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    New York at Cincinnati (01/09/2010)

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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2010 - 4:07 PM ET #126

    Quote Originally Posted by W8LIFTER:

    Called smart money, bro. . .

    Now,,,,Covers.com has it back to Cinci -2.5.....r they fucking with us or what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by W8LIFTER:

    Called smart money, bro. . .

    Now,,,,Covers.com has it back to Cinci -2.5.....r they fucking with us or what?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2010 - 4:15 PM ET #127

    Quote Originally Posted by tay68:

    last week the JETS just got luck to win that game... But the real game is here for the CINCINNATI so Jake Palmer will take his team to the next level......  

    hmmm... i guess 37-0 is pretty lucky...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tay68:

    last week the JETS just got luck to win that game... But the real game is here for the CINCINNATI so Jake Palmer will take his team to the next level......  

    hmmm... i guess 37-0 is pretty lucky...

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2010 - 4:16 PM ET #128

    Quote Originally Posted by angrytiger:

    A lot to think about in this game and there are some pretty compelling arguments for Cincy in this thread if you look at key wins or losses during the season.

    Irish is right - that Jets 10-7 loss to Atlanta is troubling.
    And Shickson's idea re. Cincy's holding out a game plan to learn from what the Jets did last week is also interesting.

    However, when I just look at the way I think these two teams match up specifically against one another, what I keep coming back to is the struggles the Nati. offense has had in it's last 8 weeks.

    Which is that they're averaging 15.6 points a game.
    In their last 22 red zone trips they only have 7 touchdowns.
    They are the worst scoring team in the playoffs (at 24th).
    And Cedric Benson hasn't scored one since November 8th.

    Ocho Cinco himself said the offense "has been struggling all season" and we saw some evidence last week that if he gets blanketed by a shut-down corner, taking away their ability to stretch the field, their running game will struggle as well. 

    Another stat I found is that Carson Palmer's numbers drop significantly when he faces 5 rushers instead of 4, and we know for a fact that Jets really like rushing more than 4 guys at the quarterback.

    You think about all of the above and realize they're going up against the Jets defense and to me, it's just a mismatch.

    On the Jet's side of the ball, the Bengals obviously do have a strong defense and are getting a couple of healthy guys back, though they lose Ray Maulauga.  And yes, Sanchez is a rook, although has had NO turnovers in the last two weeks based on a recent awareness that it's important, and he is no stranger to big game atmospheres.  We also know the kid is scrappy and not afraid to run for a first down or scramble to make a play if he needs to.

    The Jets, and I had to look at this one twice, have averaged 172 yards rushing a game this season!?  In the NFL?!  Those are college numbers man!  Regardless of what happens today, that's just sick.  Faneca and Mangold are both going to the pro bowl and as a team they broke the franchise record cashing in 2756 yards on the season.

    Everyone keeps bringing up the fact that the last two teams they faced tanked their games allowing them to roll into the playoffs and while that is absolutely the truth it still allowed New York to create an enormous amount of momentum and confidence coming into this game.

    One other X-factor is the Jets actually have more playoff experienced guys on their roster than the Bengals, 26 to 13.

    All the Chris Henry V. Rex Ryan braggadocio can just be thrown out the window in my opinion.

    The guys are going to decide this game on the field and unless Cincinnati produces a dramatic turnaround offensively from what they've shown in the last 2 months of football, the Jets are going to win this game.

    very good in depth research,tiger.i'm all over JETS/OVER.was before but now i'm really there!!!! 
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    Quote Originally Posted by angrytiger:

    A lot to think about in this game and there are some pretty compelling arguments for Cincy in this thread if you look at key wins or losses during the season.

    Irish is right - that Jets 10-7 loss to Atlanta is troubling.
    And Shickson's idea re. Cincy's holding out a game plan to learn from what the Jets did last week is also interesting.

    However, when I just look at the way I think these two teams match up specifically against one another, what I keep coming back to is the struggles the Nati. offense has had in it's last 8 weeks.

    Which is that they're averaging 15.6 points a game.
    In their last 22 red zone trips they only have 7 touchdowns.
    They are the worst scoring team in the playoffs (at 24th).
    And Cedric Benson hasn't scored one since November 8th.

    Ocho Cinco himself said the offense "has been struggling all season" and we saw some evidence last week that if he gets blanketed by a shut-down corner, taking away their ability to stretch the field, their running game will struggle as well. 

    Another stat I found is that Carson Palmer's numbers drop significantly when he faces 5 rushers instead of 4, and we know for a fact that Jets really like rushing more than 4 guys at the quarterback.

    You think about all of the above and realize they're going up against the Jets defense and to me, it's just a mismatch.

