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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2008 - 4:52 PM ET #126

    Always bet the team off a loss getting 7 or more points going home . Cleveland  -9
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2008 - 4:55 PM ET #127

    Actually considering pairing the the ML bet with a SU halftime lead...I just don't see the Browns coming out early on the GMen...I'd rather avoid laying points, but the giants SU at the half and final pays profits me 57 bucks on my benjamin, as opposed to 26 and change if I only go with the final...
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    Actually considering pairing the the ML bet with a SU halftime lead...I just don't see the Browns coming out early on the GMen...I'd rather avoid laying points, but the giants SU at the half and final pays profits me 57 bucks on my benjamin, as opposed to 26 and change if I only go with the final...
     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2008 - 4:56 PM ET #128

    Quote Originally Posted by Watch:

    Okay Night.
     
    What's the combined record of the teams that the Giants have beaten is 6-16 straight up and the Browns 10-12 straight up. The spread is too high and it is not calibrated correctly for a moneyline of -345/+245. A 9 point spread should be -400/+300 at the least. The money is off 55 cents on the dollar both ways. A moneyline like this one should be accompanied with a spread of 7. With a moneyline of +245 and a spread of 9, I have to also take the Browns on the moneyline too. Where else but in wagering can you get $1000.00 for a stake of $350.88. I am going to try it out.
     
     
    Cleveland +285 moneyline
    Cleveland +9
     
    Watch you said all this same shit in last weeks Wisconsin /Penn st. thread about the money line not matching the spread and I think you ended by saying you were going to make 900 off of 500 taking Wisconsin...  That game ended 38-7 with you on the wrong side and your 500 went this one will be a little closer than that but not much, so switch sides now and you will have this instead of         HUCK HAS LEFT THE BUILDING
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    Quote Originally Posted by Watch:

    Okay Night.
     
    What's the combined record of the teams that the Giants have beaten is 6-16 straight up and the Browns 10-12 straight up. The spread is too high and it is not calibrated correctly for a moneyline of -345/+245. A 9 point spread should be -400/+300 at the least. The money is off 55 cents on the dollar both ways. A moneyline like this one should be accompanied with a spread of 7. With a moneyline of +245 and a spread of 9, I have to also take the Browns on the moneyline too. Where else but in wagering can you get $1000.00 for a stake of $350.88. I am going to try it out.
     
     
    Cleveland +285 moneyline
    Cleveland +9
     
    Watch you said all this same shit in last weeks Wisconsin /Penn st. thread about the money line not matching the spread and I think you ended by saying you were going to make 900 off of 500 taking Wisconsin...  That game ended 38-7 with you on the wrong side and your 500 went this one will be a little closer than that but not much, so switch sides now and you will have this instead of         HUCK HAS LEFT THE BUILDING
     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2008 - 5:11 PM ET #129

    Giants -9
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2008 - 5:14 PM ET #130

    EXPECT the UNEXPECTED !!!
    BROWNIES +9
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    EXPECT the UNEXPECTED !!!
    BROWNIES +9
     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2008 - 5:22 PM ET #131

    Quote Originally Posted by nightridah:

           REASONS WHY NY IS THE PLAY TONIGHT
     
    *CLE HAS NOT BEAT NY SINCE 1985
    *CLE IS 5-9 OFF BYE WEEK LAST 14 GAMES
    *LAST TIME NY LOST IN CLEVELAND WAS 1973
    *JAMAL LEWIS HAS BEEN SLOWED WITH ANKLE AND HAMSTRING INJURIES WHICH IS NOT GOOD GOING UP AGAINST A NY RUN DEFENSE THAT RANKS #6 IN NFL
    *PLAXICO BURESS IS 7 INCHES TALLER THAN BOTH OF CLE CB'S -MCDONALD AND WRIGHT WHO WILL TAKE TURNS COVERING HIM
    *LAST TIME COUGHLIN SUSPENDED BURRESS ,HE CAME OUT A WEEK LATER VS RAMS AND CAUGHT 10 PASSES FOR 204YRDS AND 2 TOUCHDOWNS
    *NOW THAT WINSLOW IS OUT ,IT WILL BE MORE DIFFICULT FOR  WR EDWARDS TO GET FREE
    *WHILE CLE IS TALKING "PAYBACK" OFF A PRESEASON GAME IN WHICH THEY GOT EMBARRASSED,NY  SAID IT WAS JUST A PRESEASON GAME WHERE A LOT OF GAME PLANNING WAS NOT EVEN INVOLVED
    *BECUZ OF COREY WILLIAMS SHIT TALKING ANTICS ABOUT NY WHICH IS # 1 IN RUSHING AND RB JACOBS,NY WILL NOT OVERLOOK CLE...INSTEAD THEY WILL POUND AND RUN DOWN CLE THROAT WHICH IS RANKED #22 ON RUN DEFENSE ....
    *NY IS 10-1 ATS IN RD GAMES OVER LAST 2 SEASONS
    *NY AVG 32MIN I TIME OF POSSESION WHICH MEANS THEY WILL CONTROL THE CLOCK WITH THEIR RUNNING GAME
    *Play Against - Any team vs the money line (CLEVELAND) off a win against a division rival, terrible team, winning 25% or less of their games on the season
    86-26 since 1997.  ( 76.8% | 0.0 units )
    1-0 this year.  ( 100.0% | 0.0 units )
     
