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    Opening Game Favorite Chase 246-7 for 2009

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    revguy800
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2010 - 12:25 AM ET #226

    Im looking dont  look like any new things till friday?
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    Im looking dont  look like any new things till friday?
     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2010 - 12:42 AM ET #227

    Revguy,

    Yeah, I don't see any new series for tomorrow.  Should have a few for friday.

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    Revguy,

    Yeah, I don't see any new series for tomorrow.  Should have a few for friday.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2010 - 12:58 AM ET #228

    awesome thanks for your help i played seatle and i also played detroit tonight .great info for the other system too thanks
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    awesome thanks for your help i played seatle and i also played detroit tonight .great info for the other system too thanks
     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2010 - 1:12 AM ET #229

    Nice hit on Detroit.  I know that one was a heartbreaker for a lot of people. Always good to be on the right side in games like that
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    Nice hit on Detroit.  I know that one was a heartbreaker for a lot of people. Always good to be on the right side in games like that
     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2010 - 9:05 AM ET #230

    thanks yes to many times I am on the otherside of that lol lets keep it going
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    thanks yes to many times I am on the otherside of that lol lets keep it going
     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2010 - 11:02 PM ET #231

    rizz, you see anything for tommorrow?
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    rizz, you see anything for tommorrow?
     
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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2010 - 3:07 AM ET #232

    Plays for 4/23:

    System record 22-0-1

    Additional series 3-0-0

     

    Series #28 (game 1)  7:10      bal @ BOS -225, RL

    Series #29 (game 1) 7:10        tor  @ TB -225, RL

    Series #30 (game 1)  8:05       pit @ HOU -160

    Series #31 (game 1) 10:05       cle @ OAK -146

    Series #32 (game 1) 9:40        PHI -175 @ ariz

    Series 33 (game 1)  10:15        stl   @ SF -160

    BOL

    Game 1 wins =19

    Game 2 wins = 2

    Game 3 wins = 1

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    Plays for 4/23:

    System record 22-0-1

    Additional series 3-0-0

     

    Series #28 (game 1)  7:10      bal @ BOS -225, RL

    Series #29 (game 1) 7:10        tor  @ TB -225, RL

    Series #30 (game 1)  8:05       pit @ HOU -160

    Series #31 (game 1) 10:05       cle @ OAK -146

    Series #32 (game 1) 9:40        PHI -175 @ ariz

    Series 33 (game 1)  10:15        stl   @ SF -160

    BOL

    Game 1 wins =19

    Game 2 wins = 2

    Game 3 wins = 1

     
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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2010 - 3:57 AM ET #233

    HI  therizz

    i like ur H-Fav. chase
    and interleague series is not good for ur home chase
    especially, if we chase the NL teams
    based on my research
    from 2007-09, u would make profit only by backing AL underdogs @ home....

    plus
    from your backtest, i've found one thing interesting
    average w% for home fav. (-150 or more) @ 1st home game hits aorund 65%
    but how is the average odds for those game?

    if average market line is lower than 65% W (i.e. -180, -175, -170....), we could make profit just by backing every 1st home game

    my English is poor, hope u can understand what i wrote

    me and my friend only have data for 2009
    I've added u as a friend
    if u can send me your database from 2003-09, i could come up the conclusion soon and share with u guys

    BOL to all
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    HI  therizz

    i like ur H-Fav. chase
    and interleague series is not good for ur home chase
    especially, if we chase the NL teams
    based on my research
    from 2007-09, u would make profit only by backing AL underdogs @ home....

    plus
    from your backtest, i've found one thing interesting
    average w% for home fav. (-150 or more) @ 1st home game hits aorund 65%
    but how is the average odds for those game?

    if average market line is lower than 65% W (i.e. -180, -175, -170....), we could make profit just by backing every 1st home game

    my English is poor, hope u can understand what i wrote

    me and my friend only have data for 2009
    I've added u as a friend
    if u can send me your database from 2003-09, i could come up the conclusion soon and share with u guys

    BOL to all
     
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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2010 - 10:38 AM ET #234

    5858,

    You would have to PM me with your email for me to send you the database.  I am not sure what the average opening line is for these series but I could figure it out...  I am guessing prob in -165-170 range off the top of my head.  Yeah based on the losses IL play would have caused the last couple of years we have decided to exclude those series.  Just so you know their is data back to 1999 on covers also by just looking at the team section and past results.  When I was first getting started I loaded all the teams into excel, so that may be helpful also.

