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    St. Louis at New York (09/19/2011)

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    voldkoff
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2011 - 3:49 PM ET #26

    going back n forth on the total here, im leaning under. rams are beaten up big time multiple key players are out and a QB with a bum finger and if he does throw it who's he going to throw it too. even before the injury we didnt have no deep field threat, mainly a buch of screens underneath with the occasional wide out and with jacks on out they put in cadiallic hes good no question but can one player make up for a whole team. He is by no means hershell walker.

    I see a bunch of running designs by both teams with the clock being eaten up.  under 44. and lean towards giants to cover the 7.

    input is welcome. not saying i have the crystal ball thats just my perception of could go down tonight.

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    going back n forth on the total here, im leaning under. rams are beaten up big time multiple key players are out and a QB with a bum finger and if he does throw it who's he going to throw it too. even before the injury we didnt have no deep field threat, mainly a buch of screens underneath with the occasional wide out and with jacks on out they put in cadiallic hes good no question but can one player make up for a whole team. He is by no means hershell walker.

    I see a bunch of running designs by both teams with the clock being eaten up.  under 44. and lean towards giants to cover the 7.

    input is welcome. not saying i have the crystal ball thats just my perception of could go down tonight.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2011 - 4:06 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by DrDogs:

    This game smells like stink! Who schedules these dungpiles! But since we only get many before its over...St Louis wont be able to stop the run and if the giants get the run going then it will be slow and ugly game Giants and und for the very small. Hate counting on the giants. Furious


    They schedule stinkers like these to give the bookies a bunch of FREE money because of all the squares who will lay the points with the G-Men here because of cliche things like "home opener" and "Rams banged up" etc...under is equally shaky.  I made this game easy and just teased it...

    Rams+14 and OVER 37 (are you kidding me betting under on MNF!  It's your money lol spend it how you'd like).  LARGE.

    That's how money is made!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrDogs:

    This game smells like stink! Who schedules these dungpiles! But since we only get many before its over...St Louis wont be able to stop the run and if the giants get the run going then it will be slow and ugly game Giants and und for the very small. Hate counting on the giants. Furious


    They schedule stinkers like these to give the bookies a bunch of FREE money because of all the squares who will lay the points with the G-Men here because of cliche things like "home opener" and "Rams banged up" etc...under is equally shaky.  I made this game easy and just teased it...

    Rams+14 and OVER 37 (are you kidding me betting under on MNF!  It's your money lol spend it how you'd like).  LARGE.

    That's how money is made!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2011 - 4:51 PM ET #28

    rams plus 7 over 44
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    rams plus 7 over 44
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2011 - 4:59 PM ET #29

    If this were a normal game, the line wuld be arund three or four points.  But the books know it's Monday night and the NY yahoos will play just about any line for the home team.  Eli is a horrible, inaccurate, pick-prone quarterback who had one hot streak at the right time.  His teams should never be laying seven.

    ST. LOUIS +7

     

     

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    If this were a normal game, the line wuld be arund three or four points.  But the books know it's Monday night and the NY yahoos will play just about any line for the home team.  Eli is a horrible, inaccurate, pick-prone quarterback who had one hot streak at the right time.  His teams should never be laying seven.

    ST. LOUIS +7

     

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2011 - 5:00 PM ET #30

    Where do the Giants get off on giving a touchdown to ANYONE????????? Take the Lambs & that 7.5 - you won't be disappointed............
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    Where do the Giants get off on giving a touchdown to ANYONE????????? Take the Lambs & that 7.5 - you won't be disappointed............
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2011 - 5:04 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by FreeMoneyInc:



    They schedule stinkers like these to give the bookies a bunch of FREE money because of all the squares who will lay the points with the G-Men here because of cliche things like "home opener" and "Rams banged up" etc...under is equally shaky.  I made this game easy and just teased it...

    Rams+14 and OVER 37 (are you kidding me betting under on MNF!  It's your money lol spend it how you'd like).  LARGE.

    That's how money is made!

     

    Rams +14 & Over 37??????????

    where's the "money made" on that?? You probably have to bet triple what you would actually make. You may want to rethink your betting strategies.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeMoneyInc:



    They schedule stinkers like these to give the bookies a bunch of FREE money because of all the squares who will lay the points with the G-Men here because of cliche things like "home opener" and "Rams banged up" etc...under is equally shaky.  I made this game easy and just teased it...

    Rams+14 and OVER 37 (are you kidding me betting under on MNF!  It's your money lol spend it how you'd like).  LARGE.

    That's how money is made!

