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    New England at Denver (01/24/2016)

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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2016 - 8:34 PM ET #1

    Away:  New England [8-7-2 ATS]
    Home:  Denver [8-8-1 ATS]

    Game Time: 3:05 PM
    Stadium: Sports Authority Field at Mile High

    Featured Lines

    Recent Meetings:
    11/29/15 - NE 24 vs. DEN 30

    Team Leaders:

    New England:
    Passing: Tom Brady (5072)
    Rushing: LeGarrette Blount (703)
    Receiving: Rob Gronkowski (1259)

    Denver:
    Passing: Peyton Manning (2471)
    Rushing: Ronnie Hillman (901)
    Receiving: Demaryius Thomas (1344)

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    Away:  New England [8-7-2 ATS]
    Home:  Denver [8-8-1 ATS]

    Game Time: 3:05 PM
    Stadium: Sports Authority Field at Mile High

    Featured Lines

    Recent Meetings:
    11/29/15 - NE 24 vs. DEN 30

    Team Leaders:

    New England:
    Passing: Tom Brady (5072)
    Rushing: LeGarrette Blount (703)
    Receiving: Rob Gronkowski (1259)

    Denver:
    Passing: Peyton Manning (2471)
    Rushing: Ronnie Hillman (901)
    Receiving: Demaryius Thomas (1344)

     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2016 - 7:37 AM ET #2

    Not the Brady/Manning matchup of past...  but, still should be a helluva game. Broncos' 4th qtr rushing attack vs Steelers impressive. Osweiler now playable? I jumped early and layed 3 1/2 pts, maybe should have held off a bit.... Anyway, Pats by what?... 5?

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    Not the Brady/Manning matchup of past...  but, still should be a helluva game. Broncos' 4th qtr rushing attack vs Steelers impressive. Osweiler now playable? I jumped early and layed 3 1/2 pts, maybe should have held off a bit.... Anyway, Pats by what?... 5?

     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2016 - 8:10 AM ET #3

    Broncos

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    Broncos

     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2016 - 8:54 AM ET #4

    Hey guys.great weekend I hope you all had the winning teams.I did.I also gave you all 3 selections I had and a push.feel free to follow.I only want to help.or I wouldn't waste my time typing.speak to you all later in the week.gentleman have a nice week speak to you all this weekend

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    Hey guys.great weekend I hope you all had the winning teams.I did.I also gave you all 3 selections I had and a push.feel free to follow.I only want to help.or I wouldn't waste my time typing.speak to you all later in the week.gentleman have a nice week speak to you all this weekend

     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2016 - 10:15 AM ET #5

    take -3 now ,will be up on weekend

    NE -3 for me

    GL all

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    take -3 now ,will be up on weekend

    NE -3 for me

    GL all

     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2016 - 11:10 AM ET #6

    Broncos

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    Broncos

     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2016 - 11:21 AM ET #7

    the Bronco's or the Steeler"s dont have a chance against New England! Im no real  fan of the Pat's but there is no chance the Bronco's can keep this a game! Pats by atleast a TD maybe 2 or 3

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    the Bronco's or the Steeler"s dont have a chance against New England! Im no real  fan of the Pat's but there is no chance the Bronco's can keep this a game! Pats by atleast a TD maybe 2 or 3

     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2016 - 12:16 PM ET #8

    superbowl 2004 will come back

    NE vs CAR  again 

    GL all

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    superbowl 2004 will come back

    NE vs CAR  again 

    GL all

     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2016 - 1:08 PM ET #9

    I agree pats should win here unless the manning brothers just own, Brady and the pats 

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    I agree pats should win here unless the manning brothers just own, Brady and the pats 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2016 - 1:31 PM ET #10

    I wouldnt think this is an automatic win for the Brady bunch, they lost in OT there earlier this season and manning didnt even play. Im a firm believer in the 4th quarter mile high exhaustion due to lack of oxygen. You can see the opposing teams gassed and missing tackles. I know that sounds crazy but ive seen it happen many times.
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    I wouldnt think this is an automatic win for the Brady bunch, they lost in OT there earlier this season and manning didnt even play. Im a firm believer in the 4th quarter mile high exhaustion due to lack of oxygen. You can see the opposing teams gassed and missing tackles. I know that sounds crazy but ive seen it happen many times.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2016 - 2:31 PM ET #11

    broncos were lucky to win yesterday,defense forced and recovered fumble in 4th quarter,maning once again was off his game,been that way since the end of last year,attribute some of manings problems to kubiacks play calling,maning wants to pass out of the shotgun,kubiack wants to run,problem is our offensive line was set up for pass protection.not the run,elway should have kept fox who fits maning better,broncos will not win trying to run,if they use the hurry up shotgun they might have a chance,but I don,t see that happening with the conservetive kubiack calling plays,the last game between them broncos had to go to overtime to win with the pats missing key players,well those key players are back for this game so its no brainer,pats win

