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    Philadelphia at Washington (11/15/2010)

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    rekamyenoM
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2010 - 4:56 PM ET #51

    The Washington Redskins com into this one at 4-4 and despite all of the injuries, they have a chance to have a winning record at past the midway point. Donovan McNabb started again last game but it's clear he is quickly falling out of favor with the Redskins. With Clinton Portis injured, and after releasing most of what looked to be a bevery deep backfield before the season started, the Skins are now starting Ryan Torain, who while he is a physical runner, doesn't have the home run threat of a Portis. Washington is averaging 19 points a game and 330 yards but just over 93 yards on the ground each game. The defense has been reasonably tough but the pressure has been on them and I expect Brian Orakpo and LaRon Landry to be part of it all when they kick off tonight despite being listed as questionable. For the season Washington is allowing 17.2 points per game despite allowing 412 yards per game with 302 of it coming through the air.

    The Philadelphia Eagles are looking like of of the better teams in football but when I left the sports book last night, they were 18-1 to win the Super Bowl, the lower middle part of the pack. Michael Vick has added a new dynamic to this team and it's probably his ability to stay healthy that has some something to do with the big price. Vick has found his targets down field often as DeSean Jackson and Jeremy Maclin have the speed to get open deep and take advantage of Vick's big arm. LeSean McCoy doesn't have breakaway speed at running back but he has enough speed to tear off big runs and keep the ground game moving. The Eagles defense has been bringing the heat, getting to the QB and with a secondary that has a nose for the football. Philadelphia is allowing 21.3 points per game though they allow less than 300 yards per game.

    Like last night (where the Pats put up nearly 40 points & embarassed the Steelers in their own house), I think we'll see some points in this one and with the total set at 42 and a half....

     OVER 

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    The Washington Redskins com into this one at 4-4 and despite all of the injuries, they have a chance to have a winning record at past the midway point. Donovan McNabb started again last game but it's clear he is quickly falling out of favor with the Redskins. With Clinton Portis injured, and after releasing most of what looked to be a bevery deep backfield before the season started, the Skins are now starting Ryan Torain, who while he is a physical runner, doesn't have the home run threat of a Portis. Washington is averaging 19 points a game and 330 yards but just over 93 yards on the ground each game. The defense has been reasonably tough but the pressure has been on them and I expect Brian Orakpo and LaRon Landry to be part of it all when they kick off tonight despite being listed as questionable. For the season Washington is allowing 17.2 points per game despite allowing 412 yards per game with 302 of it coming through the air.

    The Philadelphia Eagles are looking like of of the better teams in football but when I left the sports book last night, they were 18-1 to win the Super Bowl, the lower middle part of the pack. Michael Vick has added a new dynamic to this team and it's probably his ability to stay healthy that has some something to do with the big price. Vick has found his targets down field often as DeSean Jackson and Jeremy Maclin have the speed to get open deep and take advantage of Vick's big arm. LeSean McCoy doesn't have breakaway speed at running back but he has enough speed to tear off big runs and keep the ground game moving. The Eagles defense has been bringing the heat, getting to the QB and with a secondary that has a nose for the football. Philadelphia is allowing 21.3 points per game though they allow less than 300 yards per game.

    Like last night (where the Pats put up nearly 40 points & embarassed the Steelers in their own house), I think we'll see some points in this one and with the total set at 42 and a half....

     OVER 

     
    Sandman23
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2010 - 5:16 PM ET #52

    Just like my $9200.00 winner I posted yesterday with the Bills/Lions game...this game is a LOCK

     UNDER 43

    Wager Description Wager Amounts Result    
    Nov 15 2:19pmFootball - Pending10000 to win 9090   
      1.  Football - Philadelphia Eagles/Washington Redskins - total Under 43 (-110) 
            for the entire game held on Nov 15 at 8:35pm [pending]
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    Just like my $9200.00 winner I posted yesterday with the Bills/Lions game...this game is a LOCK

     UNDER 43

    Wager Description Wager Amounts Result    
    Nov 15 2:19pmFootball - Pending10000 to win 9090   
      1.  Football - Philadelphia Eagles/Washington Redskins - total Under 43 (-110) 
            for the entire game held on Nov 15 at 8:35pm [pending]
     
    zOrO-GZA
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2010 - 5:23 PM ET #53

    Why everybody loving Philadelphia/OVER here?

