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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2010 - 10:12 AM ET #51

    SAINTS
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    SAINTS
     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2010 - 10:46 AM ET #52

    Spytheweb, In the first game against your NY Gaymen, they knocked out Romo then in came Kitna who hasn't played in a few years and the Giants only won by 6, then in game two Dallas beat your team fairly easily by 13 with the same back up QB and  a new head coach. Now lets see in the last 3 games who has played better? (Dallas).Oh and what happened when we both played the Titans? Dallas lost by 7 the Giants lost by 19. Dallas has just as much talent if not more then the Giants. Just keep your idiotic comments to yourself or to the rest of your Giants fans who year after year think the Ginats are SuperBowl bound.
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    Spytheweb, In the first game against your NY Gaymen, they knocked out Romo then in came Kitna who hasn't played in a few years and the Giants only won by 6, then in game two Dallas beat your team fairly easily by 13 with the same back up QB and  a new head coach. Now lets see in the last 3 games who has played better? (Dallas).Oh and what happened when we both played the Titans? Dallas lost by 7 the Giants lost by 19. Dallas has just as much talent if not more then the Giants. Just keep your idiotic comments to yourself or to the rest of your Giants fans who year after year think the Ginats are SuperBowl bound.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2010 - 10:57 AM ET #53

    Quote Originally Posted by Spytheweb:


    The reason the Cowbillies won't win is because they can't cover the pass, and there will be many. They can't run the ball, the line pass blocks but they don't run block and that is why you see so many draw plays.

    If Dallas were to get a lead, they can't hold it because they don't run the ball.

    Eli has done this before, he better go learn how to go down feet first. Eli will be alright he just needs to clam. 


    Just to make sure we're both on the same page - I don't think the Cowgirls win either - but I think they cover. I have Dallas +4.5 in a teaser with the other games today. It's my only bet I'm doing today. Good Luck with your picks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spytheweb:


    The reason the Cowbillies won't win is because they can't cover the pass, and there will be many. They can't run the ball, the line pass blocks but they don't run block and that is why you see so many draw plays.

    If Dallas were to get a lead, they can't hold it because they don't run the ball.

    Eli has done this before, he better go learn how to go down feet first. Eli will be alright he just needs to clam. 


    Just to make sure we're both on the same page - I don't think the Cowgirls win either - but I think they cover. I have Dallas +4.5 in a teaser with the other games today. It's my only bet I'm doing today. Good Luck with your picks.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2010 - 10:59 AM ET #54

    people relying on past Thanksgiving games to give insight on this one... haha that is rich!
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    people relying on past Thanksgiving games to give insight on this one... haha that is rich!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2010 - 11:03 AM ET #55

    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:

    Before I saw this line and knew about the match-up this week.... I said I'll take NO as long as the spread is under 6.5...

    I think the Saints get revenge against the Cowboys in big D.... I never bet the revenge factor and am actually against it completely but with John Kitna I'll take a hungry Saints team making a playoff run....

    3.5 is a gift.... I'm going with the obvious pick on this one...

    Lions +6.5

    Jets -9

    2 favs and a dog for thanksgiving....

    GL TO ALL!

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:

    Before I saw this line and knew about the match-up this week.... I said I'll take NO as long as the spread is under 6.5...

    I think the Saints get revenge against the Cowboys in big D.... I never bet the revenge factor and am actually against it completely but with John Kitna I'll take a hungry Saints team making a playoff run....

    3.5 is a gift.... I'm going with the obvious pick on this one...

    Lions +6.5

    Jets -9

    2 favs and a dog for thanksgiving....

    GL TO ALL!

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2010 - 12:00 PM ET #56

    Quote Originally Posted by njdan:

    Spytheweb, In the first game against your NY Gaymen, they knocked out Romo then in came Kitna who hasn't played in a few years and the Giants only won by 6, then in game two Dallas beat your team fairly easily by 13 with the same back up QB and  a new head coach. Now lets see in the last 3 games who has played better? (Dallas).Oh and what happened when we both played the Titans? Dallas lost by 7 the Giants lost by 19. Dallas has just as much talent if not more then the Giants. Just keep your idiotic comments to yourself or to the rest of your Giants fans who year after year think the Ginats are SuperBowl bound.