     
          REASON WHY UNDER IS THE PLAY 2NITE
     
    *NY HAS GONE UNDER THE POSTED TOTAL IN 9-12 RD GAMES
    *CLE HAS GONE UNDER IN THEIR LAST 5 GAMES AT HOME
    *NY GIVES UP AVG OF 12 PTS A GAME
    *CLE AVGS 12 PTS A GAME ON OFFENSE
    *CLE GIVES UP AVG OF 19PTS A GAME
     
    PICK- NY(ML)
    PICK-NY/UNDER ON A TEASER= NY+3/UNDER 50
    PICK UNDER 43.5
    PICK-NY -8.5 WITH HALF POINT BUY 
    PICK-UNDER 21 AT THE HALF
     
       


    Now this is capping ladies and gentlemen.  Good knowledge Ridah.  May I return the favor with the OVER 7.5 tonight in LA.
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           REASONS WHY NY IS THE PLAY TONIGHT
     
    *CLE HAS NOT BEAT NY SINCE 1985
    *CLE IS 5-9 OFF BYE WEEK LAST 14 GAMES
    *LAST TIME NY LOST IN CLEVELAND WAS 1973
    *JAMAL LEWIS HAS BEEN SLOWED WITH ANKLE AND HAMSTRING INJURIES WHICH IS NOT GOOD GOING UP AGAINST A NY RUN DEFENSE THAT RANKS #6 IN NFL
    *PLAXICO BURESS IS 7 INCHES TALLER THAN BOTH OF CLE CB'S -MCDONALD AND WRIGHT WHO WILL TAKE TURNS COVERING HIM
    *LAST TIME COUGHLIN SUSPENDED BURRESS ,HE CAME OUT A WEEK LATER VS RAMS AND CAUGHT 10 PASSES FOR 204YRDS AND 2 TOUCHDOWNS
    *NOW THAT WINSLOW IS OUT ,IT WILL BE MORE DIFFICULT FOR  WR EDWARDS TO GET FREE
    *WHILE CLE IS TALKING "PAYBACK" OFF A PRESEASON GAME IN WHICH THEY GOT EMBARRASSED,NY  SAID IT WAS JUST A PRESEASON GAME WHERE A LOT OF GAME PLANNING WAS NOT EVEN INVOLVED
    *BECUZ OF COREY WILLIAMS SHIT TALKING ANTICS ABOUT NY WHICH IS # 1 IN RUSHING AND RB JACOBS,NY WILL NOT OVERLOOK CLE...INSTEAD THEY WILL POUND AND RUN DOWN CLE THROAT WHICH IS RANKED #22 ON RUN DEFENSE ....
    *NY IS 10-1 ATS IN RD GAMES OVER LAST 2 SEASONS
    *NY AVG 32MIN I TIME OF POSSESION WHICH MEANS THEY WILL CONTROL THE CLOCK WITH THEIR RUNNING GAME
    *Play Against - Any team vs the money line (CLEVELAND) off a win against a division rival, terrible team, winning 25% or less of their games on the season
    86-26 since 1997.  ( 76.8% | 0.0 units )
    1-0 this year.  ( 100.0% | 0.0 units )
     
     
          REASON WHY UNDER IS THE PLAY 2NITE
     
    *NY HAS GONE UNDER THE POSTED TOTAL IN 9-12 RD GAMES
    *CLE HAS GONE UNDER IN THEIR LAST 5 GAMES AT HOME
    *NY GIVES UP AVG OF 12 PTS A GAME
    *CLE AVGS 12 PTS A GAME ON OFFENSE
    *CLE GIVES UP AVG OF 19PTS A GAME
     
    PICK- NY(ML)
    PICK-NY/UNDER ON A TEASER= NY+3/UNDER 50
    PICK UNDER 43.5
    PICK-NY -8.5 WITH HALF POINT BUY 
    PICK-UNDER 21 AT THE HALF
     
       


    Now this is capping ladies and gentlemen.  Good knowledge Ridah.  May I return the favor with the OVER 7.5 tonight in LA.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2008 - 5:24 PM ET #132

    I feel like a total joe-schmoe-public for making this pick but I just can't see any way around it!!!

