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    wheresjuve
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    Posted: Dec. 25, 2008 - 1:04 AM ET #76

    ur an idiot for real
     
    tho i wish i had thought of that when i was in the box
     
    dont make excuses wit ur picks sayin all the services are off to a bad start cus half the ones u named are frauds and the rest are clowns and nobody on here wants a SERVICE they lookin for a SYSTEM
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    ur an idiot for real
     
    tho i wish i had thought of that when i was in the box
     
    dont make excuses wit ur picks sayin all the services are off to a bad start cus half the ones u named are frauds and the rest are clowns and nobody on here wants a SERVICE they lookin for a SYSTEM
     
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    Posted: Dec. 25, 2008 - 12:31 PM ET #77

    Juve/Allin by now everyone knows you are one and the same, so save everyone else the pleasure of the trickery and just do your heckling, touting. and bantering under one alias...
    Guys on here aren't looking for a System..or a Service...or anything other than winners.  Who and how they could care less about, the want winners...
    And like the Detroit Lions, admit other than  unrated leans I haven't produced yet..but still will.   Aren't there a few Games left...like 27, and teams a bit more consistent than the "6-6"'r''s of early Bowls...
    Glad that your man was smart enough to switch from Hawaii to Notre Dame AND give the total to boot.  Kinda easy to post his winners when the games are finished.  You've probably shut down the SportsBook at Ceasar's, The Mirage, and the Hilton by now, huh??
    Yep I'm an idiot.  But don't think all the other guys reading BOTH your alias' are...continued winning Juve/Allin...whoever you are when you make your next post...
     
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    Juve/Allin by now everyone knows you are one and the same, so save everyone else the pleasure of the trickery and just do your heckling, touting. and bantering under one alias...
    Guys on here aren't looking for a System..or a Service...or anything other than winners.  Who and how they could care less about, the want winners...
    And like the Detroit Lions, admit other than  unrated leans I haven't produced yet..but still will.   Aren't there a few Games left...like 27, and teams a bit more consistent than the "6-6"'r''s of early Bowls...
    Glad that your man was smart enough to switch from Hawaii to Notre Dame AND give the total to boot.  Kinda easy to post his winners when the games are finished.  You've probably shut down the SportsBook at Ceasar's, The Mirage, and the Hilton by now, huh??
    Yep I'm an idiot.  But don't think all the other guys reading BOTH your alias' are...continued winning Juve/Allin...whoever you are when you make your next post...
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 25, 2008 - 1:01 PM ET #78

    I was at the Mirage last weekend. That sportsbook is great. I could spend a whole weekend there.
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    I was at the Mirage last weekend. That sportsbook is great. I could spend a whole weekend there.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 25, 2008 - 1:04 PM ET #79

    Well i dont know about everyone else, but im already on FAU. Im betting against a team from michigan which kills me. Im thinking about the over, but im hesitant, cause everyone else is on the over also.
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    Well i dont know about everyone else, but im already on FAU. Im betting against a team from michigan which kills me. Im thinking about the over, but im hesitant, cause everyone else is on the over also.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 26, 2008 - 12:52 AM ET #80

    Just went though reading your analysis of the seven bowl games so far and their very good write-ups!  Matter of fact dead on.  According to me your record is 4-2-1 ATS not a bad start.  These other clowns on this thread probably don't understand my point.  Enjoy reading the write-ups, keep your head up and continue to grind. Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity!
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    Just went though reading your analysis of the seven bowl games so far and their very good write-ups!  Matter of fact dead on.  According to me your record is 4-2-1 ATS not a bad start.  These other clowns on this thread probably don't understand my point.  Enjoy reading the write-ups, keep your head up and continue to grind. Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 26, 2008 - 1:15 AM ET #81

    Quote Originally Posted by kbit:

