Posted:
#251
Anything under over what's has been hapening
Czech's Bringing Down The Books 101
Posted:
#252
Hey my friend,
We followed you but no problem at all there will be wins and losses. But even following your system the over was not a system play as well so dont blame the system at the moment. Remember the last couple of minutes it went down half point so is no play.
But well, let's apply some discipline and it seems that your system works well mainly for the rule 3. Not you not me, no other person was confident with the over and you know because of the 3 games went under. But everyday we learn something... Let's keep the discipline 100%!!
We followed you but no problem at all there will be wins and losses. But even following your system the over was not a system play as well so dont blame the system at the moment. Remember the last couple of minutes it went down half point so is no play.
But well, let's apply some discipline and it seems that your system works well mainly for the rule 3. Not you not me, no other person was confident with the over and you know because of the 3 games went under. But everyday we learn something... Let's keep the discipline 100%!!
Posted:
#253
Thanks Guaji i appreciate that.
Guys let's take an honest look at the game according to the system rules, not for my sake, but to get an idea for future games.
As Guaji pointed out, the total went back down late, disqualifying it. This also disqualified my poor second half decision.
Utah, on the other hand, technically was a play, because the line did go down, in spite of a big majority on SA, and it never went back up. Furthermore, the second half Utah play as a result qualified also, even though I didn't take it, and that hit as well.
Honestly, I'm still trying to hammer out whether a full point or more is needed for a line move to be considered a play. I've been playing with the idea that the more skewed the public % is, the less of a reverse line move is needed. Does this make sense?
Posted:
#254
Hey guys,
What would you guys say the system record on that game should be?
I personally wagered 3 plays, but picked 4, utah and over, and utah and over second half.
I think had Utah not covered second half, that the haters in here would have expected me to post that loss, since I mentioned it, even though I didn't bet it. But the truth was the play qualified.
What do you guys think? Also, I've been trying to decide if the over even was a system play to begin with, but I think it was based on the line movement, and the public liking the under. So that was a loss.
I have the system at 2-2 for the game but if anyone has a problem with these numbers let me know. I think 2-2 is fair considering how the whole discussion went but if you guys think it should be 1-2 then that's fine.
Posted:
#255
Lol the best would be to pot 2-0 for the game, Utah and second half Utah. If we can disqualify the total pre-game, then we disqualify the second half pick as well.
Of course I'm not doing this, although it's kind of true. But I think that would be cheating, since I made the executive decision to qualify it. I personally think 2-2 is fair, since that's what the system told me and I'm the one who created it, but I want to know what you guys think.
Posted:
#256
**effective immediately**
I'm ripping out the "second half" part of the system. It worked well for me so far but I have seen some flaws in it while studying it today, and as of right now won't be making any second half plays.
The main "for the game" system is sound though guys, believe it or not. That went 1-1 on this game, or 1-0, or 0-0, depending on how you look at it. Even 1-1 is fine though.
Posted:
#258
Listen, before anyone says anything, I've decided to post 1-2 for this game.
This is as hard on myself as I can be, especially since the system did NOT produce 1-2 on this game, but I did, and that's what I wagered.
If you've followed the entire post, I'm on a program to get to $100,000, and I'm tracking my bankroll and everything here, so that's what I'm recording. That's my fault though, not the system's. I personally think the system went 2-2 tonight, but I went 1-2 on wagers.
14-8 YTD
1-2 today
5-2 this thread
Posted:
#259
Guaji,
It's funny how I screwed myself tonight. Read my sub-rules of engagement on the first page. One of them is only line moves of a full point or more qualify.
According to my own damn system this game was a no play and my record should show 0-0 on it.
I think I bustered it up today guys, but in defense of the system, we need to be able to track ITS RESULTS, NOT MINE.
What do you think? What should we record for the system's performance on the Utah game???
I'm honestly thinking the game pushed anyways, and nothing qualified, so should be 0-0, although that seems like a cop-out for me, and the systme would still be on a W9 streak also, and that doesn't seem fair either.
I honestly don't know what to do on this never had this problem before.
Posted:
#262
Quote Originally Posted by CZECH_RAZOR:
Hey guys,
Hey guys,
What would you guys say the system record on that game should be?
I personally wagered 3 plays, but picked 4, utah and over, and utah and over second half.
I think had Utah not covered second half, that the haters in here would have expected me to post that loss, since I mentioned it, even though I didn't bet it. But the truth was the play qualified.
What do you guys think? Also, I've been trying to decide if the over even was a system play to begin with, but I think it was based on the line movement, and the public liking the under. So that was a loss.
I have the system at 2-2 for the game but if anyone has a problem with these numbers let me know. I think 2-2 is fair considering how the whole discussion went but if you guys think it should be 1-2 then that's fine.
Czech,,,count all posted plays no matter what. If you go back to choosing games posted that lost people will eat you up.
This doesn't mean they have to be posted as system plays.
