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    Washington at Green Bay (09/15/2013)

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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2013 - 2:55 AM ET #1

    Away:  Washington [0-1 ATS]
    Home:  Green Bay [0-1 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Lambeau Field

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Washington:
    Passing: Robert Griffin III (329)
    Rushing: Alfred Morris (45)
    Receiving: Leonard Hankerson (80)

    Green Bay:
    Passing: Aaron Rodgers (333)
    Rushing: Eddie Lacy (41)
    Receiving: Jordy Nelson (130)

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    Away:  Washington [0-1 ATS]
    Home:  Green Bay [0-1 ATS]

    Game Time: 1:00 PM
    Stadium: Lambeau Field

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    Washington:
    Passing: Robert Griffin III (329)
    Rushing: Alfred Morris (45)
    Receiving: Leonard Hankerson (80)

    Green Bay:
    Passing: Aaron Rodgers (333)
    Rushing: Eddie Lacy (41)
    Receiving: Jordy Nelson (130)

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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2013 - 7:15 PM ET #2

    Green Bay - 27                                   Washington - 14

    Packers -9.5                                    under 49.5

    I look for the Packer defense to rise to the occasion on Sunday.

    Packers 6-1 ats after allowing 31> points. I'm betting it goes to 7-1 after Sunday's game.

    Green Bay - Under

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    Green Bay - 27                                   Washington - 14

    Packers -9.5                                    under 49.5

    I look for the Packer defense to rise to the occasion on Sunday.

    Packers 6-1 ats after allowing 31> points. I'm betting it goes to 7-1 after Sunday's game.

    Green Bay - Under

     
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    Posted: Sep. 11, 2013 - 7:47 AM ET #3

    Wow Love this play, public pounding Redskins! Taking the Packers and the 10 points!
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    Wow Love this play, public pounding Redskins! Taking the Packers and the 10 points!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 11, 2013 - 2:56 PM ET #4

    I like Skins in this one.  Could be upset.  Packers is weak on pass defense and has poor rush offense.  Skins have excellent pass defense and that's probably all they need.

    Redskins +9.5 = 2.5 units
    Redskins ML = 1 unit


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    I like Skins in this one.  Could be upset.  Packers is weak on pass defense and has poor rush offense.  Skins have excellent pass defense and that's probably all they need.

    Redskins +9.5 = 2.5 units
    Redskins ML = 1 unit


     
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    Posted: Sep. 11, 2013 - 7:43 PM ET #5

    Both defenses reeling after not being able to stop a nose bleed in week 1, id guess GB in their home debut off a loss but staying far away from the spread, but the over looks good to me.
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    Both defenses reeling after not being able to stop a nose bleed in week 1, id guess GB in their home debut off a loss but staying far away from the spread, but the over looks good to me.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 11, 2013 - 8:27 PM ET #6

    under 49.5 , both defenses show up. & keep it under

    packers win 28 - 17

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    under 49.5 , both defenses show up. & keep it under

    packers win 28 - 17

     
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    Posted: Sep. 11, 2013 - 8:27 PM ET #7

    under 49.5 , both defenses show up. & keep it under

    packers win 28 - 17

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    under 49.5 , both defenses show up. & keep it under

    packers win 28 - 17

     
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    Posted: Sep. 11, 2013 - 9:20 PM ET #8

    Redskins and Over
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    Redskins and Over
     
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    Posted: Sep. 12, 2013 - 11:04 PM ET #9

    At first glance, this number seems way too big. The Redskins were a playoff team last year. Well, its only been a week, but the Redskins have a lot to prove this Sunday. I think the their defense is better than what they showed us against Chip Kelly's no-huddle spread offense on steroids. But, what we learned about RG III could be troublesome for Washington this year. Not everyone is as quick to recover from major knee surgery as Adrian Peterson (especially when its your 2nd ACL repair).  