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    broncos were lucky to win yesterday,defense forced and recovered fumble in 4th quarter,maning once again was off his game,been that way since the end of last year,attribute some of manings problems to kubiacks play calling,maning wants to pass out of the shotgun,kubiack wants to run,problem is our offensive line was set up for pass protection.not the run,elway should have kept fox who fits maning better,broncos will not win trying to run,if they use the hurry up shotgun they might have a chance,but I don,t see that happening with the conservetive kubiack calling plays,the last game between them broncos had to go to overtime to win with the pats missing key players,well those key players are back for this game so its no brainer,pats win

     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2016 - 2:32 PM ET #12

    Ok, The last 4 times these two played in Denver .

    11/29/15 Den.30 to 24 ,Den. + 2 1/2   W/C

    01/19/14  "      26 to 16 ,  "    - 5           W/C

    12/18/11  "      23 to 41 ,  "    - 7            L / L

    10/11/09  "       20 to 17   "     + 3         W/C                                                        they also played their two more times, and Pats are total 1and 5 at Denver.

    I'm really  leaning Broncos + points ,now Manning is warmed up.

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    Ok, The last 4 times these two played in Denver .

    11/29/15 Den.30 to 24 ,Den. + 2 1/2   W/C

    01/19/14  "      26 to 16 ,  "    - 5           W/C

    12/18/11  "      23 to 41 ,  "    - 7            L / L

    10/11/09  "       20 to 17   "     + 3         W/C                                                        they also played their two more times, and Pats are total 1and 5 at Denver.

    I'm really  leaning Broncos + points ,now Manning is warmed up.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2016 - 3:26 PM ET #13

    The end of the legacy the great PEYTON MANNING will come to an end dis Sunday. 

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    The end of the legacy the great PEYTON MANNING will come to an end dis Sunday. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2016 - 5:25 PM ET #14

    ...Patriots break the 1-5 ATS slump at Denver,   easy money win

     

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    ...Patriots break the 1-5 ATS slump at Denver,   easy money win

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2016 - 5:49 PM ET #15

    Denver could just not  hold onto the ball and manning did not ook good so ya my $ is on pats but one player I'm cheering for is Ronnie hillman out from.la habra high school go Ronnie hold onto that ball 

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    Denver could just not  hold onto the ball and manning did not ook good so ya my $ is on pats but one player I'm cheering for is Ronnie hillman out from.la habra high school go Ronnie hold onto that ball 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2016 - 7:54 PM ET #16

    NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS REIGN COMES TO AN END. BRONCOS  ROLL OVER PATROITS 33-22. an_happydude

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    NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS REIGN COMES TO AN END. BRONCOS  ROLL OVER PATROITS 33-22. an_happydude

     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2016 - 10:56 PM ET #17

    This is gona be a super conservative game by Denver, as Manning is too brittle to take any chances with. I expect to see a real effort on the Bronco's part to keep the ball on the ground as much as possible. I've noticed that Peyton has been reluctant to "poke the bear" with a stick by going downfield and testing the corners. He appears to be tenative and tight, with more hesitation lately than he's shown in the past. In other words, he's no gunslinger and he's gonna stay conservative and hope that his defense keeps him close enough to win with a FG at the end.Denver's Offensive coordinators don't want to put Manning in a position to lose by trying to get too cute with the play calling at this point. I believe that Denver has a good chance to win this game if ;A) if they keep Brady off the field and win the battle up front as well as keep Manning upright in pocket protection. B) Take what the defense gives them and burn as much clock as possible. C) Manning's receivers can "CATCH THE DAM BALL" and D) Don't turn the ball over, especially in the Red Zone. At this time, I'm leaning toward the Denver ML at +150, but not ready to pull the trigger just yet. If I can get a solid 4 or 5, I'll take the points.

     

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    This is gona be a super conservative game by Denver, as Manning is too brittle to take any chances with. I expect to see a real effort on the Bronco's part to keep the ball on the ground as much as possible. I've noticed that Peyton has been reluctant to "poke the bear" with a stick by going downfield and testing the corners. He appears to be tenative and tight, with more hesitation lately than he's shown in the past. In other words, he's no gunslinger and he's gonna stay conservative and hope that his defense keeps him close enough to win with a FG at the end.Denver's Offensive coordinators don't want to put Manning in a position to lose by trying to get too cute with the play calling at this point. I believe that Denver has a good chance to win this game if ;A) if they keep Brady off the field and win the battle up front as well as keep Manning upright in pocket protection. B) Take what the defense gives them and burn as much clock as possible. C) Manning's receivers can "CATCH THE DAM BALL" and D) Don't turn the ball over, especially in the Red Zone. At this time, I'm leaning toward the Denver ML at +150, but not ready to pull the trigger just yet. If I can get a solid 4 or 5, I'll take the points.