    Professor,
     
    Sampson and Virginia lost to Chaminade. One of the greatest upsets of all time. Not as good as the 1980 U.S. Olympic Hockey time. Now that is the greatest upset ever.
    I could not remember. You are right. Every Christmas for 2 days surrounding it, strange things happen in sports. The rhythm of the season is altered and the unlikely becomes the norm . Today it was LA ending Bostons streak, Chris Paul having his steals streak end at 100+ games, Cleveland did not show up and their huge spread run is now compromised . Yesterday  N D's losing bowl streak ended at 9 games. This has been going on for a long time. The worse time of the year to decipher basketball and in general all sports is now. It always has been that way but it is very short lived. I think I figured the reasons and I will pass on all games played during this period in the future though I had only 2 games at small amounts . When I taught my handicapping class in college I had that down as a dead time to play games. The other dead time is the last game of the season in basketball. I almost never play those games unless they have meaning. I answered your response in my bowl game area. it is not up for some reason so I listed the games I liked without the write up. Happy holidays to you .
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    Professor,
     
    Sampson and Virginia lost to Chaminade. One of the greatest upsets of all time. Not as good as the 1980 U.S. Olympic Hockey time. Now that is the greatest upset ever.
    I could not remember. You are right. Every Christmas for 2 days surrounding it, strange things happen in sports. The rhythm of the season is altered and the unlikely becomes the norm . Today it was LA ending Bostons streak, Chris Paul having his steals streak end at 100+ games, Cleveland did not show up and their huge spread run is now compromised . Yesterday  N D's losing bowl streak ended at 9 games. This has been going on for a long time. The worse time of the year to decipher basketball and in general all sports is now. It always has been that way but it is very short lived. I think I figured the reasons and I will pass on all games played during this period in the future though I had only 2 games at small amounts . When I taught my handicapping class in college I had that down as a dead time to play games. The other dead time is the last game of the season in basketball. I almost never play those games unless they have meaning. I answered your response in my bowl game area. it is not up for some reason so I listed the games I liked without the write up. Happy holidays to you .
     
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    Posted: Dec. 26, 2008 - 2:12 AM ET #82

