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#26
I came, i saw, i nearly threw up.
Obama wants to push Min wage up to $9 bucks per hour
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#28
Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:
Minimum wage jobs are intended for students and entry level positions. Nothing more.
I'll say this again for DJbrow to have a deja vu:
"If you only aspire to gain a minimum wage job then you are a complete loser"
oh i see, entry level workers should be thankfull that they are making other's rich.
Minimum wage jobs are intended for students and entry level positions. Nothing more.
I'll say this again for DJbrow to have a deja vu:
"If you only aspire to gain a minimum wage job then you are a complete loser"
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#29
Quote Originally Posted by 14daroad:
please get a job at fox and dont post here anymore! Better yet try walking in the shoes of those you so despise. You make me sick.
Although minimum wages do increase the incomes of some poor families, the evidence indicates that their net effect is, if anything, to increase the proportions of families with incomes below or near the poverty line. Thus, it would appear that reductions in the proportions of families that are poor or near-poor should not be counted among the potential benefits of minimum wages.
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#30
Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:
"If you work full time, you shouldn't be in poverty," he later added, noting his proposal Tuesday night to increase the federal minimum wage to $9 an hour.
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Is he deliberately trying to increase inflation and devaluing the dollar further?
Or is he just trying to eliminate the 'value menu' at fast food joints?
Are you really as stupid as your posts suggests "If you work full time, you shouldn't be in poverty," he later added, noting his proposal Tuesday night to increase the federal minimum wage to $9 an hour.
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Is he deliberately trying to increase inflation and devaluing the dollar further?
Or is he just trying to eliminate the 'value menu' at fast food joints?
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#32
Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1:
oh i see, entry level workers should be thankfull that they are making other's rich.
oh i see, entry level workers should be thankfull that they are making other's rich.
Some businesses rake in money and some barely make ends meet. While many more fail because they can't escape a month out of the red.
Ironically, I'm the one who is the idiot huh?
This post shows exactly how some idiots fail to see the big picture.
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#34
Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1:
oh i see, entry level workers should be thankfull that they are making other's rich.
oh i see, entry level workers should be thankfull that they are making other's rich.
Why you chose to show everybody that you don't have a clue how the system works and ran and hid is beyond me.
At least stick around and tell us which social problems led you to believe you could stick your nose in a conversation you knew nothing about and not get exposed.
Well, at least fellow liberals like DJBROW, DL36, Darkhorse, stiln, etc and others have mysteriously given you a pass.
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#36
Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1:
Are you really as stupid as your posts suggests
Are you really as stupid as your posts suggests
it is a pretty split debate on this issue... there are those that think he is actually that stupid... while others think that he acts that stupid to get attention as the forums "village idiot"...
its takes a village
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#37
Quote Originally Posted by dl36:
funny how you call me a liberal?
funny how you call me a liberal?
same old bowlsit strategy... make a up a lie and try to pin it on me to argue against...
You ever hear of an old cliche' that says something about actions speaking louder than words?
That's why you get labeled a liberal by me. If you got along with a few more conservatives on here then I would be forced to change my mind.
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#38
Quote Originally Posted by dl36:
it is a pretty split debate on this issue... there are those that think he is actually that stupid... while others think that he acts that stupid to get attention as the forums "village idiot"...
its takes a village
So, DL36 on the issue of minimum wage, do you think I am right or wrong?
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#39
Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:
You ever hear of an old cliche' that says something about actions speaking louder than words?
That's why you get labeled a liberal by me. If you got along with a few more conservatives on here then I would be forced to change my mind.
You ever hear of an old cliche' that says something about actions speaking louder than words?
That's why you get labeled a liberal by me. If you got along with a few more conservatives on here then I would be forced to change my mind.
so getting along with conservatives makes you a conservative in how you think and vote?
Seriously...
do you honestly believe that?
Funniest thing is that I get along with everyone... not sure who I dont get along with here..
but once again typical bowslit... making up lies to pin on me and then try to argue against your lies...
Once you admit to your lies and drop your games we can have a civil dialog...
so the ball is in your court to admit to your lies and stop your infantile games... any time you wanna admit you are lying...
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#41
Of course giving people making 7.50 p/h (or whatever is) another buck p/h is not gonna pull them outta poverty.But to suggest that it will do more harm than good is hogwash.Unless of course you are talking bout the poor corporations and greedy bidness owners that want to keep every thin dime for themselves.
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#42
Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1:
Of course giving people making 7.50 p/h (or whatever is) another buck p/h is not gonna pull them outta poverty.But to suggest that it will do more harm than good is hogwash.Unless of course you are talking bout the poor corporations and greedy bidness owners that want to keep every thin dime for themselves.
Of course giving people making 7.50 p/h (or whatever is) another buck p/h is not gonna pull them outta poverty.But to suggest that it will do more harm than good is hogwash.Unless of course you are talking bout the poor corporations and greedy bidness owners that want to keep every thin dime for themselves.