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    5858,

    You would have to PM me with your email for me to send you the database.  I am not sure what the average opening line is for these series but I could figure it out...  I am guessing prob in -165-170 range off the top of my head.  Yeah based on the losses IL play would have caused the last couple of years we have decided to exclude those series.  Just so you know their is data back to 1999 on covers also by just looking at the team section and past results.  When I was first getting started I loaded all the teams into excel, so that may be helpful also.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2010 - 11:25 AM ET #235

    Quote Originally Posted by therizz:

    Plays for 4/23:

    System record 22-0-1

    Additional series 3-0-0

     

    Series #28 (game 1)  7:10      bal @ BOS -225, RL

    Series #29 (game 1) 7:10        tor  @ TB -225, RL

    Series #30 (game 1)  8:05       pit @ HOU -160

    Series #31 (game 1) 10:05       cle @ OAK -146

    Series #32 (game 1) 9:40        PHI -175 @ ariz

    Series 33 (game 1)  10:15        stl   @ SF -160

    BOL

    Game 1 wins =19

    Game 2 wins = 2

    Game 3 wins = 1

    Just wanted to make a few comments about these games.  I am thinking of trying to incorporate some filters on these series using teamrankings.  The series that would be filtered out in this case would be TB and SF because the teams they are playing have a higher rating on the road then they have at home???  The problem is it is still very early in the year so there is not a lot of data.  Anyone have any thoughts on potentially using this as a filter or these series in particular??

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    Plays for 4/23:

    System record 22-0-1

    Additional series 3-0-0

     

    Series #28 (game 1)  7:10      bal @ BOS -225, RL

    Series #29 (game 1) 7:10        tor  @ TB -225, RL

    Series #30 (game 1)  8:05       pit @ HOU -160

    Series #31 (game 1) 10:05       cle @ OAK -146

    Series #32 (game 1) 9:40        PHI -175 @ ariz

    Series 33 (game 1)  10:15        stl   @ SF -160

    BOL

    Game 1 wins =19

    Game 2 wins = 2

    Game 3 wins = 1

    Just wanted to make a few comments about these games.  I am thinking of trying to incorporate some filters on these series using teamrankings.  The series that would be filtered out in this case would be TB and SF because the teams they are playing have a higher rating on the road then they have at home???  The problem is it is still very early in the year so there is not a lot of data.  Anyone have any thoughts on potentially using this as a filter or these series in particular??

     
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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2010 - 11:31 AM ET #236

    The other filter I was thinking about incorporating is to not play on a team to win that is under 50% for their last 10 games unless they have won 2/3 or 3/4... This filter would also eliminate the SF series if we were to use a double filter???

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    The other filter I was thinking about incorporating is to not play on a team to win that is under 50% for their last 10 games unless they have won 2/3 or 3/4... This filter would also eliminate the SF series if we were to use a double filter???

     
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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2010 - 6:17 PM ET #237

    quick regarding this filter about the last 10, is there a way to back test this potential filter?

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    quick regarding this filter about the last 10, is there a way to back test this potential filter?

     
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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2010 - 6:30 PM ET #238

    More just kind of bouncing ideas of off people, but I can look at that particular filter this weekend.  Of the series tonight SF makes me a bit nervous only in that if they don't hit tonight with their ace it might be kind of sketchy with the next two games..
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    More just kind of bouncing ideas of off people, but I can look at that particular filter this weekend.  Of the series tonight SF makes me a bit nervous only in that if they don't hit tonight with their ace it might be kind of sketchy with the next two games..
     
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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2010 - 6:53 PM ET #239

    Quote Originally Posted by therizz:

    More just kind of bouncing ideas of off people, but I can look at that particular filter this weekend.  Of the series tonight SF makes me a bit nervous only in that if they don't hit tonight with their ace it might be kind of sketchy with the next two games..


    Rizz,

    I have been thinking the exact same thing as you...I have been looking at the teamrankings.com and the 2 loses in my RL System (Bos, and Atl) could have been eliminated. Starting tonight im going to take notes of overall, home, and away rankings, rpi, and a couple other stats to see if I can find a filter.