     It is depressing when you do a lot of work on a project and there is nothing to show for it. Do not let it get you down. When ones spirit is at its lowest learning is at its highest. I been there more then once. Look at the loses as a blessing rather then a curse. It gives you an opportunity to alter a thing or two . Suddenly winning patterns start emerging. It is very very important in my opinion to put all you do in precise mechanical form then back research it using the EXACT same formula for all games. Nothing should be subjective and you can put a number to your picks knowing in the long run you will win because the past determines the future. You have a good mind  and that along with ambition will get you to the promise land. I hope your picks turn around soon.  Here is how I approach handicapping and similar issues. I take a particular situation and look at at least 100 similar situations from the past. For example I might look at teams that have no bowl experience in the past 2 year and or 3 years or for a longer period then that. If I see that those teams are either winning or losing at least 55% of the bowl games I look at other handicapper tools to see if such and such is also part of the equation and can improve the winning%. Suddenly patterns emerge. It might be that the inexperienced team is playing a team with a bad spread record. You will find which is  more important and therefore becomes the PRIMARY factor. Sometimes one thing contradicts the other and sometimes one thing strengthens the other. I did this with a number of potentially good handicapping factors. I eventually  whittled down  about 6  of those handicapping tools and a certain pecking order of importance emerged. I have a 20,000 game data base supporting that. Last year I taught a group of 7 people wanting to improve their handicapping skills  and challenged all of them to find if the mechanical form of handicapping methods I incorporated and offered them hit less then 60%. If they could find that it produced less then 60% winners I would double their money back. None could. Of the 7 six are still in contact with me and are from 3 different continents and 4 countries.
     The point I am trying to make is that one needs to dig and dig and dig until you find that which works that others do not know, especially the  linemakers. It should be put in mechanical form so it is NEVER altered. If you do that and manage your money correctly you can make some serious money. For me the work is fun . We just discovered a major breakthru which I immediately told my six people about. I did not expect that to happen but it has changed the winning % a whooping 5 percentage points. After 35 years I still try to improve what I do.
    Do not respond to negative destructive criticism. There are plenty of those people around and they are almost always losers in life. Good fortune on your picks.
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     It is depressing when you do a lot of work on a project and there is nothing to show for it. Do not let it get you down. When ones spirit is at its lowest learning is at its highest. I been there more then once. Look at the loses as a blessing rather then a curse. It gives you an opportunity to alter a thing or two . Suddenly winning patterns start emerging. It is very very important in my opinion to put all you do in precise mechanical form then back research it using the EXACT same formula for all games. Nothing should be subjective and you can put a number to your picks knowing in the long run you will win because the past determines the future. You have a good mind  and that along with ambition will get you to the promise land. I hope your picks turn around soon.  Here is how I approach handicapping and similar issues. I take a particular situation and look at at least 100 similar situations from the past. For example I might look at teams that have no bowl experience in the past 2 year and or 3 years or for a longer period then that. If I see that those teams are either winning or losing at least 55% of the bowl games I look at other handicapper tools to see if such and such is also part of the equation and can improve the winning%. Suddenly patterns emerge. It might be that the inexperienced team is playing a team with a bad spread record. You will find which is  more important and therefore becomes the PRIMARY factor. Sometimes one thing contradicts the other and sometimes one thing strengthens the other. I did this with a number of potentially good handicapping factors. I eventually  whittled down  about 6  of those handicapping tools and a certain pecking order of importance emerged. I have a 20,000 game data base supporting that. Last year I taught a group of 7 people wanting to improve their handicapping skills  and challenged all of them to find if the mechanical form of handicapping methods I incorporated and offered them hit less then 60%. If they could find that it produced less then 60% winners I would double their money back. None could. Of the 7 six are still in contact with me and are from 3 different continents and 4 countries.
     The point I am trying to make is that one needs to dig and dig and dig until you find that which works that others do not know, especially the  linemakers. It should be put in mechanical form so it is NEVER altered. If you do that and manage your money correctly you can make some serious money. For me the work is fun . We just discovered a major breakthru which I immediately told my six people about. I did not expect that to happen but it has changed the winning % a whooping 5 percentage points. After 35 years I still try to improve what I do.
    Do not respond to negative destructive criticism. There are plenty of those people around and they are almost always losers in life. Good fortune on your picks.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 26, 2008 - 6:58 PM ET #83

    Traditional BOWL "trends" (for those of you that may rely on them) say to always bet the "FAVORITES" BEFORE XMAS.  Doing so this year would've resulted in a 4-3 ATS record.  Well, XMAS has come and gone...note to date, the points have only come into play once (TCU/BYU Game) as SU winner is 6-1...
     
    MOTOR CITY BOWL--on paper, this one appears a high-scoring shoot-out, and depending on your capping methods, maybe a blow-out as well.  Virtually a home game for Central Mich who happens to be on Ford Field for the 3rd consecutive year.  A healthy Dan LeFavour (Bowl MVP in '06) capable of putting points up with his arm or his legs...in fact the Chippewa leading rusher despite missing the better part of 2 games with gimpy ankles!  This offense put up 30+ pts in each of it's final 4 games.  Unfortunately, after they score...they've gotta play defense.  They haven't!  Anyone that watched CMU annihilate Northern Ill for one half only to barely hang-on for an Overtime win knows what this Defense is capable of!  Perennial MAC bottom-dweller Eastern Mich hung 56 on them for a season ending win (as 11 pt dog).  CMU has the 2nd WORST PASS DEFENSE in the nation...FAU's strength!  Note that FAU is 7-0 ATS vs. poor pass-defense 
    (62%>).  I am looking at this Game not only as much as a "play" on one team, but also as a "fade" on one.  Despite the fact that the Chip's are a prolific scoring team, not one of their last ten games has been decided by more than 10 points.  In fact, they were significantly beaten statiscally in 3 of their last 4 games; note that "Stat" winners are Outright winners 80% of all games!  Opening line of -"4" chalk here appeared within the CMU comfort zone; just think the public line move to "7" is expecting more than this defense is capable of.  I'm well aware that a few FAU players did not make the trip and likely have a lot to do with the move.  But note...BOTH of these teams betting history...line moves involving EITHER have resulted in the public being wrong almost 60% of the time.  Howard Schnellenberger has been to a few Bowls (5-0 SU) and has a veteran squad that should handle a hostile CMU fan-base (by the way, this is not even close to being sold-out).   Only aspect I can see possibly hurting FAU is their TO margin, where they are -15; but with some "new" players having to "step-it-up" for those not making the trip, hopefully that won't be a major factor.  Lastly, this one fits 3 STRONG SPECIFIC Bowl angles (not trends!!) that suggest the only way to go here is FLORIDA ATLANTIC +7  *3*  
     