    You talk like a true homer. And keep talking gay stuff when your avatar has your mouth in perfect position to receive, man you are pathetic

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    Quote Originally Posted by njdan:

    Spytheweb, In the first game against your NY Gaymen, they knocked out Romo then in came Kitna who hasn't played in a few years and the Giants only won by 6, then in game two Dallas beat your team fairly easily by 13 with the same back up QB and  a new head coach. Now lets see in the last 3 games who has played better? (Dallas).Oh and what happened when we both played the Titans? Dallas lost by 7 the Giants lost by 19. Dallas has just as much talent if not more then the Giants. Just keep your idiotic comments to yourself or to the rest of your Giants fans who year after year think the Ginats are SuperBowl bound.

    You talk like a true homer. And keep talking gay stuff when your avatar has your mouth in perfect position to receive, man you are pathetic

     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2010 - 12:22 PM ET #57

    Quote Originally Posted by njdan:

    You offer little insite to any Cowboys game, just go stay in your dream world and think the Ginats are the best team in the NFL.

    After reading your insightful and logical post, I now know exactly what my bets will be.
    ...Dallas fights the good fight. NO covers. Done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by njdan:

    You offer little insite to any Cowboys game, just go stay in your dream world and think the Ginats are the best team in the NFL.

    After reading your insightful and logical post, I now know exactly what my bets will be.
    ...Dallas fights the good fight. NO covers. Done.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2010 - 12:52 PM ET #58

    What Cowboys team will show up Today ?????
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    What Cowboys team will show up Today ?????
     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2010 - 1:03 PM ET #59

    Saints -3.5

     

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    Saints -3.5

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2010 - 2:03 PM ET #60

    HA LOOKS LIKE VEGAS IS JUMPING SHIP ON DALLAS.....TRYING TO GET SOME OF THAT MONEY BACK...THIS GAME HAS THE FIXINS OF A BLOWOUT!!!!!!

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    HA LOOKS LIKE VEGAS IS JUMPING SHIP ON DALLAS.....TRYING TO GET SOME OF THAT MONEY BACK...THIS GAME HAS THE FIXINS OF A BLOWOUT!!!!!!

     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2010 - 2:13 PM ET #61

    Quote Originally Posted by moviefan:


    No---Home team is in CAPS. Detroit and Dallas always play at home on Thanksgiving.
    Ya know what? If one even has 2 EXPLAIN this, obviously that guy isnt much of a football fan let alone handicapper!
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    Quote Originally Posted by moviefan:


    No---Home team is in CAPS. Detroit and Dallas always play at home on Thanksgiving.
    Ya know what? If one even has 2 EXPLAIN this, obviously that guy isnt much of a football fan let alone handicapper!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2010 - 3:04 PM ET #62

    Saints are just too talented , they win by 7 or more !

    who would you like as your QB Breeze or Kitna ?

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    Saints are just too talented , they win by 7 or more !

    who would you like as your QB Breeze or Kitna ?

     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2010 - 3:22 PM ET #63

    Quote Originally Posted by Big-vegas:

    Here's some food for thought. 87% of the betting public is on the Saints. Yet the line has only moved a half point from openeing?

    Cowboys 4-0 ATS at home on Thanksgiving, Cowboys 5-0 ATS in their last five Thursday games and 15-5 ATS in their 20 November games.

     

    I dont even like the Cowboys but I'm siding with the books on this one!

    Dallas +4  (buying a 1/2 point at 15%)

    HAPPY TURKEY DAY!!

    Doing that on Detroit  NE game cost a lot of "sharp" bettors money, unless there's a miracle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big-vegas:

    Here's some food for thought. 87% of the betting public is on the Saints. Yet the line has only moved a half point from openeing?

    Cowboys 4-0 ATS at home on Thanksgiving, Cowboys 5-0 ATS in their last five Thursday games and 15-5 ATS in their 20 November games.