     

    Rams +14 & Over 37??????????

    where's the "money made" on that?? You probably have to bet triple what you would actually make. You may want to rethink your betting strategies.........

     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2011 - 5:19 PM ET #32

    Rams take this one. I'd lean under.
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    Rams take this one. I'd lean under.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2011 - 5:26 PM ET #33

    Every guy knows the 2 keys to satisfying a woman are having patience and knowing the right way to tease them.  Well, this teaser will take some patience as it will be 6 days before you cash in.  But when you do it will be your Bookie crying like a little girl while you spend his money. 



    2- Team Teaser

    Giants (-½)
    / Patriots (-1½) 

    Part I
    Giants (-½)


    Can a week 2 game really be a 'MUST WIN' in the NFL?  I believe the answer for the Giants is YES.  Looking at their schedule this year which gets much tougher on the back end they absolutely need to get as many wins (especially at home) as they can early on.

    They are facing a Rams team that comes in with key players just as banged up as the G-men.  QB Sam Bradford is expected to wear a glove to protect the finger he injured in last week’s 31-13 loss to the Eagles and RB Steven Jackson is doubtful with an injured quad.  The Rams should also will be without Danny Amendola, last season’s leading receiver and cornerback Ron Bartell.

    The Giants figure to give plenty of carries to Jacobs and Bradshaw who I think can both have a big game.  Eli should benefit from the addition and  experience of veteran receiver Stokley who is said to already be making an impression on the Giants young receivers.  The G-men are expected to get their defensive captain Justin Tuck back on the field tonight as well which is a huge boost for the home team. 

    In addition I beleive the Giants will be energized by the fact they likely wont have to deal with Vick next week at Philly and may very well be facing a rookie in  Kafka (with Vince Young also hurt) for the entire game along with the possibility of getting back DE Osi Umenyiora for their showdown in Philly.

    Knowing that, and the fact that Romo who broke a couple ribs, and all the sudden the Giants are not the only team in the division with serious injury concerns.  This could give the G-men a real chance to turn their 0-1 record around to 2-1 in just 6 days and start believing they can be a player for the division crown.  For the Giants there are no excuses tonight, they MUST win this MNF home opener. 

    Part II
    Patriots (-1½) 

    Brady showing great chemistry with his weapons.  Tight end Gronkowski  (3 TD's ), veteran Branch, and Wes Welker have led the Pats offense to a scorching start for the 2011 campaign.  They have been lighting up the scoreboard to the tune of 73 points in the 1st 2 games.  Expect Ochocinco to get more involved in week 3 as he continues to learn the "awe inspiring" offense of the Pats.

    I just don't see the Pats having any trouble putting up points vs the Bills.  Buffalo may have been able to trade punches with the Raiders, however doing so vs. the Brady bunch who after two weeks has racked up 940 yards and seven touchdowns is a much much taller task. 

    One of these teams is going to be 3-0, and my $$$ says it's Brady and the boys from Boston.
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    Every guy knows the 2 keys to satisfying a woman are having patience and knowing the right way to tease them.  Well, this teaser will take some patience as it will be 6 days before you cash in.  But when you do it will be your Bookie crying like a little girl while you spend his money. 



    2- Team Teaser

    Giants (-½)
    / Patriots (-1½) 

    Part I
    Giants (-½)


    Can a week 2 game really be a 'MUST WIN' in the NFL?  I believe the answer for the Giants is YES.  Looking at their schedule this year which gets much tougher on the back end they absolutely need to get as many wins (especially at home) as they can early on.

    They are facing a Rams team that comes in with key players just as banged up as the G-men.  QB Sam Bradford is expected to wear a glove to protect the finger he injured in last week’s 31-13 loss to the Eagles and RB Steven Jackson is doubtful with an injured quad.  The Rams should also will be without Danny Amendola, last season’s leading receiver and cornerback Ron Bartell.

    The Giants figure to give plenty of carries to Jacobs and Bradshaw who I think can both have a big game.  Eli should benefit from the addition and  experience of veteran receiver Stokley who is said to already be making an impression on the Giants young receivers.  The G-men are expected to get their defensive captain Justin Tuck back on the field tonight as well which is a huge boost for the home team. 

    In addition I beleive the Giants will be energized by the fact they likely wont have to deal with Vick next week at Philly and may very well be facing a rookie in  Kafka (with Vince Young also hurt) for the entire game along with the possibility of getting back DE Osi Umenyiora for their showdown in Philly.

