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    Miami at New York (12/12/2010)

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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2010 - 3:48 AM ET #1

    Away:  Miami [7-5 ATS]
    Home:  N.Y. Jets [7-5 ATS]

    Game Time: 4:15 PM
    Stadium: New Meadowlands Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    09/26/10 - NYJ 31 vs. MIA 23

    Team Leaders:

    Miami:
    Passing: Chad Henne (2621)
    Rushing: Ronnie Brown (589)
    Receiving: Brandon Marshall (693)

    N.Y. Jets:
    Passing: Mark Sanchez (2623)
    Rushing: LaDainian Tomlinson (780)
    Receiving: Braylon Edwards (657)

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    Away:  Miami [7-5 ATS]
    Home:  N.Y. Jets [7-5 ATS]

    Game Time: 4:15 PM
    Stadium: New Meadowlands Stadium

    Recent Meetings:
    09/26/10 - NYJ 31 vs. MIA 23

    Team Leaders:

    Miami:
    Passing: Chad Henne (2621)
    Rushing: Ronnie Brown (589)
    Receiving: Brandon Marshall (693)

    N.Y. Jets:
    Passing: Mark Sanchez (2623)
    Rushing: LaDainian Tomlinson (780)
    Receiving: Braylon Edwards (657)

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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2010 - 10:29 AM ET #2

    Man.....here comes a but whoppin!!!  The Jets will let out all the frustration on the Fins. 
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    Man.....here comes a but whoppin!!!  The Jets will let out all the frustration on the Fins. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2010 - 9:30 AM ET #3

    I'll take the points, always a tight game between these two.

    MIA has covered and won three of the last four against the Jets.

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    I'll take the points, always a tight game between these two.

    MIA has covered and won three of the last four against the Jets.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2010 - 10:27 AM ET #4

    The Jets will be out to avenge their horrible Monday night defeat against the Patriots. They'll have more time to coach up backup safety Smith but not enough to return the DEF to previous greatness. Interesting fact: The Jets under Ryan are terrible with extra time to prepare. The Patriots could run on the Jets because of great game planning and the threat of an explosive passing attack - Miami doesn't have this with Henne at QB and Revis and Cromartie covering Marshall and Bess. That means Miami has to rely on the running game which really struggled against Cleveland. 
    Sanchez has proven to bounce back off of bad games and likely will again. The Jets will be more conservative focused on ball security and clock management running the ball even if Miami has a decent running defense (just look how they slowed down Hillis). All this tells me it'll be an Under game. The Jets simply has a better team, they play at home in cold weather against a warm weather team. 

    Jets win by a TD but stay Under.

    What do you think?
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    The Jets will be out to avenge their horrible Monday night defeat against the Patriots. They'll have more time to coach up backup safety Smith but not enough to return the DEF to previous greatness. Interesting fact: The Jets under Ryan are terrible with extra time to prepare. The Patriots could run on the Jets because of great game planning and the threat of an explosive passing attack - Miami doesn't have this with Henne at QB and Revis and Cromartie covering Marshall and Bess. That means Miami has to rely on the running game which really struggled against Cleveland. 
    Sanchez has proven to bounce back off of bad games and likely will again. The Jets will be more conservative focused on ball security and clock management running the ball even if Miami has a decent running defense (just look how they slowed down Hillis). All this tells me it'll be an Under game. The Jets simply has a better team, they play at home in cold weather against a warm weather team. 

    Jets win by a TD but stay Under.

    What do you think?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2010 - 11:39 AM ET #5

    Had the under last year at the jets, mia only had 52 rushing and 112 passing, ginn returned 2 kicks and taylor a fumble return all in the 3rd quarter when teams combined for 37 points sinking my bet

    would still lean under anf jets thi time around

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    Had the under last year at the jets, mia only had 52 rushing and 112 passing, ginn returned 2 kicks and taylor a fumble return all in the 3rd quarter when teams combined for 37 points sinking my bet

    would still lean under anf jets thi time around

     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2010 - 12:30 PM ET #6

    after a loss like that.... the wheels can start coming off

    I'm staying away from this team until I see which direction they are heading...

    the offense was awful against the bengals as well....

    typical Miami coming in when we are down to pull out an ATS win...

    i really wouldn't be suprised if the Jets lost this game...

     

     

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    after a loss like that.... the wheels can start coming off

    I'm staying away from this team until I see which direction they are heading...

    the offense was awful against the bengals as well....

    typical Miami coming in when we are down to pull out an ATS win...

    i really wouldn't be suprised if the Jets lost this game...