    GOOD LUCK
     
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    Traditional BOWL "trends" (for those of you that may rely on them) say to always bet the "FAVORITES" BEFORE XMAS.  Doing so this year would've resulted in a 4-3 ATS record.  Well, XMAS has come and gone...note to date, the points have only come into play once (TCU/BYU Game) as SU winner is 6-1...
     
    MOTOR CITY BOWL--on paper, this one appears a high-scoring shoot-out, and depending on your capping methods, maybe a blow-out as well.  Virtually a home game for Central Mich who happens to be on Ford Field for the 3rd consecutive year.  A healthy Dan LeFavour (Bowl MVP in '06) capable of putting points up with his arm or his legs...in fact the Chippewa leading rusher despite missing the better part of 2 games with gimpy ankles!  This offense put up 30+ pts in each of it's final 4 games.  Unfortunately, after they score...they've gotta play defense.  They haven't!  Anyone that watched CMU annihilate Northern Ill for one half only to barely hang-on for an Overtime win knows what this Defense is capable of!  Perennial MAC bottom-dweller Eastern Mich hung 56 on them for a season ending win (as 11 pt dog).  CMU has the 2nd WORST PASS DEFENSE in the nation...FAU's strength!  Note that FAU is 7-0 ATS vs. poor pass-defense 
    (62%>).  I am looking at this Game not only as much as a "play" on one team, but also as a "fade" on one.  Despite the fact that the Chip's are a prolific scoring team, not one of their last ten games has been decided by more than 10 points.  In fact, they were significantly beaten statiscally in 3 of their last 4 games; note that "Stat" winners are Outright winners 80% of all games!  Opening line of -"4" chalk here appeared within the CMU comfort zone; just think the public line move to "7" is expecting more than this defense is capable of.  I'm well aware that a few FAU players did not make the trip and likely have a lot to do with the move.  But note...BOTH of these teams betting history...line moves involving EITHER have resulted in the public being wrong almost 60% of the time.  Howard Schnellenberger has been to a few Bowls (5-0 SU) and has a veteran squad that should handle a hostile CMU fan-base (by the way, this is not even close to being sold-out).   Only aspect I can see possibly hurting FAU is their TO margin, where they are -15; but with some "new" players having to "step-it-up" for those not making the trip, hopefully that won't be a major factor.  Lastly, this one fits 3 STRONG SPECIFIC Bowl angles (not trends!!) that suggest the only way to go here is FLORIDA ATLANTIC +7  *3*  
     
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    Posted: Dec. 26, 2008 - 7:07 PM ET #84

    Well BucBacker, Im on your side of this game. No offense but im not so sure if thats a good thing or not. kidding. Its time to start winning, so here is as good a spot as any. BOL and go Owls.
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    Well BucBacker, Im on your side of this game. No offense but im not so sure if thats a good thing or not. kidding. Its time to start winning, so here is as good a spot as any. BOL and go Owls.
     
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    "im not so sure if thats a good thing or not"
     
    Hey kbit--LOL, know exactly what you mean..think if I'm reading BucBacker's picks, I'd be going opposite..
    Good Luck man..........
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    "im not so sure if thats a good thing or not"
     
    Hey kbit--LOL, know exactly what you mean..think if I'm reading BucBacker's picks, I'd be going opposite..
    Good Luck man..........
     
