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    Posted: May. 8, 2012 - 10:42 PM ET #426

    Lol Vision, get out of my thread buster for real. Someone report this clown she's getting offensive for real now. Whoring? No one is whoring here buster. We're trying to make money. And it's the clowns like you that make it possible. Who you on tonight B?
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    Lol Vision, get out of my thread buster for real. Someone report this clown she's getting offensive for real now. Whoring? No one is whoring here buster. We're trying to make money. And it's the clowns like you that make it possible. Who you on tonight B?
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2012 - 10:44 PM ET #427

    Lol look at the Atl game, just what we talked about earlier. They adjusted this total up to make it harder for the over to hit. 173. I think we may see the same thing with the lakers game watch it land on 198 or something.
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    Lol look at the Atl game, just what we talked about earlier. They adjusted this total up to make it harder for the over to hit. 173. I think we may see the same thing with the lakers game watch it land on 198 or something.
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2012 - 10:47 PM ET #428

    Vision, you're nasty. Maybe you could tell us all what your problem is? Why are you spending your time in this thread? It's obviously not a productive reason, so why then?

    It looks like you are the one starving for attention. I have plenty. I have a gf that drives me nuts, a great family, a child. I have work, and hobbies, and trying to figure this out on top of it.

    It's pathetic losers that comb through forums looking to hate that are the attention person. Beat it you buster
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    Vision, you're nasty. Maybe you could tell us all what your problem is? Why are you spending your time in this thread? It's obviously not a productive reason, so why then?

    It looks like you are the one starving for attention. I have plenty. I have a gf that drives me nuts, a great family, a child. I have work, and hobbies, and trying to figure this out on top of it.

    It's pathetic losers that comb through forums looking to hate that are the attention person. Beat it you buster
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2012 - 10:49 PM ET #429

    Quote Originally Posted by CZECH_RAZOR:

    Look at Atl second half so far.  And Indi and the over second half. 

    The second half "system" that I was working before got torn down yesterday, but honestly it was working well before and it's going back up very soon.  It needed revision but it's almost ready.
      You're MO very much like hers. Of the first 403 posts on this thread, 240 are yours, give or take a couple.  Then, the first night 1-3, second night 0 plays!  I wouldn't want another 1-3 night either, if i was trying to sell some sort of bullshit "system".  It was getting boring in here, but you will entertain for another couple days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CZECH_RAZOR:

    Look at Atl second half so far.  And Indi and the over second half. 

    The second half "system" that I was working before got torn down yesterday, but honestly it was working well before and it's going back up very soon.  It needed revision but it's almost ready.
      You're MO very much like hers. Of the first 403 posts on this thread, 240 are yours, give or take a couple.  Then, the first night 1-3, second night 0 plays!  I wouldn't want another 1-3 night either, if i was trying to sell some sort of bullshit "system".  It was getting boring in here, but you will entertain for another couple days.
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2012 - 10:50 PM ET #430

    If this thread was crap some would check it out and then leave and no come back. That's what I do when I see a bogus thread. We have tons of views coming in because there's something of value here and people are interested. Ride out buster you're not welcome anymore
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    If this thread was crap some would check it out and then leave and no come back. That's what I do when I see a bogus thread. We have tons of views coming in because there's something of value here and people are interested. Ride out buster you're not welcome anymore
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2012 - 10:51 PM ET #431

    Kobe with a big airball to start things off. Lol. Not hating on Kobe though he's the man.
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    Kobe with a big airball to start things off. Lol. Not hating on Kobe though he's the man.
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2012 - 10:55 PM ET #432

    HEY RODSUCKMYDIK(rodwoman)..u seem to have a mouth for it..what dont you show ur picks and let us be judge of how miserable your low life is..talk to talk but is more like zero walk..come on dude bring it..show your cards MR know it all..
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    HEY RODSUCKMYDIK(rodwoman)..u seem to have a mouth for it..what dont you show ur picks and let us be judge of how miserable your low life is..talk to talk but is more like zero walk..come on dude bring it..show your cards MR know it all..
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2012 - 10:55 PM ET #433

    Man the unders just continue to kill it in these playoffs. Someone posted earlier I think 18-10 in regulation and looking like 2-1 headed into this last game. That's the only reason I laid off the indi over even though the indicators were there. That's where we're not supposed to be biased but I was. I'm scared to take any overs in this round of the playoffs.
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    Man the unders just continue to kill it in these playoffs. Someone posted earlier I think 18-10 in regulation and looking like 2-1 headed into this last game. That's the only reason I laid off the indi over even though the indicators were there. That's where we're not supposed to be biased but I was. I'm scared to take any overs in this round of the playoffs.
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2012 - 10:57 PM ET #434

    Quote Originally Posted by CZECH_RAZOR:

