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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2017 - 12:43 PM ET #51

    Maybe fade when both systems agree above 1.00?
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2017 - 3:07 PM ET #52

    Sorry so late, I work early mornings on Sunday.  Off work is variable.


    GSGA
    Edm 1.542
    Nyi 2.274
    Mon 2.228
    Nj 2.252


    GSGA2
    Det 0.523
    Nyi 3.200
    Chi 3.365
    Nj 1.881


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    Sorry so late, I work early mornings on Sunday.  Off work is variable.


    GSGA
    Edm 1.542
    Nyi 2.274
    Mon 2.228
    Nj 2.252


    GSGA2
    Det 0.523
    Nyi 3.200
    Chi 3.365
    Nj 1.881


     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2017 - 3:09 PM ET #53

    Quote Originally Posted by The Dog Catcher:

    Maybe fade when both systems agree above 1.00?

    Something to look at.  That's why I want to make sure I put out the numbers daily.  We can go back and look at them...etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dog Catcher:

    Maybe fade when both systems agree above 1.00?

    Something to look at.  That's why I want to make sure I put out the numbers daily.  We can go back and look at them...etc.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2017 - 6:32 AM ET #54

    GSGA
    Ari 1.219
    Min 1.391
    Clb 0.594
    Tor 1.978
    Win 0.444
    Van 0.313

    GSGA2
    Was 1.408
    Min 0.325
    Clb 0.262
    Tor 0.690
    Dal 1.296
    Det 0.392


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    GSGA
    Ari 1.219
    Min 1.391
    Clb 0.594
    Tor 1.978
    Win 0.444
    Van 0.313

    GSGA2
    Was 1.408
    Min 0.325
    Clb 0.262
    Tor 0.690
    Dal 1.296
    Det 0.392


     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2017 - 6:24 AM ET #55

    GSGA
    Nyi 6.659
    Ari 1.508
    Fla 0.318
    Was 1.504
    Clb 0.686
    Nj 1.650
    Veg 0.012
    Cal 1.163
    Ana 0.705

    GSGA2
    Nyi 1.750
    Pit 2.726
    Car 0.213
    Was 1.356
    Clb 1.635
    Stl 0.139
    Mon 0.152
    Van 1.450
    La 1.411


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    GSGA
    Nyi 6.659
    Ari 1.508
    Fla 0.318
    Was 1.504
    Clb 0.686
    Nj 1.650
    Veg 0.012
    Cal 1.163
    Ana 0.705

    GSGA2
    Nyi 1.750
    Pit 2.726
    Car 0.213
    Was 1.356
    Clb 1.635
    Stl 0.139
    Mon 0.152
    Van 1.450
    La 1.411


     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2017 - 7:04 PM ET #56

    Buckeye,   sorry I didn't get back to you. Work has been crazy but something still seems wrong.

    Just take everything on face value in your example.
    Phi scores 3.5 goals per game on the road
    CHI gives up 2 goals per game
    The average you have is 2.9 goals /game.  
    Yet you are predicting 5.2 goals for PHI

    I believe the PHI 1.18 ratio and CHI 0.64 ratio is correct.  But I think you need to multiply all 3 together.

    1.18*0.64*2.9 = 2.2 goals expect for PHI.  So the fact that Chicago is so much better vs average bring down their expected goals.

    If CHI gave up 3.0 goals per game you would have 3.5/2.9 * 3.0/2.9 * 2.9 = 3.6.  PHI offense scores more than average and CHI gives up more than average, so PHI could take advantage of the poor defense and do better than they normally do.
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    Buckeye,   sorry I didn't get back to you. Work has been crazy but something still seems wrong.

    Just take everything on face value in your example.
    Phi scores 3.5 goals per game on the road
    CHI gives up 2 goals per game
    The average you have is 2.9 goals /game.  
    Yet you are predicting 5.2 goals for PHI

    I believe the PHI 1.18 ratio and CHI 0.64 ratio is correct.  But I think you need to multiply all 3 together.

    1.18*0.64*2.9 = 2.2 goals expect for PHI.  So the fact that Chicago is so much better vs average bring down their expected goals.