    Remmember washington lose by 3 points vs Indianapolis on primetime? Remember Washington win @ Philly?, im just asking for an analisis on the OVER and Philly.

    I got Philadelphia favorite by 3.418 on my computer predictor, and why the OVER? this is going to be a boring "no score" game imo...

    just my .02c
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    Why everybody loving Philadelphia/OVER here?

    Remmember washington lose by 3 points vs Indianapolis on primetime? Remember Washington win @ Philly?, im just asking for an analisis on the OVER and Philly.

    I got Philadelphia favorite by 3.418 on my computer predictor, and why the OVER? this is going to be a boring "no score" game imo...

    just my .02c
     
    coachpicks
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2010 - 5:24 PM ET #54

    This is an easy line @ +3.5.

    Washington wins this game straight out and at worst loses by less than 3. 

    They have the superior defense. McNabb will play much better at home.

    They are coming off of a bye week, and Shannahan is ready for the Eagles.

    Vick will come back down to earth vs an underrated Redskins D.

    WASHINGTON +3.5
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    This is an easy line @ +3.5.

    Washington wins this game straight out and at worst loses by less than 3. 

    They have the superior defense. McNabb will play much better at home.

    They are coming off of a bye week, and Shannahan is ready for the Eagles.

    Vick will come back down to earth vs an underrated Redskins D.

    WASHINGTON +3.5
     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2010 - 5:40 PM ET #55

    They just gave D-MAC a 5yr/$78M deal.
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    They just gave D-MAC a 5yr/$78M deal.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2010 - 5:40 PM ET #56

    Quote Originally Posted by holtnt:

    I am really amazed how Michael Vick’s passing skills have developed and I just knew he would not be the same athletic after sitting in jail for that extended period (jail tends to physically and mentally break you).  However, he is a better passer now than at any other point in his football career and I can NOT see where he has lost any quickness.

     

    There is some trouble brewing in that Redskin locker room with Mr. McNabb and the Shanahan boys.  When the LOVE is gone it’s gone!

     

    Give me the law firm Reid & Vick minus up to 4 points.  Thanks! 






    "Fletcher Smith said Monday that the 33-year-old McNabb has agreed to a five-year, $78 million contract extension with the Redskins, with $40 million of the deal guaranteed.

    ESPN first reported on the deal."


    Sounds like they plan on him being the man for a while.

    Just an FYI.

    GL


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    Quote Originally Posted by holtnt:

    I am really amazed how Michael Vick’s passing skills have developed and I just knew he would not be the same athletic after sitting in jail for that extended period (jail tends to physically and mentally break you).  However, he is a better passer now than at any other point in his football career and I can NOT see where he has lost any quickness.

     

    There is some trouble brewing in that Redskin locker room with Mr. McNabb and the Shanahan boys.  When the LOVE is gone it’s gone!

     

    Give me the law firm Reid & Vick minus up to 4 points.  Thanks! 






    "Fletcher Smith said Monday that the 33-year-old McNabb has agreed to a five-year, $78 million contract extension with the Redskins, with $40 million of the deal guaranteed.

    ESPN first reported on the deal."


    Sounds like they plan on him being the man for a while.

    Just an FYI.

    GL


     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2010 - 6:00 PM ET #57

    just look at the stats....mcnabb comming off a bench  destoroyed...redskins comming off a by   ,,,,covered....i know its the eagles,but skins are going after vick like the first game...be aware of the dogs,, they are going to bite..
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    just look at the stats....mcnabb comming off a bench  destoroyed...redskins comming off a by   ,,,,covered....i know its the eagles,but skins are going after vick like the first game...be aware of the dogs,, they are going to bite..
     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2010 - 6:02 PM ET #58

    Quote Originally Posted by Sandman23:

    Just like my $9200.00 winner I posted yesterday with the Bills/Lions game...this game is a LOCK

     UNDER 43

    Wager Description Wager Amounts Result    
    Nov 15 2:19pmFootball - Pending10000 to win 9090   
      1.  Football - Philadelphia Eagles/Washington Redskins - total Under 43 (-110) 
            for the entire game held on Nov 15 at 8:35pm [pending]



    Um. Sandman, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you didn't win that Bills/Lions bet - let me know if my math is correct, but 14 minus 12 equals 2, not 3 - Just FYI, thank you. Here's your post


    QUOTE Originally Posted by Sandman23:

    Gents...save all your money and wager only on this game.  This is the week.

