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    New Orleans at Dallas (11/25/2010)

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    Posted: Nov. 21, 2010 - 10:43 AM ET #1

    Away:  New Orleans [5-5 ATS]
    Home:  Dallas [3-7 ATS]

    Game Time: 4:15 PM
    Stadium: Cowboys Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
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    Team Leaders:

    New Orleans:
    Passing: Drew Brees (2969)
    Rushing: Christopher Ivory (481)
    Receiving: Marques Colston (705)

    Dallas:
    Passing: Tony Romo (1605)
    Rushing: Felix Jones (404)
    Receiving: Miles Austin (732)

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    Away:  New Orleans [5-5 ATS]
    Home:  Dallas [3-7 ATS]

    Game Time: 4:15 PM
    Stadium: Cowboys Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    N/A

    Team Leaders:

    New Orleans:
    Passing: Drew Brees (2969)
    Rushing: Christopher Ivory (481)
    Receiving: Marques Colston (705)

    Dallas:
    Passing: Tony Romo (1605)
    Rushing: Felix Jones (404)
    Receiving: Miles Austin (732)

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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 4:21 AM ET #2

    Normally I would say under. But I don't see much defense.  Give me over 50.  Unlike the Lions and Pats game, this one has two offenses that can score points.  I see a 28-24 type game here.
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    Normally I would say under. But I don't see much defense.  Give me over 50.  Unlike the Lions and Pats game, this one has two offenses that can score points.  I see a 28-24 type game here.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 4:36 AM ET #3

    This is the New Orleans Saints of the 09'-10' season that I know. Although they have played majority of this season without (RB) R. Bush, (RB) P. Thomas, (TE) J. Shockey, (S) D. Sharper and (CB) M. Jenkins, they have done pretty well all considering their handicap. The most impressive win was of course against Pittsburgh Steelers. Pitt's Defense is no joke and considered one of the elite squad when talking about "who has the best defense". In that game and most of this season, N.O. Saints "D" has become a force to be reckoned with. They have kept this team alive while struggling in the offensive side of the ball. 
      This Thanks Giving will be a game to watch and see for the first time in a long time, the Defending Champions at their best as most, if not all the core of this offense back in action. Bush, Thomas, Shockey and Sharper will be starting. Now we will see the high powered  offense we all know. Brees has been averaging 300 yards through the air but I expect that paired with 250 yards on the ground. Bush will be back returning punts and kick-offs as well as lining up in the "I" formation. Shockey of course will be there on 3rd down conversions along w/ play action to Meachum, Thomas or Bush. Dallas has not yet played an offense as versatile as this team and will bring them back to reality. Sure they beat the G-Men but the G-Men really beat themselves in that game as they took them for granted. Dallas beat Detroit Lions. "SO WHAT". The Lions? Nuff Said. Blow Out! Blow Out! Blow Out!

    NO Saints 40+ points
    Dallas 18 maybe 20        Saints -3.5  XXTRA LARGE

    Two Dat. Saints Roll By





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    This is the New Orleans Saints of the 09'-10' season that I know. Although they have played majority of this season without (RB) R. Bush, (RB) P. Thomas, (TE) J. Shockey, (S) D. Sharper and (CB) M. Jenkins, they have done pretty well all considering their handicap. The most impressive win was of course against Pittsburgh Steelers. Pitt's Defense is no joke and considered one of the elite squad when talking about "who has the best defense". In that game and most of this season, N.O. Saints "D" has become a force to be reckoned with. They have kept this team alive while struggling in the offensive side of the ball. 
      This Thanks Giving will be a game to watch and see for the first time in a long time, the Defending Champions at their best as most, if not all the core of this offense back in action. Bush, Thomas, Shockey and Sharper will be starting. Now we will see the high powered  offense we all know. Brees has been averaging 300 yards through the air but I expect that paired with 250 yards on the ground. Bush will be back returning punts and kick-offs as well as lining up in the "I" formation. Shockey of course will be there on 3rd down conversions along w/ play action to Meachum, Thomas or Bush. Dallas has not yet played an offense as versatile as this team and will bring them back to reality. Sure they beat the G-Men but the G-Men really beat themselves in that game as they took them for granted. Dallas beat Detroit Lions. "SO WHAT". The Lions? Nuff Said. Blow Out! Blow Out! Blow Out!

