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    BucBacker
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2008 - 3:10 PM ET #1

    To those of you that have contacted me:
     
    I have spent some 50+ hrs. doing my initial SYSTEM run-thru of the 68 Bowl teams.  In addition to the System parameters, as mentioned in an earlier thread, I also search each team for 12 Bowl-specific situational angles (not to be confused with "trends", there's a difference!).  Time consuming, yes, but based on previous years, will  consider anything less than 75% (except for "leans", see below) a total kick-in-the-ass!
     
    I will post ALL 34 Games within an hour of their kick-off.  Apologies for time constraints here, but actually have players subscribing for these picks, they get fed first!!
     
    EACH GAME WILL BE RATED AS FOLLOWS/NO EXCEPTIONS:
     
    "1" UNIT is a "Lean" Only: SYSTEM numerical is NOT met, may or may not have angle-qualifiers
     
    "2" UNIT meets Regular SYSTEM numerical with 0-1 angle-qualifiers
     
    "3" UNIT meets Reg-SYSTEM with 2 or more angle qualifiers
     
    "4" UNIT is a STRONG SYSTEM with 0-1 qualifier
     
    "5" UNIT is a STRONG SYSTEM with 2 or more qualifiers
     
    Also will post an UNDERDOG BOWL PLAY and BEST BOWL BET (One will go Dec. 30, the other 31st)
     
    As always suggested...not trying to talk anyone into or out of a play...just trying to give enough sound info to make alot of money; what you do with the info is entirely up to you.  You're gonna see some public picks and you're gonna see some "what the F@#K?" picks, nobody's gonna agree 100%.  But they will make you money!!  Good Luck!
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    To those of you that have contacted me:
     
    I have spent some 50+ hrs. doing my initial SYSTEM run-thru of the 68 Bowl teams.  In addition to the System parameters, as mentioned in an earlier thread, I also search each team for 12 Bowl-specific situational angles (not to be confused with "trends", there's a difference!).  Time consuming, yes, but based on previous years, will  consider anything less than 75% (except for "leans", see below) a total kick-in-the-ass!
     
    I will post ALL 34 Games within an hour of their kick-off.  Apologies for time constraints here, but actually have players subscribing for these picks, they get fed first!!
     
    EACH GAME WILL BE RATED AS FOLLOWS/NO EXCEPTIONS:
     
    "1" UNIT is a "Lean" Only: SYSTEM numerical is NOT met, may or may not have angle-qualifiers
     
    "2" UNIT meets Regular SYSTEM numerical with 0-1 angle-qualifiers
     
    "3" UNIT meets Reg-SYSTEM with 2 or more angle qualifiers
     
    "4" UNIT is a STRONG SYSTEM with 0-1 qualifier
     
    "5" UNIT is a STRONG SYSTEM with 2 or more qualifiers
     
    Also will post an UNDERDOG BOWL PLAY and BEST BOWL BET (One will go Dec. 30, the other 31st)
     
    As always suggested...not trying to talk anyone into or out of a play...just trying to give enough sound info to make alot of money; what you do with the info is entirely up to you.  You're gonna see some public picks and you're gonna see some "what the F@#K?" picks, nobody's gonna agree 100%.  But they will make you money!!  Good Luck!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2008 - 3:19 PM ET #2

    bucbacker,

    thanks for all the work !!! Looking forward to the plays !!!!

    anna31204

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    bucbacker,

    thanks for all the work !!! Looking forward to the plays !!!!

    anna31204

     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 6:55 AM ET #3

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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2008 - 7:32 AM ET #4

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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2008 - 1:47 PM ET #5

    Can't wait to see the picks, Good Luck!
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    Can't wait to see the picks, Good Luck!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 17, 2008 - 10:26 PM ET #6

    any previews??? wont be around after friday.....
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    any previews??? wont be around after friday.....
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2008 - 10:06 AM ET #7

    Train--apologies, no previews for the reason I've listed above.  Also need late game info, weather, etc. before coming up with a conclusive "1-5" System rating...take your laptop with you if you're leaving Friday!!
     