     

     

     
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    Sorry Big Daddy - but the Jets at home, after that bad of a beat-down - I just see the Dolphins "floundering" in this game. Chad Henne still looks inexperienced and scared out there to me, and the Ronnie Brown "Wildcat" fools no one anymore - simply because he never opts for the throw. 

    It's going to be 20-3, or 20-7, or 20-10 - take your pick, but Miami gets killed in all of them.

    Jets -5.5 & under 40 

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    Sorry Big Daddy - but the Jets at home, after that bad of a beat-down - I just see the Dolphins "floundering" in this game. Chad Henne still looks inexperienced and scared out there to me, and the Ronnie Brown "Wildcat" fools no one anymore - simply because he never opts for the throw. 

    It's going to be 20-3, or 20-7, or 20-10 - take your pick, but Miami gets killed in all of them.

    Jets -5.5 & under 40 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2010 - 3:26 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:

    after a loss like that.... the wheels can start coming off

    I'm staying away from this team until I see which direction they are heading...

    the offense was awful against the bengals as well....

    typical Miami coming in when we are down to pull out an ATS win...

    i really wouldn't be suprised if the Jets lost this game...

     

     

    Just about how I'm looking at it.

    MIAMI   + 5.5  (LARGE!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreakaBookie:

    after a loss like that.... the wheels can start coming off

    I'm staying away from this team until I see which direction they are heading...

    the offense was awful against the bengals as well....

    typical Miami coming in when we are down to pull out an ATS win...

    i really wouldn't be suprised if the Jets lost this game...

     

     

    Just about how I'm looking at it.

    MIAMI   + 5.5  (LARGE!)

     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2010 - 3:33 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by Bechmann:

    The Jets will be out to avenge their horrible Monday night defeat against the Patriots. They'll have more time to coach up backup safety Smith but not enough to return the DEF to previous greatness. Interesting fact: The Jets under Ryan are terrible with extra time to prepare. The Patriots could run on the Jets because of great game planning and the threat of an explosive passing attack - Miami doesn't have this with Henne at QB and Revis and Cromartie covering Marshall and Bess. That means Miami has to rely on the running game which really struggled against Cleveland. 
    Sanchez has proven to bounce back off of bad games and likely will again. The Jets will be more conservative focused on ball security and clock management running the ball even if Miami has a decent running defense (just look how they slowed down Hillis). All this tells me it'll be an Under game. The Jets simply has a better team, they play at home in cold weather against a warm weather team. 

    Jets win by a TD but stay Under.

    What do you think?

      Jets 20-13

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bechmann:

    The Jets will be out to avenge their horrible Monday night defeat against the Patriots. They'll have more time to coach up backup safety Smith but not enough to return the DEF to previous greatness. Interesting fact: The Jets under Ryan are terrible with extra time to prepare. The Patriots could run on the Jets because of great game planning and the threat of an explosive passing attack - Miami doesn't have this with Henne at QB and Revis and Cromartie covering Marshall and Bess. That means Miami has to rely on the running game which really struggled against Cleveland. 
    Sanchez has proven to bounce back off of bad games and likely will again. The Jets will be more conservative focused on ball security and clock management running the ball even if Miami has a decent running defense (just look how they slowed down Hillis). All this tells me it'll be an Under game. The Jets simply has a better team, they play at home in cold weather against a warm weather team. 

    Jets win by a TD but stay Under.

    What do you think?

      Jets 20-13

     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2010 - 4:58 PM ET #10

    5.5 death line. Mia for the large!

     

  • Monday Night Misery: Teams coming off a loss of 17+ points on MNF are 16-34 ATS the following week since 1999.
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    5.5 death line. Mia for the large!

     

  • Monday Night Misery: Teams coming off a loss of 17+ points on MNF are 16-34 ATS the following week since 1999.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrDogs:

    5.5 death line. Mia for the large!

     

  • Monday Night Misery: Teams coming off a loss of 17+ points on MNF are 16-34 ATS the following week since 1999.



  • take a look at this article
    https://spaces.covers.com/blog/Spreadsheet/NFL/12082010-Jets-at-least-have-one-ally----history.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrDogs:

    5.5 death line. Mia for the large!

     

  • Monday Night Misery: Teams coming off a loss of 17+ points on MNF are 16-34 ATS the following week since 1999.



  • take a look at this article
    https://spaces.covers.com/blog/Spreadsheet/NFL/12082010-Jets-at-least-have-one-ally----history.html
     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2010 - 1:52 PM ET #12

    just a few points.