    Buffalo -2.5 LARGE 


    Nov 14 7:25amFootball - Pending10000 to win 9520   
      1.  Football - Buffalo Bills - spread -2½ (-105) 
            for the entire game held on Nov 14 at 1:00pm [pending]


    and here's where you posted it, post #30

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=65&sub=100874793&page=2


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandman23:

    Just like my $9200.00 winner I posted yesterday with the Bills/Lions game...this game is a LOCK

     UNDER 43

    Wager Description Wager Amounts Result    
    Nov 15 2:19pmFootball - Pending10000 to win 9090   
      1.  Football - Philadelphia Eagles/Washington Redskins - total Under 43 (-110) 
            for the entire game held on Nov 15 at 8:35pm [pending]



    Um. Sandman, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you didn't win that Bills/Lions bet - let me know if my math is correct, but 14 minus 12 equals 2, not 3 - Just FYI, thank you. Here's your post


    QUOTE Originally Posted by Sandman23:

    Gents...save all your money and wager only on this game.  This is the week.

    Buffalo -2.5 LARGE 


    Nov 14 7:25amFootball - Pending10000 to win 9520   
      1.  Football - Buffalo Bills - spread -2½ (-105) 
            for the entire game held on Nov 14 at 1:00pm [pending]


    and here's where you posted it, post #30

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=65&sub=100874793&page=2


     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2010 - 6:05 PM ET #59

    COVERS:

    McNabb rates near the bottom of the NFL with a QB rating of 76, quite the opposite of Eagles QB Mike Vick, who ranks No. 1 with a QB rating of 105. Vick has been sensational this season and has yet to throw an INT. While he's only started four games, he's the front runner for this year's offensive MVP.

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    COVERS:

    McNabb rates near the bottom of the NFL with a QB rating of 76, quite the opposite of Eagles QB Mike Vick, who ranks No. 1 with a QB rating of 105. Vick has been sensational this season and has yet to throw an INT. While he's only started four games, he's the front runner for this year's offensive MVP.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2010 - 6:08 PM ET #60

    skins +3.5

    final score : 24-21... either way

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    skins +3.5

    final score : 24-21... either way

     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2010 - 6:08 PM ET #61

    Washington 1st Half:
    OVER 7 (-205)
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    Washington 1st Half:
    OVER 7 (-205)
     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2010 - 6:09 PM ET #62

    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuadYeah:




    Um. Sandman, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you didn't win that Bills/Lions bet - let me know if my math is correct, but 14 minus 12 equals 2, not 3 - Just FYI, thank you. Here's your post


    QUOTE Originally Posted by Sandman23:

    Gents...save all your money and wager only on this game.  This is the week.

    Buffalo -2.5 LARGE 


    Nov 14 7:25amFootball - Pending10000 to win 9520   
      1.  Football - Buffalo Bills - spread -2½ (-105) 
            for the entire game held on Nov 14 at 1:00pm [pending]


    and here's where you posted it, post #30

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=65&sub=100874793&page=2



    OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!   
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuadYeah:




    Um. Sandman, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you didn't win that Bills/Lions bet - let me know if my math is correct, but 14 minus 12 equals 2, not 3 - Just FYI, thank you. Here's your post


    QUOTE Originally Posted by Sandman23:

    Gents...save all your money and wager only on this game.  This is the week.