    One of the main reasons the Redskins were such a vastly improved team last year was because they had the #1 rushing offense in the league, rushing for an average of almost 170 yards a game. According to NFL Insider, they ran 118 read option plays last season, which ranked 2nd in the league.  When you have a dangerous threat like RG III, that read option creates major problems for defenses and allows the running back to have much wider running lanes because the defense has to respect the threat of the QB running for a big play. Well, the Redskins only ran 2 read option plays last week against the Eagles, and the net result was negative 6 yards. Clearly, RG III's workload is being reduced either because they don't want him to take unnecessary contact or his knee isn't quite ready for him to be the same explosive player that we enjoyed watching last season. Personally, I think the Redskins front office and the Shanahans are in a jam because they know they can't rack up the miles on their franchise quarterback. Needless to say, RG III without the threat of his legs, is just an average NFL quarterback. And the Redskins offense without the read option is just an average NFL offense that wouldn't look much different if backup Kirk Cousins were the signal caller. 

    In order to compete with a very motivated Packer team that's coming off a tough loss, the Redskins will have to go on long drives and keep Aaron Rodgers off the field and the crowd out of the game. While the Packers secondary looked abysmal last Sunday, I just don't see the Skins going score-for-score with the Packers, who were 4-4 in the redzone against one of the best defenses in the NFL.  Especially given that the Skins had the 30th ranked pass defense last year (only the Saints and Bucs were worse),   

    Obviously, its been only 1 game, so who knows if Shanahan and RG III were just playing it extra safe on Monday night. But from what I saw, I think you have to look at the Redskins as a work in progress until they find out if RG III is capable of taking some hits. The Pack wide receiving corp looked as healthy as they've been in a long time, and now Aaron Rodgers has a somewhat decent running back to run some minutes off the clock when they have a big lead.  

    SKINS 17

    PACK 34 

    Good Luck

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    At first glance, this number seems way too big. The Redskins were a playoff team last year. Well, its only been a week, but the Redskins have a lot to prove this Sunday. I think the their defense is better than what they showed us against Chip Kelly's no-huddle spread offense on steroids. But, what we learned about RG III could be troublesome for Washington this year. Not everyone is as quick to recover from major knee surgery as Adrian Peterson (especially when its your 2nd ACL repair).  

    One of the main reasons the Redskins were such a vastly improved team last year was because they had the #1 rushing offense in the league, rushing for an average of almost 170 yards a game. According to NFL Insider, they ran 118 read option plays last season, which ranked 2nd in the league.  When you have a dangerous threat like RG III, that read option creates major problems for defenses and allows the running back to have much wider running lanes because the defense has to respect the threat of the QB running for a big play. Well, the Redskins only ran 2 read option plays last week against the Eagles, and the net result was negative 6 yards. Clearly, RG III's workload is being reduced either because they don't want him to take unnecessary contact or his knee isn't quite ready for him to be the same explosive player that we enjoyed watching last season. Personally, I think the Redskins front office and the Shanahans are in a jam because they know they can't rack up the miles on their franchise quarterback. Needless to say, RG III without the threat of his legs, is just an average NFL quarterback. And the Redskins offense without the read option is just an average NFL offense that wouldn't look much different if backup Kirk Cousins were the signal caller. 

    In order to compete with a very motivated Packer team that's coming off a tough loss, the Redskins will have to go on long drives and keep Aaron Rodgers off the field and the crowd out of the game. While the Packers secondary looked abysmal last Sunday, I just don't see the Skins going score-for-score with the Packers, who were 4-4 in the redzone against one of the best defenses in the NFL.  Especially given that the Skins had the 30th ranked pass defense last year (only the Saints and Bucs were worse),   

    Obviously, its been only 1 game, so who knows if Shanahan and RG III were just playing it extra safe on Monday night. But from what I saw, I think you have to look at the Redskins as a work in progress until they find out if RG III is capable of taking some hits. The Pack wide receiving corp looked as healthy as they've been in a long time, and now Aaron Rodgers has a somewhat decent running back to run some minutes off the clock when they have a big lead.  

    SKINS 17

    PACK 34 

    Good Luck

     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2013 - 4:02 AM ET #10

    Redskins +7 1/2
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    Redskins +7 1/2
     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2013 - 10:26 AM ET #11

    Man that's a lot of points! I'm sure A-Rod comes out slingin', but do they take their foot off the gas in the fourth? I was right about the Pats/Jets, and I can see this game going the same way.

    Pack wins / 'Skins cover the 9.5

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    Man that's a lot of points! I'm sure A-Rod comes out slingin', but do they take their foot off the gas in the fourth? I was right about the Pats/Jets, and I can see this game going the same way.