    NO Saints 40+ points
    Dallas 18 maybe 20        Saints -3.5  XXTRA LARGE

    Two Dat. Saints Roll By





     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 7:41 AM ET #4

    BREES DOES DALLAS XXX to XIV
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    BREES DOES DALLAS XXX to XIV
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 11:56 AM ET #5

    Back to reality Ginger.
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    Back to reality Ginger.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 12:17 PM ET #6

      On the surface, the Saints appear to be the obvious play. However, with the Cowboys showing a little life, coupled with the fact that they play conference foes extremely well (ATS), the game makes for a lot of uncertaincies. Therefore, I wouldn't take a side, but most likely would consider playing the UNDER.
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      On the surface, the Saints appear to be the obvious play. However, with the Cowboys showing a little life, coupled with the fact that they play conference foes extremely well (ATS), the game makes for a lot of uncertaincies. Therefore, I wouldn't take a side, but most likely would consider playing the UNDER.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 12:19 PM ET #7

    I would take DALLAS +3.5
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    I would take DALLAS +3.5
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 2:34 PM ET #8

    O.K., I know it's the high powered Saints, but the Cowboys are now playing like they should have been all season long. They've got a coach that they and the fans respect now, and everybody's pretty much healthy and playing - except Romo, but Kitna's not much different than him anyways.

    Plus I think Reggie Bush being back actually will slow this offense down some.

    I love home dogs, especially the Cowgirlies, especially on Thanksgiving playing for the Thanksgiving pride and tradition - I gotta take the Cowgirls +3.5

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    O.K., I know it's the high powered Saints, but the Cowboys are now playing like they should have been all season long. They've got a coach that they and the fans respect now, and everybody's pretty much healthy and playing - except Romo, but Kitna's not much different than him anyways.

    Plus I think Reggie Bush being back actually will slow this offense down some.

    I love home dogs, especially the Cowgirlies, especially on Thanksgiving playing for the Thanksgiving pride and tradition - I gotta take the Cowgirls +3.5

     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 3:49 PM ET #9

    THANKS GIVING DAY RECORDS LAST 10 YEARS
    Nov23,2000
      DETROIT34, New England 9
      Minnesota27, DALLAS15
    Nov22,2001
      Green Bay29, DETROIT 27
      Denver 26, DALLAS 24
    Nov28,2002
      New England20, DETROIT12
      DALLAS 27, Washington20
    Nov27,2003
      DETROIT22, Green Bay 14
      Miami 40, DALLAS 21
    Nov25, 2004
      Indianapolis41, DETROIT9
      DALLAS21, Chicago 7
    Nov24, 2005
      Atlanta27, DETROIT7
      Denver 24, DALLAS 21 (OT)
    Nov23,2006
      Miami 27, DETROIT10
      DALLAS 38, Tampa Bay10
    Nov22,2007
      Green Bay37, DETROIT26
      DALLAS34, New York Jet3
    Nov27,2008
      Tennessee 47, DETROIT10
      DALLAS 34, Seattle9
    Nov26,2009
      Green Bay 34, DETROIT 12
      DALLAS 24, Oakland 7
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    THANKS GIVING DAY RECORDS LAST 10 YEARS
    Nov23,2000
      DETROIT34, New England 9
      Minnesota27, DALLAS15
    Nov22,2001
      Green Bay29, DETROIT 27
      Denver 26, DALLAS 24
    Nov28,2002
      New England20, DETROIT12
      DALLAS 27, Washington20
    Nov27,2003
      DETROIT22, Green Bay 14
      Miami 40, DALLAS 21
    Nov25, 2004
      Indianapolis41, DETROIT9
      DALLAS21, Chicago 7
    Nov24, 2005
      Atlanta27, DETROIT7
      Denver 24, DALLAS 21 (OT)
    Nov23,2006
      Miami 27, DETROIT10
      DALLAS 38, Tampa Bay10
    Nov22,2007
      Green Bay37, DETROIT26
      DALLAS34, New York Jet3
    Nov27,2008
      Tennessee 47, DETROIT10
      DALLAS 34, Seattle9
    Nov26,2009
      Green Bay 34, DETROIT 12
      DALLAS 24, Oakland 7
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 4:27 PM ET #10

    Nov24, 2005
      Denver 24, DALLAS 21 (OT)
     
    This was an awesome game for me and my Denver-ML wager.
    I won a few grand on this game. Best Turky Day game wager I ever made.
     
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    Nov24, 2005
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    This was an awesome game for me and my Denver-ML wager.
    I won a few grand on this game. Best Turky Day game wager I ever made.
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 5:34 PM ET #11

    Ha....I remember that game...it was Ron Dayne wasnt it??? with that big run at the end of the game???

    Anyways for you people who think Dallas is starting to heat up...doesnt it seem like the Saints are heating up as well??? Statistically NO blows Dallas out of the water.

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    Ha....I remember that game...it was Ron Dayne wasnt it??? with that big run at the end of the game???

