 Avg. 6.0 3.6 2.2 1.4 5.2 1.8 0.6 0.0 0.0 1.3
Last Vs Pittsburgh
Date Score
Line O/U IP H R ER SO BB HR PIT P/IP GB:FB
Apr 09, '15 CIN 3 - PIT 2
W +102 u8.0 6.0 5 2 2 6 1 1 0 0.0 1.0
Last 1 Avg. 6.0 5.0 2.0 2.0 6.0 1.0 1.0 0.0 0.0 1.0
Win / Loss
1-4
ERA
5.76
Avg. IP
5.2
Last 5
Date Score
Line O/U IP H R ER SO BB HR PIT P/IP GB:FB
Sep 27, '14 PHI 2 - ATL 4
L -117 u7.5 6.2 5 4 4 7 3 2 0 0.0 4.0
Sep 21, '14 OAK 8 - PHI 6
L +190 o7.5 4.1 3 6 6 3 6 0 0 0.0 5.0
Sep 16, '14 SD 5 - PHI 4
L +115 o6.5 5.2 8 5 4 4 4 1 0 0.0 2.3
Sep 11, '14 PHI 1 - PIT 4
L +127 u7.5 6.0 6 4 4 7 2 0 0 0.0 0.0
Sep 06, '14 WAS 1 - PHI 3
W +155 u8.0 7.0 6 1 1 4 2 0 0 0.0 4.0
Last 5 Avg. 5.2 5.6 4.0 3.8 5.0 3.4 0.6 0.0 0.0 3.1
Last Vs Cincinnati
Date Score
Line O/U IP H R ER SO BB HR PIT P/IP GB:FB
Sep 27, '13 CIN 1 - PIT 4
W +122 u7.0 8.0 5 1 1 6 1 1 0 0.0 3.7
Sep 21, '13 PIT 4 - CIN 2
W -106 u7.0 7.0 4 2 2 12 3 1 0 0.0 5.0
Jul 20, '13 CIN 5 - PIT 4
L +126 o8.0 5.2 10 5 2 8 2 0 0 0.0 4.0
Last 3 Avg. 6.2 6.3 2.7 1.7 8.7 2.0 0.7 0.0 0.0 4.2

CIN vs PITStats

CIN vs PIT Stats Analysis

All Pitchers
ERA AVG. OBP WHIP IP HR BB K
Cincinnati logo Cincinnati 3.75 .222 .280 1.11 8.2 1.2 2.5 7.8
Pittsburgh logo Pittsburgh 2.96 .239 .299 1.20 9.0 0.6 2.7 8.7

More Stats

Cincinnati Bullpen REST G IP H R ER HR BB SO ERA WHIP GB:FB
Pedro Villarreal (R) 21 1 2.0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0.00 1.00 3:0
Last 3 1 2.0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0.00 1.00 3:0
Manuel Parra (L) 14 7 3.1 7 2 1 0 2 3 3.00 2.70 4:0
Last 3 3 2.1 4 1 0 0 0 2 0.00 1.71 4:0
Carlos Contreras (R) 5 2 2.0 0 0 0 0 1 2 0.00 0.50 0:1
Last 3 2 2.0 0 0 0 0 1 2 0.00 0.50 0:1
James Hoover (R) 4 10 10.2 6 6 5 0 7 9 4.50 1.22 15:6
Last 3 3 3.0 2 0 0 0 1 2 0.00 1.00 5:1
Burke Badenhop (R) 4 10 8.0 16 12 12 2 2 4 13.50 2.25 9:7
Last 3 3 2.1 7 8 8 0 1 2 36.00 3.43 1:3
Anthony Cingrani (L) 2 8 9.2 4 2 2 0 7 10 2.00 1.14 9:1
Last 3 3 3.1 2 1 1 0 2 3 3.00 1.20 3:1
Jose Diaz (R) 2 11 9.2 10 9 9 3 2 12 9.00 1.24 10:3
Last 3 3 2.1 4 5 5 1 0 3 22.50 1.71 2:1
Michael Lorenzen (R) 2 2 11.0 11 4 4 4 4 9 3.27 1.36 14:3
Last 3 2 11.0 11 4 4 4 4 9 3.27 1.36 14:3
Aroldis Chapman (L) 1 13 12.2 6 0 0 0 6 22 0.00 0.95 5:7
Last 3 3 3.0 1 0 0 0 3 5 0.00 1.33 2:1
Bullpen Total 55 64 69.0 61 35 33 9 32 71 4.30 1.35 69:28
Last 3 23 31.1 32 19 18 5 13 28 5.17 1.44 34:11
Available Bullpen 54 51 56.1 55 35 33 9 26 49 5.27 1.44 64:21