    Pack wins / 'Skins cover the 9.5

     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2013 - 3:53 PM ET #12

         Agreeing with Quad here.

    WASHINGTON     + 9 (Prime Play!)

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         Agreeing with Quad here.

    WASHINGTON     + 9 (Prime Play!)

     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2013 - 4:49 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by vue21849:

         Agreeing with Quad here.

    WASHINGTON     + 9 (Prime Play!)

    Better listen to Sammy Ace boys. He's right about RG's legs. One hit to the legs and he's done for the day !

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    Quote Originally Posted by vue21849:

         Agreeing with Quad here.

    WASHINGTON     + 9 (Prime Play!)

    Better listen to Sammy Ace boys. He's right about RG's legs. One hit to the legs and he's done for the day !

     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2013 - 5:26 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy_Ace:

     Aaron Rodgers has a somewhat decent running back to run some minutes off the clock when they have a big lead.  

     

    ^^ Just remember what you said when the Packers are up by 9 late in the fourth, and A-Rod starts taking a knee. We've all been burned by that half a point foot off the gas loss, and if you say you haven't, you're a liar.....

    As always - Good Luck All!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammy_Ace:

     Aaron Rodgers has a somewhat decent running back to run some minutes off the clock when they have a big lead.  

     

    ^^ Just remember what you said when the Packers are up by 9 late in the fourth, and A-Rod starts taking a knee. We've all been burned by that half a point foot off the gas loss, and if you say you haven't, you're a liar.....

    As always - Good Luck All!!!!!!

     
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    Posted: Sep. 13, 2013 - 11:48 PM ET #15

    rg3 not ready for prime time play!!+7.5

     

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    rg3 not ready for prime time play!!+7.5

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2013 - 12:04 PM ET #16

    A Packer fan I am but I'm not a blind fan.....I said last week I will stay away from betting them this season and will remain true...however,the Packers showed no pass rush last week and some say it was by design and yet a case can be made its because they still can't.The run game has and still is being touted as arrived yet it appears still un-Pack-aged and that isn't by design but because the OL hasn't figured out how to cut the ribbon if it exists.

    Being ahead is key for the Pack and will allow the dedication to a run game by MM,if they are trailing,the tossing of it will coincide with the vey ticking of the clock that was suppose to be a plus via the run.

    The secondary of GB has a lot to prove after the torching of last week and a 'Horse called Boldin' and now play against more than one vs Wash.

    Sammy-Ace says RG3 is an average QB without the use of his legs and that may be true,but the Packers have been known to make even lesser QBs look Immortal....My advice would be the over as the defenses are suspect for both but laying 9 in hopes of an invisible run to date....NO.

    P.S.....The early failure of the run game is responsible for many a three and out...hard to cover nine when you can't get pass 3 plays on 6 possessions...just saying!

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    A Packer fan I am but I'm not a blind fan.....I said last week I will stay away from betting them this season and will remain true...however,the Packers showed no pass rush last week and some say it was by design and yet a case can be made its because they still can't.The run game has and still is being touted as arrived yet it appears still un-Pack-aged and that isn't by design but because the OL hasn't figured out how to cut the ribbon if it exists.

    Being ahead is key for the Pack and will allow the dedication to a run game by MM,if they are trailing,the tossing of it will coincide with the vey ticking of the clock that was suppose to be a plus via the run.

    The secondary of GB has a lot to prove after the torching of last week and a 'Horse called Boldin' and now play against more than one vs Wash.

    Sammy-Ace says RG3 is an average QB without the use of his legs and that may be true,but the Packers have been known to make even lesser QBs look Immortal....My advice would be the over as the defenses are suspect for both but laying 9 in hopes of an invisible run to date....NO.

    P.S.....The early failure of the run game is responsible for many a three and out...hard to cover nine when you can't get pass 3 plays on 6 possessions...just saying!