No one is suggesting that large corporations could not absorb a small raise without repercussions.
What is naive on your part is when you forget about all of the small businesses that are barely out of the red each month and barely surviving as it is.
What value do these businesses get for that raise in wages they must pay out? Are the workers going to work 10% harder?
I'm pretty sure that for most small businesses they just have to pass on the cost to the consumers which continues to devalue the dollar.
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#43
Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:
So, DL36 on the issue of minimum wage, do you think I am right or wrong?
So, DL36 on the issue of minimum wage, do you think I am right or wrong?
right or wrong about what?
clearly state your point or points and I can tell you my view...
chances are i probably neither think you're all right or all wrong... It just how you think that it is the issue... typically it is how you think and how you act that people on the site react to...
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#44
Quote Originally Posted by dl36:
right or wrong about what?
clearly state your point or points and I can tell you my view...
chances are i probably neither think you're all right or all wrong... It just how you think that it is the issue... typically it is how you think and how you act that people on the site react to...
I can't believe I have to spell this out for you like this but oh well.
A. Minimum wage jobs are not intended to be seen as careers and only intended for students and entry level workers.
B. Increasing the cost of labor without adding value is not a good Idea.
I'm pretty sure that you're the only one that needed that spelled out for you.
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#45
Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:
No one is suggesting that large corporations could not absorb a small raise without repercussions.
What is naive on your part is when you forget about all of the small businesses that are barely out of the red each month and barely surviving as it is.
What value do these businesses get for that raise in wages they must pay out? Are the workers going to work 10% harder?
I'm pretty sure that for most small businesses they just have to pass on the cost to the consumers which continues to devalue the dollar.
If your biz margins are so slim that you cant raise the rate from 7.50 p/h to 8.50 then maybe you are in the wrong biz.
No one is suggesting that large corporations could not absorb a small raise without repercussions.
What is naive on your part is when you forget about all of the small businesses that are barely out of the red each month and barely surviving as it is.
What value do these businesses get for that raise in wages they must pay out? Are the workers going to work 10% harder?
I'm pretty sure that for most small businesses they just have to pass on the cost to the consumers which continues to devalue the dollar.
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#46
Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1:
If your biz margins are so slim that you cant raise the rate from 7.50 p/h to 8.50 then maybe you are in the wrong biz.
If your biz margins are so slim that you cant raise the rate from 7.50 p/h to 8.50 then maybe you are in the wrong biz.
What if the reason for not being able to absorb the cost is temporary?
I will ask again, What value do these businesses get for the added cost?
Will people work harder?
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#47
Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:
I can't believe I have to spell this out for you like this but oh well.
A. Minimum wage jobs are not intended to be seen as careers and only intended for students and entry level workers.
B. Increasing the cost of labor without adding value is not a good Idea.
I'm pretty sure that you're the only one that needed that spelled out for you.
I can't believe I have to spell this out for you like this but oh well.
A. Minimum wage jobs are not intended to be seen as careers and only intended for students and entry level workers.
B. Increasing the cost of labor without adding value is not a good Idea.
I'm pretty sure that you're the only one that needed that spelled out for you.
I do not understand the bolded statement...
Why are they only intended for the populations you mention? There are many many people out there who do not have the qualifications for "higher paying jobs" (for one reason or another) not just students and entry level workers. What do you propose those individuals do?
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#48
Quote Originally Posted by mattbrot:
I do not understand the bolded statement...
Why are they only intended for the populations you mention? There are many many people out there who do not have the qualifications for "higher paying jobs" (for one reason or another) not just students and entry level workers. What do you propose those individuals do?
Go to work on time.
Miss work only when necessary.
Follow job description well and look for creative ways to eliminate waste or improve production.
Get promoted within.
:Happens all the time!
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#49
Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:
Go to work on time.
Miss work only when necessary.
Follow job description well and look for creative ways to eliminate waste or improve production.
Get promoted within.
:Happens all the time!
Go to work on time.
Miss work only when necessary.
Follow job description well and look for creative ways to eliminate waste or improve production.
Get promoted within.
:Happens all the time!
I get that but our society is dependent on all types of people. Not everyone can be PhDs, MDs, lawyers, etc... we need the other end of the spectrum to survive as well. So yes -- there needs to be a place for older individuals with very limited education and little hope for career advancement but are willing to work hard to earn a living -- even if that living is just minimum wage.
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#50
Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:
Go to work on time.
Miss work only when necessary.
Follow job description well and look for creative ways to eliminate waste or improve production.
Get promoted within.
:Happens all the time!
Go to work on time.
Miss work only when necessary.
Follow job description well and look for creative ways to eliminate waste or improve production.
Get promoted within.
:Happens all the time!
another way to ask.
What do you propose the older individuals do who are not promoted from within? Should they not try to get minimum wage jobs? Do you prefer they go on welfare? just does not make sense to me.
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