    I have a few opinions floating around on a few other "pick" threads.  Cannot state at this time the final strength of the games...as a lot can happen between now and kick-off's...but I've stated on other threads I think there is a lot of value with BYU (I think you Train like the other side?), Utah, and Penn St.
    Not saying at this point any of the three are top-rated plays...just saying there's a lot of value in the current lines...
     
    Good luck..remember one thing, 'cause it'll definitely happen in a few of these Bowl Games...Good bets lose everyday, Bad bets win everyday...so pick your "Good Bets" wisely..
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    Train--apologies, no previews for the reason I've listed above.  Also need late game info, weather, etc. before coming up with a conclusive "1-5" System rating...take your laptop with you if you're leaving Friday!!
     
    I have a few opinions floating around on a few other "pick" threads.  Cannot state at this time the final strength of the games...as a lot can happen between now and kick-off's...but I've stated on other threads I think there is a lot of value with BYU (I think you Train like the other side?), Utah, and Penn St.
    Not saying at this point any of the three are top-rated plays...just saying there's a lot of value in the current lines...
     
    Good luck..remember one thing, 'cause it'll definitely happen in a few of these Bowl Games...Good bets lose everyday, Bad bets win everyday...so pick your "Good Bets" wisely..
     
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    Posted: Dec. 18, 2008 - 1:06 PM ET #8

    looking forward to your picks...good luck
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    looking forward to your picks...good luck
     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2008 - 10:47 AM ET #9

    A new avatar for the Bowls then we'll return to fightin' animal abuse...
     
    OK GUYS, 24+ hrs to kick-off and hopefully some bulging pockets!  One early pick already posted on "Paybacks.." thread if you can get the Stagg Bowl down..
     
    **Just a reminder...all 34 Games will be posted and RATED by strength of plays, refer to initial post in this thread...games rated as a "1" LEAN-only will NOT be counted in total % tally.  To any Money Line players, this System suggests any rated "4"/"5" (if dog) worth a look!**
     
    So Buckle-Up, get ready, and have some fun...and cash some bets!! 
    Good luck..and as stated earlier, it's definitely gonna happen in a few of these Games...Good bets lose everyday, Bad bets win everyday...so make your "Good Bets" wisely..
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    A new avatar for the Bowls then we'll return to fightin' animal abuse...
     
    OK GUYS, 24+ hrs to kick-off and hopefully some bulging pockets!  One early pick already posted on "Paybacks.." thread if you can get the Stagg Bowl down..
     
    **Just a reminder...all 34 Games will be posted and RATED by strength of plays, refer to initial post in this thread...games rated as a "1" LEAN-only will NOT be counted in total % tally.  To any Money Line players, this System suggests any rated "4"/"5" (if dog) worth a look!**
     
    So Buckle-Up, get ready, and have some fun...and cash some bets!! 
    Good luck..and as stated earlier, it's definitely gonna happen in a few of these Games...Good bets lose everyday, Bad bets win everyday...so make your "Good Bets" wisely..
     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2008 - 2:23 PM ET #10

    what have been your past pcts using this system
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    what have been your past pcts using this system
     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2008 - 2:48 PM ET #11

    You can do the math...last year had 32 Bowl Games, of which 24 qualified under our System parameters...
    Regular Plays went 10-4 ATS
    Strong Plays went 8-2 with 6 outright Dogs...
     
    This year should be better as we've tweaked a few intangibles and 2 situational angles (now total 12)....
     
    Will win a few this year...
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    You can do the math...last year had 32 Bowl Games, of which 24 qualified under our System parameters...
    Regular Plays went 10-4 ATS
    Strong Plays went 8-2 with 6 outright Dogs...
     
    This year should be better as we've tweaked a few intangibles and 2 situational angles (now total 12)....
     
    Will win a few this year...
     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2008 - 8:46 PM ET #12

    Im excited for you bucbacker and will watch for your threads. .
     