    Knowing that, and the fact that Romo who broke a couple ribs, and all the sudden the Giants are not the only team in the division with serious injury concerns.  This could give the G-men a real chance to turn their 0-1 record around to 2-1 in just 6 days and start believing they can be a player for the division crown.  For the Giants there are no excuses tonight, they MUST win this MNF home opener. 

    Part II
    Patriots (-1½) 

    Brady showing great chemistry with his weapons.  Tight end Gronkowski  (3 TD's ), veteran Branch, and Wes Welker have led the Pats offense to a scorching start for the 2011 campaign.  They have been lighting up the scoreboard to the tune of 73 points in the 1st 2 games.  Expect Ochocinco to get more involved in week 3 as he continues to learn the "awe inspiring" offense of the Pats.

    I just don't see the Pats having any trouble putting up points vs the Bills.  Buffalo may have been able to trade punches with the Raiders, however doing so vs. the Brady bunch who after two weeks has racked up 940 yards and seven touchdowns is a much much taller task. 

    One of these teams is going to be 3-0, and my $$$ says it's Brady and the boys from Boston.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2011 - 5:28 PM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuadYeah:

     

    Rams +14 & Over 37??????????

    where's the "money made" on that?? You probably have to bet triple what you would actually make. You may want to rethink your betting strategies.........



    What's your bet?  We will compare notes...you clearly aren't much of a teaser person if you think that combination costs -300.  It cost -130 and it won't cost me anything when its over.  Gimme your play and we will compare notes afterward I'm not worried on mine, because I know that's how money is made.  BOL though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuadYeah:

     

    Rams +14 & Over 37??????????

    where's the "money made" on that?? You probably have to bet triple what you would actually make. You may want to rethink your betting strategies.........



    What's your bet?  We will compare notes...you clearly aren't much of a teaser person if you think that combination costs -300.  It cost -130 and it won't cost me anything when its over.  Gimme your play and we will compare notes afterward I'm not worried on mine, because I know that's how money is made.  BOL though!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2011 - 5:37 PM ET #35

    Leaning toward the under 44.
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    Leaning toward the under 44.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2011 - 5:42 PM ET #36

    Under is my play here...

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    Under is my play here...

     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2011 - 5:55 PM ET #37

    Rams homer here. Gotta take my team on Monday Night.

    Rams +7

    Small play, because they probably break my heart as usual.

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    Rams homer here. Gotta take my team on Monday Night.

    Rams +7

    Small play, because they probably break my heart as usual.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2011 - 6:05 PM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by FreeMoneyInc:



    What's your bet?  We will compare notes...you clearly aren't much of a teaser person if you think that combination costs -300.  It cost -130 and it won't cost me anything when its over.  Gimme your play and we will compare notes afterward I'm not worried on mine, because I know that's how money is made.  BOL though!

    Listen wiseguy, you want to compare notes? O.K., I may have exaggerated a little, but seriously, on www.betus.com - even if you parlayed these 2 together you would still have to bet $100.00 just to win $49.60 - that's more than half of your wager lost.

    Now, first of all, you let me know where you can get this same wager for just -130 - - - second of all, since when is a minus -130 bet "not costing you anything"?????????????? Simple math tells you that you still have to bet $130 to win $100 (or, $13 to win $10) - - sounds like a loss to me............

    Like I said, go read a book on how to bet and what wagers mean, then come back in here - and maybe you can school me on how betting is done. Until then keep your mouth shut.

    BTW - just because of your comments, here's my wager for you - Rams +7.5 and your precious over 37 - - $100 to win a total of $223.16 - - now THAT'S a positive bet, and maybe that's what you should be doing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeMoneyInc:



    What's your bet?  We will compare notes...you clearly aren't much of a teaser person if you think that combination costs -300.  It cost -130 and it won't cost me anything when its over.  Gimme your play and we will compare notes afterward I'm not worried on mine, because I know that's how money is made.  BOL though!

    Listen wiseguy, you want to compare notes? O.K., I may have exaggerated a little, but seriously, on www.betus.com - even if you parlayed these 2 together you would still have to bet $100.00 just to win $49.60 - that's more than half of your wager lost.

    Now, first of all, you let me know where you can get this same wager for just -130 - - - second of all, since when is a minus -130 bet "not costing you anything"?????????????? Simple math tells you that you still have to bet $130 to win $100 (or, $13 to win $10) - - sounds like a loss to me............

    Like I said, go read a book on how to bet and what wagers mean, then come back in here - and maybe you can school me on how betting is done. Until then keep your mouth shut.