    If CHI gave up 3.0 goals per game you would have 3.5/2.9 * 3.0/2.9 * 2.9 = 3.6.  PHI offense scores more than average and CHI gives up more than average, so PHI could take advantage of the poor defense and do better than they normally do.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2017 - 6:26 AM ET #57

    GSGA
    Tor 1.014
    Bos 0.388
    Tb 2.178


    GSGA2
    Tor 0.375
    Nyr 0.629
    Tb 0.861

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    GSGA
    Tor 1.014
    Bos 0.388
    Tb 2.178


    GSGA2
    Tor 0.375
    Nyr 0.629
    Tb 0.861

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2017 - 7:16 AM ET #58

    After listening/agreeing with what MPG posted, I have adjusted GSGA to his formula.  GSGA2 was that formula but using Medians.  I'm going to continue to post both, with GSGA using averages....see if it makes a difference in the long run.


    GSGA
    Min 0.015
    Nyr 0.327
    Tb 1.094


    GSGA2
    Tor 0.375
    Nyr 0.629
    Tb 0.861


    I'm also going to reset the Win/Loss for each too.... that's posted on the other thread
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    After listening/agreeing with what MPG posted, I have adjusted GSGA to his formula.  GSGA2 was that formula but using Medians.  I'm going to continue to post both, with GSGA using averages....see if it makes a difference in the long run.


    GSGA
    Min 0.015
    Nyr 0.327
    Tb 1.094


    GSGA2
    Tor 0.375
    Nyr 0.629
    Tb 0.861


    I'm also going to reset the Win/Loss for each too.... that's posted on the other thread
     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2017 - 6:29 AM ET #59

    GSGA
    Phi 0.746
    Edm 0.092
    Min 0.047
    Stl 3.325
    Det 1.000
    Van 1.849
    Tb 0.397


    GSGA2
    Phi 1.007
    Nj 0.048
    Mon 0.222
    Stl 3.681
    Det 0.828
    Van 1.679
    Tb 0.143

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    GSGA
    Phi 0.746
    Edm 0.092
    Min 0.047
    Stl 3.325
    Det 1.000
    Van 1.849
    Tb 0.397


    GSGA2
    Phi 1.007
    Nj 0.048
    Mon 0.222
    Stl 3.681
    Det 0.828
    Van 1.679
    Tb 0.143

     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2017 - 6:30 AM ET #60

    GSGA
    Ott 1.651
    Clb 0.524
    Was 1.647
    Tor 1.052
    Buf 0.319
    Dal 1.140
    Veg 0.717

    GSGA2
    Ott 1.375
    Clb 0.732
    Was 1.909
    Tor 1.430
    Buf 0.509
    Dal 1.375
    Veg 0.952


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    GSGA
    Ott 1.651
    Clb 0.524
    Was 1.647
    Tor 1.052
    Buf 0.319
    Dal 1.140
    Veg 0.717

    GSGA2
    Ott 1.375
    Clb 0.732
    Was 1.909
    Tor 1.430
    Buf 0.509
    Dal 1.375
    Veg 0.952


     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2017 - 10:03 AM ET #61

    GSGA
    Edm 0.011
    Ott 0.432
    Clb 0.419
    Chi 0.278
    Nj 0.395
    Mon 0.169
    Tor 0.380
    Phi 0.526
    Stl 2.392
    Nas 2.440
    Win 1.632
    Van 1.020


    GSGA2
    Nyr 0.153
    Ott 0.750
    Clb 0.108
    Chi 0.069
    Nj 0.655
    Mon 0.439
    Tor 0.111
    Phi 0.813
    Stl 2.704
    Nas 2.800
    Win 1.411
    Van 0.831

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    GSGA
    Edm 0.011
    Ott 0.432
    Clb 0.419
    Chi 0.278
    Nj 0.395
    Mon 0.169
    Tor 0.380
    Phi 0.526
    Stl 2.392
    Nas 2.440
    Win 1.632
    Van 1.020


    GSGA2
    Nyr 0.153
    Ott 0.750
    Clb 0.108
    Chi 0.069
    Nj 0.655
    Mon 0.439
    Tor 0.111
    Phi 0.813
    Stl 2.704
    Nas 2.800
    Win 1.411
    Van 0.831