    BOL
     
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    Im excited for you bucbacker and will watch for your threads. .
     
    BOL
     
     
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    Good Luck.

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    Good Luck.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2008 - 9:39 PM ET #14

    Hope to have Picks (with logic write-ups for 1st day!) on no later than 10:15 EST.  As of now, barring any tornado's, acts of God,  team bus-wrecks...or crazy line swings, we'll have 1 "Lean",  2  *2* UNIT, and 1 *4* UNIT
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    Hope to have Picks (with logic write-ups for 1st day!) on no later than 10:15 EST.  As of now, barring any tornado's, acts of God,  team bus-wrecks...or crazy line swings, we'll have 1 "Lean",  2  *2* UNIT, and 1 *4* UNIT
     
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    Posted: Dec. 19, 2008 - 11:50 PM ET #16

    so which is part of your 75% system? just the rated  plays with  units? no leans?
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    so which is part of your 75% system? just the rated  plays with  units? no leans?
     
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    OK, here we go.....  Again, reference the top post here to reference the strength's of our plays.  Won't promise this through the entire 34 Games, but since time permits (actually doing this FRI nite), will add a bit of logic here.  Might not hit 'em all...but trust this System, you'll be ahead.  I don't expect 100% agreement...don't even expect 50% on some, and really don't care much about other opinions as our play's are in and won't change.  Lines listed current as of 8:50 a.m. EST.                             Lastly, remember: "1"s are LEANS ONLY!!  BEST OF LUCK!!
     
    CONGRESSIONAL BOWL--Pretty much a homer for Navy, figures to be a low-scoring game.  Middies closed the season with 2 shut-outs.  Wake is not much of a scoring machine; if it should turn into a shoot-out, think Navy can match 'em!  Won the first game @ Wake as 17 pt dogs; I know Wake backers will blame 6 TO's for that.  Keep in mind Navy was already up 16-0 and lost their QB to injury...well guess what, he's back and 100%!  30+ seniors on this squad, with a better rushing attack, weather conditions that'll be in their favor, and Wake traditionally a poor favorite play, as well as a poor road play.  The revenge factor can only carry a team so far.  Two years ago, Navy lost by 1 pt to BC in the last minute; last year they lost by 3 to a Utah team that is this year 12-0 and in a BCS Bowl.  Wrong favorite here.  NAVY +3  *2* SYSTEM
     
    NEW MEXICO BOWL--Fresno one of the major disappointments of the year, lots of hype off last season, a fast start...then an injury or two, or three..the season went ugly and unravelled.  Finished the season with a 1-10 ATS run.  Colo St finished above expectations with a 1st year Coach, gave both TCU and AF a tussle.  Their first bowl since 2000, think they are EXCITED to be Bowling while Fresno would rather think about what should've been.  A healthy Fresno, all the advantages and the better athletes, could run wild here.  But I'm guessing the intangibles and the thrill of being here can  carry COLO ST +2.5  *1* (lean only)
     
    ST PETE BOWL--A homer for USF here, the Bulls only 3-8 ATS as a fave.  Grothe alot of TO's lately, hopefully a few more today!  Memphis has not been a strong Roadie this year, have TO problems of their own, and their "D" has been a sieve!   But figure to score enough to keep within a big number.  Note that USW was out-statted 1-3 its last 4 games, while Memphis finished on a 4-0 stat-run advantage.  27 Seniors should be pumped to be here, after losing 1st 3 games...don't see USF overly excited about going no-where after a disappointing year.  Hold the ball Tigers! 
    MEMPHIS + 12 *2* SYSTEM
     