Pittsburgh Bullpen REST G IP H R ER HR BB SO ERA WHIP GB:FB
Joakim Soria (R) 65 14 13.0 5 2 2 1 2 11 1.38 0.54 16:8
Last 3 3 3.1 1 0 0 0 1 5 0.00 0.60 2:1
Mark Melancon (R) 4 12 11.1 11 6 6 1 3 8 4.91 1.24 15:5
Last 3 3 3.0 2 0 0 0 1 3 0.00 1.00 2:2
Antonio Bastardo (L) 2 10 6.0 11 5 5 0 4 7 7.50 2.50 5:4
Last 3 3 2.0 4 3 3 0 2 1 13.50 3.00 3:1
William Hughes (R) 2 15 13.2 17 5 4 0 2 14 2.77 1.39 13:6
Last 3 3 2.2 6 1 1 0 0 2 4.50 2.25 2:3
Anthony Watson (L) 1 15 16.1 11 4 4 2 1 16 2.25 0.73 17:6
Last 3 3 3.1 1 0 0 0 1 3 0.00 0.60 4:1
Arquimedes Caminero (R) 1 14 13.1 10 6 5 0 4 15 3.46 1.05 14:4
Last 3 3 2.2 3 1 1 0 1 2 4.50 1.50 3:0
Bullpen Total 75 80 73.2 65 28 26 4 16 71 3.18 1.10 80:33
Last 3 18 17.0 17 5 5 0 6 16 2.65 1.35 16:8
Available Bullpen 73 51 44.0 44 18 17 2 11 40 3.48 1.25 49:23
Cincinnati All Starters REST G IP H R ER HR BB SO ERA WHIP GB:FB
Brandon Finnegan (L) 65 4 6.2 3 2 2 1 5 6 3.00 1.20 9:1
Raisel Iglesias (R) 25 1 5.0 5 3 3 0 2 4 5.40 1.40 5:2
David Bailey (R) 14 2 11.1 16 7 7 3 2 3 5.73 1.59 19:5


Pittsburgh All Starters REST G IP H R ER HR BB SO ERA WHIP GB:FB
Francisco Liriano (L) 5 5 32.1 14 7 7 2 15 34 1.97 0.90 33:9
Gerrit Cole (R) 1 6 35.2 30 11 9 2 9 39 2.31 1.09 47:10
Umpire G W-L AVG PIT STR B STR% STR BB K/BB HR O/U
Angel Hernandez 0 0-0 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.00 0.00 0-0


Last 10 Games
Date Score Line O/U Road Starter Home Starter
May 2, 2015 SD 4 - COL 2 W -132 U 7.0 Jorge De La Rosa (L) Brandon Morrow (R)
Apr 28, 2015 OAK 6 - LAA 2 W -141 O 7.5 Jered Weaver (R) Sonny Gray (R)
Apr 23, 2015 MIL 4 - CIN 2 W -108 U 8.0 David Bailey (R) Kyle Lohse (R)
Apr 12, 2015 AZ 4 - LAD 7 L +127 O 7.5 Donald Greinke (R) Joshua Collmenter (R)
Apr 8, 2015 HOU 0 - CLE 2 L +110 U 8.5 Carlos Carrasco (R) Scott Feldman (R)
Mar 19, 2015 STL 2 - NYM 7 - - Jonathon Niese (L) Jaime García (L)


Vs Reds
Date Score Line O/U Road Starter Home Starter
Apr 23, 2015 MIL 4 - CIN 2 W -108 U 8.0 David Bailey (R) Kyle Lohse (R)


Vs Pirates
Date Score Line O/U Road Starter Home Starter


Vs Anthony DeSclafani (R)
Date Score Line O/U Road Starter Home Starter


Vs Allan Burnett (R)
Date Score Line O/U Road Starter Home Starter

Betting Terminology

  • M/L: Closing moneyline odds
  • O/U: Closing total and odds
  • IP: Innings pitched by the starter
  • H: Hits allowed by the starter
  • R: Runs allowed by the starter
  • ER: Earned runs allowed by the starter
  • SO: Strikeouts thrown by the starter
  • BB: Walks allowed by the starter
  • HR: Home runs allowed by the starter
  • PIT: Total pitches thrown by the starter
  • P/IP: Pitches thrown per inning by the starter
  • GB:FB: Groundball - flyball ratio by the starter

Betting Terminology

  • W/L: Win-loss record (last 10)
  • Net $: $ won/lost based on $100 bets (last 10)
  • O/U: Over under record (last 10)
  • M/L: Closing moneyline odds for the game
  • O/U: Closing total and odds for the game
  • Away/Home Starter: Starting pitchers for the game
  • Last vs: The result last time the teams played
  • Schedule Starter: Expected starter for the upcoming game

Betting Terminology

Records below refer to the game # of all series across the season. Game 1, game 2 etc.

  • Overall: Team’s season record
  • After Win: Team’s record for the game immediately after a win
  • After Loss: Team’s record for the game immediately after a loss

Betting Terminology

  • Runs/9: Runs per nine innings
  • AVG: Batting average
  • Hits: Average hits per game
  • HR: Average home runs per game
  • BB: Average bases on balls (walks) per game
  • EB Hits: Average extra base hits per game
  • SB: Average stolen bases per game
  • OBP: On base percentage
  • R: Runs allowed
  • ER: Earned runs allowed
  • AVG: Batting average allowed
  • HR: Average home runs allowed
  • BB: Average bases on balls (walks) allowed
  • IP(S): Average innings pitched by starters
  • K(S): Average strikeouts by starters
  • K(B): Average strikeouts by bullpen
  • Rest(B): % of relievers that are available to pitch today
  • RF: Average team runs for. The run support pitchers are getting

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