     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2017 - 4:29 PM ET #62

    GSGA
    Was 0.482
    Chi 0.497
    Tb 2.164
    Sj 0.389



    GSGA2
    Was 0.626
    Chi 0.726
    Tb 1.900
    Sj 0.200

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    GSGA
    Was 0.482
    Chi 0.497
    Tb 2.164
    Sj 0.389



    GSGA2
    Was 0.626
    Chi 0.726
    Tb 1.900
    Sj 0.200

     
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    Posted: Nov. 13, 2017 - 6:25 AM ET #63

    GSGA
    Dal 0.033
    Stl 0.783
    GSGA2
    Car 0.185
    Stl 0.589

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    Dal 0.033
    Stl 0.783
    GSGA2
    Car 0.185
    Stl 0.589

     
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2017 - 6:26 AM ET #64

    GSGA
    Pit 2.208
    Clb 0.653
    Fla 1.445
    Win 1.807
    Nas 0.810
    Phi 0.077
    Veg 0.836
    La 0.275

    GSGA2
    Pit 2.467
    Clb 0.417
    Fla 1.843
    Win 2.147
    Nas 1.156
    Min 0.137
    Veg 0.565
    La 0.486


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    GSGA
    Pit 2.208
    Clb 0.653
    Fla 1.445
    Win 1.807
    Nas 0.810
    Phi 0.077
    Veg 0.836
    La 0.275

    GSGA2
    Pit 2.467
    Clb 0.417
    Fla 1.843
    Win 2.147
    Nas 1.156
    Min 0.137
    Veg 0.565
    La 0.486


     
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    Can someone explain to me how you arrive at the the numbers for the GSGA2 model?

    thanks!  
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    GSGA
    Cal 0.683
    Chi 1.497
    Ana 0.265
    GSGA2
    Cal 0.444
    Chi 1.867
    Ana 0.561

     

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    GSGA
    Cal 0.683
    Chi 1.497
    Ana 0.265
    GSGA2
    Cal 0.444
    Chi 1.867
    Ana 0.561

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2017 - 6:27 AM ET #67

    Quote Originally Posted by The Dog Catcher:

    Can someone explain to me how you arrive at the the numbers for the GSGA2 model?

    thanks!  

    Using Median instead of Average
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Dog Catcher:

    Can someone explain to me how you arrive at the the numbers for the GSGA2 model?

    thanks!  

    Using Median instead of Average
     
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    GSGA
    Nj 1.436
    Nyi 0.486
    Ott 1.298
    Mon 0.601
    Tb 2.017
    Win 0.593
    Min 0.503
    Stl 0.846
    Col 2.036
    Van 0.381
    Sj 0.875
    La 1.012
    GSGA2
    Nj 0.900
    Nyi 0.875
    Ott 1.748
    Mon 0.889
    Tb 2.422
    Win 0.949
    Min 0.733
    Stl 0.483
    Col 2.545
    Van 0.700
    Sj 1.158
    La 1.362

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    GSGA
    Nj 1.436
    Nyi 0.486
    Ott 1.298
    Mon 0.601
    Tb 2.017
    Win 0.593
    Min 0.503
    Stl 0.846
    Col 2.036
    Van 0.381
    Sj 0.875
    La 1.012
    GSGA2
    Nj 0.900
    Nyi 0.875
    Ott 1.748
    Mon 0.889
    Tb 2.422
    Win 0.949
    Min 0.733
    Stl 0.483
    Col 2.545
    Van 0.700
    Sj 1.158
    La 1.362

     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2017 - 6:18 AM ET #69

    GSGA
    Clb 1.318
    Det 1.472
    GSGA2 Clb 1.698 Det 1.887 

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    GSGA
    Clb 1.318
    Det 1.472
    GSGA2 Clb 1.698 Det 1.887 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2017 - 10:20 PM ET #70

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeKaptn:

    GSGA
    Clb 1.318
    Det 1.472
    GSGA2 Clb 1.698 Det 1.887 


    Played both plus in a parlay. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeKaptn:

    GSGA
    Clb 1.318
    Det 1.472
    GSGA2 Clb 1.698 Det 1.887 


    Played both plus in a parlay. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2017 - 6:50 AM ET #71