    BTW - just because of your comments, here's my wager for you - Rams +7.5 and your precious over 37 - - $100 to win a total of $223.16 - - now THAT'S a positive bet, and maybe that's what you should be doing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2011 - 6:06 PM ET #39

    Giants -7 at home
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    Giants -7 at home
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2011 - 6:23 PM ET #40

    My Money is goin to the over, Giants will put up some numbers from running the ball down the Rams throats and Braford on the other side should wear out the depleted secondary of the Gmen...good luck all!
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    My Money is goin to the over, Giants will put up some numbers from running the ball down the Rams throats and Braford on the other side should wear out the depleted secondary of the Gmen...good luck all!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2011 - 6:30 PM ET #41

    Sep 19 2:28pmFootball - Pending5000 to win 4550   
      1.  Football - St Louis Rams/New York Giants - total Over 44 (-110) 
            for the entire game held on Sep 19 at 7:35pm [pending]
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    Sep 19 2:28pmFootball - Pending5000 to win 4550   
      1.  Football - St Louis Rams/New York Giants - total Over 44 (-110) 
            for the entire game held on Sep 19 at 7:35pm [pending]
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2011 - 6:43 PM ET #42

    SANDMAN ON THE OVER ????? 

    TAKE THE UNDER !!
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    SANDMAN ON THE OVER ????? 

    TAKE THE UNDER !!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2011 - 6:50 PM ET #43

    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuadYeah:

    Listen wiseguy, you want to compare notes? O.K., I may have exaggerated a little, but seriously, on www.betus.com - even if you parlayed these 2 together you would still have to bet $100.00 just to win $49.60 - that's more than half of your wager lost.





    It appears you don't know the difference between a PARLAY and a TEASER. 


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuadYeah:

    Listen wiseguy, you want to compare notes? O.K., I may have exaggerated a little, but seriously, on www.betus.com - even if you parlayed these 2 together you would still have to bet $100.00 just to win $49.60 - that's more than half of your wager lost.





    It appears you don't know the difference between a PARLAY and a TEASER. 


     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2011 - 6:59 PM ET #44

    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuadYeah:

    Like I said, go read a book on how to bet and what wagers mean, then come back in here - and maybe you can school me on how betting is done. Until then keep your mouth shut.

    BTW - just because of your comments, here's my wager for you - Rams +7.5 and your precious over 37 - - $100 to win a total of $223.16 - - now THAT'S a positive bet, and maybe that's what you should be doing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I'm guessing you wrote the book..... ...wow..., and again I'm guessing but maybe  Free does'nt think 7.5 pts  is enough..dah

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuadYeah:

    Like I said, go read a book on how to bet and what wagers mean, then come back in here - and maybe you can school me on how betting is done. Until then keep your mouth shut.

    BTW - just because of your comments, here's my wager for you - Rams +7.5 and your precious over 37 - - $100 to win a total of $223.16 - - now THAT'S a positive bet, and maybe that's what you should be doing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I'm guessing you wrote the book..... ...wow..., and again I'm guessing but maybe  Free does'nt think 7.5 pts  is enough..dah

     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2011 - 7:01 PM ET #45

    Hello All, Tonight NYG for the Money!! Large -7
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    Hello All, Tonight NYG for the Money!! Large -7
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2011 - 7:24 PM ET #46

    I really like the Rams in this spot. A lot of people underestimate this Rams defense. They get after the quarterback and I'm not a Eli Manning fan when it comes to him being hurried. He makes a lot of mistakes. I think the Giants find themselves playing catch up early and not being able to run the ball as much as they originally plan. I look for Bradford to have a big game and the Rams defense to do much better stopping the run without having to worry about Vick in the backfield. The Rams held their own against the Eagles last week.

    Final Play... St. Louis +7 (2 Units) & a small parlay St. Louis & the Under (At least 1 or 2 MNF games have to go under and I think this sets up to be the first.)

    Good Luck to All...  

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    I really like the Rams in this spot. A lot of people underestimate this Rams defense. They get after the quarterback and I'm not a Eli Manning fan when it comes to him being hurried. He makes a lot of mistakes. I think the Giants find themselves playing catch up early and not being able to run the ball as much as they originally plan. I look for Bradford to have a big game and the Rams defense to do much better stopping the run without having to worry about Vick in the backfield. The Rams held their own against the Eagles last week.

    Final Play... St. Louis +7 (2 Units) & a small parlay St. Louis & the Under (At least 1 or 2 MNF games have to go under and I think this sets up to be the first.)

    Good Luck to All...  