    -Miami in in NY right now practicing in the elments (its friggen cold right now) it always works traveling early

    -they are going to the braodway show "lombardi" Friday night.... (little emotional boost)

    -Dolphins are a great Road team, but suck at home....

    I think the Jets squeak by this week....

    I recommend taking the 6 points.

    GL TO ALL!

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    just a few points.

    -Miami in in NY right now practicing in the elments (its friggen cold right now) it always works traveling early

    -they are going to the braodway show "lombardi" Friday night.... (little emotional boost)

    -Dolphins are a great Road team, but suck at home....

    I think the Jets squeak by this week....

    I recommend taking the 6 points.

    GL TO ALL!

     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2010 - 6:12 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuadYeah:

    Sorry Big Daddy - but the Jets at home, after that bad of a beat-down - I just see the Dolphins "floundering" in this game. Chad Henne still looks inexperienced and scared out there to me, and the Ronnie Brown "Wildcat" fools no one anymore - simply because he never opts for the throw. 

    It's going to be 20-3, or 20-7, or 20-10 - take your pick, but Miami gets killed in all of them.

    Jets -5.5 & under 40 

    No worries I feel the same way 

    Miami could be in deep dodo in this one. I feel the Jets will test our banged up o-line often and early by sending the house to blitz Henne. To top it off they just got a beat down from the Pats....not a good thing for my banged up Dolphins. The Jets may have burried the football from the Pats game but I think they left enough room next to the ball to bury my Dolphins.

    Last season when my Dolphins went 2-0 against the Jets it was a different story. Ginn broke 2 returns for Td's, a lot of squaking went on between the 2 teams, etc. This season I was shocked to see some praises from the Jets to the Dolphins a much more civil and respectful type of conversation.

    Last season Rex called the wildcat "a bunch of clown plays" and even though the Jets loss the Jets won. He stated that the Dolphins didn't beat them the Jets just beat themselves...basically refused to give any credit to the Dolphins for beating them. This season I don't think any of that talk is going around.

    If there is any chance that the Dolphins can pull out a win in this one they will need to...

    1) Wake up their running game to open up the passing game. Not the wildcat just simple ground and pound running.

    2) Get to Sanchez often and early. Make Sanchez not forget the four int's he just threw against the Pats.

    3) Can't get to Sanchez? well my Dolphins better stop the run.

    4) keep Santonio Holmes under wraps the entire game. Give him one opening and he can take it to the house!

    5) Everything is on the line so open up the offensive playbook. My Dolphins need to realize that we cannot be conservative anymore on offense or we will be just going through the motions and just waiting until the 2011 draft.

    6) Red zone opportunities need to be TD's and not field goals.

    7) special teams need to stop giving up great field position for the other team.

    8) I'm sure there are a lot more to cover...but the most important thing they need to do is....Win baby...just win!

    Aloha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheQuadYeah:

    Sorry Big Daddy - but the Jets at home, after that bad of a beat-down - I just see the Dolphins "floundering" in this game. Chad Henne still looks inexperienced and scared out there to me, and the Ronnie Brown "Wildcat" fools no one anymore - simply because he never opts for the throw. 

    It's going to be 20-3, or 20-7, or 20-10 - take your pick, but Miami gets killed in all of them.

    Jets -5.5 & under 40 

    No worries I feel the same way 

    Miami could be in deep dodo in this one. I feel the Jets will test our banged up o-line often and early by sending the house to blitz Henne. To top it off they just got a beat down from the Pats....not a good thing for my banged up Dolphins. The Jets may have burried the football from the Pats game but I think they left enough room next to the ball to bury my Dolphins.

    Last season when my Dolphins went 2-0 against the Jets it was a different story. Ginn broke 2 returns for Td's, a lot of squaking went on between the 2 teams, etc. This season I was shocked to see some praises from the Jets to the Dolphins a much more civil and respectful type of conversation.

    Last season Rex called the wildcat "a bunch of clown plays" and even though the Jets loss the Jets won. He stated that the Dolphins didn't beat them the Jets just beat themselves...basically refused to give any credit to the Dolphins for beating them. This season I don't think any of that talk is going around.

    If there is any chance that the Dolphins can pull out a win in this one they will need to...

    1) Wake up their running game to open up the passing game. Not the wildcat just simple ground and pound running.

    2) Get to Sanchez often and early. Make Sanchez not forget the four int's he just threw against the Pats.

    3) Can't get to Sanchez? well my Dolphins better stop the run.

    4) keep Santonio Holmes under wraps the entire game. Give him one opening and he can take it to the house!