    Anyways for you people who think Dallas is starting to heat up...doesnt it seem like the Saints are heating up as well??? Statistically NO blows Dallas out of the water.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 10:09 PM ET #12

    Don't forget, Dallas is 3-7 for a reason.

    Saints 42, Cowbillies 17.
    Good teams win games, Great teams cover the spread!
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    Don't forget, Dallas is 3-7 for a reason.

    Saints 42, Cowbillies 17.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spytheweb:

    Don't forget, Dallas is 3-7 for a reason.

    Saints 42, Cowbillies 17.

     

    Don't forget your Giants have lost 2 in a row.

    You are by far the biggest Dallas hater I have seen, If you look back to the Giants Cowboys thread you rattled off how the Giants were going to beat the Cowboys and look what happened there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spytheweb:

    Don't forget, Dallas is 3-7 for a reason.

    Saints 42, Cowbillies 17.

     

    Don't forget your Giants have lost 2 in a row.

    You are by far the biggest Dallas hater I have seen, If you look back to the Giants Cowboys thread you rattled off how the Giants were going to beat the Cowboys and look what happened there.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 23, 2010 - 11:46 PM ET #14

    You offer little insite to any Cowboys game, just go stay in your dream world and think the Ginats are the best team in the NFL.
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    You offer little insite to any Cowboys game, just go stay in your dream world and think the Ginats are the best team in the NFL.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2010 - 12:01 AM ET #15

    Before I saw this line and knew about the match-up this week.... I said I'll take NO as long as the spread is under 6.5...

    I think the Saints get revenge against the Cowboys in big D.... I never bet the revenge factor and am actually against it completely but with John Kitna I'll take a hungry Saints team making a playoff run....

    3.5 is a gift.... I'm going with the obvious pick on this one...

    Lions +6.5

    Jets -9

    2 favs and a dog for thanksgiving....

    GL TO ALL!
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    Before I saw this line and knew about the match-up this week.... I said I'll take NO as long as the spread is under 6.5...

    I think the Saints get revenge against the Cowboys in big D.... I never bet the revenge factor and am actually against it completely but with John Kitna I'll take a hungry Saints team making a playoff run....

    3.5 is a gift.... I'm going with the obvious pick on this one...

    Lions +6.5

    Jets -9

    2 favs and a dog for thanksgiving....

    GL TO ALL!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2010 - 12:45 AM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by vue21849:

      On the surface, the Saints appear to be the obvious play. However, with the Cowboys showing a little life, coupled with the fact that they play conference foes extremely well (ATS), the game makes for a lot of uncertaincies. Therefore, I wouldn't take a side, but most likely would consider playing the UNDER.

    Hey Vue!

    Why the under? I know that Saints "D" is strong but the offense averages 32.5 per game in last 2 games played as visitors. 65-9 is the #s for those last 2 games as visitors. They scored those points with out Bush or Thomas. Now that Saints have their multi-threat of a player who lines up in 5 different positions will bring a whole new dynamic for Saints offense and a big headache for defensive coordinators. I think that this is the game where Saints will look like the Saints team that won the Superbowl last season. They may cover the over trhemselves and bring the Cowgirls back to reality. I agree that they seem to have a new spark but this defense has not yet faced an offense such as Brees and Company in full force. they win by double digits.

    Saints 48 (3 pass TD's, 2 Rushing TD's, 1 INT TD,1 Safety,1 FG)

    Cowboys 24 ( 3 TD's, 1 FG)

    Hapy Thanks Giving to All and Aloha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vue21849:

      On the surface, the Saints appear to be the obvious play. However, with the Cowboys showing a little life, coupled with the fact that they play conference foes extremely well (ATS), the game makes for a lot of uncertaincies. Therefore, I wouldn't take a side, but most likely would consider playing the UNDER.

    Hey Vue!

    Why the under? I know that Saints "D" is strong but the offense averages 32.5 per game in last 2 games played as visitors. 65-9 is the #s for those last 2 games as visitors. They scored those points with out Bush or Thomas. Now that Saints have their multi-threat of a player who lines up in 5 different positions will bring a whole new dynamic for Saints offense and a big headache for defensive coordinators. I think that this is the game where Saints will look like the Saints team that won the Superbowl last season. They may cover the over trhemselves and bring the Cowgirls back to reality. I agree that they seem to have a new spark but this defense has not yet faced an offense such as Brees and Company in full force. they win by double digits.

    Saints 48 (3 pass TD's, 2 Rushing TD's, 1 INT TD,1 Safety,1 FG)

    Cowboys 24 ( 3 TD's, 1 FG)

    Hapy Thanks Giving to All and Aloha!