    And Rod just made a very interesting comment - there are no systems. That's funny Rod cuz I'm pretty sure Vegas uses a "system" to set the lines in the first place. Whether its computer algorithms or something else, there are systems that work in sports and cards and stocks. You just have to figure it out. From what I've seen so far sports as a whole are pretty mathematical and I do believe there is a system that can exploit the human element (betting %, etc) in the line action.
      Can't wait to see it!  Haven't seen one yet in 50 years of this!  But you sound like just the guy to figure it out. You're "pretty sure" Vegas uses a "system" to set lines? You have no clue what they do to set the lines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CZECH_RAZOR:

    And Rod just made a very interesting comment - there are no systems. That's funny Rod cuz I'm pretty sure Vegas uses a "system" to set the lines in the first place. Whether its computer algorithms or something else, there are systems that work in sports and cards and stocks. You just have to figure it out. From what I've seen so far sports as a whole are pretty mathematical and I do believe there is a system that can exploit the human element (betting %, etc) in the line action.
      Can't wait to see it!  Haven't seen one yet in 50 years of this!  But you sound like just the guy to figure it out. You're "pretty sure" Vegas uses a "system" to set lines? You have no clue what they do to set the lines.
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2012 - 10:58 PM ET #435

    Rod is a buster guys pure and simple. It's called learning from my mistakes. I forced things last night and decided not to do that tonight. Instead we're talkin about ways to do this right in the future. I wanted to post indi over and also Denver but I didn't.

    Haters are so childish. If I fired away again tonight they'd say see he's trying to please everyone! And if I lay off they criticize that also.

    Beat it Rod you're not welcome here either. Keep coming around and we're all gonna slam you like the donkey you are
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    Rod is a buster guys pure and simple. It's called learning from my mistakes. I forced things last night and decided not to do that tonight. Instead we're talkin about ways to do this right in the future. I wanted to post indi over and also Denver but I didn't.

    Haters are so childish. If I fired away again tonight they'd say see he's trying to please everyone! And if I lay off they criticize that also.

    Beat it Rod you're not welcome here either. Keep coming around and we're all gonna slam you like the donkey you are
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2012 - 11:00 PM ET #436

    Enlighten us then Rod since you have 50 years' experience and still find the need to comb my thread. LOL

    Guys I really didn't want to talk smack in this thread but wow. I do believe we have an example of the quintessential buster here.

    Rod we may get this thing to 70% by fading your plays. What are they for tomorrow?
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    Enlighten us then Rod since you have 50 years' experience and still find the need to comb my thread. LOL

    Guys I really didn't want to talk smack in this thread but wow. I do believe we have an example of the quintessential buster here.

    Rod we may get this thing to 70% by fading your plays. What are they for tomorrow?
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2012 - 11:03 PM ET #437

    Quote Originally Posted by CZECH_RAZOR:

    If this thread was crap some would check it out and then leave and no come back. That's what I do when I see a bogus thread. We have tons of views coming in because there's something of value here and people are interested. Ride out buster you're not welcome anymore
      Entertainment.  Zero value.  Except you did post Denver as a personal play, which will give some people value when Lakers kick their ass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CZECH_RAZOR:

    If this thread was crap some would check it out and then leave and no come back. That's what I do when I see a bogus thread. We have tons of views coming in because there's something of value here and people are interested. Ride out buster you're not welcome anymore
      Entertainment.  Zero value.  Except you did post Denver as a personal play, which will give some people value when Lakers kick their ass.
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2012 - 11:05 PM ET #438

    Quote Originally Posted by armando27:

    HEY RODSUCKMYDIK(rodwoman)..u seem to have a mouth for it..what dont you show ur picks and let us be judge of how miserable your low life is..talk to talk but is more like zero walk..come on dude bring it..show your cards MR know it all..
      You show me yours, and I'll show you mine, Mando..........OK?
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    Quote Originally Posted by armando27:

    HEY RODSUCKMYDIK(rodwoman)..u seem to have a mouth for it..what dont you show ur picks and let us be judge of how miserable your low life is..talk to talk but is more like zero walk..come on dude bring it..show your cards MR know it all..
      You show me yours, and I'll show you mine, Mando..........OK?
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2012 - 11:07 PM ET #439

    czech bud..i think you now are being way too conservative about it..you had a losing day(who cares everyones had one) but it seems to me you dont wanna to release a pick until youre 100% confident..those are gonna be real hard especially in playoffs..dont let those punks ruin you bro..YOU HAD 2H ATL PK..that was a winner..i went for over and that and i thank you..so dont be afraid what heat you get when you lose..trust me ive had losing day and always stuck to my picks win/lose BUT i had and will never let anyone put me down..keep it up bro youre doing fine but DO YOU..dont care what those punks will say..
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    czech bud..i think you now are being way too conservative about it..you had a losing day(who cares everyones had one) but it seems to me you dont wanna to release a pick until youre 100% confident..those are gonna be real hard especially in playoffs..dont let those punks ruin you bro..YOU HAD 2H ATL PK..that was a winner..i went for over and that and i thank you..so dont be afraid what heat you get when you lose..trust me ive had losing day and always stuck to my picks win/lose BUT i had and will never let anyone put me down..keep it up bro youre doing fine but DO YOU..dont care what those punks will say..
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2012 - 11:08 PM ET #440