    Giants -8
    UNDER 43.5



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    Giants -8
    UNDER 43.5



     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2008 - 5:25 PM ET #133

    Here we go, riding against the crowd:

    CLEVELAND +9.0 

    Last night Jamal (Williams) had a good night.
    Tonight it will be the other Jamal (Lewis) who will have a good night.


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    Here we go, riding against the crowd:

    CLEVELAND +9.0 

    Last night Jamal (Williams) had a good night.
    Tonight it will be the other Jamal (Lewis) who will have a good night.


     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2008 - 5:35 PM ET #134

    Quote Originally Posted by drcomer:

    Good call. The O/U is scary cuz you need the Browns to score some points, and they probably wont.

    GIANTS!!

    that's right man~!

    bet your wife and kids on Gmen 2night~

    and let them know u did it

    they prob say "Oh Yeah~"

    let's do it~!

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    Quote Originally Posted by drcomer:

    Good call. The O/U is scary cuz you need the Browns to score some points, and they probably wont.

    GIANTS!!

    that's right man~!

    bet your wife and kids on Gmen 2night~

    and let them know u did it

    they prob say "Oh Yeah~"

    let's do it~!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2008 - 5:36 PM ET #135

    Quote Originally Posted by nohype08:

    Flava Flav is a clown.  Period.  Rapping about social issues, please, go listen to some Zappa if you want to hear art and creativity tied into social issues.  Rap is for kids, and look at how much damage rap has caused, thats for another forum.

    Zappa is great but you are an idiot!

    Sorry to get off the point of the thread.

    Let the public take the NYG I'm on the Browns and the under.

    FADE THE THREAD!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nohype08:

    Flava Flav is a clown.  Period.  Rapping about social issues, please, go listen to some Zappa if you want to hear art and creativity tied into social issues.  Rap is for kids, and look at how much damage rap has caused, thats for another forum.

    Zappa is great but you are an idiot!

    Sorry to get off the point of the thread.

    Let the public take the NYG I'm on the Browns and the under.

    FADE THE THREAD!!!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2008 - 5:38 PM ET #136

     

    Drcomer-

    If the Giants don't win by 20 points then you have to get rid of that pic of yours...ok

    Lovin the the Browns +9 and over 43

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    Drcomer-

    If the Giants don't win by 20 points then you have to get rid of that pic of yours...ok

    Lovin the the Browns +9 and over 43

     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2008 - 5:42 PM ET #137

    Quote Originally Posted by Imprezive97:

    I fucking love when this happens.  Check it out

    Currently @ Pinnacle we've got

    Giants -9 +108
    Browns +9 -116

    Look at that sweet price for the giants.  Do you fishes see that?  Do you see that bait?  Most of you fishes already bit on it.  I'm not though.  Browns +9 feeling real good about it.

    Lighten up on the condesending talk.......or just take your brilliant observations to smacktalk.com!  

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imprezive97:

    I fucking love when this happens.  Check it out

    Currently @ Pinnacle we've got

    Giants -9 +108
    Browns +9 -116

    Look at that sweet price for the giants.  Do you fishes see that?  Do you see that bait?  Most of you fishes already bit on it.  I'm not though.  Browns +9 feeling real good about it.

    Lighten up on the condesending talk.......or just take your brilliant observations to smacktalk.com!  

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2008 - 5:43 PM ET #138

    Giants at the half -5
     
    Aloha and good luck to all
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    Aloha and good luck to all
     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2008 - 5:47 PM ET #139

    Anyone that speaks of themselves in the third person needs to shut their piehole... that means you sampson.


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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2008 - 5:47 PM ET #140

    This thread is getting screwed up
     
    Enjoy this thread I'll be back when the 1st half is over with.
     
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    Enjoy this thread I'll be back when the 1st half is over with.
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2008 - 5:49 PM ET #141

     i went 6-6 yesterday and i need a good bet tonight to regain my loses

    -anyone got a good feeling b/c im lost?