    Buffalo -2.5 LARGE 


    Nov 14 7:25amFootball - Pending10000 to win 9520   
      1.  Football - Buffalo Bills - spread -2½ (-105) 
            for the entire game held on Nov 14 at 1:00pm [pending]


    and here's where you posted it, post #30

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=65&sub=100874793&page=2



    OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!   
     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2010 - 6:12 PM ET #63

    Vegas Insider:

    Philadelphia has compiled a 9-3 ATS mark in divisional road contests since 2006, including a pair of wins as away 'chalk' last season at New York (45-38) and Washington (27-17). The victory at FedEx Field last October came on a Monday night, as DeSean Jackson scored on a pair of big plays by scoring on a 67-yard touchdown run and hauling in a 57-yard pass from McNabb. Philadelphia covered as hefty nine-point favorites despite a late Washington touchdown to make the score more respectable.

    Reply

    Vegas Insider:

    Philadelphia has compiled a 9-3 ATS mark in divisional road contests since 2006, including a pair of wins as away 'chalk' last season at New York (45-38) and Washington (27-17). The victory at FedEx Field last October came on a Monday night, as DeSean Jackson scored on a pair of big plays by scoring on a 67-yard touchdown run and hauling in a 57-yard pass from McNabb. Philadelphia covered as hefty nine-point favorites despite a late Washington touchdown to make the score more respectable.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2010 - 6:15 PM ET #64

    philly and philly over, redskins just gave McNabb another contract for nothing, Vick couldnt finish last game so he gonna act a donkey on da field tonight
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    philly and philly over, redskins just gave McNabb another contract for nothing, Vick couldnt finish last game so he gonna act a donkey on da field tonight
     
    dapperdon5g
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2010 - 6:23 PM ET #65

    thank god i dont let these forums influence my picks REDSKINS WITH THE POINTS BABY!!

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    thank god i dont let these forums influence my picks REDSKINS WITH THE POINTS BABY!!

     
    RatedRookies
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2010 - 6:23 PM ET #66

    After tonights game, you will see why the Philadelphia Eagles are a Super Bowl caliber team!!  The old vs. the young ...Eagles "young" players are gonna beat the "old" Redskins players with their speed.  

    Vick playing with heart now!!

    McNabb just received a 5yr contract and won't be as motivated now cuz his backs not against the wall anymore.

    However, McNabb will have his opportunity to display his "2minute offense" abilities tonight but itll be too late cuz they'll be down 10-14 pts.

    Like always...this is just my opinion and the NFL is wacky these days so anything can happen...but my $$$ is on the younger, quicker, more talented, and more inspired:

       EAGLES  -3
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    After tonights game, you will see why the Philadelphia Eagles are a Super Bowl caliber team!!  The old vs. the young ...Eagles "young" players are gonna beat the "old" Redskins players with their speed.  

    Vick playing with heart now!!

    McNabb just received a 5yr contract and won't be as motivated now cuz his backs not against the wall anymore.

    However, McNabb will have his opportunity to display his "2minute offense" abilities tonight but itll be too late cuz they'll be down 10-14 pts.

    Like always...this is just my opinion and the NFL is wacky these days so anything can happen...but my $$$ is on the younger, quicker, more talented, and more inspired:

       EAGLES  -3
     
    mixnuts
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2010 - 6:26 PM ET #67

    People that know me, know I would only sneak in a "Sharp Move" this is not one of them. Nothing "Sharp" about this game. Would love to rt 4 Vick. McNabb always seems worried and seared. But, can't seem to play with 70% of the public even though the line is moving in the correct direction, so for fun (Small) take WASHINGTON Plus 3.5 (waiting to see if goes to 4 then buy 3 pts. feel better with a TD) In NBA there is the system [A] bet on Nets (3pt buy) I know right funny when folks say those things 5% chance 0% that's like using the "L" Word lol your correct if that was the case "Put Your Trailer On It" !  
    BOL ALL...
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    People that know me, know I would only sneak in a "Sharp Move" this is not one of them. Nothing "Sharp" about this game. Would love to rt 4 Vick. McNabb always seems worried and seared. But, can't seem to play with 70% of the public even though the line is moving in the correct direction, so for fun (Small) take WASHINGTON Plus 3.5 (waiting to see if goes to 4 then buy 3 pts. feel better with a TD) In NBA there is the system [A] bet on Nets (3pt buy) I know right funny when folks say those things 5% chance 0% that's like using the "L" Word lol your correct if that was the case "Put Your Trailer On It" !  
    BOL ALL...
     