Go back and figure out which games were system plays and reflect them on your system record.
the ones that were disqualified as system plays, add them to you forum record.
ya dig
Posted:
#264
I think you should do what you do and keep doing it. Don't let other people f you. This is your system... I know you like peoples opinions but then as you can see the thread gets flooded with random opinions and stats.
I am the worst offender with money management problems. People here always want action and as soon as you win they want another game and another game and even if you win those... they want another... then you lose its like oh shit you suck. Then you get the random people that come in here and post their plays for no reason whats so ever.
My advice KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID. Play what your system tells you to play. If it doesn't look like a play then don't play it. Like you said you want to win 100k but you need to win it in a week. This is why so many people like me and others fail at gambling. They lose one game, then they find the next bet and double the bet and lose again. Then they feel like shit and want other people to bail them out.
I don't bet a lot of money. I will be honest.... I put 100 dollars in and I was at 2k. Then I started changing my bets...betting more and all it took was 3-4 losses and a bad day and it got me back to 700 dollars. Its not monopoly money and sometimes when its in your account it feels like it. You have to picture in real life... what could I buy with 200 dollars....shit tha'ts a lot of money maybe i should lower my bet.
Just my two cents. I'm retarded though so its pointless. I'm just trying to learn from my mistakes
Posted:
#265
Hey edward thanks man for the info. I don't quite follow the last sentence though. In retrospect I think we can all see how the system gave us a no-play, but I still don't know what to do with the record.
I posted Utah second half as a system play right after the second half started, but don't know if I can post this as a play since it had already started.
I'm thoroughly confused on what I should post.
I posted Utah second half as a system play right after the second half started, but don't know if I can post this as a play since it had already started.
I'm thoroughly confused on what I should post.
Posted:
#267
Okay, I made a decision. I'm taking myself out of the equation. I'm already embarrassed by all of this, but we're looking at the system so here it goes.
The system went 2-2. Utah went down even though everyone was on the spurs, so I qualified it. We also established there was a higher-than-average % on the under, and the total went up, so I qualified the over.
So system went 1-1 for the game, and according to those plays qualified Utah and over second half, which also went 1-1.
Total results for the game were 2-2.
Memphis +1.5 pending.
The system went 2-2. Utah went down even though everyone was on the spurs, so I qualified it. We also established there was a higher-than-average % on the under, and the total went up, so I qualified the over.
So system went 1-1 for the game, and according to those plays qualified Utah and over second half, which also went 1-1.
Total results for the game were 2-2.
Memphis +1.5 pending.
Posted:
#269
Quote Originally Posted by CZECH_RAZOR:
Hey edward thanks man for the info. I don't quite follow the last sentence though. In retrospect I think we can all see how the system gave us a no-play, but I still don't know what to do with the record.
I posted Utah second half as a system play right after the second half started, but don't know if I can post this as a play since it had already started.
I'm thoroughly confused on what I should post.
Hey edward thanks man for the info. I don't quite follow the last sentence though. In retrospect I think we can all see how the system gave us a no-play, but I still don't know what to do with the record.
I posted Utah second half as a system play right after the second half started, but don't know if I can post this as a play since it had already started.
I'm thoroughly confused on what I should post.
Czech,,,,,you can post personal opinions and non system plays you play in a separate record
Example
System Record:5-0
Thread Record 0-5
your system stays good because the plays don't qualify, but because you posted them you need to track them for the sake of the thread. so track them as Thread Record. You'll have to figure out which ones were system plays, then you will have your system record. Then figure out which ones were none system plays and put them in the thread record, or posted plays, call it whatever you want.
Im only saying this because people will come in and see this and the haters will come out.
Posted:
#272
Hey btw OMAHAEMPIRE thanks for the insight man and I agree with you. Thanks for joining the discussion.
Guys I buster it up routinely and will post opinions on games that lose regularly. That's why I shared the system, so we could judge IT together, not me.
This is a learning experience for me. There will always be haters out there that will disagree with anything but you be the judge. If you read the rules I set forth, and then look at the pre-game line action, I think both Utah and the over did qualify in every department, except for the fact that neither moved a full point from the open.
With all things considered I think 2-2 is a fair shake but you guys be the judge. Any discussion on it is welcomed.
Guys I buster it up routinely and will post opinions on games that lose regularly. That's why I shared the system, so we could judge IT together, not me.
This is a learning experience for me. There will always be haters out there that will disagree with anything but you be the judge. If you read the rules I set forth, and then look at the pre-game line action, I think both Utah and the over did qualify in every department, except for the fact that neither moved a full point from the open.
With all things considered I think 2-2 is a fair shake but you guys be the judge. Any discussion on it is welcomed.
with the letter D, for Discipline.
Posted:
#275
Honestly though CZECH, If the spurs over hit, imagine how this conversation goes differently? Everyone's attitude would be different towards you. You won't win them all, if you did you sure as hell wouldn't be on covers posting. I played the over and lost, big deal. I wasn't expecting a win. Usually win a thread gets too many people shit falls apart. I think you will be fine. You probably had 1 chance to win most of these people over. So maybe tomorrow things will work.
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