    On the Jet's side of the ball, the Bengals obviously do have a strong defense and are getting a couple of healthy guys back, though they lose Ray Maulauga.  And yes, Sanchez is a rook, although has had NO turnovers in the last two weeks based on a recent awareness that it's important, and he is no stranger to big game atmospheres.  We also know the kid is scrappy and not afraid to run for a first down or scramble to make a play if he needs to.

    The Jets, and I had to look at this one twice, have averaged 172 yards rushing a game this season!?  In the NFL?!  Those are college numbers man!  Regardless of what happens today, that's just sick.  Faneca and Mangold are both going to the pro bowl and as a team they broke the franchise record cashing in 2756 yards on the season.

    Everyone keeps bringing up the fact that the last two teams they faced tanked their games allowing them to roll into the playoffs and while that is absolutely the truth it still allowed New York to create an enormous amount of momentum and confidence coming into this game.

    One other X-factor is the Jets actually have more playoff experienced guys on their roster than the Bengals, 26 to 13.

    All the Chris Henry V. Rex Ryan braggadocio can just be thrown out the window in my opinion.

    The guys are going to decide this game on the field and unless Cincinnati produces a dramatic turnaround offensively from what they've shown in the last 2 months of football, the Jets are going to win this game.

    very good in depth research,tiger.i'm all over JETS/OVER.was before but now i'm really there!!!! 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2010 - 4:18 PM ET #129

    3 paly tease:

     

    Cinci +7.5,    U 44,

    Phil +13.5

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    3 paly tease:

     

    Cinci +7.5,    U 44,

    Phil +13.5

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2010 - 4:19 PM ET #130

    sorry to have my message on your post.
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    sorry to have my message on your post.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2010 - 4:24 PM ET #131

    Cinci -2.5 5 units

    Over 33.5 5 Units

    Cinci +4.5
    Over 26.5 10 Unit Tease

    Jets are frauds. Don't belong in playoffs. #1 defense or not. They backed in to the playoffs by two teams sitting down. Rookie Qb on the road.. come on people.
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    Cinci -2.5 5 units

    Over 33.5 5 Units

    Cinci +4.5
    Over 26.5 10 Unit Tease

    Jets are frauds. Don't belong in playoffs. #1 defense or not. They backed in to the playoffs by two teams sitting down. Rookie Qb on the road.. come on people.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2010 - 4:24 PM ET #132

    CINCY - 2.5...  The bengals win this game by at least 10.  It's easy to beat cincy when none of there starters are playing.  Now, it's back to reality.  Look for Chad Ochocinco to have 80 yards and 2 tds.  Go Bengals...

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    CINCY - 2.5...  The bengals win this game by at least 10.  It's easy to beat cincy when none of there starters are playing.  Now, it's back to reality.  Look for Chad Ochocinco to have 80 yards and 2 tds.  Go Bengals...

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2010 - 4:25 PM ET #133

    Jets +2.5

    These are 2 very similar teams. Both love to run the ball and play defense. The way that Ryan has been running his mouth I think he will have the Jets ready to play. The key here is for the Jets to keep Ocho Cinco quiet. If he isn't a big factor, then the Bengals will have a hard time running the ball. 
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    Jets +2.5

    These are 2 very similar teams. Both love to run the ball and play defense. The way that Ryan has been running his mouth I think he will have the Jets ready to play. The key here is for the Jets to keep Ocho Cinco quiet. If he isn't a big factor, then the Bengals will have a hard time running the ball. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2010 - 4:32 PM ET #134

    I need a little monkey to flip a freaking coin.

    Cinn ML.   Palmer is the difference.  Carson.
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    I need a little monkey to flip a freaking coin.

    Cinn ML.   Palmer is the difference.  Carson.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2010 - 4:33 PM ET #135

    bengals all day jets enterin the jungle with benson back them jets boys better take jets back home
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    bengals all day jets enterin the jungle with benson back them jets boys better take jets back home
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2010 - 6:06 PM ET #136

    Looks like the only rookies on the field are the Bungles
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    Looks like the only rookies on the field are the Bungles
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2010 - 6:08 PM ET #137

    J E T S, J E T S, J E T S........

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    J E T S, J E T S, J E T S........

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2010 - 6:12 PM ET #138

    2nd hlf Jets +2.5 over 16.5
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    2nd hlf Jets +2.5 over 16.5
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2010 - 6:46 PM ET #139

    i am sure of it now ,Marvin Lewis is good at accumulation of talent and calling defense...but he cannot call a game or understand what is goin on with his teams..worst, he cannot come back from behind
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    i am sure of it now ,Marvin Lewis is good at accumulation of talent and calling defense...but he cannot call a game or understand what is goin on with his teams..worst, he cannot come back from behind
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2010 - 6:48 PM ET #140

    game mvp: jay feely who never let cinny get momentum in that 1st half...but 4 real o-line
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    game mvp: jay feely who never let cinny get momentum in that 1st half...but 4 real o-line
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2010 - 6:50 PM ET #141

    How about them Bungles backers?  Karma speaks loud and clear! Trust in W8!
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    How about them Bungles backers?  Karma speaks loud and clear! Trust in W8!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2010 - 6:52 PM ET #142

    Quote Originally Posted by implusive:

    Now,,,,Covers.com has it back to Cinci -2.5.....r they fucking with us or what?

