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    NHL Betting System: Goal Scored And Allowed Systems

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    BuckeyeKaptn
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2017 - 6:53 AM ET #1

    Team Dif
    Nyr 1.777
    Phi 2.385
    La 3.486
    Bos 0.272
    Ott 0.827
    Pit 1.049
    Fla 1.670
    Car 0.949
    Ari 0.266
    Min 0.877
    Veg 1.716

    No SJ/NYI as SJ pitched a shutout yesterday, has not given up a goal Away.
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    Team Dif
    Nyr 1.777
    Phi 2.385
    La 3.486
    Bos 0.272
    Ott 0.827
    Pit 1.049
    Fla 1.670
    Car 0.949
    Ari 0.266
    Min 0.877
    Veg 1.716

    No SJ/NYI as SJ pitched a shutout yesterday, has not given up a goal Away.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2017 - 9:21 AM ET #2

    Isn't Veg the home team tonight?
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2017 - 10:03 AM ET #3

    Never mind, just realized this is not about just betting away teams.  Thanks for the info so far this season.

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    Never mind, just realized this is not about just betting away teams.  Thanks for the info so far this season.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2017 - 10:21 AM ET #4

    How has this performed in the past?
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2017 - 2:45 PM ET #5

    The web site I found said that it does well. Doesn't say exactly what dif amount does well and what doesn't. I haven't seen this tracked anywhere, which is why I wanted to do it...to be able to go back and see if the dif for the plays should be something else or not.  I'm currently tracking a dif of at least 1 goal, but maybe it could be a half a goal...or not.
    Also, we can see if the higher numbers work well for -1.5 lines...or not!
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    The web site I found said that it does well. Doesn't say exactly what dif amount does well and what doesn't. I haven't seen this tracked anywhere, which is why I wanted to do it...to be able to go back and see if the dif for the plays should be something else or not.  I'm currently tracking a dif of at least 1 goal, but maybe it could be a half a goal...or not.
    Also, we can see if the higher numbers work well for -1.5 lines...or not!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2017 - 4:51 PM ET #6

    I played NYR & PHL—TY!  3-0 so far for me.  I appreciate all your work.  GL
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    I played NYR & PHL—TY!  3-0 so far for me.  I appreciate all your work.  GL
     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2017 - 2:29 PM ET #7

    Team Dif
    Det 0.283


    I work at 330a EST USA on Sundays so if there is a Sunday 1pm game, possibly later, I won't have the numbers.
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    I work at 330a EST USA on Sundays so if there is a Sunday 1pm game, possibly later, I won't have the numbers.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2017 - 3:15 PM ET #8

    Team Dif      BET
    Nyr 1.777,  3.39
    Phi 2.385, 4.41  
    La 3.486, 7.91
    Bos 0.272, no play
    Ott 0.827, 1.83
    Pit 1.049, 2.45
    Fla 1.670, 3.67
    Car 0.949, 2.00
    Ari 0.266, no play
    Min 0.877, 2.12
    Veg 1.716. 3.86

    Hey Buck,

    If you don't mind me posting in this thread too, I would like to track how I would like to make bets for this system you are proposing.

    if you would prefer me to track in another thread, please let me know - I don't want to hijack your thread.

    Best,
    RM

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    Team Dif      BET
    Nyr 1.777,  3.39
    Phi 2.385, 4.41  
    La 3.486, 7.91
    Bos 0.272, no play
    Ott 0.827, 1.83
    Pit 1.049, 2.45
    Fla 1.670, 3.67
    Car 0.949, 2.00
    Ari 0.266, no play
    Min 0.877, 2.12
    Veg 1.716. 3.86

    Hey Buck,

    If you don't mind me posting in this thread too, I would like to track how I would like to make bets for this system you are proposing.

    if you would prefer me to track in another thread, please let me know - I don't want to hijack your thread.

    Best,
    RM

     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2017 - 4:13 PM ET #9

    Hey Buckeye!

    I have just gone back and recorded the results for the year so far, and according to my calculations - this system is a destroyer!

    Small sample size so far, I know - but using a 100 unit bankroll, here is what I have.

    Firstly, I only play teams with a GD of greater than 0.7.

    Total bets 40
    Won 25, Lost 15 = 62.5%

    Total wagers = 171.48 unit
    Total profit = 72.8 units
    ROI = 42.45%
    Average bet size = 4.29 units

    The way I am calculating bet sizes is simple modified version of kelly criterion.

    Also Buckeye - I am not sure if there is a type for the plays posted for 19 Oct, but Tampa Bay has a number of 18.365 - seems very high for NHL, what is the story here?
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    Hey Buckeye!

    I have just gone back and recorded the results for the year so far, and according to my calculations - this system is a destroyer!