    5) Everything is on the line so open up the offensive playbook. My Dolphins need to realize that we cannot be conservative anymore on offense or we will be just going through the motions and just waiting until the 2011 draft.

    6) Red zone opportunities need to be TD's and not field goals.

    7) special teams need to stop giving up great field position for the other team.

    8) I'm sure there are a lot more to cover...but the most important thing they need to do is....Win baby...just win!

    Aloha!

     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2010 - 11:15 PM ET #14

    Whats up BigDaddy.

    I think we have a very legitimate shot at winning this game. The first game this season was a revenge game. There was no doubt in my mind the Jets would win. We straight up embarressed them last season. Thats over with.

    Jets are down after a demoralizing lose to NE and the Dolphins would love nothing more than to kick them while they're down. And some dude above pointed out the trend of teams coming off Monday night beat downs.

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    Whats up BigDaddy.

    I think we have a very legitimate shot at winning this game. The first game this season was a revenge game. There was no doubt in my mind the Jets would win. We straight up embarressed them last season. Thats over with.

    Jets are down after a demoralizing lose to NE and the Dolphins would love nothing more than to kick them while they're down. And some dude above pointed out the trend of teams coming off Monday night beat downs.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2010 - 10:02 AM ET #15

    weather could be a factor in this one; check again before game time. could be an under play.

    Sunday: Rain. High near 45. East wind 7 to 9 mph becoming south. Chance of precipitation is 90%. New rainfall amounts between three quarters and one inch possible.

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    weather could be a factor in this one; check again before game time. could be an under play.

    Sunday: Rain. High near 45. East wind 7 to 9 mph becoming south. Chance of precipitation is 90%. New rainfall amounts between three quarters and one inch possible.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2010 - 10:58 AM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by Fazool:

    weather could be a factor in this one; check again before game time. could be an under play.

    Sunday: Rain. High near 45. East wind 7 to 9 mph becoming south. Chance of precipitation is 90%. New rainfall amounts between three quarters and one inch possible.

    Even better for Miami

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fazool:

    weather could be a factor in this one; check again before game time. could be an under play.

    Sunday: Rain. High near 45. East wind 7 to 9 mph becoming south. Chance of precipitation is 90%. New rainfall amounts between three quarters and one inch possible.

    Even better for Miami

     
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    Posted: Dec. 10, 2010 - 11:10 AM ET #17

    That dude is me son!!!!! Trust me im doctor! Good luck this week JDubya!

     

     

    Quote Originally Posted by JerryWrasse:

    Whats up BigDaddy.

    I think we have a very legitimate shot at winning this game. The first game this season was a revenge game. There was no doubt in my mind the Jets would win. We straight up embarressed them last season. Thats over with.

    Jets are down after a demoralizing lose to NE and the Dolphins would love nothing more than to kick them while they're down. And some dude above pointed out the trend of teams coming off Monday night beat downs.

    If you’re not large, you’re small - the DOC
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    That dude is me son!!!!! Trust me im doctor! Good luck this week JDubya!

     

     

    Quote Originally Posted by JerryWrasse:

    Whats up BigDaddy.

    I think we have a very legitimate shot at winning this game. The first game this season was a revenge game. There was no doubt in my mind the Jets would win. We straight up embarressed them last season. Thats over with.

    Jets are down after a demoralizing lose to NE and the Dolphins would love nothing more than to kick them while they're down. And some dude above pointed out the trend of teams coming off Monday night beat downs.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2010 - 1:37 PM ET #18

    NYJ -5.5 (1unit) - Sanchez bounceback
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    NYJ -5.5 (1unit) - Sanchez bounceback
     
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2010 - 1:56 PM ET #19

    jets bounce back from the horror on mnf, jets 27-17. imo
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    jets bounce back from the horror on mnf, jets 27-17. imo
     
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2010 - 7:03 PM ET #20

    Jets still grounded.  Sanchez overrated.  Dolphins cover
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    Jets still grounded.  Sanchez overrated.  Dolphins cover
     
    808pickyboy
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    Posted: Dec. 11, 2010 - 8:43 PM ET #21

    The Jets lost by a land slide. Yes they are frustrated just as much as I am for being stupid and betting on them against the Pats. Jets cannot and has not dominated a playoff contender of a team and has squeeked by the bottom feeders. It is what it is. They are all hype.

    Miami is 5-1 on the road and those were formidable opponents. I wouldn't be surprised if they win this one outright. As a matter of fact, I am very confident that Dolphins win SU. Jets just do not have an offense which was showed against a last ranking "D" in the Patriots. I think that "Fins" will be using a lot of the same plays as the Patriots. Short passes for big gains.