    I agree with you on the SF series, if they cant get it done with Lincecum tonight, it may not happen in game 2 or 3.

    BOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by therizz:

    More just kind of bouncing ideas of off people, but I can look at that particular filter this weekend.  Of the series tonight SF makes me a bit nervous only in that if they don't hit tonight with their ace it might be kind of sketchy with the next two games..


    Rizz,

    I have been thinking the exact same thing as you...I have been looking at the teamrankings.com and the 2 loses in my RL System (Bos, and Atl) could have been eliminated. Starting tonight im going to take notes of overall, home, and away rankings, rpi, and a couple other stats to see if I can find a filter.

    I agree with you on the SF series, if they cant get it done with Lincecum tonight, it may not happen in game 2 or 3.

    BOL
     
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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2010 - 9:35 PM ET #240

    rizz,

     you can add what you like the question I have is the system is pretty close to perfect so far I would maybe track the filters and implement them when the system starts to fade in its percentage

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    rizz,

     you can add what you like the question I have is the system is pretty close to perfect so far I would maybe track the filters and implement them when the system starts to fade in its percentage

     
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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2010 - 9:44 PM ET #241

    Yeah,

    I looked back at the 50% over previous 10 filter and it would have eliminated losses and not any wins... can consider using it as a second level but definitely not a first level filter.  I think the teamrankings may be helpful especially when it is more established via more games to add to it.

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    Yeah,

    I looked back at the 50% over previous 10 filter and it would have eliminated losses and not any wins... can consider using it as a second level but definitely not a first level filter.  I think the teamrankings may be helpful especially when it is more established via more games to add to it.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2010 - 1:01 AM ET #242

    rizz we have to chanse tb and philly is there anything else?
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    rizz we have to chanse tb and philly is there anything else?
     
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2010 - 1:07 AM ET #243

    Results for 4/23:

    System record 26-0-1

    Additional series 3-0-0

     

    Series #28 (game 1 wins)   bal @ BOS -225 , RL

    Series #29 (game 1) 7:10        tor  @ TB -225 , RL

    Series #30 (game 1)  8:05       pit @ HOU -160

    Series #31 (game 1) 10:05       cle @ OAK -146

    Series #32 (game 1) 9:40        PHI -175 @ ariz

    Series 33 (game 1)  10:15        stl   @ SF -160  

     

    Game 1 wins =23

    Game 2 wins = 2

    Game 3 wins = 1

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    Results for 4/23:

    System record 26-0-1

    Additional series 3-0-0

     

    Series #28 (game 1 wins)   bal @ BOS -225 , RL

    Series #29 (game 1) 7:10        tor  @ TB -225 , RL

    Series #30 (game 1)  8:05       pit @ HOU -160

    Series #31 (game 1) 10:05       cle @ OAK -146

    Series #32 (game 1) 9:40        PHI -175 @ ariz

    Series 33 (game 1)  10:15        stl   @ SF -160  

     

    Game 1 wins =23

    Game 2 wins = 2

    Game 3 wins = 1

     
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2010 - 1:14 AM ET #244

    Plays for 4/24:

    System record 26-0-1

    Additional series 3-0-0

     

    **Series #28 (game 2) 7:10      bal @ BOS -195, RL **

    Series #29 (game 2) 6:10        tor  @ TB -140

    Series #32 (game 2) 8:10        PHI -110 @ ariz

    *** only included for those chasing on RL or if pushed -1 and want to try again.  Already included as a game 1 system win.***

    We actually missed a play today.  We should have been on the CWS also.  I did not notice the line went above -150.  sorry everyone.

     

    Game 1 wins =23

    Game 2 wins = 2

    Game 3 wins = 1

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    Plays for 4/24:

    System record 26-0-1

    Additional series 3-0-0

     

    **Series #28 (game 2) 7:10      bal @ BOS -195, RL **

    Series #29 (game 2) 6:10        tor  @ TB -140

    Series #32 (game 2) 8:10        PHI -110 @ ariz

    *** only included for those chasing on RL or if pushed -1 and want to try again.  Already included as a game 1 system win.***

    We actually missed a play today.  We should have been on the CWS also.  I did not notice the line went above -150.  sorry everyone.