    Small sample size so far, I know - but using a 100 unit bankroll, here is what I have.

    Firstly, I only play teams with a GD of greater than 0.7.

    Total bets 40
    Won 25, Lost 15 = 62.5%

    Total wagers = 171.48 unit
    Total profit = 72.8 units
    ROI = 42.45%
    Average bet size = 4.29 units

    The way I am calculating bet sizes is simple modified version of kelly criterion.

    Also Buckeye - I am not sure if there is a type for the plays posted for 19 Oct, but Tampa Bay has a number of 18.365 - seems very high for NHL, what is the story here?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 22, 2017 - 8:18 PM ET #10

    RM, no that's fine, post away.  

    Good question on TB.  I went back and checked all formulas etc. All I can say is that it must have been a mistake in a formula that I have since fixed unknowingly.  They did win!!  
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    RM, no that's fine, post away.  

    Good question on TB.  I went back and checked all formulas etc. All I can say is that it must have been a mistake in a formula that I have since fixed unknowingly.  They did win!!  
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2017 - 6:23 AM ET #11

    Team Dif
    Nyr 0.280
    Tor 3.174

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    Nyr 0.280
    Tor 3.174

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2017 - 3:52 PM ET #12

    Team  Dif     BET
    Nyr 0.280   2.00* on San Jose @ +111
    Tor 3.174   5.36* @ -145



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    Team  Dif     BET
    Nyr 0.280   2.00* on San Jose @ +111
    Tor 3.174   5.36* @ -145



     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2017 - 3:56 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeKaptn:

    RM, no that's fine, post away.  

    Good question on TB.  I went back and checked all formulas etc. All I can say is that it must have been a mistake in a formula that I have since fixed unknowingly.  They did win!!  

    If you don't mind posting the updated number for Tampa Bay 19 Oct so I can update my back testing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeKaptn:

    RM, no that's fine, post away.  

    Good question on TB.  I went back and checked all formulas etc. All I can say is that it must have been a mistake in a formula that I have since fixed unknowingly.  They did win!!  

    If you don't mind posting the updated number for Tampa Bay 19 Oct so I can update my back testing.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2017 - 6:53 PM ET #14

    Road team’s (TB) offensive percentage by the home team’s (Cbus) defensive percentage, and then multiply that number by the league average for goals scored by the away team.

    TB off: (11 goals/3 games)= 3.666
    Cbus def ((1 goal/2 games)=.5
    3.666/.5=7.333...7.333*3.2446 (Road ave goals) = 23.7926

    Cbus off: (8 goals/2 games)= 4
    TB def ((12 goals/3 games)=4
    4/4=1...1*3.2978 (Home ave goals) = 3.2978

    23.7926-3.2978= 20.4948 in TB favor.  This might be off cause I had to manually add it up but because Cbus had an under 1 goal a game at the time, it skewed the numbers.

    So, the number posted was correct.
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    Road team’s (TB) offensive percentage by the home team’s (Cbus) defensive percentage, and then multiply that number by the league average for goals scored by the away team.

    TB off: (11 goals/3 games)= 3.666
    Cbus def ((1 goal/2 games)=.5
    3.666/.5=7.333...7.333*3.2446 (Road ave goals) = 23.7926

    Cbus off: (8 goals/2 games)= 4
    TB def ((12 goals/3 games)=4
    4/4=1...1*3.2978 (Home ave goals) = 3.2978

    23.7926-3.2978= 20.4948 in TB favor.  This might be off cause I had to manually add it up but because Cbus had an under 1 goal a game at the time, it skewed the numbers.

    So, the number posted was correct.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2017 - 6:54 PM ET #15

    It seemed wrong to me too, so that's why I posted the calculations.
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    It seemed wrong to me too, so that's why I posted the calculations.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2017 - 6:57 PM ET #16

    Quoted:
    .... this can be a solid system if you have a large enough sample size to get decent averages, so this is probably better suited for later in the season. Teams can get off to a hot or cold start early in the season and the numbers could be skewed, so save this for the second half.

    That's why we post, maybe it could be a good system early too.
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    .... this can be a solid system if you have a large enough sample size to get decent averages, so this is probably better suited for later in the season. Teams can get off to a hot or cold start early in the season and the numbers could be skewed, so save this for the second half.

    That's why we post, maybe it could be a good system early too.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2017 - 9:15 PM ET #17

    I wonder if its best to use a system like this, but only take into account more recent results like L10 or maybe even L20?

    In my opinion (and itsonly opinion based from observations) there is no point in using data from October to make picks in February.

    What skills are required to build spreadsheets that you do Kaptn?  My mathematics is sound, however when it comes to using computers I don't know much.  Would you advise learning any computer coding, or any specific functions in excel?
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    I wonder if its best to use a system like this, but only take into account more recent results like L10 or maybe even L20?