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     i went 6-6 yesterday and i need a good bet tonight to regain my loses

    -anyone got a good feeling b/c im lost?


     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2008 - 5:49 PM ET #142

    Is Shaun Rogers playing?  How about Stallworth and Winslow?  Anybody heard anything on those key players for the home dog?
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    Is Shaun Rogers playing?  How about Stallworth and Winslow?  Anybody heard anything on those key players for the home dog?
     
    JustFlipACoin
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2008 - 5:53 PM ET #143

    I like the under a lot tonight!!

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    I like the under a lot tonight!!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2008 - 5:54 PM ET #144

    Quote Originally Posted by Irisheyez:

    Lighten up on the condesending talk.......or just take your brilliant observations to smacktalk.com!  

     



    I can't lighten something I already posted.  I love covers.com.  I silently watch and fade and on occasion I post winning picks.  Going to fade this board again and win the cash.  Aint nothing light about my bank roll, ya heard?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irisheyez:

    Lighten up on the condesending talk.......or just take your brilliant observations to smacktalk.com!  

     



    I can't lighten something I already posted.  I love covers.com.  I silently watch and fade and on occasion I post winning picks.  Going to fade this board again and win the cash.  Aint nothing light about my bank roll, ya heard?
     
    ThtsGoodKnwldge
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2008 - 5:55 PM ET #145

    Quote Originally Posted by Sampson:

     

    HA HA HA Whered you Copy and Past this from!

     

    SAMPSON



    Whered you Come from!

    Have you been banned and are back under an alias?  Cause you talk a huge game for 7 posts.  There are a few legit cappers on covers and you just clowned on one of them.
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    HA HA HA Whered you Copy and Past this from!

     

    SAMPSON



    Whered you Come from!

    Have you been banned and are back under an alias?  Cause you talk a huge game for 7 posts.  There are a few legit cappers on covers and you just clowned on one of them.
     
    Dustman1
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2008 - 6:00 PM ET #146

    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:

    THE OVER......

    .....is 5-0 on MNF this year.... anyone on these posts knows i keep preaching it....

    ..... saved my ass last night because I took the Saints moneyline and my huge loss turned out to be a very small loss.....

    ..... has been the case in the majority of games in the NFL this year......

    ......will hit when the Giants score 30+ on the Cleveland Defense....

    Gotta love the over!! probably a small play on G-Men as well!! Good-Luck to all
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    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:

    THE OVER......

    .....is 5-0 on MNF this year.... anyone on these posts knows i keep preaching it....

    ..... saved my ass last night because I took the Saints moneyline and my huge loss turned out to be a very small loss.....

    ..... has been the case in the majority of games in the NFL this year......

    ......will hit when the Giants score 30+ on the Cleveland Defense....

    Gotta love the over!! probably a small play on G-Men as well!! Good-Luck to all
     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2008 - 6:02 PM ET #147

    for what its worth... the Giants went up 30-17 in the first half of the preseason game.  Giants did not use all their starters, but Cleveland used most of them.  So I'm guessing Giants will be even tougher this time.  And Eli was in the first half, so I am just imagining what he'll do when he's in there the whole time???!!!  I can see Jacobs running all over the hurt Cleveland Def.  Plus, Giants defense has definitely surprised everybody with how well they've played.  And Cleveland's OFFENSE has only 4 TD's THIS YEAR(5 GAMES).  That being said, I think Giants will run all over this defense tonight, and Eli sets up play action at prefect times to dominate.  Giants Defense hold their end of the team, and shut down Anderson.  Look to see Brady Quinn tonight though! Been waiting for the day Brady gets the starting role, maybe after tonight??? All-in-all, I think it doesnt matter if the Browns show up tonight in some fluke, in the end, Giants are twice the team, Defensively and Offensively.  You Giant backers, dont worry about the Cincy game, with good coaching, the Giants have proven they are already over that one! Giants need this win before they start their "tough schedule".