    GSGA
    Phi 0.877
    Ott 0.517
    Dal 1.084
    Nj 0.640
    La 0.561
    Pit 1.329
    Tb 1.601
    Car 1.529
    Tor 1.363
    Was 0.248
    Nas 1.946
    Stl 1.108
    Sj 0.426
    GSGA2
    Phi 1.190
    Ott 0.938
    Dal 1.281
    Nj 0.198
    La 0.828
    Pit 1.651
    Tb 2.003
    Car 1.254
    Tor 1.037
    Was 0.523
    Nas 2.418
    Stl 0.818
    Sj 0.716

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    Phi 0.877
    Ott 0.517
    Dal 1.084
    Nj 0.640
    La 0.561
    Pit 1.329
    Tb 1.601
    Car 1.529
    Tor 1.363
    Was 0.248
    Nas 1.946
    Stl 1.108
    Sj 0.426
    GSGA2
    Phi 1.190
    Ott 0.938
    Dal 1.281
    Nj 0.198
    La 0.828
    Pit 1.651
    Tb 2.003
    Car 1.254
    Tor 1.037
    Was 0.523
    Nas 2.418
    Stl 0.818
    Sj 0.716

     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2017 - 2:48 AM ET #72

    GSGA
    Nyi 0.206
    Det 1.832
    Ott 2.418
    Ana 0.664
    Veg 0.284
    GSGA2
    Car 0.121
    Det 2.200
    Ott 2.056
    Ana 0.917
    Veg 0.609

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    GSGA
    Nyi 0.206
    Det 1.832
    Ott 2.418
    Ana 0.664
    Veg 0.284
    GSGA2
    Car 0.121
    Det 2.200
    Ott 2.056
    Ana 0.917
    Veg 0.609

     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2017 - 6:34 AM ET #73

    GSGA
    Tor 1.546
    Was 0.916
    Clb 1.673
    Nas 0.082
    Nj 0.047
    Ana 0.384
    GSGA2
    Tor 1.987
    Was 1.208
    Clb 1.392
    Nas 0.454
    Min 0.326
    Ana 0.088

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    Tor 1.546
    Was 0.916
    Clb 1.673
    Nas 0.082
    Nj 0.047
    Ana 0.384
    GSGA2
    Tor 1.987
    Was 1.208
    Clb 1.392
    Nas 0.454
    Min 0.326
    Ana 0.088

     
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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2017 - 6:22 AM ET #74

    GSGA
    Van 0.024
    Stl 1.334
    Dal 2.581
    GSGA2
    Phi 0.241
    Stl 1.584
    Dal 2.922

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    Van 0.024
    Stl 1.334
    Dal 2.581
    GSGA2
    Phi 0.241
    Stl 1.584
    Dal 2.922

     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 22, 2017 - 7:20 AM ET #75

    Covers has not updated last night's games so these numbers aren't exact though they should be close...I don't think 3 games out of all that has been played so far this season will matter. None of these teams played yesterday.

    GSGA
    Clb 0.546
    Min 1.314
    Ott 1.039
    Tor 2.075
    Nyi 1.489
    Bos 0.077
    Car 0.992
    Det 0.846
    Pit 0.532
    Tb 1.005
    Nas 2.381
    Sj 2.315
    Col 3.446
    La 0.112
    Ana 0.495



    GSGA2
    Clb 0.800
    Min 1.081
    Ott 0.789
    Tor 1.589
    Nyi 1.867
    Nj 0.214
    Car 1.344
    Det 1.091
    Pit 0.773
    Tb 1.327
    Nas 2.833
    Sj 2.069
    Col 3.902
    La 0.369
    Ana 0.813

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    Covers has not updated last night's games so these numbers aren't exact though they should be close...I don't think 3 games out of all that has been played so far this season will matter. None of these teams played yesterday.

    GSGA
    Clb 0.546
    Min 1.314
    Ott 1.039
    Tor 2.075
    Nyi 1.489
    Bos 0.077
    Car 0.992
    Det 0.846
    Pit 0.532
    Tb 1.005
    Nas 2.381
    Sj 2.315
    Col 3.446
    La 0.112
    Ana 0.495



    GSGA2
    Clb 0.800
    Min 1.081
    Ott 0.789
    Tor 1.589
    Nyi 1.867
    Nj 0.214
    Car 1.344
    Det 1.091
    Pit 0.773
    Tb 1.327
    Nas 2.833
    Sj 2.069
    Col 3.902
    La 0.369
    Ana 0.813

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