     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2013 - 10:23 PM ET #17

    All valid points brought up by my fellow degenerates. With only 1 week into the season, it's really hard to get a feel for these teams real strengths and weaknesses. Who knows? Maybe RG III busts off a decent run early on that opens things up for the skins running game. And the Skins pick up from where they left off last season. Or maybe he gives us a similar effort from last week? A dud in the first half, and garbage yards in the 4th quarter. That's why it's hard to have a strong play this early in the season. Real situational betting is my style and we're still a couple weeks away from having solid angles and info about this season. 
    Doesn't this line remind anyone of the Baltimore-Denver season opener? 
    Well GL fellas. I appreciate all the input bc it can only help us all make better decisions.
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    All valid points brought up by my fellow degenerates. With only 1 week into the season, it's really hard to get a feel for these teams real strengths and weaknesses. Who knows? Maybe RG III busts off a decent run early on that opens things up for the skins running game. And the Skins pick up from where they left off last season. Or maybe he gives us a similar effort from last week? A dud in the first half, and garbage yards in the 4th quarter. That's why it's hard to have a strong play this early in the season. Real situational betting is my style and we're still a couple weeks away from having solid angles and info about this season. 
    Doesn't this line remind anyone of the Baltimore-Denver season opener? 
    Well GL fellas. I appreciate all the input bc it can only help us all make better decisions.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2013 - 7:27 AM ET #18

    This one smells like it has "back door cover" all over it...or is it the cheese?  Both teams played in exciting playoff type games last week.  I'm buying the hook down and hoping someone in the Pack secondary doesn't let Hankerson wide open late like last week.  Since there are ZERO decent women in G.B. it looks like the Pimp will be limping to the pay window by himself this week.  Pack -6.5

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    This one smells like it has "back door cover" all over it...or is it the cheese?  Both teams played in exciting playoff type games last week.  I'm buying the hook down and hoping someone in the Pack secondary doesn't let Hankerson wide open late like last week.  Since there are ZERO decent women in G.B. it looks like the Pimp will be limping to the pay window by himself this week.  Pack -6.5

     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2013 - 8:43 AM ET #19

    Neither teem will wanna go 0-2. It gonna also be sloppy n wet @ Lambeau.Truly an element the Packers know well. Good D's can keep any team in a game and the Skins have better D than Packers. As Sammy said,we might see a different RG3 today? can he run? can he scramble? we shall see.

    leening on the Skins for now +7.5

    bol guys
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    Neither teem will wanna go 0-2. It gonna also be sloppy n wet @ Lambeau.Truly an element the Packers know well. Good D's can keep any team in a game and the Skins have better D than Packers. As Sammy said,we might see a different RG3 today? can he run? can he scramble? we shall see.

    leening on the Skins for now +7.5

    bol guys
     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2013 - 8:51 AM ET #20

    btw,, with a wet field n maybe snow they callin? this is a hellava test on a reconstructed knee
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    btw,, with a wet field n maybe snow they callin? this is a hellava test on a reconstructed knee
     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2013 - 9:36 AM ET #21

    RG goes down in the 5th! Gbay actually played decent game last week and woulda covered but got harbaughed by the master shaves man himself...bookie Jim. Gbay for the medium
    If you’re not large, you’re small - the DOC
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    RG goes down in the 5th! Gbay actually played decent game last week and woulda covered but got harbaughed by the master shaves man himself...bookie Jim. Gbay for the medium
     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2013 - 10:41 AM ET #22

    PACKERS at a PICK on a tease. I think the PACK will win, but we never like to cover the spread. Just do not want to be 0 and 2. GLTA
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    PACKERS at a PICK on a tease. I think the PACK will win, but we never like to cover the spread. Just do not want to be 0 and 2. GLTA
     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2013 - 12:21 PM ET #23

    Skins lost by 6 to an Eagles squad that looked a lot better than the Cheese heads did last week

    Love Skins + 9!!!!!!!

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    Skins lost by 6 to an Eagles squad that looked a lot better than the Cheese heads did last week

    Love Skins + 9!!!!!!!

     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2013 - 12:25 PM ET #24

    Redskins +7.5

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    Redskins +7.5

     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 15, 2013 - 1:29 PM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by vue21849:

         Agreeing with Quad here.

    WASHINGTON     + 9 (Prime Play!)


    Agree with the Vueman!! 
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    Quote Originally Posted by vue21849:

         Agreeing with Quad here.

    WASHINGTON     + 9 (Prime Play!)


    Agree with the Vueman!! 
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