    Called the books suckering inexperienced bettors in, as you can see now. . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by implusive:

    Now,,,,Covers.com has it back to Cinci -2.5.....r they fucking with us or what?

    Called the books suckering inexperienced bettors in, as you can see now. . .

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2010 - 6:53 PM ET #143

    cinny -1 at home!!!! and they chokin!!!! costin me $$$$
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    cinny -1 at home!!!! and they chokin!!!! costin me $$$$
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2010 - 7:16 PM ET #144

      This isn't the same Cincy that beat the packers, steelers and ravens who the eff did I bet on tonight ?
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      This isn't the same Cincy that beat the packers, steelers and ravens who the eff did I bet on tonight ?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2010 - 7:19 PM ET #145

    Quote Originally Posted by W8LIFTER:

    Called the books suckering inexperienced bettors in, as you can see now. . .

     

    What the Fuck is your dumb ass talking about ?

    The Cincy team that has had way tougher competition

    A more experienced and better quarter back

    The teams are similar in offensive and defensive numbers

    and FUckin Cincy has Won 5 straight at home

    What did your genius ass see that the bungles backers didn't ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by W8LIFTER:

    Called the books suckering inexperienced bettors in, as you can see now. . .

     

    What the Fuck is your dumb ass talking about ?

    The Cincy team that has had way tougher competition

    A more experienced and better quarter back

    The teams are similar in offensive and defensive numbers

    and FUckin Cincy has Won 5 straight at home

    What did your genius ass see that the bungles backers didn't ?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2010 - 7:36 PM ET #146

    Quote Originally Posted by Coloneljim:

    New York - 20                                     Cincinnati - 16

    Jets +4                              under 45

    Cincy is a pretty good bounce back team, but if the Jets could hold up defensively and Sanchez could avoid any costly mistakes they just might exit the Queen City with an upset "W".

    I'll take the Jets +4 

    Jets and over 34.5 is money in the bank for the Colonel.   24 - 14 score = 38

            20 - 16 prediction = 36

    nice call colonel

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coloneljim:

    New York - 20                                     Cincinnati - 16

    Jets +4                              under 45

    Cincy is a pretty good bounce back team, but if the Jets could hold up defensively and Sanchez could avoid any costly mistakes they just might exit the Queen City with an upset "W".

    I'll take the Jets +4 

    Jets and over 34.5 is money in the bank for the Colonel.   24 - 14 score = 38

            20 - 16 prediction = 36

    nice call colonel

     

     
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by OnlyGod]

     

    What the Fuck is your dumb ass talking about ?

    The Cincy team that has had way tougher competition

    A more experienced and better quarter back

    The teams are similar in offensive and defensive numbers

    and FUckin Cincy has Won 5 straight at home

    What did your genius ass see that the bungles backers didn't ?

    [/Quote]j e t s jets jets jets
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by OnlyGod]

     

    What the Fuck is your dumb ass talking about ?

    The Cincy team that has had way tougher competition

    A more experienced and better quarter back

    The teams are similar in offensive and defensive numbers

    and FUckin Cincy has Won 5 straight at home

    What did your genius ass see that the bungles backers didn't ?

    [/Quote]j e t s jets jets jets
     
    jgenti
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2010 - 7:37 PM ET #148

    cowboys next
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    cowboys next
     
    spitfire9
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2010 - 7:41 PM ET #149

     Congrats on them Jets and all J E T S backers however 8Dumblifter you aint in no position to brag looking at your recent picks.
    Better luck to you ! 

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     Congrats on them Jets and all J E T S backers however 8Dumblifter you aint in no position to brag looking at your recent picks.
    Better luck to you ! 

     
     
    W8LIFTER
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2010 - 7:48 PM ET #150

    Quote Originally Posted by spitfire9:

     Congrats on them Jets and all J E T S backers however 8Dumblifter you aint in no position to brag looking at your recent picks.
    Better luck to you ! 

    Yea, lets all look at my picks dumbfucks. . . When you OR anyone on this f-in forum nails 5 str8 games in the same day give me a shout retards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spitfire9:

     Congrats on them Jets and all J E T S backers however 8Dumblifter you aint in no position to brag looking at your recent picks.
    Better luck to you ! 

    Yea, lets all look at my picks dumbfucks. . . When you OR anyone on this f-in forum nails 5 str8 games in the same day give me a shout retards.

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