     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2010 - 12:48 AM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by handzdown:

    THANKS GIVING DAY RECORDS LAST 10 YEARS
    Nov23,2000
      DETROIT34, New England 9
      Minnesota27, DALLAS15
    Nov22,2001
      Green Bay29, DETROIT 27
      Denver 26, DALLAS 24
    Nov28,2002
      New England20, DETROIT12
      DALLAS 27, Washington20
    Nov27,2003
      DETROIT22, Green Bay 14
      Miami 40, DALLAS 21
    Nov25, 2004
      Indianapolis41, DETROIT9
      DALLAS21, Chicago 7
    Nov24, 2005
      Atlanta27, DETROIT7
      Denver 24, DALLAS 21 (OT)
    Nov23,2006
      Miami 27, DETROIT10
      DALLAS 38, Tampa Bay10
    Nov22,2007
      Green Bay37, DETROIT26
      DALLAS34, New York Jet3
    Nov27,2008
      Tennessee 47, DETROIT10
      DALLAS 34, Seattle9
    Nov26,2009
      Green Bay 34, DETROIT 12
      DALLAS 24, Oakland 7

    It looks as if Dallas has not won at home in the past 10 Thanks Giving games but has done well as visitors. Is that right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by handzdown:

    THANKS GIVING DAY RECORDS LAST 10 YEARS
    Nov23,2000
      DETROIT34, New England 9
      Minnesota27, DALLAS15
    Nov22,2001
      Green Bay29, DETROIT 27
      Denver 26, DALLAS 24
    Nov28,2002
      New England20, DETROIT12
      DALLAS 27, Washington20
    Nov27,2003
      DETROIT22, Green Bay 14
      Miami 40, DALLAS 21
    Nov25, 2004
      Indianapolis41, DETROIT9
      DALLAS21, Chicago 7
    Nov24, 2005
      Atlanta27, DETROIT7
      Denver 24, DALLAS 21 (OT)
    Nov23,2006
      Miami 27, DETROIT10
      DALLAS 38, Tampa Bay10
    Nov22,2007
      Green Bay37, DETROIT26
      DALLAS34, New York Jet3
    Nov27,2008
      Tennessee 47, DETROIT10
      DALLAS 34, Seattle9
    Nov26,2009
      Green Bay 34, DETROIT 12
      DALLAS 24, Oakland 7

    It looks as if Dallas has not won at home in the past 10 Thanks Giving games but has done well as visitors. Is that right?

     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2010 - 2:04 AM ET #18

    Saints bring the Cowgirls back to reality................

    Saints roll  here................ don't over think it!!

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    Saints bring the Cowgirls back to reality................

    Saints roll  here................ don't over think it!!

     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2010 - 4:08 AM ET #19

    i cant see this game going over.

    35 points is probably the best NO can put down. dallas can kiss this  game goodbye. no more then 14 points for dallas.

     

    UNDER

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    i cant see this game going over.

    35 points is probably the best NO can put down. dallas can kiss this  game goodbye. no more then 14 points for dallas.

     

    UNDER

     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2010 - 8:28 AM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by 808pickyboy:

    It looks as if Dallas has not won at home in the past 10 Thanks Giving games but has done well as visitors. Is that right?


    No---Home team is in CAPS. Detroit and Dallas always play at home on Thanksgiving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 808pickyboy:

    It looks as if Dallas has not won at home in the past 10 Thanks Giving games but has done well as visitors. Is that right?


    No---Home team is in CAPS. Detroit and Dallas always play at home on Thanksgiving.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2010 - 11:53 AM ET #21

    If Wade Phillips was still the coach it would be an easy Saints pick for me. Dallas has a lot of talent on the field but didn't start off the season so well. It seems as though after the firing of Phillips it set off some sort of spark for the Cowboys.

     I still feel that the Saints has the edge on the Cowboys with the Cowboys having Kitna behind center. The Saints defense should be able to get pressure on Kitna and force him to hurry his throws.

    If the Saints defense cannot put pressure on Kitna then the Saints might be in trouble. Kitna having targets like Austin,bryant, and Witten to go to will be too much to handle for the Saints defense if you give any qb too much time.

    Leaning on the Saints

     

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    If Wade Phillips was still the coach it would be an easy Saints pick for me. Dallas has a lot of talent on the field but didn't start off the season so well. It seems as though after the firing of Phillips it set off some sort of spark for the Cowboys.

     I still feel that the Saints has the edge on the Cowboys with the Cowboys having Kitna behind center. The Saints defense should be able to get pressure on Kitna and force him to hurry his throws.