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    Posted: Dec. 26, 2008 - 9:47 PM ET #86

    PEOPLE ITS CALLED GAMING GET IT
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    Posted: Dec. 26, 2008 - 11:26 PM ET #87

    There ya go BucBacker!!
     
    Now its time to go on a roll! Great call. Things are going to start to get better for you now. I can feel it. What are your thoughts for tomorrow?
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    There ya go BucBacker!!
     
    Now its time to go on a roll! Great call. Things are going to start to get better for you now. I can feel it. What are your thoughts for tomorrow?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 26, 2008 - 11:35 PM ET #88

    Finally got a few breaks, huh...hopefully, norms will hold a bit truer now that the shit-teams pretty much done...
    Will have Sat picks with write-ups on between 11:30-noon EST.  One *2*, one *3*, and our 1st *5*....
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    Finally got a few breaks, huh...hopefully, norms will hold a bit truer now that the shit-teams pretty much done...
    Will have Sat picks with write-ups on between 11:30-noon EST.  One *2*, one *3*, and our 1st *5*....
     
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    Posted: Dec. 26, 2008 - 11:41 PM ET #89

    BucBacker,
     
    Cant wait to hear them. BOL tomorrow and lets get this thing rolling.
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    Cant wait to hear them. BOL tomorrow and lets get this thing rolling.
     
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    Buc nice write ups anxiously awaiting your 11:30 write ups.
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    Buc nice write ups anxiously awaiting your 11:30 write ups.
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    tic tock 12:00
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    Following FAU upset last night, SU Bowl winners now stand 7-1 ATS this Season (3 outright dogs).  Sooner or later, expect the points to figure in the equation!!
    Also, since write-ups may mention the "stat factor", note that Bowl winners have won "stats" 7 of 8 thus far...


    OMEINEKE CAR CARE BOWL--Virtually a homer for NC, the game sold out and surely conditions will favor the TarHeels.  From a handicapping standpoint, this match-up can be summarized in two words.  Pat White.  WVU has won 3 consecutive Bowls, last year nailing OKLA by 20.  In '06 WV (i.e. Pat White!) rallied from 18 down to beat GaTech.  In White's "Bowl Career", WVU has scored AT LEAST 38 ppg.  Bothered by injuries much of this season, White is healthy here and will be the most athletic, dominating player on this field.  With 26 Seniors on the roster, he's got plenty of support and experience behind him.  1st year Coach Stewart has taken heat in Morgantown all season, alumni not happy with his hire to replace Rich Rodriguez.  Keep in mind, Stewart was the Offensive Co-ordinator during current streak of Bowl wins!  NC will certainly have the "eye of the tiger" behind Butch Davis and this Home crowd.  Haven't been Bowling since a loss to BC in '04.  TarHeels stumbled down the stretch and were an inconsistent unit all season with some quality wins (BC, GaTech) but plenty of stumbles (NCSt., Mary, VA).  And never faced an opponent with near the athleticism of Pat White.  NC indeed an improved up-and-coming program.  But in a nutshell, I do not believe they can stop Pat White.  I do not believe they can contain Pat White.  And in his final game, I do not think they can slow Pat White down.  And while Butch Davis may be a well-respected Coach, he is hardly considered an upper-tier game planner or big-gamer.  A final HUGE INTANGIBLE that was previously touched upon.  Bill Stewart.  I have mentioned earlier the "first-year" coach in a Bowl Game and the lean to go against one.  Think we have the opposite situation here of note:  first, as mentioned, Stewart has been with this program...and to Bowl Games.  Secondly, more importantly...26 Seniors here that have been with Stewart thru the thick and the thin.  They KNOW he's under a LOT of heat in Morgantown....and they truly love this man!  The man that stood behind them when Rodriguez sold them down the river!  They know they have NOT played up to capabilities all season and Stewart took the heat.  They are the superior Program with better athletes on both sides of the ball that always seem to gel and turn-it-up-a-notch in a Bowl atmosphere.  Expect maybe NC will hang thru the 1st half.  Then expect White to put Stewart, fellow Seniors, and all of Morgantown on his shoulders and put an exclamation point on a record-setting career!  WEST VIRGINIA -2   *2*
     