     

    I dont even like the Cowboys but I'm siding with the books on this one!

    Dallas +4  (buying a 1/2 point at 15%)

    HAPPY TURKEY DAY!!

    Doing that on Detroit  NE game cost a lot of "sharp" bettors money, unless there's a miracle

     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2010 - 3:40 PM ET #64

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteyRose:

    Appreciate the food for thought...here is some dessert for pondering...Vegas got caught with their hand in the cranberry sauce on this line...it probably was a bluff in the first place to use the Cowboys latest success to trick the public into thinking this could be a tight game at home on Turkey day...plus throw in that 1/2 point just to make it even tastier...mmmmm.  However, the public did not bite and now it is better for vegas to stick to their guns and make people think that they still believe Dallas is gonna take their money because personally..if I see vegas move the line to try and get money back on Dallas, I would continue to pound the Saints....Vegas is going to give the public this fav on thanksgiving while the other two dogs cash.  One to keep the public hooked and two to their money.

    *Just conspiracy theory talking but hey whatever

    NO -3.5

    DET +7

    CIN +9


    This is a good post Petey.

    Yes the Cowboys are playing much better.  They may even put up a fair degree of fight today.  Unfortunately, they're playing a team that's been playing football in the right culture for several seasons now while the Boys are just beginning to turn things in the right direction.

    My lean is with the defending champs looking very scary again on BOTH sides of the football - with or without Reggie Bush today, because they've obviously adjusted to life without him this season.

    Saints minus the current 5.5.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PeteyRose:

    Appreciate the food for thought...here is some dessert for pondering...Vegas got caught with their hand in the cranberry sauce on this line...it probably was a bluff in the first place to use the Cowboys latest success to trick the public into thinking this could be a tight game at home on Turkey day...plus throw in that 1/2 point just to make it even tastier...mmmmm.  However, the public did not bite and now it is better for vegas to stick to their guns and make people think that they still believe Dallas is gonna take their money because personally..if I see vegas move the line to try and get money back on Dallas, I would continue to pound the Saints....Vegas is going to give the public this fav on thanksgiving while the other two dogs cash.  One to keep the public hooked and two to their money.

    *Just conspiracy theory talking but hey whatever

    NO -3.5

    DET +7

    CIN +9


    This is a good post Petey.

    Yes the Cowboys are playing much better.  They may even put up a fair degree of fight today.  Unfortunately, they're playing a team that's been playing football in the right culture for several seasons now while the Boys are just beginning to turn things in the right direction.

    My lean is with the defending champs looking very scary again on BOTH sides of the football - with or without Reggie Bush today, because they've obviously adjusted to life without him this season.

    Saints minus the current 5.5.


     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2010 - 3:52 PM ET #65

    Patriots-7 WINNA

    Next Victim Please...

    Go Saints-3

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    Patriots-7 WINNA

    Next Victim Please...

    Go Saints-3

     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2010 - 3:57 PM ET #66

    My Play of the Day is on the Saints -4. Good Luck Guys
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    My Play of the Day is on the Saints -4. Good Luck Guys
     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2010 - 4:01 PM ET #67

    Die hard Saints fan here /  Cowboys +4.5 for me, more of a gut feeling than anything, Cowgirls are on a roll with their new coach and Brees has not been his self this year, to many pics.  Saints may win but it wont be by much, IMO that is.

      GLTA 

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    Die hard Saints fan here /  Cowboys +4.5 for me, more of a gut feeling than anything, Cowgirls are on a roll with their new coach and Brees has not been his self this year, to many pics.  Saints may win but it wont be by much, IMO that is.