    If the Saints defense cannot put pressure on Kitna then the Saints might be in trouble. Kitna having targets like Austin,bryant, and Witten to go to will be too much to handle for the Saints defense if you give any qb too much time.

    Leaning on the Saints

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2010 - 1:52 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by Spytheweb:

    Don't forget, Dallas is 3-7 for a reason.

    Saints 42, Cowbillies 17.



    I'm obviously a homer and will not offer a pick on a side on this one but Dallas is 3-7 for a reason?  Yeah, the reason is that they had WAY too laid back of a culture and quite possibly the WORST head coach in the history of the NFL.  This is NOT the same team as you can see by their 2-0 start under Garrett with Kitna as the starter. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spytheweb:

    Don't forget, Dallas is 3-7 for a reason.

    Saints 42, Cowbillies 17.



    I'm obviously a homer and will not offer a pick on a side on this one but Dallas is 3-7 for a reason?  Yeah, the reason is that they had WAY too laid back of a culture and quite possibly the WORST head coach in the history of the NFL.  This is NOT the same team as you can see by their 2-0 start under Garrett with Kitna as the starter. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2010 - 1:52 PM ET #23

    Saints are NOT beating Dallas that bad.  It will be a FG victory at the most I think...
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    Saints are NOT beating Dallas that bad.  It will be a FG victory at the most I think...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2010 - 2:21 PM ET #24

    Thinking Pats (-0.5), Cowboys (+10.5) and Jets (-2.5) teaser for +160? 


    If not that, then just the Pats and Jets. I can see the Cowboys getting beat by 7+ pretty easily here and ruining that teaser. 
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    Thinking Pats (-0.5), Cowboys (+10.5) and Jets (-2.5) teaser for +160? 


    If not that, then just the Pats and Jets. I can see the Cowboys getting beat by 7+ pretty easily here and ruining that teaser. 
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 24, 2010 - 3:51 PM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by njdan:

    You offer little insite to any Cowboys game, just go stay in your dream world and think the Ginats are the best team in the NFL.

    Giants are not the best team in the NFL, but they are better than the Cowbillies. Giants 6-4 vs. Cowbillies 3-7, soon to be 3-8. Your record is who you are.

    Talk about dream worlds, mark my words, come July Dallas will again to picked to be favored to win the NFC east despite the fact they have not done anything in the last 15 years.

    My insight into the Cowbillies is this every year there is a big build up on how much talent they have, hey, this is the NFL every team has talent. Miles Austin got alot of press in the off season, where is he? Austin, Crayton and Hurd are the same guy. Dallas signed him to a 6 yr 54 million dollar deal, they wasted their money.

    Jerry Jones has to show his mug at every game, what's up with that? Some teams i have never seen the owner, but not Dallas.

    Dallas is a really bad team, that works the hype, smoke and mirrors and their fans swallow every bit of it. Please NFL grow a backbone and take Dallas out of the NFL east, what has Dallas got in common with NY, Philly and Washington being 1,500 miles away?

    It's too bad the national has to watch a couple of 2-8 & 3-7 teams play on Thanksgiving day, but i give thanks that Dallas is 3-7.

    Saints 42, Dallas 17, Dallas last minute 4th quarter TD.
    Good teams win games, Great teams cover the spread!
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    Quote Originally Posted by njdan:

    You offer little insite to any Cowboys game, just go stay in your dream world and think the Ginats are the best team in the NFL.

    Giants are not the best team in the NFL, but they are better than the Cowbillies. Giants 6-4 vs. Cowbillies 3-7, soon to be 3-8. Your record is who you are.

    Talk about dream worlds, mark my words, come July Dallas will again to picked to be favored to win the NFC east despite the fact they have not done anything in the last 15 years.

    My insight into the Cowbillies is this every year there is a big build up on how much talent they have, hey, this is the NFL every team has talent. Miles Austin got alot of press in the off season, where is he? Austin, Crayton and Hurd are the same guy. Dallas signed him to a 6 yr 54 million dollar deal, they wasted their money.

    Jerry Jones has to show his mug at every game, what's up with that? Some teams i have never seen the owner, but not Dallas.

    Dallas is a really bad team, that works the hype, smoke and mirrors and their fans swallow every bit of it. Please NFL grow a backbone and take Dallas out of the NFL east, what has Dallas got in common with NY, Philly and Washington being 1,500 miles away?

    It's too bad the national has to watch a couple of 2-8 & 3-7 teams play on Thanksgiving day, but i give thanks that Dallas is 3-7.

    Saints 42, Dallas 17, Dallas last minute 4th quarter TD.
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