    CHAMPS SPORTS BOWL--A perennial Bowler that LOVES to run the football, play defense, and knows how to win!  WOW...we have two here!  Expect this one to go down to the wire and truly believe this one again decided on the intangibles.  Wisky started the season strongly, high expectations, and up to #8 national ranking.  Then a giveaway loss to a lowly Michigan team after leading 19-0.  And then the Buckeyes, Penn St, and and Iowa.  Finished with a 1 pt OT win vs. an outmanned, outpowered CalPoly (?!?!) team at HOME!  Kinda tough to get yourself up for a team like that?  But they're 13-4 ATS out of the Big10, a veteran squad with a highly regarded Coach.  And of note, dogs in Wisky Bowl Games have cashed 7 of last 9! FSU on a recent 3-5 SU Bowl record and an Orlando crowd strongly to 'Noles' advantage.  Wisky has always matched-up well against the "speed" teams and has balance and a style of play that could control the clock.  They also have an Offensive Line averaging 320 that should allow for them to run the ball and utilize clock.  As much as they stumbled down the stretch, WISKY won the stat-war in each of their final 6 games; as I noted earlier, stat-winners are outright winners 80% of the time!  Physical Big10 dogs with rest (other than OSU!) have traditionally been solid plays.  AnAdd a 48-17 Bowl Angle, another 20-5 Bowl Angle, and a handful of points, and we'll make the Badgers of WISCONSIN + 6  our 1st **5** STRONG+PLAY
     
    EMERALD BOWL--Another "home" game here, virtually all the handicapping tools favor the home Golden Bears here.  Schedule strengths, athleticism, experience.  QB problems for Miami.  Think in a regular season game, I'm all over a home Cal team.  But this isn't regular season and we're looking at (what we think) a few intangibles that work in the favor of a TD+ dog!  Randy Shannon with a RESTED squad can flat out coach.  He has speed, he has athletes, he has a defense, and he has special teams.  STRONG special teams.  And did I mention...he has SPEED!!  CAL has won with speed.  Not a "given" with PAC 10 teams...and Miami has a few LB's that could make this interesting.  Don't know if CAL will rush with the same success against this "D" unit, and QB Longshore's throwing success has been anything but consistent this year.   Note that CAL finished the season on a 0-3 "stat run".  Last year, an un-prepared, un-motivated CAL team showed-up at the Armed Services Bowl and let Air Force run up-and-down the field on them.  Dug themselves a big hole, then watched AF QB blow-out a knee attempting to score right before the half; AF never recovered, Cal got their act together, and came from behind to win by a TD.  This year's Miami squad a lot bigger...a lot more physical..a lot quicker..than last year's AF squad.  Cal had better be prepared moreso than they were last year.  Miami stayed home last year.  A traditional Bowl team, 23 Upperclassmen should be motivated to be back in the mix.  Should be motivated by reading for a month they're outclassed.   Maybe they are, that's why they play the Game!   did,This one hits the same 48-17 Angle that Wisky did and also hits a BOWL Fade angle that is 14-2.  Grab the points, a lot closer than everyone's expecting!  MIAMI + 10  *3*
     
    GOOD LUCK!!  Go Dogs Go....
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    Following FAU upset last night, SU Bowl winners now stand 7-1 ATS this Season (3 outright dogs).  Sooner or later, expect the points to figure in the equation!!
    Also, since write-ups may mention the "stat factor", note that Bowl winners have won "stats" 7 of 8 thus far...