      GLTA 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2010 - 4:03 PM ET #68

    It's been a disappointing year for the Dallas Cowboys as their dream of playing in and hosting the Super Bowl appear dead. With making the playoffs taking a miracle, the Cowboys look to play the role of spoiler as Jason Garrett looks to prove that he is a worth candidate to become the actual head Coach as opposed to the interim tag he has been labeled with since taking over for the fired Wade Phillips. Garrett is off to a 2-0 start and he's been helped by the improved play of Jon Kitna who has completed 63.3 percent of his passes for 1,223 yards with 10 touchdowns and seven interceptions. The running game still needs work but it has been improving, picking up key first downs and giving the offense a chance by giving the Cowboys reasonable down and distance to work with. Jason Witten leads all Dallas receivers with 50 catches but Miles Austin leads in yards with 732 and Dez Bryant is becoming the force most expected as he leads in touchdown receptions with six. Bradie James is the Cowboys leading tackler with 76 and Ketih Brooking has 73. DeMarcus Ware has eight and a half sacks and Dallas has 20 as a team. Terrance Newman has two interception and Bryan McCann looks to be a budding star with an interception return for a touchdown and a special teams touchdown in the last two games. As a team Dallas is averaging 22.9 points and 356.6 yards while the defense is allowing 27.1 points and 352.4 yards per game.

    The New Orleans Saints are in second place in the NFC South, a game back of the Atlanta Falcons and in a log jam of teams all tied for what would be two Wild Card spots. The Saints are coming on strong but they have been doing it without their backfield and while rumors of Reggie Bush's return surface just about every Monday, he has yet to return from his injury and Pierre Thomas remains out as well but the Saints will need them over the final portion of the season if they are going to have a shot at repeating. Drew Brees is having another superlative year and is looking like a Hall of Fame cinch as he has completed 69.5 percent of his passes for 2,969 yards with 22 touchdowns and 14 interceptions. Chris Ivory has filled in the backfield gaining 481 yards but scoring just one touchdown. Marques Colston has 62 catches for 705 yards and four touchdowns while Lance Moore has 38 catches for 491 yards and five touchdowns. Jonathan Vilma anchors the defense with 62 tackles and two sacks while Roman Harper has 55 tackles. Sedrick Ellis has four sacks and Jabari Greer leads in interceptions with two but the Saints don't have anywhere near the turnover margin they had last season. For the season New Orleans is averaging 23.5 points and 382.3 yards per game while the defense is allowing 17 points and 291.7 yards per game.

    Dallas is 3-8 against the spread in their last 11 games overall, 1-4 against the spread in their last five home games, and 2-6 against the spread in their last eight against the NFC. New Orleans is 4-1 against the spread in their last five as a favorite, 6-13 against the spread in their last 19 against the NFC, and 3-8 against the spread in their last 11 games following a win. The underdog has covered in the last six meetings of these two.

    These two met last season in New Orleans and it was the Saints first loss of the season in a game that wasn't even competitive. Both of these teams have offenses that are loaded with talent and on the National stage with a game loaded with TV time outs, it means a lot of stoppages and plenty of possessions for both sides.

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    It's been a disappointing year for the Dallas Cowboys as their dream of playing in and hosting the Super Bowl appear dead. With making the playoffs taking a miracle, the Cowboys look to play the role of spoiler as Jason Garrett looks to prove that he is a worth candidate to become the actual head Coach as opposed to the interim tag he has been labeled with since taking over for the fired Wade Phillips. Garrett is off to a 2-0 start and he's been helped by the improved play of Jon Kitna who has completed 63.3 percent of his passes for 1,223 yards with 10 touchdowns and seven interceptions. The running game still needs work but it has been improving, picking up key first downs and giving the offense a chance by giving the Cowboys reasonable down and distance to work with. Jason Witten leads all Dallas receivers with 50 catches but Miles Austin leads in yards with 732 and Dez Bryant is becoming the force most expected as he leads in touchdown receptions with six. Bradie James is the Cowboys leading tackler with 76 and Ketih Brooking has 73. DeMarcus Ware has eight and a half sacks and Dallas has 20 as a team. Terrance Newman has two interception and Bryan McCann looks to be a budding star with an interception return for a touchdown and a special teams touchdown in the last two games. As a team Dallas is averaging 22.9 points and 356.6 yards while the defense is allowing 27.1 points and 352.4 yards per game.