     

     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2016 - 9:25 AM ET #18

    To be sure, Peyton looked pretty weak overall.  The wind ate his weak arm strength alive.  Having said that, everyone who watched the game saw a RIDICULOUS number of dropped passes that would have been game changers if only 6-7 out of 10 had been caught.  It's so simple to dismiss Manning's performance and quickly forget all those bread basket drops or relatively catchable balls in the receivers zone because the rest of the body of work was so hard to watch from a 1st ballot HOF'er.  Anytime a receiver drops a sure 1st down, ANYTIME, it's a game changer from a number of potential perspectives. And his boyz dropped an Alabama butt load of them ( don't know how many that saying refers to, but sounds like a bunch doesn't it? lol) Can you imagine the continued drives, clock time with opposing D still on the field, lost points (3's or 7's--take your pick) etc, etc....  Completely different game ensues, without question.  But, the NFL is ALL ABOUT woulda, coulda, shoulda.   Having spewed all that, my keys to the game for any possible DEN win go as follows.  1) as stated above by az49erdog--CATCH the fkn football  2) the wind factor needs to be below 15mph for Manning to spin it--if above that, Den loses, barring some 4-5 turnover NE debacle  3) continue to dink & dunk to eat the clock, & hope you can establish some sort of ground game--a shoot out is an automatic Den loss if Peyton is under center  4) IF Peyton looks really shaky again, get the hook out--I know, I know....don't care! This is the season/super bowl on the line with the good of the many outweighing the good of the few, or 1.  I believe Peyton would say the same, as he is the class act of the NFL, period.  So I will wait for game day to get a real time wind report (sounds crazy, right?)  Early lean is Den, at the moment....just feels like one last hurrah for Peyton is coming.  Not confident in my gut feel though, been reeled in & boated many times before...  LoL  Did have all the home teams last weekend, went 3-1 ats, helped even up the beating I suffered on wild card weekend  

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    To be sure, Peyton looked pretty weak overall.  The wind ate his weak arm strength alive.  Having said that, everyone who watched the game saw a RIDICULOUS number of dropped passes that would have been game changers if only 6-7 out of 10 had been caught.  It's so simple to dismiss Manning's performance and quickly forget all those bread basket drops or relatively catchable balls in the receivers zone because the rest of the body of work was so hard to watch from a 1st ballot HOF'er.  Anytime a receiver drops a sure 1st down, ANYTIME, it's a game changer from a number of potential perspectives. And his boyz dropped an Alabama butt load of them ( don't know how many that saying refers to, but sounds like a bunch doesn't it? lol) Can you imagine the continued drives, clock time with opposing D still on the field, lost points (3's or 7's--take your pick) etc, etc....  Completely different game ensues, without question.  But, the NFL is ALL ABOUT woulda, coulda, shoulda.   Having spewed all that, my keys to the game for any possible DEN win go as follows.  1) as stated above by az49erdog--CATCH the fkn football  2) the wind factor needs to be below 15mph for Manning to spin it--if above that, Den loses, barring some 4-5 turnover NE debacle  3) continue to dink & dunk to eat the clock, & hope you can establish some sort of ground game--a shoot out is an automatic Den loss if Peyton is under center  4) IF Peyton looks really shaky again, get the hook out--I know, I know....don't care! This is the season/super bowl on the line with the good of the many outweighing the good of the few, or 1.  I believe Peyton would say the same, as he is the class act of the NFL, period.  So I will wait for game day to get a real time wind report (sounds crazy, right?)  Early lean is Den, at the moment....just feels like one last hurrah for Peyton is coming.  Not confident in my gut feel though, been reeled in & boated many times before...  LoL  Did have all the home teams last weekend, went 3-1 ats, helped even up the beating I suffered on wild card weekend  

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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2016 - 1:35 PM ET #19

    At first glance, it's easy to immediately jump on the Pats after watching Peyton struggle on Sunday and the Pats easy handled KC.  Peyton's receivers really let him down on very catchable balls that would have kept several drives alive.  This is going to be quite the chess match between 2 first ballot HOF'ers.  That being said, I believe the Brady Bunch are on a mission after the deflated gate BS they had to deal with last year.  I'll take the healthier QB and his now healthy receiving core at -3.