    LAS VEGAS BOWL--Just listened to ESPN's Kirk Herbstreit pick ZONA here, last I knew he got paid to announce and not pick winners.  Seems AZ everyone's "hot" media team this year.  A SYSTEM Qualifier and love the intangibles here!  BYU has had a couple weeks to read how AZ the better team here..even though they've beaten 2 PAC 10 teams this year and destroyed a New Mex team that whacked AZ.  BYU has won last 2 Bowl Games...both vs. PAC10 teams.  For those that don't look at rosters, BYU's SMALLEST off.-lineman weighs 320...AZ's BIGGEST def.-lineman weighs 270!!  Quite a difference...in a game in a town just hit by a snowstorm and cold temperatures that a ARIZ team isn't gonna like...kinda easier to run than to pass, so look for the conditions to hinder AZ speed advantage.  BYU has 30 Seniors with Bowl experience and the Mountain West was 6-1 SU last year's Bowls.  BYU HAS WON 10 STRAIGHT ON THIS FIELD!  Lastly, superior Special Team play.  Stoops and AZ no Bowl experience, last Bowl in '98...no doubt, they'll be excited to be here, but don't think the adrenaline alone will pull this one out.  Just not enough firepower to match the Coug's, esp. on an off-track field...that BYU has owned!   BYU +3.5  *4* STRONG SYSTEM
     
    GOOD LUCK---will post TROY/SOU MISS after 4 EST SUN
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    OK, here we go.....  Again, reference the top post here to reference the strength's of our plays.  Won't promise this through the entire 34 Games, but since time permits (actually doing this FRI nite), will add a bit of logic here.  Might not hit 'em all...but trust this System, you'll be ahead.  I don't expect 100% agreement...don't even expect 50% on some, and really don't care much about other opinions as our play's are in and won't change.  Lines listed current as of 8:50 a.m. EST.                             Lastly, remember: "1"s are LEANS ONLY!!  BEST OF LUCK!!
     
    CONGRESSIONAL BOWL--Pretty much a homer for Navy, figures to be a low-scoring game.  Middies closed the season with 2 shut-outs.  Wake is not much of a scoring machine; if it should turn into a shoot-out, think Navy can match 'em!  Won the first game @ Wake as 17 pt dogs; I know Wake backers will blame 6 TO's for that.  Keep in mind Navy was already up 16-0 and lost their QB to injury...well guess what, he's back and 100%!  30+ seniors on this squad, with a better rushing attack, weather conditions that'll be in their favor, and Wake traditionally a poor favorite play, as well as a poor road play.  The revenge factor can only carry a team so far.  Two years ago, Navy lost by 1 pt to BC in the last minute; last year they lost by 3 to a Utah team that is this year 12-0 and in a BCS Bowl.  Wrong favorite here.  NAVY +3  *2* SYSTEM
     
    NEW MEXICO BOWL--Fresno one of the major disappointments of the year, lots of hype off last season, a fast start...then an injury or two, or three..the season went ugly and unravelled.  Finished the season with a 1-10 ATS run.  Colo St finished above expectations with a 1st year Coach, gave both TCU and AF a tussle.  Their first bowl since 2000, think they are EXCITED to be Bowling while Fresno would rather think about what should've been.  A healthy Fresno, all the advantages and the better athletes, could run wild here.  But I'm guessing the intangibles and the thrill of being here can  carry COLO ST +2.5  *1* (lean only)
     
    ST PETE BOWL--A homer for USF here, the Bulls only 3-8 ATS as a fave.  Grothe alot of TO's lately, hopefully a few more today!  Memphis has not been a strong Roadie this year, have TO problems of their own, and their "D" has been a sieve!   But figure to score enough to keep within a big number.  Note that USW was out-statted 1-3 its last 4 games, while Memphis finished on a 4-0 stat-run advantage.  27 Seniors should be pumped to be here, after losing 1st 3 games...don't see USF overly excited about going no-where after a disappointing year.  Hold the ball Tigers! 
    MEMPHIS + 12 *2* SYSTEM
     