     

    Game 1 wins =23

    Game 2 wins = 2

    Game 3 wins = 1

     
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2010 - 10:22 PM ET #245

    Another stat, I thought people might find interesting for those wanting to play the RL to bring down the juice.  I looked at AL for 2009, with an opening O/U at 9 or higher.  Record was 84-4 to hit at least one game on the RL regardless of odds.  This means under 9 was only 25-6 for hitting the RL regardless of odds.
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    Another stat, I thought people might find interesting for those wanting to play the RL to bring down the juice.  I looked at AL for 2009, with an opening O/U at 9 or higher.  Record was 84-4 to hit at least one game on the RL regardless of odds.  This means under 9 was only 25-6 for hitting the RL regardless of odds.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2010 - 10:49 PM ET #246

    Okay, this is interesting.... For NL 2009  = 58-5 for opening o/u 9 or higer covering on RL for any spread...

     

    The other thing that is interesting is that combining the AL and NL there were only 2 ML losses = 142-2 for these subsets of games.

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    Okay, this is interesting.... For NL 2009  = 58-5 for opening o/u 9 or higer covering on RL for any spread...

     

    The other thing that is interesting is that combining the AL and NL there were only 2 ML losses = 142-2 for these subsets of games.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2010 - 10:54 PM ET #247

    Results for 4/24:

    System record 28-0-1

    Additional series 3-0-0

     

    **Series #28 (game 2)     bal @ BOS -175 , RL

    Series #29 (game 2) 6:10        tor  @ TB -140 

    Series #32 (game 2) 8:10        PHI -110 @ ariz 

    *** only included for those chasing on RL or if pushed -1 and want to try again.  Already included as a game 1 system win.***

    Board is clear!

     

    Game 1 wins =23

    Game 2 wins = 4

    Game 3 wins = 1

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    Results for 4/24:

    System record 28-0-1

    Additional series 3-0-0

     

    **Series #28 (game 2)     bal @ BOS -175 , RL

    Series #29 (game 2) 6:10        tor  @ TB -140 

    Series #32 (game 2) 8:10        PHI -110 @ ariz 

    *** only included for those chasing on RL or if pushed -1 and want to try again.  Already included as a game 1 system win.***

    Board is clear!

     

    Game 1 wins =23

    Game 2 wins = 4

    Game 3 wins = 1

     
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2010 - 11:19 PM ET #248

    NL 2008:   88-9 any RL if o/u 9 or higher

    96-1 on ML

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    NL 2008:   88-9 any RL if o/u 9 or higher

    96-1 on ML

     
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    Posted: Apr. 24, 2010 - 11:41 PM ET #249

    AL 2008:  66-7 any odds RL if o/u 9 or higher

    71-2 on ML

     

    2008 Combined:   154-16 RL

    167-3 on ML

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    AL 2008:  66-7 any odds RL if o/u 9 or higher

    71-2 on ML

     

    2008 Combined:   154-16 RL

    167-3 on ML

     
     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2010 - 12:04 AM ET #250

    Comparisons:

    2009:

    playing all series on ML = 246-7

    o/u 9+ filter =            142-2

    under 9 = 104-5

    2008

    all series on ML = 258-10

    o/u 9+ filter = 167-3

    under 9 = 91-7

    *** I am a little surprised by this finding, but strangely enough playing the series that start under 9 are not adding much value, especially if the juice is high.  I am going to mark the series O/U from now on.  I am considering playing the series where the o/u is 9 or higher for 2U instead of 1.  Interested to read others opinions about this???  If we could use the oddsmakers knowledge against them to not only select series and a filter could be the ultimate coup!

     

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    Comparisons:

    2009:

    playing all series on ML = 246-7

    o/u 9+ filter =            142-2

    under 9 = 104-5

    2008

    all series on ML = 258-10

    o/u 9+ filter = 167-3

    under 9 = 91-7

    *** I am a little surprised by this finding, but strangely enough playing the series that start under 9 are not adding much value, especially if the juice is high.  I am going to mark the series O/U from now on.  I am considering playing the series where the o/u is 9 or higher for 2U instead of 1.  Interested to read others opinions about this???  If we could use the oddsmakers knowledge against them to not only select series and a filter could be the ultimate coup!

     

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