    rekamyenoM
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2010 - 6:32 PM ET #68

    Here's your rekamyenoM

     PHILLY OVER 3.5 1ST QUARTER

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    Here's your rekamyenoM

     PHILLY OVER 3.5 1ST QUARTER

     
    john227
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2010 - 6:37 PM ET #69

    philly and over for me...gonnna be a good game but i think philly will be "VICKtorius"ohh n for 100 each
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    philly and over for me...gonnna be a good game but i think philly will be "VICKtorius"ohh n for 100 each
     
    BOCCO
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2010 - 6:45 PM ET #70

    I originally liked the over !!!! but now leaning towards the under after reading what you people are saying !!!!!!!
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    I originally liked the over !!!! but now leaning towards the under after reading what you people are saying !!!!!!!
     
    Raines
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2010 - 6:49 PM ET #71

    Live in Washington. Washington will lose this game tonight. With a healthy Vick, look out Skins. - whatever THE E A G L E S.

    GLTA

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    Live in Washington. Washington will lose this game tonight. With a healthy Vick, look out Skins. - whatever THE E A G L E S.

    GLTA

     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2010 - 7:06 PM ET #72

    Actually I did.....

    If you notice the payout was $ 9520 and I said I won $9200....that's is what buying a full point or down to 1.5 points gets you.

     

      
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    Actually I did.....

    If you notice the payout was $ 9520 and I said I won $9200....that's is what buying a full point or down to 1.5 points gets you.

     

      
     
    bustn2night
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2010 - 7:23 PM ET #73

    Watching Steve Young talk about the dog murderer like he's the second coming is making me sick. If their is any karma in this life he will get snapped in half like a pretzel stick.

    Vick has legs but was never accurate. He may beat a beaten up Skins team, but will revert to his base tendencies.

    Love to wager, but can't root for a piece of shit like Vick.

    No play for me.

     

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    Watching Steve Young talk about the dog murderer like he's the second coming is making me sick. If their is any karma in this life he will get snapped in half like a pretzel stick.

    Vick has legs but was never accurate. He may beat a beaten up Skins team, but will revert to his base tendencies.

    Love to wager, but can't root for a piece of shit like Vick.

    No play for me.

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2010 - 7:23 PM ET #74

    [Quote: Originally Posted by Sandman23] Actually I did.....

    If you notice the payout was $ 9520 and I said I won $9200....that's is what buying a full point or down to 1.5 points gets you.

     

      

    [/Quote

    Liar.

    First you posted the bet as is - and second - IF you bought a point and a half, it would be a little more juice.  Sorry fella....

     

     

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    [Quote: Originally Posted by Sandman23] Actually I did.....

    If you notice the payout was $ 9520 and I said I won $9200....that's is what buying a full point or down to 1.5 points gets you.

     

      

    [/Quote

    Liar.

    First you posted the bet as is - and second - IF you bought a point and a half, it would be a little more juice.  Sorry fella....

     

     

     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 15, 2010 - 7:25 PM ET #75

    Quote Originally Posted by vue21849:

        The Skins have  5 % chance of winning the game and  0 % chance of covering. Time to get real!

    PHILADELPHIA     -   3

    Do you understand gambling?  Obviously not...

    You say the 'Skins have a 5% chance of winning this game outright.  Okay, so lets say they win.  Therefore IF they win - the Skins OBVIOUSLY cover (you knw, since they are GETTING points).

    Plonk.  Your parting gift is in the mail.  buh bye now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vue21849:

        The Skins have  5 % chance of winning the game and  0 % chance of covering. Time to get real!

    PHILADELPHIA     -   3

    Do you understand gambling?  Obviously not...

    You say the 'Skins have a 5% chance of winning this game outright.  Okay, so lets say they win.  Therefore IF they win - the Skins OBVIOUSLY cover (you knw, since they are GETTING points).

    Plonk.  Your parting gift is in the mail.  buh bye now.

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