    OMEINEKE CAR CARE BOWL--Virtually a homer for NC, the game sold out and surely conditions will favor the TarHeels.  From a handicapping standpoint, this match-up can be summarized in two words.  Pat White.  WVU has won 3 consecutive Bowls, last year nailing OKLA by 20.  In '06 WV (i.e. Pat White!) rallied from 18 down to beat GaTech.  In White's "Bowl Career", WVU has scored AT LEAST 38 ppg.  Bothered by injuries much of this season, White is healthy here and will be the most athletic, dominating player on this field.  With 26 Seniors on the roster, he's got plenty of support and experience behind him.  1st year Coach Stewart has taken heat in Morgantown all season, alumni not happy with his hire to replace Rich Rodriguez.  Keep in mind, Stewart was the Offensive Co-ordinator during current streak of Bowl wins!  NC will certainly have the "eye of the tiger" behind Butch Davis and this Home crowd.  Haven't been Bowling since a loss to BC in '04.  TarHeels stumbled down the stretch and were an inconsistent unit all season with some quality wins (BC, GaTech) but plenty of stumbles (NCSt., Mary, VA).  And never faced an opponent with near the athleticism of Pat White.  NC indeed an improved up-and-coming program.  But in a nutshell, I do not believe they can stop Pat White.  I do not believe they can contain Pat White.  And in his final game, I do not think they can slow Pat White down.  And while Butch Davis may be a well-respected Coach, he is hardly considered an upper-tier game planner or big-gamer.  A final HUGE INTANGIBLE that was previously touched upon.  Bill Stewart.  I have mentioned earlier the "first-year" coach in a Bowl Game and the lean to go against one.  Think we have the opposite situation here of note:  first, as mentioned, Stewart has been with this program...and to Bowl Games.  Secondly, more importantly...26 Seniors here that have been with Stewart thru the thick and the thin.  They KNOW he's under a LOT of heat in Morgantown....and they truly love this man!  The man that stood behind them when Rodriguez sold them down the river!  They know they have NOT played up to capabilities all season and Stewart took the heat.  They are the superior Program with better athletes on both sides of the ball that always seem to gel and turn-it-up-a-notch in a Bowl atmosphere.  Expect maybe NC will hang thru the 1st half.  Then expect White to put Stewart, fellow Seniors, and all of Morgantown on his shoulders and put an exclamation point on a record-setting career!  WEST VIRGINIA -2   *2*
     
    CHAMPS SPORTS BOWL--A perennial Bowler that LOVES to run the football, play defense, and knows how to win!  WOW...we have two here!  Expect this one to go down to the wire and truly believe this one again decided on the intangibles.  Wisky started the season strongly, high expectations, and up to #8 national ranking.  Then a giveaway loss to a lowly Michigan team after leading 19-0.  And then the Buckeyes, Penn St, and and Iowa.  Finished with a 1 pt OT win vs. an outmanned, outpowered CalPoly (?!?!) team at HOME!  Kinda tough to get yourself up for a team like that?  But they're 13-4 ATS out of the Big10, a veteran squad with a highly regarded Coach.  And of note, dogs in Wisky Bowl Games have cashed 7 of last 9! FSU on a recent 3-5 SU Bowl record and an Orlando crowd strongly to 'Noles' advantage.  Wisky has always matched-up well against the "speed" teams and has balance and a style of play that could control the clock.  They also have an Offensive Line averaging 320 that should allow for them to run the ball and utilize clock.  As much as they stumbled down the stretch, WISKY won the stat-war in each of their final 6 games; as I noted earlier, stat-winners are outright winners 80% of the time!  Physical Big10 dogs with rest (other than OSU!) have traditionally been solid plays.  AnAdd a 48-17 Bowl Angle, another 20-5 Bowl Angle, and a handful of points, and we'll make the Badgers of WISCONSIN + 6  our 1st **5** STRONG+PLAY
     