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    At first glance, it's easy to immediately jump on the Pats after watching Peyton struggle on Sunday and the Pats easy handled KC.  Peyton's receivers really let him down on very catchable balls that would have kept several drives alive.  This is going to be quite the chess match between 2 first ballot HOF'ers.  That being said, I believe the Brady Bunch are on a mission after the deflated gate BS they had to deal with last year.  I'll take the healthier QB and his now healthy receiving core at -3.

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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2016 - 1:49 PM ET #20

    who has the most complete team overall and the better coaching,easy answer the pats

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    who has the most complete team overall and the better coaching,easy answer the pats

     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2016 - 2:09 PM ET #21

    This might come off as being a little bitter, but truly is based on what I have seen. From the second half of the season and into the playoffs I have never seen such blatant rigging of games (the NFL has truly taken it to a new level). This includes the game between these same 2 teams, in the same place, in primetime. The question I ask myself, Is the NFL's agenda to have Manning ride out into the sunset as a winner? I concluded, ABSOLUTELY!!!!

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    This might come off as being a little bitter, but truly is based on what I have seen. From the second half of the season and into the playoffs I have never seen such blatant rigging of games (the NFL has truly taken it to a new level). This includes the game between these same 2 teams, in the same place, in primetime. The question I ask myself, Is the NFL's agenda to have Manning ride out into the sunset as a winner? I concluded, ABSOLUTELY!!!!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2016 - 4:27 PM ET #22

    I must add my Broncos have Mr Brady's number at Mile High..

    Turd Boy12 is 2-6 at Mile High in his career. 0-2 in the playoffs and his 2 wins came against the "formidable" starting QBs Danny Kannell and Tim Tebow.

    I'll be wishing all Chowda Heads at Mile High Sunday a welcoming Colorado "Hello". ;-)

    Broncos 23

    Pats 20

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    I must add my Broncos have Mr Brady's number at Mile High..

    Turd Boy12 is 2-6 at Mile High in his career. 0-2 in the playoffs and his 2 wins came against the "formidable" starting QBs Danny Kannell and Tim Tebow.

    I'll be wishing all Chowda Heads at Mile High Sunday a welcoming Colorado "Hello". ;-)

    Broncos 23

    Pats 20

    win

     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2016 - 4:52 PM ET #23

    The Pats are playing like they have something to prove all season after the deflate-gate scandal last season. With Peyton playing like he is one sack away from a career ending injury, I like the Brady Bunch to roll here. 

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    The Pats are playing like they have something to prove all season after the deflate-gate scandal last season. With Peyton playing like he is one sack away from a career ending injury, I like the Brady Bunch to roll here. 

    NE -3 LARGE

     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2016 - 9:29 PM ET #24

    allanmorin1 a day ago

    NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS REIGN COMES TO AN END. BRONCOS  ROLL OVER PATROITS 33-22. 

     

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    Bro, denver couldnt score 33 against the Pats D if they played 8 quarters with Manning at the helm. The one thing Manning did well was check down to run plays after reading the D. His ability to make tough throws into tight windows is over. He is a game manager, maybe the best in the business now, because he can't beat you with his arm anymore. Brady with Edelman, even more so than Gronk, is a different QB. KC couldnt get any pressure saturday bacause Brady is a surgeon, and every bit as good as Manning at reading a D. Brady has thrown 3 TD's at Mile High this year to Mannings 1 TD at home. I just dont see how they keep the Pats from scoring 27+ and I dont see the Broncos getting more than 17. Remember the Pats put up 24 in week 10 with no Edelman, Amendola, and Gronk being injured late. And the Pats D is legit, and every bit as good as Denvers

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    allanmorin1 a day ago

    NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS REIGN COMES TO AN END. BRONCOS  ROLL OVER PATROITS 33-22. 

     

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    Bro, denver couldnt score 33 against the Pats D if they played 8 quarters with Manning at the helm. The one thing Manning did well was check down to run plays after reading the D. His ability to make tough throws into tight windows is over. He is a game manager, maybe the best in the business now, because he can't beat you with his arm anymore. Brady with Edelman, even more so than Gronk, is a different QB. KC couldnt get any pressure saturday bacause Brady is a surgeon, and every bit as good as Manning at reading a D. Brady has thrown 3 TD's at Mile High this year to Mannings 1 TD at home. I just dont see how they keep the Pats from scoring 27+ and I dont see the Broncos getting more than 17. Remember the Pats put up 24 in week 10 with no Edelman, Amendola, and Gronk being injured late. And the Pats D is legit, and every bit as good as Denvers

     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 19, 2016 - 9:30 PM ET #25

    Broncos are 1-5-1 ATS in their last 7 playoff games.go Pats!!!!Peace_5

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    Broncos are 1-5-1 ATS in their last 7 playoff games.go Pats!!!!Peace_5

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