    You know what's funny is Rod is only right about one thing, that this thread may not interest people forever, but that's only cuz eventually people can take it or leave it but either way they have the tools to work it themselves, without needing the thread anymore.

    If I was a selfish person I would have tried to post 60% for a while without sharing any details, and then if it worked I'd try and go tout. But instead I chose to put it out there for everyone.

    I don't know why I did this, but really it was so we could discuss my ideas and learn and improve together. I'm the first to admit that I have things to learn, but certainly not from some old man that hates in my thread.

    I'd venture to say that Rod has never achieved 60%, otherwise he wouldn't be in here. But guess what Rod I've been doing it for a while now and know next to nothing about sports. Doesn't that frustrate you? It would me, if I were in your shoes.

    Maybe you should swallow your pride and see for yourself of this works or not.
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    You know what's funny is Rod is only right about one thing, that this thread may not interest people forever, but that's only cuz eventually people can take it or leave it but either way they have the tools to work it themselves, without needing the thread anymore.

    If I was a selfish person I would have tried to post 60% for a while without sharing any details, and then if it worked I'd try and go tout. But instead I chose to put it out there for everyone.

    I don't know why I did this, but really it was so we could discuss my ideas and learn and improve together. I'm the first to admit that I have things to learn, but certainly not from some old man that hates in my thread.

    I'd venture to say that Rod has never achieved 60%, otherwise he wouldn't be in here. But guess what Rod I've been doing it for a while now and know next to nothing about sports. Doesn't that frustrate you? It would me, if I were in your shoes.

    Maybe you should swallow your pride and see for yourself of this works or not.
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2012 - 11:13 PM ET #441

    Yeah you're right Armando thanks.

    Alright I'm not responding to any more haters. Clogging up the thread.

    You're right Armando I'm being conservative. I was just about to post Denver though until I saw the late line move. That was the only reason I didn't post it.

    We'll get it hammered out though
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    Yeah you're right Armando thanks.

    Alright I'm not responding to any more haters. Clogging up the thread.

    You're right Armando I'm being conservative. I was just about to post Denver though until I saw the late line move. That was the only reason I didn't post it.

    We'll get it hammered out though
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2012 - 11:15 PM ET #442

    We had it right on chi and Denver both, at least so far. System needs a tweak or 2 but we're on the right track for sure.
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    We had it right on chi and Denver both, at least so far. System needs a tweak or 2 but we're on the right track for sure.
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2012 - 11:21 PM ET #443

    YOU SEE..U HAD 2H ATL(WINNER) AND DENVER IS LOOKING MIGHTY GOOD(WINNER/LOSER) THOSE ARE YOUR PICKS..i think because of all heat your getting you are now looking for a perfect record system but you will never find it bro..its vegas were talking about..we aint nostradamus..but trust me your system looks very good..you need to trust YOURSELF for your system to be successful(like you said 60%) in my book 60% is successful..relax, take a break(no pressure), and come back strong win or lose..for you to be 60% or higher successful you need to be confident in yourself and dont let those kids put you down..DO YOU bro..
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    YOU SEE..U HAD 2H ATL(WINNER) AND DENVER IS LOOKING MIGHTY GOOD(WINNER/LOSER) THOSE ARE YOUR PICKS..i think because of all heat your getting you are now looking for a perfect record system but you will never find it bro..its vegas were talking about..we aint nostradamus..but trust me your system looks very good..you need to trust YOURSELF for your system to be successful(like you said 60%) in my book 60% is successful..relax, take a break(no pressure), and come back strong win or lose..for you to be 60% or higher successful you need to be confident in yourself and dont let those kids put you down..DO YOU bro..
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2012 - 11:28 PM ET #444

    BTW czech you also had 2h pacers(winner) but you passed on it when i ask you for 2h orl/ind plays..i went on over instead and won BUT both were winners..again DO YOU bro..
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    BTW czech you also had 2h pacers(winner) but you passed on it when i ask you for 2h orl/ind plays..i went on over instead and won BUT both were winners..again DO YOU bro..
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2012 - 11:28 PM ET #445