    EMERALD BOWL--Another "home" game here, virtually all the handicapping tools favor the home Golden Bears here.  Schedule strengths, athleticism, experience.  QB problems for Miami.  Think in a regular season game, I'm all over a home Cal team.  But this isn't regular season and we're looking at (what we think) a few intangibles that work in the favor of a TD+ dog!  Randy Shannon with a RESTED squad can flat out coach.  He has speed, he has athletes, he has a defense, and he has special teams.  STRONG special teams.  And did I mention...he has SPEED!!  CAL has won with speed.  Not a "given" with PAC 10 teams...and Miami has a few LB's that could make this interesting.  Don't know if CAL will rush with the same success against this "D" unit, and QB Longshore's throwing success has been anything but consistent this year.   Note that CAL finished the season on a 0-3 "stat run".  Last year, an un-prepared, un-motivated CAL team showed-up at the Armed Services Bowl and let Air Force run up-and-down the field on them.  Dug themselves a big hole, then watched AF QB blow-out a knee attempting to score right before the half; AF never recovered, Cal got their act together, and came from behind to win by a TD.  This year's Miami squad a lot bigger...a lot more physical..a lot quicker..than last year's AF squad.  Cal had better be prepared moreso than they were last year.  Miami stayed home last year.  A traditional Bowl team, 23 Upperclassmen should be motivated to be back in the mix.  Should be motivated by reading for a month they're outclassed.   Maybe they are, that's why they play the Game!   did,This one hits the same 48-17 Angle that Wisky did and also hits a BOWL Fade angle that is 14-2.  Grab the points, a lot closer than everyone's expecting!  MIAMI + 10  *3*
     
    GOOD LUCK!!  Go Dogs Go....
     
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    GL
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2008 - 12:52 PM ET #94

    I LOVE THE BADGERS TODAY!!!

    GL

     in da bank!

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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2008 - 1:25 PM ET #95

    Wow im kinda surprised BucBacker. Would have thought you would be on Cal on this one. Im on WVU, FSU, and Cal today. I just think Miami has all sorts of problems that will lead onto the field today in what is essentially a road game. I also got the game at -8 not -10 but im not sure that will make much of a difference anyway. Im not huge on FSU, just kind of a hunch i guess. Wisconsin usually does well in bowl games. BOL, but not to much today! kidding. Hope all is well.
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    Wow im kinda surprised BucBacker. Would have thought you would be on Cal on this one. Im on WVU, FSU, and Cal today. I just think Miami has all sorts of problems that will lead onto the field today in what is essentially a road game. I also got the game at -8 not -10 but im not sure that will make much of a difference anyway. Im not huge on FSU, just kind of a hunch i guess. Wisconsin usually does well in bowl games. BOL, but not to much today! kidding. Hope all is well.
     
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    The writeups are great but the results are brutal.  Think I have to take Bobby B and them Noles.  GL
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    The writeups are great but the results are brutal.  Think I have to take Bobby B and them Noles.  GL
     
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    Posted: Dec. 27, 2008 - 4:19 PM ET #97

    BB backed off WV caught a break with NC with ya on Wisc.
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    I would like to thank Pat White for forcing that INT at the end of the first half when WVU was in easy field goal position. People are making him out to be the hero for winning the game, and maybe they should. In my book though, he is the goat that couldn't cover the spread cause he though for one play he was John Elway.
     
    Thank You Patrick, Thank You so much.
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    I would like to thank Pat White for forcing that INT at the end of the first half when WVU was in easy field goal position. People are making him out to be the hero for winning the game, and maybe they should. In my book though, he is the goat that couldn't cover the spread cause he though for one play he was John Elway.
     
    Thank You Patrick, Thank You so much.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbit:

    I would like to thank Pat White for forcing that INT at the end of the first half when WVU was in easy field goal position. People are making him out to be the hero for winning the game, and maybe they should. In my book though, he is the goat that couldn't cover the spread cause he though for one play he was John Elway.
     
    Thank You Patrick, Thank You so much.


    I say fuck you Pat White for mossing my first half WV bet .
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbit:

    I would like to thank Pat White for forcing that INT at the end of the first half when WVU was in easy field goal position. People are making him out to be the hero for winning the game, and maybe they should. In my book though, he is the goat that couldn't cover the spread cause he though for one play he was John Elway.
     
    Thank You Patrick, Thank You so much.


    I say fuck you Pat White for mossing my first half WV bet .
     
     
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    damn eli,
     
    tell us how you really feel
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