    Dolphins 24

    Jets 17

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    The Jets lost by a land slide. Yes they are frustrated just as much as I am for being stupid and betting on them against the Pats. Jets cannot and has not dominated a playoff contender of a team and has squeeked by the bottom feeders. It is what it is. They are all hype.

    Miami is 5-1 on the road and those were formidable opponents. I wouldn't be surprised if they win this one outright. As a matter of fact, I am very confident that Dolphins win SU. Jets just do not have an offense which was showed against a last ranking "D" in the Patriots. I think that "Fins" will be using a lot of the same plays as the Patriots. Short passes for big gains.

    Dolphins 24

    Jets 17

     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2010 - 7:34 AM ET #22

    Saw the weather reports as well as the last game they played this season and my take is that it will not be a shootout. Low scoring game is a definite.    ADVANTAGE MIAMI

    On the cold field in wet and freezing weather, a running game is a must. In the last meeting, Miami "D" held LT of the jets bottled up. As much as the games Henne missed this year, he is only 2 yards shy of Martinez. 2 yards. 

    Miami can definitely exploit the "WILDCAT" form and with Ricky Williams (who has been killing it lately) along with D. Bess and a great supporting staff, will once again have more time in possession. In cold weather, Miami has the players to take it up the field. Jets will only truly have 1 guy to go to (LT) because the passing game will be limited by the 20 MPH winds. Martinez doesn't have one to start with.

    Miami 24

    Jets  17
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    Saw the weather reports as well as the last game they played this season and my take is that it will not be a shootout. Low scoring game is a definite.    ADVANTAGE MIAMI

    On the cold field in wet and freezing weather, a running game is a must. In the last meeting, Miami "D" held LT of the jets bottled up. As much as the games Henne missed this year, he is only 2 yards shy of Martinez. 2 yards. 

    Miami can definitely exploit the "WILDCAT" form and with Ricky Williams (who has been killing it lately) along with D. Bess and a great supporting staff, will once again have more time in possession. In cold weather, Miami has the players to take it up the field. Jets will only truly have 1 guy to go to (LT) because the passing game will be limited by the 20 MPH winds. Martinez doesn't have one to start with.

    Miami 24

    Jets  17
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2010 - 8:30 AM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by Irisheyez:

    Man.....here comes a but whoppin!!!  The Jets will let out all the frustration on the Fins. 

    YOU REALLY THINK THE JETS ARE THAT GOOD - THEY ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO BLOW OUT ANYONE - DOLPHINS KEEP IT CLOSE - THE ONLY THING THAT SCARES ME IS WILL THE DOLPHINS SHOW UP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irisheyez:

    Man.....here comes a but whoppin!!!  The Jets will let out all the frustration on the Fins. 

    YOU REALLY THINK THE JETS ARE THAT GOOD - THEY ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO BLOW OUT ANYONE - DOLPHINS KEEP IT CLOSE - THE ONLY THING THAT SCARES ME IS WILL THE DOLPHINS SHOW UP?

     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2010 - 8:48 AM ET #24

    Jets are Mad as hell from being embarassed by NE on monday nite . They come out with a vengence !!!   They know they are a playoff team . Rex Ryan will have they guys on fired up and on Nitro !

    Jets -5  ( 3 unit play )

     

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    Jets are Mad as hell from being embarassed by NE on monday nite . They come out with a vengence !!!   They know they are a playoff team . Rex Ryan will have they guys on fired up and on Nitro !

    Jets -5  ( 3 unit play )

     

     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 12, 2010 - 10:59 AM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by Fazool:

    weather could be a factor in this one; check again before game time. could be an under play.

    Sunday: Rain. High near 45. East wind 7 to 9 mph becoming south. Chance of precipitation is 90%. New rainfall amounts between three quarters and one inch possible.

     

    Im here in NEW YORK....and then wind is blowing a lot more then 7 to 9 miles an hour.  I would say the wind is somewhere between 20 and 40 obviously not sustained but very very windy non the less!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fazool:

    weather could be a factor in this one; check again before game time. could be an under play.

    Sunday: Rain. High near 45. East wind 7 to 9 mph becoming south. Chance of precipitation is 90%. New rainfall amounts between three quarters and one inch possible.

     

    Im here in NEW YORK....and then wind is blowing a lot more then 7 to 9 miles an hour.  I would say the wind is somewhere between 20 and 40 obviously not sustained but very very windy non the less!

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