    The New Orleans Saints are in second place in the NFC South, a game back of the Atlanta Falcons and in a log jam of teams all tied for what would be two Wild Card spots. The Saints are coming on strong but they have been doing it without their backfield and while rumors of Reggie Bush's return surface just about every Monday, he has yet to return from his injury and Pierre Thomas remains out as well but the Saints will need them over the final portion of the season if they are going to have a shot at repeating. Drew Brees is having another superlative year and is looking like a Hall of Fame cinch as he has completed 69.5 percent of his passes for 2,969 yards with 22 touchdowns and 14 interceptions. Chris Ivory has filled in the backfield gaining 481 yards but scoring just one touchdown. Marques Colston has 62 catches for 705 yards and four touchdowns while Lance Moore has 38 catches for 491 yards and five touchdowns. Jonathan Vilma anchors the defense with 62 tackles and two sacks while Roman Harper has 55 tackles. Sedrick Ellis has four sacks and Jabari Greer leads in interceptions with two but the Saints don't have anywhere near the turnover margin they had last season. For the season New Orleans is averaging 23.5 points and 382.3 yards per game while the defense is allowing 17 points and 291.7 yards per game.

    Dallas is 3-8 against the spread in their last 11 games overall, 1-4 against the spread in their last five home games, and 2-6 against the spread in their last eight against the NFC. New Orleans is 4-1 against the spread in their last five as a favorite, 6-13 against the spread in their last 19 against the NFC, and 3-8 against the spread in their last 11 games following a win. The underdog has covered in the last six meetings of these two.

    These two met last season in New Orleans and it was the Saints first loss of the season in a game that wasn't even competitive. Both of these teams have offenses that are loaded with talent and on the National stage with a game loaded with TV time outs, it means a lot of stoppages and plenty of possessions for both sides.

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    AceMackenzie
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2010 - 4:03 PM ET #69

    you know what tradition is -

    the Lions Losing on Thanksgiving (again)

    SAINTS ! - 5 , they win by at least a TD

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    you know what tradition is -

    the Lions Losing on Thanksgiving (again)

    SAINTS ! - 5 , they win by at least a TD

     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2010 - 4:06 PM ET #70

    Quote Originally Posted by AceMackenzie:

    you know what tradition is -

    the Lions Losing on Thanksgiving (again)

    SAINTS ! - 5 , they win by at least a TD

    If this is going to be a traditional game then Dallas wins

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    Quote Originally Posted by AceMackenzie:

    you know what tradition is -

    the Lions Losing on Thanksgiving (again)

    SAINTS ! - 5 , they win by at least a TD

    If this is going to be a traditional game then Dallas wins

     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2010 - 4:10 PM ET #71

    The Cowboys are 27-14-1 in Thanksgiving Day games
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    The Cowboys are 27-14-1 in Thanksgiving Day games
     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2010 - 4:14 PM ET #72

    dal +4.5
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    dal +4.5
     
    rekamyenoM
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2010 - 4:16 PM ET #73

    Quote Originally Posted by ozzwald:

    dal +4.5

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozzwald:

    dal +4.5

     
    dege25
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2010 - 4:21 PM ET #74

    NE +3

    DAL +14.5

    CIn +20

    LEGGGO!

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    NE +3

    DAL +14.5

    CIn +20

    LEGGGO!

     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 25, 2010 - 4:24 PM ET #75

    Quote Originally Posted by rekamyenoM:

    The Cowboys are 27-14-1 in Thanksgiving Day games

    Most likely 27-0 vs cupcakes...

    and 0-17 vs teams with balls...

    ...and I'm guessing a tie vs the Lions(ha,ha,ha)

    Today is NOT a cupcake game (for Dallas that is)...

    Go Saints

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    Quote Originally Posted by rekamyenoM:

    The Cowboys are 27-14-1 in Thanksgiving Day games

    Most likely 27-0 vs cupcakes...

    and 0-17 vs teams with balls...

    ...and I'm guessing a tie vs the Lions(ha,ha,ha)

    Today is NOT a cupcake game (for Dallas that is)...

    Go Saints

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