     

    My Prediction:  NYG 34  CLE 16

     

    Only going OVER because of the MNF Trend this year...(small play)

    But definitely taking NYG -9 ... (BIG)

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    for what its worth... the Giants went up 30-17 in the first half of the preseason game.  Giants did not use all their starters, but Cleveland used most of them.  So I'm guessing Giants will be even tougher this time.  And Eli was in the first half, so I am just imagining what he'll do when he's in there the whole time???!!!  I can see Jacobs running all over the hurt Cleveland Def.  Plus, Giants defense has definitely surprised everybody with how well they've played.  And Cleveland's OFFENSE has only 4 TD's THIS YEAR(5 GAMES).  That being said, I think Giants will run all over this defense tonight, and Eli sets up play action at prefect times to dominate.  Giants Defense hold their end of the team, and shut down Anderson.  Look to see Brady Quinn tonight though! Been waiting for the day Brady gets the starting role, maybe after tonight??? All-in-all, I think it doesnt matter if the Browns show up tonight in some fluke, in the end, Giants are twice the team, Defensively and Offensively.  You Giant backers, dont worry about the Cincy game, with good coaching, the Giants have proven they are already over that one! Giants need this win before they start their "tough schedule".

     

    My Prediction:  NYG 34  CLE 16

     

    Only going OVER because of the MNF Trend this year...(small play)

    But definitely taking NYG -9 ... (BIG)

     
    CallMeBruce
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2008 - 6:03 PM ET #148

    Quote Originally Posted by MadBomberVince:

    New poster, been reading for years though.  The Giants on the ML seems like a virtual lock to me.  Someone play devil's advocate who isn't a (rather unrealistic) Browns homer...there's a lot more financial risk involved in a moneyline wager if you want it to pay...this is the only game I am touching as I am new to the west coast and didn't realize the Sox were playing already :( would've liked the 2 team ML parlay.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadBomberVince:

    New poster, been reading for years though.  The Giants on the ML seems like a virtual lock to me.  Someone play devil's advocate who isn't a (rather unrealistic) Browns homer...there's a lot more financial risk involved in a moneyline wager if you want it to pay...this is the only game I am touching as I am new to the west coast and didn't realize the Sox were playing already :( would've liked the 2 team ML parlay.

     

    Thoughts?  Sorry, I wish I had some valuable insight...just looking for some!  MBV



    Any given Sunday/Monday.

    There is a City in the Desert for a reason.
     
    Irisheyez
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2008 - 6:03 PM ET #149

    Too much negativity on the thread boys and girls........nobody is right all the time!!  So stop calling someone out for being wrong and stop acting like YOU are never wrong!!! .......politics and music are for another sight..........you better be careful or BigD will pen one of his classic scolding notes to all the children in the class. 
     
    Giants are the number one offense in the league.........the Browns are #32(Last).  The Giants Defense is #3 in the league..........two teams going very opposite ways.......but the fact that it is a road game affords the Giants and the staff to keep them focused on the game and the inherant difficulties of life on the road in the NFL as a big favorite.  The Browns won all 10 games against teams with .500 or less winning percentages last year!  The six loses came against teams with winning records......they were not that good last year and far, far worse this year.  Sometimes.........the book can't hide........I believe it is that kind of game tonight.  I'll take the bet that will be the least played action tonight......the cover/under.  My gut tells me the over.......but the numbers suggest the under.  GL to all.......and keep it positve and supportive........eh?
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    Too much negativity on the thread boys and girls........nobody is right all the time!!  So stop calling someone out for being wrong and stop acting like YOU are never wrong!!! .......politics and music are for another sight..........you better be careful or BigD will pen one of his classic scolding notes to all the children in the class. 
     
    Giants are the number one offense in the league.........the Browns are #32(Last).  The Giants Defense is #3 in the league..........two teams going very opposite ways.......but the fact that it is a road game affords the Giants and the staff to keep them focused on the game and the inherant difficulties of life on the road in the NFL as a big favorite.  The Browns won all 10 games against teams with .500 or less winning percentages last year!  The six loses came against teams with winning records......they were not that good last year and far, far worse this year.  Sometimes.........the book can't hide........I believe it is that kind of game tonight.  I'll take the bet that will be the least played action tonight......the cover/under.  My gut tells me the over.......but the numbers suggest the under.  GL to all.......and keep it positve and supportive........eh?
     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2008 - 6:05 PM ET #150

    sampson i dont copy shit.....thats what u call good ass researching.....anyone who takes this shit serious knows that INFORMATION AND KNOWLEDGE IS THE KEY TO SUCCESS......ALONG WITH GOOD MONEYMANAGEMENT....  
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    sampson i dont copy shit.....thats what u call good ass researching.....anyone who takes this shit serious knows that INFORMATION AND KNOWLEDGE IS THE KEY TO SUCCESS......ALONG WITH GOOD MONEYMANAGEMENT....  
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