     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2011 - 7:28 PM ET #47

    This line was bet up quickly mostly I'd say by sharp money to 6.5 so IMO the value is now gone on a flat play so flat I will buy the half pt for a small play.. BUT I will go large prob 2 dimes on ny giants and the UNDER 51 on the teaser..  Fact these totals are already 100% inflated 2-4 pts in fact if you teased the under yesterday you would have won every game but 2 the terrible bills and raiders game and the high powered eagles falcoms sunday nighter.. so those who are teasin the OVER may want to rethink there play not saying it will not win but 13-15 teased unders I think the odds are in my favor GLTA!!!
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    This line was bet up quickly mostly I'd say by sharp money to 6.5 so IMO the value is now gone on a flat play so flat I will buy the half pt for a small play.. BUT I will go large prob 2 dimes on ny giants and the UNDER 51 on the teaser..  Fact these totals are already 100% inflated 2-4 pts in fact if you teased the under yesterday you would have won every game but 2 the terrible bills and raiders game and the high powered eagles falcoms sunday nighter.. so those who are teasin the OVER may want to rethink there play not saying it will not win but 13-15 teased unders I think the odds are in my favor GLTA!!!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2011 - 7:32 PM ET #48

    On the TEASER subject. I've been gambling for just 8 years now. One thing that I have learned is that the line is normally close to the outcome of the game. Next Sunday take 9 Points and add or subtract from any total or side and see you come out at the end of the day. Yesterday I played two 9 point teasers, both hit, but not without the 9.

    PACKERS -10.0 to -1.0. Would have lost without the extra points

    REDSKINS -5.0 to +4.0. Would have lost without the extra points

    DALLAS -3.0 to +6.0. Would have pushed.

    CHARGERS +7.0 to +16.0. You get the point.

    Those were my four plays PACK/SKINS then COWBOYS/CHARGERS. I have to bet a dime to win a nickel.....but in the long run I make money this way and that's why I'm in this. Just advice. Take it or leave it. I already like the OVER teased down tonight. The question is the GIANTS +2.0 or the RAMS +16.0?????? Not sure yet. Leaning Gmen. No play yet.

    GLTA

     

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    On the TEASER subject. I've been gambling for just 8 years now. One thing that I have learned is that the line is normally close to the outcome of the game. Next Sunday take 9 Points and add or subtract from any total or side and see you come out at the end of the day. Yesterday I played two 9 point teasers, both hit, but not without the 9.

    PACKERS -10.0 to -1.0. Would have lost without the extra points

    REDSKINS -5.0 to +4.0. Would have lost without the extra points

    DALLAS -3.0 to +6.0. Would have pushed.

    CHARGERS +7.0 to +16.0. You get the point.

    Those were my four plays PACK/SKINS then COWBOYS/CHARGERS. I have to bet a dime to win a nickel.....but in the long run I make money this way and that's why I'm in this. Just advice. Take it or leave it. I already like the OVER teased down tonight. The question is the GIANTS +2.0 or the RAMS +16.0?????? Not sure yet. Leaning Gmen. No play yet.

    GLTA

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2011 - 7:37 PM ET #49

    Also... I really like taking a team (getting points) when the head coach was a DC within five years.
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    Also... I really like taking a team (getting points) when the head coach was a DC within five years.
     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 19, 2011 - 7:39 PM ET #50

    this quad guy is an idiot..if you could get the rams plua 7.5 and over 37 and only risk 100 to win over 200 everyone in there mother would be on that..id like to know what book offers that as a parlay because i want in.

     

    defenses are banged up. rams have the worst rushing defense in the league. jacobs and bradshaw didnt do much last week so expect them to come out against a not so good rams defense and pound the ball up the middle. rams are also without one of their cornerbacks. if hakeem nicks is playin you better believe the giants will target him many times during the game. i just dont see the rams coming out on top or covering the spread tonight.

    take the giants and or the over..teaser with the giants as a pick and over 37 would be a solid play.

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    this quad guy is an idiot..if you could get the rams plua 7.5 and over 37 and only risk 100 to win over 200 everyone in there mother would be on that..id like to know what book offers that as a parlay because i want in.

     

    defenses are banged up. rams have the worst rushing defense in the league. jacobs and bradshaw didnt do much last week so expect them to come out against a not so good rams defense and pound the ball up the middle. rams are also without one of their cornerbacks. if hakeem nicks is playin you better believe the giants will target him many times during the game. i just dont see the rams coming out on top or covering the spread tonight.

    take the giants and or the over..teaser with the giants as a pick and over 37 would be a solid play.

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