    Win Lose or Draw I appreciate the effort you put into this thread 
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    Win Lose or Draw I appreciate the effort you put into this thread 
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2012 - 11:28 PM ET #446

    Thanks Armando you're right again. I for one am very happy with 60%. If you read post 303 I laid out a plan to $100,000 starting with $3k. It's gonna take a little while but at 60% is not gonna be a problem. That's the challenge, the 60% part. The rest is fairly easy with a little discipline. We could be there by this time next year.
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    Thanks Armando you're right again. I for one am very happy with 60%. If you read post 303 I laid out a plan to $100,000 starting with $3k. It's gonna take a little while but at 60% is not gonna be a problem. That's the challenge, the 60% part. The rest is fairly easy with a little discipline. We could be there by this time next year.
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2012 - 11:31 PM ET #447

    so far you coulda been 2-0 with 1pending thats looking like a winner..block those punks comments and lets look for a 2h play..if you pass thats fine..
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    so far you coulda been 2-0 with 1pending thats looking like a winner..block those punks comments and lets look for a 2h play..if you pass thats fine..
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2012 - 11:38 PM ET #448

    What rod said about there being no system doesn't make sense. Vegas uses a system to set the lines. If they didn't have one they'd get rapaged.

    I understand they have an advantage with the juice, but I think we can counter this due to the human element.

    Some have said that Vegas only wants to even the money on both sides. This brings up an interesting concept- the line doesn't have to be where it should at all, according to where the total is gonna land. The line just has to be where it needs to be based on PERCEPTION, which determines where the money falls.

    This is important because that's where the sharps exploit them, and where we do also since we follow the sharps. Say Vegas determines the true line on Lakers to be -3? They know though that at this line all the money will be on Lakers.

    So how about this...say they know that even at -6, 2/3 of the $ is still gonna be on lakers? This is an extreme example of course, but it's an interesting concept. They put it at -6 then and win 2 ways. First, it helps balance the money better, and second they KNOW that lakers are really a dog at this price, meaning they are favored to win all the Lakers $.

    If I thought the lines were where they were supposed to be based on the outcome of the game, I wouldn't sports bet. But this isn't the case. The lines are in many ways determined by THE PUBLIC. This provides us a means to exploit them.

    I guarantee Vegas is rooting for Denver tonight. I want to be on the side Vegas is rooting for.
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    What rod said about there being no system doesn't make sense. Vegas uses a system to set the lines. If they didn't have one they'd get rapaged.

    I understand they have an advantage with the juice, but I think we can counter this due to the human element.

    Some have said that Vegas only wants to even the money on both sides. This brings up an interesting concept- the line doesn't have to be where it should at all, according to where the total is gonna land. The line just has to be where it needs to be based on PERCEPTION, which determines where the money falls.

    This is important because that's where the sharps exploit them, and where we do also since we follow the sharps. Say Vegas determines the true line on Lakers to be -3? They know though that at this line all the money will be on Lakers.

    So how about this...say they know that even at -6, 2/3 of the $ is still gonna be on lakers? This is an extreme example of course, but it's an interesting concept. They put it at -6 then and win 2 ways. First, it helps balance the money better, and second they KNOW that lakers are really a dog at this price, meaning they are favored to win all the Lakers $.

    If I thought the lines were where they were supposed to be based on the outcome of the game, I wouldn't sports bet. But this isn't the case. The lines are in many ways determined by THE PUBLIC. This provides us a means to exploit them.

    I guarantee Vegas is rooting for Denver tonight. I want to be on the side Vegas is rooting for.
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2012 - 11:41 PM ET #449

    Actually I coulda been 2-1-1 with chi and Denver pending. Liked Atl -1.5, Atl -1 second half, indi -10, indi over, and chi and Denver. Those were all my leans today although nothing qualified system wise. I didn't talk about indi in the thread until post game but I already explained why I liked them.
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    Actually I coulda been 2-1-1 with chi and Denver pending. Liked Atl -1.5, Atl -1 second half, indi -10, indi over, and chi and Denver. Those were all my leans today although nothing qualified system wise. I didn't talk about indi in the thread until post game but I already explained why I liked them.
     
     
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    Posted: May. 8, 2012 - 11:52 PM ET #450

    exactly my point..chi(lets declare it winner) denver pending. it sounds to me you woulda ended up way higher 60% today..its playoffs and with few games left there will be few games if any that will fit your system perfectly..with few games left it all goes back to how confident you are and today sir you coulda had a heck of a day!!!! 
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    exactly my point..chi(lets declare it winner) denver pending. it sounds to me you woulda ended up way higher 60% today..its playoffs and with few games left there will be few games if any that will fit your system perfectly..with few games left it all goes back to how confident you are and today sir you coulda had a heck of a day!!!! 
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