    LAS VEGAS BOWL--Just listened to ESPN's Kirk Herbstreit pick ZONA here, last I knew he got paid to announce and not pick winners.  Seems AZ everyone's "hot" media team this year.  A SYSTEM Qualifier and love the intangibles here!  BYU has had a couple weeks to read how AZ the better team here..even though they've beaten 2 PAC 10 teams this year and destroyed a New Mex team that whacked AZ.  BYU has won last 2 Bowl Games...both vs. PAC10 teams.  For those that don't look at rosters, BYU's SMALLEST off.-lineman weighs 320...AZ's BIGGEST def.-lineman weighs 270!!  Quite a difference...in a game in a town just hit by a snowstorm and cold temperatures that a ARIZ team isn't gonna like...kinda easier to run than to pass, so look for the conditions to hinder AZ speed advantage.  BYU has 30 Seniors with Bowl experience and the Mountain West was 6-1 SU last year's Bowls.  BYU HAS WON 10 STRAIGHT ON THIS FIELD!  Lastly, superior Special Team play.  Stoops and AZ no Bowl experience, last Bowl in '98...no doubt, they'll be excited to be here, but don't think the adrenaline alone will pull this one out.  Just not enough firepower to match the Coug's, esp. on an off-track field...that BYU has owned!   BYU +3.5  *4* STRONG SYSTEM
     
    GOOD LUCK---will post TROY/SOU MISS after 4 EST SUN
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2008 - 10:28 AM ET #18

    thank you
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    thank you
     
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    .....lets win som cash...
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    .....lets win som cash...
     
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    Good-luck Buc  &  thanks for all the time put into this I like reading your write-ups
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    Good-luck Buc  &  thanks for all the time put into this I like reading your write-ups
     
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    Meeka--if that's you, or one of yours in the avatar...I thank you!!
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    Meeka--if that's you, or one of yours in the avatar...I thank you!!
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BucBacker:

    You can do the math...last year had 32 Bowl Games, of which 24 qualified under our System parameters...
    Regular Plays went 10-4 ATS
    Strong Plays went 8-2 with 6 outright Dogs...
     
    This year should be better as we've tweaked a few intangibles and 2 situational angles (now total 12)....
     
    Will win a few this year...

     

    i am doing the math it this 0-3 with your 75% bowl system plays so now you need to go like 85% just to get to 75%

     

    memphis should have lost by 60

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    Quote Originally Posted by BucBacker:

    You can do the math...last year had 32 Bowl Games, of which 24 qualified under our System parameters...
    Regular Plays went 10-4 ATS
    Strong Plays went 8-2 with 6 outright Dogs...
     
    This year should be better as we've tweaked a few intangibles and 2 situational angles (now total 12)....
     
    Will win a few this year...

     

    i am doing the math it this 0-3 with your 75% bowl system plays so now you need to go like 85% just to get to 75%

     

    memphis should have lost by 60

     
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    Yep, Memphis shoulda lost by 60...what's the difference, 1pt or 60
    Navy shoulda won...
    Woulda, coulda, shoulda...one day of Bowls, think 31 to go?
    How'd your picks do?  Let me guess...4-0?
    Re-check your Math..it's not too good..
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    Yep, Memphis shoulda lost by 60...what's the difference, 1pt or 60
    Navy shoulda won...
    Woulda, coulda, shoulda...one day of Bowls, think 31 to go?
    How'd your picks do?  Let me guess...4-0?
    Re-check your Math..it's not too good..
     
     
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    Hey Allin--next time you wanna be cool and throw salt in someone's wounds...better wait till the last three minutes are over.  Wow...what would u have done if BYU woulda scored after getting that onside kick?  Then you'd have to eat some crow and re-do the math assignment.  You're still cool though, tell Juve hello..
    And remember...they play 4 quarters..every game they do!!  Sometimes a little extra too..
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    Hey Allin--next time you wanna be cool and throw salt in someone's wounds...better wait till the last three minutes are over.  Wow...what would u have done if BYU woulda scored after getting that onside kick?  Then you'd have to eat some crow and re-do the math assignment.  You're still cool though, tell Juve hello..
    And remember...they play 4 quarters..every game they do!!  Sometimes a little extra too..
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