    In my opinion (and itsonly opinion based from observations) there is no point in using data from October to make picks in February.

    What skills are required to build spreadsheets that you do Kaptn?  My mathematics is sound, however when it comes to using computers I don't know much.  Would you advise learning any computer coding, or any specific functions in excel?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2017 - 10:26 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by rivermonsterz:

    Team  Dif     BET
    Nyr 0.280   2.00* on San Jose @ +111
    Tor 3.174   5.36* @ -145




    Results for Oct 23rd

    San Jose 2* at +111, WIN $2.22
    Toronto 5.36* @-145, WIN $3.96

    YTD
    2-0 +$6.18

    Thanks again to the kaptn for providing the numbers for this system.
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    Team  Dif     BET
    Nyr 0.280   2.00* on San Jose @ +111
    Tor 3.174   5.36* @ -145




    Results for Oct 23rd

    San Jose 2* at +111, WIN $2.22
    Toronto 5.36* @-145, WIN $3.96

    YTD
    2-0 +$6.18

    Thanks again to the kaptn for providing the numbers for this system.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2017 - 12:25 AM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by rivermonsterz:

      

    What skills are required to build spreadsheets that you do Kaptn?  My mathematics is sound, however when it comes to using computers I don't know much.  Would you advise learning any computer coding, or any specific functions in excel?

    When I started using spreadsheets, I was like 5 year old learning math.  I followed DeGen and his spreadsheet thread.  I downloaded most of what he made. I used it but tore copies apart looking at formulas.  DeGen was my teacher by making a lot of spreadsheets.  I just happened to decipher them, and learn from them.  I keep almost all of my old spreadsheets that I make, in case there's a formula I forgot about.
    I also went and bought Excel for Dummies....seriously!!!
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    What skills are required to build spreadsheets that you do Kaptn?  My mathematics is sound, however when it comes to using computers I don't know much.  Would you advise learning any computer coding, or any specific functions in excel?

    When I started using spreadsheets, I was like 5 year old learning math.  I followed DeGen and his spreadsheet thread.  I downloaded most of what he made. I used it but tore copies apart looking at formulas.  DeGen was my teacher by making a lot of spreadsheets.  I just happened to decipher them, and learn from them.  I keep almost all of my old spreadsheets that I make, in case there's a formula I forgot about.
    I also went and bought Excel for Dummies....seriously!!!
     
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    Team Dif
    Phi 1.565
    Tb 0.081
    Nyi 0.838
    Pit 4.475
    Fla 0.669
    Det 0.374
    Ott 0.232
    Min 3.543
    Nas 3.869
    Col 0.169
    Veg 1.017

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    Team Dif
    Phi 1.565
    Tb 0.081
    Nyi 0.838
    Pit 4.475
    Fla 0.669
    Det 0.374
    Ott 0.232
    Min 3.543
    Nas 3.869
    Col 0.169
    Veg 1.017

     
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    Posted: Oct. 24, 2017 - 4:02 PM ET #21

    Team  Dif     BET
    Phi 1.565   2.7* @ -138
    Tb 0.081   2.0 @ +103
    Nyi 0.838   NO PLAY
    Pit 4.475   7.52* @ -147
    Fla 0.669   2.0* @ +120
    Det 0.374   2.0* @ +107
    Ott 0.232   BET ON LAK 2.0* @ +113
    Min 3.543   5.49* @ -182
    Nas 3.869   6.77* @ -133
    Col 0.169   2.0* @ +119
    Veg 1.017   2.5* @ +145

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    Team  Dif     BET
    Phi 1.565   2.7* @ -138
    Tb 0.081   2.0 @ +103
    Nyi 0.838   NO PLAY
    Pit 4.475   7.52* @ -147
    Fla 0.669   2.0* @ +120
    Det 0.374   2.0* @ +107
    Ott 0.232   BET ON LAK 2.0* @ +113
    Min 3.543   5.49* @ -182
    Nas 3.869   6.77* @ -133
    Col 0.169   2.0* @ +119
    Veg 1.017   2.5* @ +145

     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2017 - 6:27 AM ET #22

    Team Dif
    Stl 2.891
    Buf 1.728

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    Team Dif
    Stl 2.891
    Buf 1.728

     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2017 - 1:19 PM ET #23

    Yesterdays results 
    (-$3.521) 

    YTD = +$2.659

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    (-$3.521) 

    YTD = +$2.659

     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2017 - 1:23 PM ET #24

    Todays plays

    St Louis 4.76* @ -155
    Buffalo 5.13* @ +197

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    Todays plays

    St Louis 4.76* @ -155
    Buffalo 5.13* @ +197

     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 25, 2017 - 7:47 PM ET #25

    Thanks Buckeye!
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